Girl Who Sees Smells: Episode 14
by javabeans
Hello, folks! I’m just popping in to pinch-hit this episode, which I’m happy to do since I’ve been enjoying the show with its cute chemistry and (as funny as it sounds) lightweight murder mystery. And while I would never argue that there aren’t flaws in the show, I find enough to keep me entertained.
Episode 14 closes in on our killer even more, and it’s quid pro quo time: He may get inside his victims’ heads, but that doesn’t mean a victim can’t get inside his, too. The question is, can this victim hold out long enough to find a safe way out?
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EPISODE 14 RECAP
Mu-gak shoots his way into Jae-hee’s house, then lays Jae-hee flat with a punch. He presses his gun to Jae-hee’s head and demands to know where Lieutenant Yeom is, his finger tightening on the trigger…
But his teammates burst in and drag him off, having heard the commotion while staking out the house. Mu-gak informs them about Yeom’s kidnapping, then heads off to look for her on the premises.
Jae-hee keeps an even keel and speaks pleasantly to Cho-rim, as though she weren’t glaring daggers at him. At her accusation of abducting Yeom, all he says is that he thought they were friends. Yes, but what about that part where friends don’t let friends kill their friends?
When Mu-gak enters the library o’ death, Yeom sees him on the camera that’s mounted in her cell. She screams and bangs on the wall hoping to get his attention, but just on the other side of the wall, he hears nothing. Jae-hee’s made certain of keeping his little murderous secret well under wraps, so Mu-gak wanders away and she slumps in dismay.
The detectives are forced to return to the station empty-handed, confused since they’d been staking out the house diligently and didn’t see Jae-hee leaving it. (Not that they’re that great at their jobs on the best of days.) But they’re sure he is the Barcode Killer, which only gives Yeom six days left to live.
Before the killing, though, Jae-hee instructs Yeom to fill a book with her life story, as he had all his previous victims do. The spine of the volume bears a barcode, and Yeom calls him a parasite for deriving vicarious pleasure by claiming others’ lives. Jae-hee informs her that if she refuses to write, he can kill her immediately rather than at the end of six days.
Mu-gak starts piecing together how Jae-hee managed the kidnapping—he must have talked to Cho-rim’s friend and set up the reunion, then observed the reunion from next door. He managed to stay off the security camera by having one of his homeless diners settle the bill in cash. Of course, he bungled the final step where he kidnapped the right person, but points for trying?
Mu-gak manages to find the man who paid the bill, and takes him to Jae-hee’s restaurant to confirm his identity. But thanks to Jae-hee’s disguise, he isn’t recognized and Mu-gak is stumped.
Day 3 of Lieutenant Yeom’s captivity. Jae-hee reads her entries and prods for greater detail, such as why she became a detective. Ever cool, she purposely drops her pen to bend down and surreptitiously fiddle with her perfume locket—smart of her—then grabs Jae-hee’s hand to transfer the scent. Her request for a clock is denied on the grounds that she doesn’t get to demand anything, since he controls this scenario. Interesting how the issue of control sparks his temper.
Too bad Yeom’s team isn’t as clever as she is, and the detectives’ stakeout is interrupted by Jae-hee himself, who walks right up to the car and knocks on their window. He drily informs them of his plans to leave for the next four hours, suggesting they can take a break. What, like they were working so hard before?
Jae-hee attends a fan signing event, and Cho-rim waits her turn in line and announces herself as Choi Eun-seol, startling him briefly. He’s further surprised when she asks him not to kill Yeom and take her instead, but he hides it well.
Cho-rim spies the telltale traces of Yeom’s perfume on his hand, just as Mu-gak storms into the room and flings a trash can at Jae-hee. He growls that he’ll get him, then pulls Cho-rim away while the bewildered crowd wonders what just happened.
Cho-rim had come here on her own without informing him of her intention, and he scolds her for hurtling into danger. She tells him of seeing Yeom’s scent, which confirms that he’s holding her at home, which would frankly be a more important revelation if the team didn’t already know that. Cho-rim says that she has to exchange herself for Yeom, wracked with guilt and unwilling to substitute Yeom’s safety for hers. “If she dies,” Cho-rim cries, “I wouldn’t be able to live!”
“What if you die?” Mu-gak asks. “Do you think I’d be able live? How could I live without you?” Aw, it’s heartfelt and wrought, and if nothing else I really do believe that this couple loves each other. Cho-rim asks what she’s supposed to do, and all he can do is hold her while blinking away his tears. She asks him to save Yeom, and he agrees.
