High Society: Episode 5
by gummimochi
Love is in the air this hour as two romances come to bloom between our pairings. While the dynamics between the rich and poor come into play in each of their relationships, the result isn’t always what you’d expect. The contrast between these two couples is like night and day where one reminds you of the strange reality that is this world and the other is what dreams are made of.
And who can blame her for wanting to play with Loveshik puppy’s ears, after all. They’re just so floppy and adorable.
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EPISODE 5 RECAP
A kiss on the rooftop, followed by another. After Yoon-ha vows not to withhold secrets about herself anymore, Joon-ki takes her hand and draws her close. What he values is sincerity in a relationship, and a girlfriend whom he can reach. Relationship still on, then.
Joon-ki isn’t the type to dole out cheesy lines when they make dinner plans at his place for tonight. Having overheard the exchange, Joon-ki’s co-worker, Deputy Sung, smugly asks if he’s dating the part-timer, only to have his own weakness pointed out in return.
Chang-soo spends five seconds greeting Deputy Sung before approaching Ji-yi. Today’s brief tiff is about the produce, which Chang-soo wins with a swoon-worthy line. He smiles when she notes his absence, then asks if she missed him while he was gone. “Yes,” she admits. Their flirty banter is observed by Deputy Sung and Ji-yi’s boss.
Contrast that with Madam Min, who after her morning stiff drink heads straight to Lady Kim to return the mourning gifts sent to her. Enacting her new mantra of only showing humane treatment to those who deserve it, she orders Butler Hong to throw the dishes off the table.
Sending Mama Lee away so they can speak alone, Lady Kim keeps up a smile while pushing Madam Min’s buttons. Provoking an unbalanced mother about her son’s “death” is the wrong thing to do, since it earns her a hard slap across the face and getting her hair pulled.
Lady Kim spits back that Madam Min should seek professional help, but the latter is way past reason, even threatening to burn Lady Kim’s face with a soldering iron. Now that Madam Min has nothing left to protect, she has nothing to lose.
Slapping and cursing at Lady Kim again, Madam Min swears to return here every day to torture—Lady Kim better pray that Kyung-joon comes back alive. Madam Min relishes in this taste of violence, leaving a frightened Lady Kim sobbing in her wake.
Lady Kim pulls herself up by the bootstraps, contemplating how she once thought a chaebol’s wife and herself were on completely different levels, but now knows that all people are the same with their own vulnerabilities. She vows through tears that the gloves are off now.
Now for some cute: Ji-yi delivers some chicory to Chang-soo’s office per his earlier request. He teases that this means she likes him too, since she didn’t have to deliver them herself. She blames her feelings on him going out of his way to fix that broken streetlamp outside her place.
But Chang-soo replies that he barely lifted a finger—all it took was a simple phone call to the district office. She deflates. Rising from his seat, Chang-soo asks if she thinks every relationship must end in marriage for her, and when she shakes her head no, he counters, “So why can’t you go out with me?”
Dating and not getting married and dating with a strict rule of no marriage are two very different things, Ji-yi argues. But Chang-soo points out that they could date and she could realize that she doesn’t want to marry him. He’s given this a lot of thought, and there’s no reason why they shouldn’t try dating. Lookatchu with your reverse psychology tactics.
Declaring that they’ve just agreed to see each other now, he asks her out to dinner, referring to himself as a guy who “wins” day or night (i.e., always gets his way). That complements Ji-yi’s tendency to always give in, and it’s only after he sends her on her way does Chang-soo break into a smile.
After discovering Yoon-ha’s name among the company shareholders, Ye-won doesn’t understand why or how her youngest sister bought those shares. When told that Kyung-joon may have bought them for her, she now believes Kyung-joon and Yoon-ha had formed an alliance behind her back.
She doesn’t feel at all threatened by the total 2.1 percent stake Yoon-ha has. That is, until she hears the rumored plans of Chairman Jang making Yoon-ha into an exec and giving her more shares. Sharing how her father had men who took care of all his unpleasant business, she hints to the secretary that that’s the kind of yes man she needs.
After dampening Yoon-ha’s mood by instructing her to come house, Ye-won sits down with her mother just after the latter instructs Butler Hong to “let the two of them compete until my death” and agreeing to accept whatever the result may be, even though we don’t know exactly what that means.
Ye-won sighs upon hearing that her mother has requested an investigation into Kyung-joon’s “death.” She can empathize as a fellow mother, understanding how devastating the idea of losing a child can be. She encourages her mother to lean on her, and Madam Min lets her daughter simply be there for her.
In the car, Yoon-ha shares how she told her family all sorts of excuses to keep her part-time job under wraps. Her brother was the only one who knew the truth, and she took extra measures to keep her wealthy background hidden.
Working part-time opened her eyes to a world beyond the one she had ever known, where one never had to worry about money. She’ll be an open book to any of his questions, but Joon-ki says they can take their time.
It turns out Deputy Sung has been tailing Joon-ki for Chang-soo’s hyung, who finds the idea of both Joon-ki and Chang-soo possibly dating a couple of part-timers amusing. He takes a keen interest in who his little brother is seeing. Oh no you don’t—you leave Ji-yi alone!
Speaking of whom, Chang-soo takes Ji-yi out shopping before their dinner date. She pouts at the shopping spree, but Chang-soo’s the one who wants the typical storybook romance where the rich guy and poor girl are dating.
Commence the quintessential makeover sequence, with Chang-soo judging each outfit she tries on. Buying a dress is only the beginning, and when asked if he must have money to burn, he nods.
Smiling at her new wardrobe, Ji-yi says he must’ve bought lots of gifts for women in the past. Sure, he replies, but it isn’t often he’s here in person to buy them those gifts. That makes Ji-yi feel extra special, but then she’s left to carry her own shopping bags.