In the white room of death, Jae-hee notes that Yeom drinks her coffee without fear, which, knowing his proclivities, is pretty brave of her. She replies pragmatically that he wouldn’t kill her yet—not while she has yet to finish writing about her high school days. Point taken.
He mentions wanting to bring more people into this room, such as Mu-gak. She asks why, and he answers meaningfully, “Not everything in the world has a reason.” She notes to herself that Jae-hee is looking for legitimization for his murders.
Day 4. Cho-rim goes to see Jae-hee and repeats her request to swap hostages, offering herself in exchange for Yeom’s safe release. Jae-hee looks taken aback, but rejects her flat and tells her not to approach him about this again.
He mentions Cho-rim’s offer to Yeom, musing that this must be what friendship is like. Yeom retorts that Jae-hee wouldn’t know that feeling.
Despite Jae-hee’s refusal, Cho-rim suspects he was just being wary. Mu-gak is more intent than ever on finding a way into that secret room, and they discuss a plan that we don’t hear.
Yeom continues her profiling of Jae-hee, concluding that he feels pleasure in “having” the lives of his victims—that in killing, he can possess them. He’s discomfited at her perceptiveness and tries to shut her down, but she prods anyway: He wasn’t always unable to recognize faces, and developed the disorder out of the trauma of abuse. His brain is rejecting people’s faces. When he gave into his thirst to kill, he considered himself seeing his victims’ lives rather than their faces.
Jae-hee’s unsettled to admit that she’s accurate. She tells him he’s deluded, however, because he’s never “had” those lives, and even laughs in his face, which prickles his temper. He offers her a chance to gain hours of her life by answering a question correctly—or losing hours if she’s incorrect. The question: “Do I want to kill Oh Cho-rim, or not?”
She replies, “You don’t want to kill her.” He counters, “No, I do want to kill her. Very much.”
Yeom doesn’t betray a single emotion as he informs her that she’s lost three hours, waiting until he leaves to show her worry.
As the clock ticks down, the detective team is still grasping at straws for their way into Jae-hee’s secret lair. Cho-rim writes an email to Yeom, calling her unni as she promises that they’ll meet again. Then she receives a text from Jae-hee approving her swap proposal, instructing her to meet him tomorrow morning.
She takes the message to the team, which is a relief since I’d feared she’d do the stupid thing and sacrifice herself alone. Switching the women gives the detectives a window during which to identify the entrance to the secret room, and they devise the following plan: They’ll mark Jae-hee with a scent, which will guide Cho-rim to the lair. He’ll leave the secret room to make his rendezvous with her, but Cho-rim will be a no-show. When Jae-hee gives up and returns home, Cho-rim can track the scent. Uh, I hope they’re accounting for a few of those glaring holes I see in that plan…
Yeom remains steely in the face of impending death, and even offers Jae-hee three more hours of her life, in exchange for three answers. Why did he kill the doctor? Where is Joo Ma-ri’s diary? And why does he mark his victims with a barcode?
Jae-hee answers that the doctor found out too much, and the diary’s in the living room. As for the barcodes: “After they’ve written their autobiographies for me, they become empty shells. They’re merely book covers.” She takes that further and guesses that it has to do with him not recognizing their faces, though he doesn’t answer. And now she’s got only eighteen hours left to live.
Day 6. Following Jae-hee’s rendezvous instructions, Cho-rim arrives at the subway station and finds a locker, which contains a phone. Calling her on it, Jae-hee guides her through several steps to ensure that she’s not trying to trick him or being followed by police. (She lies and says she isn’t, but he’s not the kind of guy to take her at her word on that.)
Alarmed to hear that Yeom’s death time has been moved up, Cho-rim runs to the next location to await further instructions. Once there, Jae-hee calls to direct her to a different location, and Cho-rim runs again, and this time we see that Jae-hee is watching from a parked car nearby. He tells her to take the box he’s left there, and breathe in the drugged cloth.
Cho-rim opens the box, and recognizes the scent—it had been on Baek-kyung’s body. She hesitates, but Jae-hee presses her to do it before he rescinds the deal. She decides to proceed and breathes in the cloth, which sends her slumping over within seconds. Mu-gak and the detectives have no choice but to remain put and watch.
Jae-hee comes forward to collect her, and Mu-gak gives Ki and Yeh the order to move. They break into Jae-hee’s car and slip a tracker under the dashboard, then douse the gas pedal and floor mat with a clear liquid.
Just as Jae-hee gets to Cho-rim, a jogger runs up in concern, and Jae-hee ducks his head to hide his face. Oh, it’s Kang’s cop nemesis! That’s sweet, he poses as a concerned Samaritan and insists on calling emergency services. Then he yells loudly for help, drawing passersby to the scene and forcing Jae-hee to withdraw. Okay, this was a decent plan.