Chang-soo takes her out to sushi, and I love how Ji-yi silently nudges him to pull out the chair for her like a gentleman. He introduces Ji-yi as his girlfriend to the chef, which aww. Despite the language barrier, Ji-yi is quick to deduce the chef’s compliment about how she’s the prettiest girl Chang-soo has ever brought. Hahaha.
She nearly cries at how good the food is, which Chang-soo finds absolutely endearing. A girl after my own heart, Ji-yi is.
Joon-ki and Yoon-ha’s date in his apartment is more low-key. He asks if she’s tired when she lets out another yawn. Sitting her down on his bed, Joon-ki insists that she rests her eyes while he prepares dinner. She struggles to keep her eyes open as Joon-ki lays her head on the pillow. She falls asleep within seconds.
Back at home, Ye-won reveals her intention of moving back in. Her marriage is in shambles and it’s her filial duty to serve her parents and put them at ease. At Butler Hong’s worries if Madam Min could deal with losing a son and her eldest daughter getting divorced, she says the best thing he can do is help her come to terms with reality.
After asking who is leading the investigation, she settles into the chair, as if cementing her place back home for good.
Once Chang-soo pulls up to her place, Ji-yi admits to have enjoyed her fairytale-like evening, but now it’s time to return to reality, and instructs him to return all the clothes tomorrow. She was curious about what it’d be like to feel like Cinderella for a few hours, only to realize she couldn’t help but constantly count pennies in her head.
Her shameless thoughts of how pricey that bag was or how she wants to eat that divine expensive food again make her despise herself. Turning to Chang-soo, she suggests that they break up. At his argument that they’ve been an item for less than twelve hours, she retorts that some celebrity marriages last for mere days.
Annoyed now, Chang-soo pulls her back to ask if she used him just so she could feel like a princess tonight. He hates that feeling of being used, and gets worked up when she brings up that damned streetlamp again.
He’s still miffed when she instructs him to bow his head a little, which is when Ji-yi pulls him in for a kiss. Needless to say, Chang-soo is taken aback, and Ji-yi confesses, “I’m starting to like you.”
“I wasn’t going to like you… but you’re too cute,” she pouts. Well ain’t that the truth. Spending time with him is like a dream, and she initially thought Chang-soo personally fixed that streetlamp for her. “Nothing in life may be free, but things in love are free.”
The more she likes Chang-soo, the more she hates the person she’s becoming, but Chang-soo couldn’t adore her any more than he does now. He pulls her back to say, “You’ve got this ability to make a guy feel a sense of responsibility” before swooping in for a proper kiss.
Yoon-ha stirs awake when Mama Lee calls to check in on her son. Joon-ki figures that every mother worries about their child eating proper meals, but Yoon-ha solemnly notes how her mother doesn’t fall into that category.
She’s had a restful nap thanks to him, though acknowledges that she’d be upset if someone had prematurely woke her from her sweet slumber. Hm, interesting choice of words there. She deflates at hearing that he’ll take her home after they eat, telling him she doesn’t want to go back home.
Joon-ki takes a beat before saying that’s fine and she can call home then. But Yoon-ha replies that no one at home cares enough anyway. “What if I say… I don’t ever want to go home?” Er, does she even know what those words sound like to a guy’s ears? Joon-ki registers the nuance and tells her not to go.
He gives her another chance to change her mind when he finds her a ball of nerves in the bathroom. But Yoon-ha hints that a lady needs a few essentials when sleeping over elsewhere which calls for some late-night shopping.
When Joon-ki shares how he once did the same with his college girlfriend at the time, Yoon-ha is oddly naive about talking about exes in one’s current relationship when she’s sorta-maybe knows what it means to sleep over at her boyfriend’s place. Slipping his hand into hers, he points to an outfit. Yoon-ha doesn’t care what she gets, as long as he likes it.
She’s mortified while trying to buy a bra when the saleswoman suggests that her boyfriend here must love that she has a busty chest. Thankfully Joon-ki plays dumb, and Yoon-ha insists on buying it herself since he should save his hard-earned money.
Following a gratuitous shower where Chang-soo happily recalls Ji-yi’s confession of her feelings, his mother bursts into his room to announce that she’s arranged another seon for him. Although he knows the potential date, he isn’t interested.
Even though his mother wants to see him married soon, she knows Chang-soo isn’t the type to bring home some poor girl to marry out of love. She warns him about all the golddiggers out there, but Chang-soo says there are decent girls out there too.
That prompts her to ask who exactly, but Chang-soo sidesteps the question. His mother is dead-set on her son marrying someone of equal social status—it’s bad enough that he’s such good friends with Joon-ki, who’s sure to feel less than sterling next to him.
Chang-soo defends his friend—Joon-ki could’ve worked at a better company, but stayed to help him out. His mother thinks that he’s done enough for Joon-ki by buying him an apartment and car, and simply advises to draw a clear boundary.
He changes the subject by asking after his own future at Yumin, noting that he’s been doing far better than Hyung ever since joining the company. His mother is already on it, and the way she switches topics again has him point out that she’s just like another girl he knows. Again he’s asked who that is and Chang-soo avoids answering.
At home, Ji-yi pulls her hair at the realization that she’s fallen head over heels for Chang-soo. She smiles when she receives a text from him moments later, impressed when he corrects her spelling. He gets antsy when she doesn’t reply right away, worried that she might be angry with him.
In truth, Ji-yi is holding back because she knows she’ll be the one who ends up hurt. Her finger hovers over deleting his number when a call comes through. It’s Chang-soo, whom she scolds for speaking in such a gentle, affectionate voice.
He gets annoyed at that, but she explains it’s only because she likes him and misses him already. “Why didn’t you just say so?” he beams. Next thing we know, he’s dressed and about to leave when his mother wonders where he’s headed off to when he usually doesn’t ever leave the house after he takes a shower. O rly.
Sitting down for some PPL dessert, Joon-ki asks why Yoon-ha’s never had a boyfriend before. He can tell by her actions alone, looking unconvinced by her defense that sure, she’s dated before, but it yunno, never lasted. Then she admits to always being on-guard because people act differently once they realize she’s a chaebol’s daughter and she hates that.
But Joon-ki believes that a person’s background still makes up an innate part of who someone is and greatly influences their life. Yoon-ha disagrees, arguing that she can change her background, but if she changes with it, then she wouldn’t be herself anymore.
Joon-ki drops the subject for now, and the two go out for a tandem bike ride by the river. Revealing that he and Chang-soo often race their bikes together, Joon-ki says Chang-soo enjoys bicycles because they require work versus an external power source.
Yoon-ha reveals having been on a seon with Chang-soo once, asking if that bothers him. Joon-ki encourages her to come clean now if she tends to obsess over guys. Her mind says no, but I’d bet her heart says otherwise.
Ji-yi plays coy when Chang-soo comes to visit her after all. Still, seeing him makes her happy, boasting of the nighttime view from her rooftop. She marvels at how large his hand is, which he then uses to cover her face with. He gets annoyed when she does the same, only to give in when she points out the double standard.
Asked if there’s a limit on kisses per day, Chang-soo can hardly believes this Ji-yi to be the same girl who didn’t want to date him. When she acts aloof about it, he kisses her. “I’ll do everything you ask of me. What else shall I do for you?” he asks. Stick a fork in me, I’m done.
Ji-yi wonders what it’d be like if they had been star-crossed lovers in the Joseon era. That spurs a random fantasy where they’re caught by his noblewoman mother. Ji-yi is sentenced to be punished, and when she cries in desperation… Young Master Chang-soo asks his mother to give him another woman then. “How can you take a toy away from me in such a cruel manner?” Ji-yi: “Heol. Daebak.”
It’s great how unamused Chang-soo is by this tale, but her point is that times have changed and they’re of equal status now. Chang-soo argues there’s still a difference, but she retorts that doesn’t mean one ranks higher than the other.
Chang-soo can’t get onboard with that perspective yet, and Ji-yi can’t help but feel a bit disappointed. He doesn’t budge, so Ji-yi wraps him in a back hug. She knows he’s a bad boy and she should be careful, but she likes him anyway.
That melts Chang-soo’s heart, and he finally gives in, remarking on how nice the view is up here. He draws back when she tries touching his ear, citing that he doesn’t like it. “Even if I touch it?” she asks, and he gives in again.
After sharing how he was the studious one while Chang-soo was the classically popular guy in high school, Joon-ki turns the question to her. When Yoon-ha says she loved Ji-yi’s frankness and transparency, he asks how two people can be close friends when one keeps secrets from the other. Speak for yourself, sir.
Yoon-ha plans on coming clean to her friend, whom she knows will understand in the end. She switches gears to ask what he had lied about to her back when she confessed she had done the same on the rooftop earlier today.
He’s surprised that she’d remember him saying that. What she hates most is being lied to, and Joon-ki replies that he merely said he lied too in order to comfort her. Upon hearing her future plans to pursue cosmetics once she moves out, Joon-ki wonders why she’d go back to start from square one when she’s been born with the upper hand in life.
She repeats that her background doesn’t define who she is. He says she’s saying that because she’s still trying to turn her dreams into reality. When she asks if he’s been successful at doing that then, he truthfully admits, “Not yet. I’m on my way of doing so.”
He’s in no position to talk if they’re both in the same boat, she smiles. However, this entire conversation has Joon-ki troubled.
Madam Min drunkenly stumbles over to Chairman Jang to rouse him from his slumber. She grabs at his hair, only to let out a maniacal laugh upon realizing that he has no hair to pull. Chairman Jang won’t stand for her drunk behavior, and Madam Min wonders aloud how the once warm and kind-hearted man turned into the cruel monster he is now.
“Has time made you this way?” she cries. She blames her wretched life on him, to which she’s told that her life was of her own making. He orders her out, and Madam Min stumbles out again, cackling.
We cut back to Joon-ki’s apartment, where he makes a fine post-shower exit. It’s not even my birthday and we get two shower scenes? Yum. He wipes off the steam in the mirror to stare back at his reflection.
Thinking back to Yoon-ha’s words of how a person ceases to be himself when one changes with his background and if he ever turned his dreams into reality, he narrates darkly, “Your reality is my dream. Just wait… I’ll get there.”
COMMENTS
Again, High Society hands us morsels with Joon-ki’s cryptic narration, though I think we can all make the connection that he’s referring to Yoon-ha’s wealthy roots versus his more humble upbringing. What I want to know is what Joon-ki hopes to gain from achieving success and perhaps one day living an affluent lifestyle. We’re missing that piece of key motivation from his character—he’s been presented with the opportunity to advance (be it working at a more successful company or spying on his friend for his gain), but we’ve yet to see some overt actions towards that goal.
His pursuing a relationship with Yoon-ha could easily be that active step, even if we’ve yet to know his true intentions for dating her. Trying to figure Joon-ki out is both a tough and dangerous endeavor, since the source of his motivation could be many a thing. I’m willing to wait and let the writing teach us whatever that may be, and simply hope that his reasoning is solid. I’ve been feeling this sense of disconnect from Joon-ki and Yoon-ha so far in this series—that’s something you don’t want, especially when they’re supposed to be the ones supplying us viewers with the representative perspective about this dramaverse. When you’ve got a hero keeping his secrets close to the vest and a heroine who tries to balance her idealistic desires and her virtually unreal reality, sometimes deciphering their words is a trial.
Not all is lost of course, because I do enjoy how we learn tidbits of certain characters through others. One that comes to mind is Joon-ki’s mention of why Chang-soo prefers bicycles because one needs to exert work. It’s an interesting perspective that departs from other classic second-generation chaebols, who don’t ever appear to be working. Although I suppose Chang-soo’s too busy being Romeo right now to continue purusing that goal to overshadow his older brother at the company.
Perhaps it’s because Chang-soo’s much more of an open book that I enjoy following his storyline. There’s so much I want for him and so many things that I hope he learns over the course of his series. I already love that he would do practically anything for his best bud Joon-ki, and yet so naive to the idea that while a difference in socioeconomic status doesn’t bother him it could very well be a chip on Joon-ki’s shoulder. He seems to have a tougher time reconciling that idea when it comes to Ji-yi, though I suppose it’s because he lurves her in a different way. What can I say—my heart bleeds for the kid.
Speaking of which, I had a tough time going along with the idea that the jinx Yoon-ha put so much importance into the previous hour flew out the window the moment Joon-ki kissed her. She had made it sound like a critical lifelong affliction, which went poof! in this episode. Even stranger are her reasons for saying how she wants to separate herself from her rich background yet argues that trying to change oneself while changing their background means losing one’s identity. If that what she’s trying to say, that is. It feels like I’m constantly scratching my head when it comes to Yoon-ha because I want to follow her logic in having her make a name for herself, yet I can’t pinpoint where she puts her own identity in—herself? A career? Her boyfriend? Happiness? Love? Or all the above?
In any case, the sooner her dreams can become our reality, the sooner I can root for her and know what I’m cheering for her. Because sometimes it’s hard for us ordinary folk down here to understand her heart if her head is up in the clouds.
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Tags: featured, High Society, Im Ji-yeon, Park Hyung-shik, Sung Joon, UEE
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26 Marthe
June 24, 2015 at 6:30 AM
I find Chang-soo and Ji-yi's story more interesting. ^_^) and he's so cute...but Sung Joon is just so hot. :D
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growingbeautifully
June 24, 2015 at 6:51 AM
@ Me and @ Marthe
I'm thinking that both couples are meant to be seen side by side. Probably we need to juxtapose and compare these relationships (whether we like one more than the other or neither) in order to draw come conclusions on what is wrong with their way of thinking and relating and how they should grow.
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM
I agree with GB unnie!
I see those two couples showing us different things in how they relate (or not) to each other, of how they treat and interact with each other, and the different motives behind their behaviors. Those things make me ponder, and yes, they make me think about how each character needs to grow, and what positive qualities s/he might have, whether that is showing (clearly) at the moment, or whether it is just a potential, but could come to the surface, if brought forth by experiences or through pain.
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27 sandra
June 24, 2015 at 7:04 AM
can't stop loving Chang so and his bae!
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28 paroles
June 24, 2015 at 7:12 AM
This drama just shows why cliches garner ratings. I watched the first 2 episodes of I Remember You and it's really interesting, and the investigation aspects are a lot better than TGWSS as well, but the ratings... Lol. On the other hand, there's something that brings me back to this drama even though it's completely obvious how the plot will pan out. I like Park Hyung-sik in this role. I thought he was awful in the KBS family drama (I forgot the name) but he's nice to watch here. I just hope that IJY will tone down a little on her acting.
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blubluskye
June 24, 2015 at 7:35 AM
I guess we all enjoy the fantasy that cliche love stories provide :) No different for Korean audiences.
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paroles
June 24, 2015 at 11:15 AM
I just find it weird why people are always complaining about cliches being used when well, there's a reason why they are used. Even makjang plots. I prefer them to plots which are slow and where nothing happens at all.
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MeganG
June 25, 2015 at 1:40 AM
There is nothing I love more than when one of my favorite cliches show up well executed! And nothing I hate more than when I see one poorly done...
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soapbox
June 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM
The story's cliche with tons of overused old tropes, but at least it's not plagiarized. I was going to try I Remember You this weekend, but it's being accused of plagiarism right now. A writer submitted the story to a CJ script exhibits, they eliminated the story, and now CJ's making a drama out of the same story with a different writer.
I can't support that and it deserves poor ratings.
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August
June 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM
Update:
“I Remember You” Faces Plagiarism Accusations, Production Team Responds
http://www.soompi.com/2015/06/23/i-remember-you-faces-plagiarism-accusations-production-team-responds/
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soapbox
June 24, 2015 at 10:17 AM
Nobody's buying this explanation actually. Knetizens are going in on them after this article. The story was submitted on July 1st of last year to the CJ exhibition, and then the 'I Remember You' story was registered it on July 17th even though they claim they came up with it way before. The same company that eliminated the original story is the one producing I Remember You. There are so many circumstances that it's hard to consider it all a coincidence, nobody believes them so they better come up with better evidence.
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soapbox
June 24, 2015 at 10:27 AM
then the ‘I Remember You’ drama was registered on July 17th*
paroles
June 24, 2015 at 11:27 AM
Well, I'm not taking sides right now. It's just the 2nd episode.
soapbox
June 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM
@paroles
Even if it were plagiarized, nothing going to happen to it anyway. That's just how things are. The King's Face was famously plagiarized from The Face Reader and it still made it on air. What kind of weird luck does Seo Inguk have lol, two dramas in a row.
nomad
June 24, 2015 at 6:01 PM
Really? That is too bad! I happen to be in love with I remember U right now...
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windsun33
June 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM
There are clichés and there is this show - which seems to be nothing but clichés. Not a plot line in there we have not seen a dozen times.
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Odessa Jones
June 25, 2015 at 2:18 PM
One viewer's "overused cliche" is another viewer's "common story element."
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29 saltish
June 24, 2015 at 7:28 AM
Hehe I love this episode so much because of the progression on CSxJY's relationship.
CS can be a jerk at times like not helping JY to carry her bags but I guess that's how he is. Bossy, commanding yet bringing the best for you. It would be good if he carried but that won't be him anymore, if that makes sense. And by looking at JY, I guess she doesn't hate it either, though the part where she demanded the chair be pulled is cute and funny XD
OH and I don't think JY understands any foreign languages, remember she said about her limited qualification? She was merely guessing (and spot on!) what the chef was saying :P Hence CS was amused and surprised haha.
I would say CSxJY is an innocent, naive and honest couple. CS looooooooveeees how honest she is and he likes that aspect of her.
Episode 6 spoiler-
CS himself is a naive and innocent without any ulterior motives person. He prefers his friends to be open to him and no secrets at all. Which is why he love how direct JY is. He find JY special probably because everyone around him get close to him because of his status and they all have ulterior motives who wants to make use of him. While JY may be poor, but she has no other motives, she even tried so hard to avoid him and not fall in love with him. CS is attracted to people like this, JY per say.
Hence, he was furious and felt betrayed when JK kind of hide and lie to him about dating YH.
I guess this is why JK told CS that he (CS) is a sentimental person, wants to be cruel but he can never actually be cruel. I somehow understand what he meant by that - CS is arrogant, somehow always looking at the status of a person, not helping JY to carry her bags, not helping JY to pull her chair, a typical chaebol. Yet, he is always sincere to the people he likes or treat as friends, you can see this when CS was talking to his mom. He's always defending JK whenever anyone tries to badmouth JK. He gets angry when his brother went to humiliate JY. He is always giving in to JY even though he dislikes it. He wanted to pull down his brother (when he was asking for some ideas from JK), yet he mentioned that he don't want to hurt his sister-in-law.
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So, I've been vouching that CS is a nice guy, many may be thinking why JY keep saying that he's a bad person.
To JY, CS is a bad guy whom she shouldn't even be touching otherwise she will be the one who would be hurt in the end. She is much stronger than anyone else among the 4 lead. She knows what she's getting out of this relationship yet, she still falls into it knowing that the end won't be happiness. Therefore, she thinks that CS is a bad guy who can't give her happiness or in this case, marriage.
JY is starting to get hurt as the drama progress. 1) Getting called and humiliated by CS's brother, 2) Last one to know that CS and YH went to blind date before.
But her character is strong, she wasn't all that depressed anymore after talking to YH after the "CS bro's...
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saltish
June 24, 2015 at 7:29 AM
"CS bro's ordeal", CS was also surprised that she could cheer up easily. She told him that, if anyone of them are hurt during the relationship, they'll just break off since they're not married anyways. This whole conversation somehow enlightened and touched CS, knowing how strong JY is. However, at the same time, the stronger you are, the more vulnerable you are.
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30 blubluskye
June 24, 2015 at 7:31 AM
When Chang-soo told Ji-yi “you’ve got this ability to make a guy feel a sense of responsibility” - I'm seriously hoping that he means what he says... let the melodramatic storm come, but you Chang-soo, hold on to Ji-yi!!
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 4:57 PM
+ 10, 000
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31 Jenni
June 24, 2015 at 8:28 AM
So in love with Chang-soo and Ji-yi ahhh. I'm so worried about Chang-soo's next course of action though... because he's all about his status aka he's gonna ditch Ji-yi for a political marriage with Yoon-ha. :/
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM
About this, " because he’s all about his status aka he’s gonna ditch Ji-yi for a political marriage with Yoon-ha. :/"
Yikes!!!! I hope that does not happen. And if asked, I hope YH will decline.
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miilo
June 24, 2015 at 6:55 PM
I think YH will go 180 after she finds out that JK has been lying to her all this time and decides to take over the company, marry CS for some reason (who heartily agrees after some stupid misunderstanding with JY) and embrace the chaebol life in all her might...that about two ep or so, where guys have lots of broody showers and girls cry buckets in secret...until she runs back to JK, though I don´t know what´ll happen to JY and CS. I sorta hope that they won´t end up together.
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Jenni
June 25, 2015 at 9:41 AM
AHHH that's exactly what I don't want to happen!!!
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32 esjpx
June 24, 2015 at 9:25 AM
[Even stranger are her reasons for saying how she wants to separate herself from her rich background yet argues that trying to change oneself while changing their background means losing one’s identity.]
I thought Yoon Ha was trying to say the opposite? I understood it as replying "if my identity changes when my background changes, that's not me" when Joon Gi told her a person is their background, and then he decided it to let it rest since they'd never be able to agree. I think I'm going to have watch it again now.
I'm so looking forward to Chang Soo vs Joon Gi, and I hope Yoon Ha gives him hell when she finds out about his true motivations.
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33 PeepsLeAwesomePotato
June 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM
To me, what JoonKi wants is power, so that NOBODY can ever look down on him or his family, not even ChangSoo (who honestly does unconsciously look down on him). And in Korea, there's nothing higher than being a full-fledged Chaebol. (Actually, even just being a son-in-law won't cut it (see Mask). You gotta be the irreplaceable right-hand man (still considered a dog) or the one with the most shares. It's a little extreme in method and perspective, but I think showing him overcoming that is his arc and the show's responsibility.
YoonHa wants freedom but doesn't want the stifling conditions of middle-class life (like having to work for the income). I think she means that a person's background can influence a person but it is not the person itself and that the person is the same as all other persons and can do anything he/she wants irregardless of his/her background (I think. I never really know what she's saying because to me, she's naive and a little muddled in her thoughts or expectations of reality.)
Her idea of preparing to leave is of her being allowed to live a similar lifestyle without connections to her family, but she doesn't know exactly what it takes to let her live her current lifestyle and how much is enough and so she's all over the place. Like... she expects to leave with a villa and condo... eh... I think with her, it's that she knows what she doesn't want (a crazy family like hers) but she's not sure of what exactly she wants and how to get there while keeping her status quo. She'll say she'll give up many things to be middle-class if it will make others treat her like the ordinary citizen and not expect money or opportunities to be pouring out of her mouth but she'll refuse to give up her villa and condo and being allowed (not that she has to) to be a bum with unlimited choices.
The irony is that her background IS her because she's still seeing things (even with extensive supermarket-floor-level part time work) with un-ordinary perspectives and she cannot truly understand the perspective or the vulnerabilities and complexes of people who grew up "ordinary" and how they think, courtesy of her crazy background and because she's never experienced what they've experienced their whole life.
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
June 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM
And one's thinking affects his choices and decisions and those shape his interactions with others and therefore his destiny. Thus, background influences and forms a VERY large part of a person and not just a small, insignificant part like she thinks it is.
YoonHa is a mystery to me, cause I'm not a Chaebol.
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Jon G.
June 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM
Great stuff, Peeps. I called her a hypocrite before, but your "essay" elaborates that much better ...
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miilo
June 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM
Don´t get it. If you can leave the house with a villa and a condo in your pocket, why not?
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
June 24, 2015 at 8:21 PM
Sure, who wouldn't want a villa or a condo for free. But that's not the issue here.
The issue is that she expects the world to see her on the same level as the rest while exclusively retaining the benefits of being the richest top 1%. And she takes so long to leave that house because she must have those benefits and therefore delays leaving... which makes people question her sincerity of actually wanting to leave (like bro said he would if she didn't get her job (that she said was the only place that took her in) back before he died). You can't say you're not Chaebol while being adamant on keeping the Chaebol life/benefits. It's not just property. She's not willing to give up her chaebol lifestyle... which is just not possible without her family ('s money). She wants to be able to sue people when she can, drop jobs when she can and act all spoilt with no consequences... which is an exclusive benefit of chaebols (and politicians...).
She wants to be different but won't let the world call her different, which she IS. Plus she thinks being ordinary means people respect each other all willy-nilly and expect nothing of each other while helping each other and all dance the kumbaya around a bonfire. Sure, there are some good people like that, but hey, even middle-class school kids become bullies and even middle-class people have seon where they sniff out and calculate whether the other person is good for marriage. We're not perfect but she thinks that becoming one of us (with all her chaebol privilege) will let her live her fairytale life.
And those are really warped expectations of reality. With her, it's not outright hipocrisy but more of ignorance-based hipocrisy.
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34 fantasy
June 24, 2015 at 10:21 AM
I read many have problems with characters in this drama but for me it was actually the characters which attract me . I admit story telling is not so very good, they seem to have problem with showing many stories in one episode , two couples, then Yoon Ha rich family's poor mother, ambitious older sister, abusive father and his mistress' story, then Sung Joon's family story, Chang Soo and his older brother's cold war, they just hop one to another in almost every episode. I am happy with this episode they really spent time with the couple so that we get to know their similarities and differences more.
I told before I like the characters because they are not flawless or some ideal people. I truly connect with the characters. like Joon Ki , he is not happy with background, and want to do every thing ethical/unethical to reach his goal. But again he wants to, not necessarily he can do it because he was brought up with some values induced so that though he tries, he cant go beyond a limit, like he couldn't leave his parents for a chayebol daughter. Though he has made a great plan with YH, it seems he still have to win a war with his inner self.
Then Chang Soo, well his best point is honesty. He knows he is rich he shows it. He knows he is socially at higher level than JK he tells him on his face. But have to admit he says that but he always stands for his friend against anyone, be it Yoon Ha, his brother or mother. He told Ji yi before hand he cant marry her.Though he is lacking in many ways he does care a lot for who he loves.
Yoon Ha on the other hand can clearly differentiate the advantages and disadvantages of chaebol. she is not thinking being poor is cool and lovely. I know she is trusting JK too much to be called very intelligent but she is not a fool either.
Ji Yi, she is also straight forward and honest. Yes she chases after her dreams knowing that it woork n't last long. But we sometimes do that don't we??? Ji Yi too easily expresses her liking towards Chang Soo, that often put Chang Soo off guard. I dont know why, he told YH that he likes Yi Ji but never could not tell Ji Yi that. I think his conscience started to work.
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 5:07 PM
@ fantasy,
I really loved your comment. I too have some mixed feelings about CS. As you pointed out, he has defended JK to his mom, his brother and YH. He still doesn't treat JK as an equal however, and he puts him down to his face. That is not OK, in my book.
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fantasy
June 24, 2015 at 6:23 PM
@Ivoire
First of all reading your deep thoughts after a long Time :) and regarding CS, of course that was not okay, everyone's background plays a major role in making their character. Just think his mom constantly reminding him the social status, it must affected him. But still he doesn't play friends friends with JK and tell others " Chingu???? Huh just a subordinate" .... He could do that right??
I feel this drama will work on character development of all the leads, If you noticed CS is already started to change but we have to wait for Joon Ki :)
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Ek Ladhki Thi
June 24, 2015 at 6:33 PM
*claps* perfect words. I agree with everything you said. I'm getting the feeling that Joon-gi does like Chang-soo in his own way, but he is too blinded by ambition to see anything else. And it's not until he loses his friend and the girl he likes before he can come back from the edge.
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Dahlia
June 24, 2015 at 8:12 PM
I agree with your comment about the story telling. Some of the lines will undoubtedly tie in, like Changsoo's older brother, but do we really need so much air time devoted to Yoonha's mother and the mistress? Does anyone look forward to her mother cackling/throwing things/crying or the mistress sitting around her house? (My only hope is they somehow join forces later to take down Yoonha's dad lol.)
I do have problems with a lot of the characters, but it all comes back to the writing and a lack of internal logic. Sometimes it feels like the writer forgets what words they had come out of the character's mouth previously. Still, the cast is doing a great job and despite my issues, I agree with a lot of what you wrote about the characters. :)
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35 dramaqueen4
June 24, 2015 at 11:41 AM
I've been reading through the comments on HS recaps for a while now and am a bit disturbed by how much my opinion differs from the majority. I don't mean to offend the CS/JY fans, but I simply cannot stand the second lead couple on this show. Earlier comments about harmful cliches and gratuitous makeovers are spot on.
I'm more intrigued by Sung Joon's character as a reversal of the social climbing female trope. He's like the anti-Candy. Honestly, I get why his relationship seems awkward now--it's not based on trust or honest emotion. And I think the reason we don't know more about his motives at this point is because the show has become so second-lead focused. I'm sorry, but I can't heel but feel that any originality in character or plot is being stamped by a garden variety chaebol romance.
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Jon G.
June 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM
I understand your sentiment here. There is a rather stark contrast between the two couples, it's like they are part of two different shows with two different genres. Neither of them work right now, from a story-telling point of view. Yes, they both cover different aspects of the chaebol romance, but sometimes focus is better than mere coverage.
JK could be an intriguing character if only there was a little bit more meat and consistency in that story arc. YH could be a nice deconstruction of the well-meaning spoiled brat, but there are only little touches here and there, before the show bounds back to stock scenes that nobody cared about anymore half a decade ago.
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Jenni
June 24, 2015 at 12:26 PM
It should probably start picking up next week due to Chang-soo's weird why-you-take-Yoonha behaviour clashing with Joon-ki's motives.
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t-inthesky
June 24, 2015 at 3:32 PM
i'm not a CS/JY fan, and i'm not average k-drama fan. i'm always different from the majority here and there, in comment section, or year end awards voting, or...etc.
the majority doesn't mean maturity, quality, good taste or anything. as you know it. and that's why we often see bad actors get loved and bad movies get money or oscars, right?
i come here mainly to improve my english. i read some different opinions, and i don't really care them. just chill.
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36 danydanybobany
June 24, 2015 at 11:52 AM
It rarely happens to me. If Im going to like a couple I need to see more interaction and the build of the relationship. But UEE and Sung Joon look so good together I just want to look at them more. But more development wouldn't hurt.
I laughed so much with the Joseon era clip. Those two are adorable.
Thank you for the recap!
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37 Fun-Lugha
June 24, 2015 at 2:40 PM
When it comes to this drama am very easy to please-just give me second leads' cute moments every 5 mins and am a happy camper!Hands down my fav show airing right now!
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38 toodles
June 24, 2015 at 3:11 PM
I find Joon Ki to be guarded rather than cold. He can't be completely free with his feelings and ideas because he doesn't know how his rich friend will respond to it. He is in a "servant" role rather than a friendship of equals. If other kdramas are any indication, chaebols can be very fickle bunch. All his goals can easily be derailed if he should offend Chang so or his mother or any other rich person. It is just too dangerous to show too much ambition at this stage of life.
His goal is to move up to a better life using his brain. In his previous relationship, I believe his heart took 2nd place. He chose a woman with enough wealth to help him. She turned out to be a bit nasty about his parents so he dropped her. He does have some guidelines to reaching his goals. He feels guilt in lying and taking advantage of Yoon Ha. Time will tell how far to the dark side he will go. I find him a complex character to play and watch. Very realistic!
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 4:39 PM
@ Toodles,
I agree with your comment, and I appreciate it. You said some of what I have been wanting to say, but didn't know how to say it. I honestly don't find JK to be cold, not so far. He shows glimmers of guilt, and he is often taken aback by YH's affectionate reactions, and in spite of him wanting to stay cold and calculating, I feel that he is developing feelings for YH as well, which I hope will go deep. I feel that he also sees some of YH's wonderful qualities (like how she treats his mom), and he likes that about her. And to be honest, YH is great with JK's mom. I love seeing the two of them together.
Concerning CS and his friendship with JK, one of the litmus tests for me is how CS (and his mom) would be treating JK if JK were in the same social stratosphere or higher. I believe that CS would not treat JK the way he has been treating him, if JK was equal or above him socially. He would truly respect him, or he would feel inferior to JK, since JK works hard, and he is smart (and he learned how to speak Japanese, and he hasn't been to the country yet).
And I agree with this, "He is in a “servant” role rather than a friendship of equals. If other kdramas are any indication, chaebols can be very fickle bunch. All his goals can easily be derailed if he should offend Chang so or his mother or any other rich person." Hence why JK is quite careful around CS, and though he might stay around CS for what he can gain, it is not as if CS is getting absolutely nothing in return either. Also, wasn't there a line where CS told his mom that JK could have gone to work for a better company, or a better position, but went instead to help CS?
I do have to say though that to me, it seems as if JK does try to tell CS what he honestly think, but if CS does not like what he is hearing, he literally puts JK in his place, and that has to hurt, and sting (there's an example of that in ep.4).
And I totally agree with this, "I find him a complex character to play and watch. Very realistic!"
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39 Evelia
June 24, 2015 at 3:21 PM
I only liked the second couple and will watch this drama just for them.
I don't understand the main couple and their goals in their life.
This episode just makes me ask myself why I should care? And that's the problem by now in the drama I feel that I don't feel any connection with the main lead. I don't even know why they like each other.
Thanks for the recap.
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40 Camille W
June 24, 2015 at 4:03 PM
"I’ve been feeling this sense of disconnect from Joon-ki and Yoon-ha so far in this series..."
I've been feeling the same way. I've been TRYING to get these two but its just not happening. Its a chore. And that shouldn't be. Its kinda weird too bc when YH and JK kissed last ep I felt the passion. But is that bc he's a good kisser or what? On the contrary, JY and CS's kiss left me kinda cold. Maybe its the angle of the kiss or lack of experience. idk. And its strange bc I rooting for them. They made the ep for me. If I wasn't dedicated I'd have skipped YK and JK's scenes. But I didn't. I watched everything and still can't connect with the two.
If next ep is like this I might drop this one.
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juliesean
June 24, 2015 at 11:24 PM
Same here. I didn't feel their connection and only fast forwarded to JY and CS scenes. I'm more invested in them than the main OTP who still left me cold.
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41 windsun33
June 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM
This show is just not grabbing me at all, and neither are the characters. It seems like everyone is just doing some weird puppet dance to follow the script - but the script does not always make sense. And so far I really have no idea what anyone's motives are.
Will watch another episode or two, but if it does not get more coherent really fast going to give up on it.
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42 sulthanah
June 24, 2015 at 5:25 PM
Out of topic....after hyungshik, siwan and kwang hee become big, l hope SE will give ZE: A a proper come back. Unlike last year comeback which was a bis mess. Hyungshikkie fighting. You have got a lot of love which l hope can guide people to help ZE:A get number one on music show. Junyoung and ZE:A need recognition.
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juliesean
June 24, 2015 at 11:23 PM
Actually Siwan got the most love after Misaeng. Kwanghee was popular in variety while Hyungik only started getting popular only in his last drama What's Up with This Family.
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sulthanah
June 25, 2015 at 2:28 AM
Yup. You are right. That is why l ask a proper comeback for ZE:A. When they come back, no movies or drama for siwan and hyugshik. So, they will focus on doing ZE:A activities. Ot3, kwang hee, siwan and hyung shik have got much money for star empire. So, please treat them well. They are singers. Hyung shik's voice is jjang. Siwan is beautiful too. I realy hope it will happen because siwan and kwang hee maybe enlist within two years. They are 88liners. So, one year comeback for zea next year will be a must.
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43 Jyc
June 24, 2015 at 6:53 PM
I just really really found that ear-touching scene so adorable. And everything that happened in that rooftop scene. They look like a couple dating in real life. So handsy. Hmm.
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Ivoire
June 24, 2015 at 7:00 PM
I love that ear-touching scene a lot as well. Especially the way in which PHS/CS said, "touch it, touch it," the ways in which he leaned into her, and the tone of his voice. That felt so intimate, so real. Like you said, as if they were dating in real life. That is the kind of intimacy I would like to see between CS and JY. It really works for the actors (they do it well), and the characters.
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huskergirl
June 25, 2015 at 8:35 AM
agree, and his ears indeed look funny, I kept staring at his ears (instead of face) after that scene lol
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44 Kaeka
June 24, 2015 at 7:57 PM
hope the story will continue nicely.
really want to see how's the story end
its getting interesting, because usually the main character of drama has personality like Ji Yi and Chang Soo, no wonder many people got chill with this couple
While character of Joon Gi, usually typical bad guy for antagonis.
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45 momoisluv
June 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM
Hyunhshik is just so adorbs in this show! I found myself giggling in some of his scenes. Plus keep the bromance going!
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46 JMK
June 25, 2015 at 5:31 AM
Go. Doo. Shim. - amazing turn. I've watched her in many dramas but never have I seen her this animated and intense. I'm looking forward to the evolving change that is overtaking Madam Min. Time for some payback for all the crap she has chosen to endure.
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47 sulthanah
June 25, 2015 at 5:47 AM
In reality, hyungshik is indeed rich
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48 Wendy Darling
June 25, 2015 at 7:11 AM
I really felt this while watching the drama..
that Chang Soo and Ji Yi felt like a pair that came out of the 1990's . They're especially like Ahn Jae Wook and Choi Jin Shil from this old drama Wish Upon A Star. (Min Hee and Yun Hee
They're pairing have a classic appeal and they really shine out. I think UEE is also fine but this may not be the best drama for Sung Joon oppa. The story makes him appear dull and uninteresting.
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49 pogo 🍉
June 25, 2015 at 9:00 AM
.....so this drama is the poor man's Nice Guy?
Complete with mercenary/user anti-hero, poor little rich girl heroine (though at least they went all the way with Moon Chae-won and made her a ruthless and competent businesswoman instead of a clueless young kid who wants to see life on the other side of the tracks) and cute friends/secondary couple who feel like they belong in another drama.
Though at least we kinda had a handle on Kang Maru's motives in NG, I can't really understand Joon-ki at all here.
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50 Grumpy
June 25, 2015 at 10:25 AM
I don't understand how this drama got high rating. I mean dont people feels kinda sick of chaebols storyline already? The only good thing about this drama is the cast. Its still lacking in many ways. The story itself, well... I scratch my head over and over to some logically unaccepted things goin on in my head.
we are introduced to Youn Ha a chaebol with a strong personality. She doesnt bow to people so easily, she's a survivor. But then out of nowhere, without a very strong reason and also so so so quickly, she falls for Joon Gi. I mean how in the world a strong bold girl like her fall for a man that easy?!? The same thing happen with the man. Well maybe he does has ill intention to start with. We dont know for sure. Yet. Lemme say that the development of the story is so bad. Everything's just happen too fast without a good explanation. I hate the fact that this drama is not that good. I've been waiting to see Sung Joon. ㅠㅠ
At least jiyi and chansoo are so cute and entertaining.
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