Jae-hee drives off empty-handed, checking his mirrors for followers, and arrives at what looks like an unfinished construction site. Underneath a tarp is a door leading to a basement, and he walks a fair distance down a long series of tunnels and hallways. A fingerprint gains him access to a door, which swings open on Yeom’s cell.
Jae-hee tells her that Cho-rim’s a good friend, inhaling anesthesia willingly in an effort to save her friend’s life. But the plan was interrupted and now, Yeom has two and a half hours left to live…
Cho-rim is rushed to the hospital, Mu-gak holding her hand anxiously all the way. She comes to mid-ride and rejoins the team, assuring them she’s all right. The team turns its attention to the GPS tracker, which pinpoints the car’s location a short distance away from Jae-hee’s house. Mu-gak shows her the liquid they spilled in the car, which has no detectable odor but is visible to her eyes.
T-minus two hours. They arrive in the construction yard, and Cho-rim can see the footprint-scents on the ground… until it starts to rain. Curses. Smell faster!
In a flash, her hope turns to desperation. She refuses to give up, and continues to look even though all the traces are gone.
Jae-hee says that Yeom’s autobiography has been the shortest of anyone’s, and offers her the chance to extend her life by writing more. She replies that she’s not a novelist, and had difficulty inventing things to write, taking things from movies and making them sound realistic. He looks honestly stunned at that, saying that the others all wrote the truth before dying.
She laughs, and asks him if one of his earlier victims wrote that she had an affair and abandoned her child. “Things that we police know about a person just by looking at a casefile—why don’t you realize even as you kill them?”
Jae-hee looks so pitiful as that I almost feel sorry for him, except for that whole part where he murdered a bunch of people I guess. He looks like a little child as he tells her not to lie, insisting that he did have their lives before killing them. “Their lives that nobody knew—I read them, felt them, and took them as my life!”
Yeom snaps that this is a losing game for him, and he knows it. He says she’ll feel differently in two hours, and prints off a barcode to affix to her book. She asks if he’ll cut the barcode into her wrist after he’s done, and when he confirms, she bursts into laughter. “Of everything I’ve seen in the world, that’s the most childish,” she says.
Jae-hee tells her it’s no use trying to rattle him. Yeom says that people have an instinct to talk, and that’s why she feels compelled to tell him that he’s low-rent and silly.
I enjoy that I know both of them have all these conflicting emotions going on underneath the surface—we’ve seen the hints of them—but they’re both supremely cool and collected on the surface, not willing to give an inch to the other side.
One hour to go. Stymied by the rain, the detective team suggests a brainstorming session to gather their wits. They go to a nearby cafe, wondering if they can invent pretexts for storming the house. They’re dejected and desperate, and that’s when Mu-gak takes notice of the exchange between the cafe owner and her granddaughter, with the little girl showing her a drawing in invisible ink, made visible by darker ink. What if they do the same with the rain-washed smell?
Jae-hee prepares his scalpels, noting that Yeom is the first victim to watch him till the end. She says she’s occasionally thought of her death, wanting to “forget and forgive everything” before leaving. But not anymore, since she has no desire to forgive Jae-hee—”not for what you’ve done to me, but what you’ve done to humanity.”
Thirty minutes. The team busily scatters soil on the ground, which… somehow makes Jae-hee’s scent more visible? I don’t know why? Eh, let’s go with it, only two episodes left! She directs the scattering in the direction of the trail, and bit by bit, the wet ground is covered and the scent starts to peer through the dry layer. I’m sure it’s all very scientific.
The scent ends at the tarp, and moving it aside reveals the trapdoor. Bingo.
Mu-gak directs the detectives and asks Cho-rim to stay away while he goes in.
Jae-hee explains how he will kill Yeom, beginning with the gas that will fill the chamber, rendering her unable to breathe. It’ll make her death painless, and then he’ll carve the barcode on her wrist and it’ll all be over. He presses a button, and gas starts to fill the cell.
Mu-gak and Detective Yeh make they way through the underground tunnels.
Yeom falls, unconscious.
The detectives burst into the room, and Jae-hee’s eyes widen in surprise. Holding their breaths, they run to check on Yeom, and then Mu-gak raises his gun to the glass between him and Jae-hee.
Jae-hee actually leans forward, pressing his forehead to the glass.
COMMENTS
It was an interesting exercise to drop in on a show I haven’t been recapping, because it highlights how there’s a disconnect between watching a show purely recreationally and watching it with enough attention to recap its details in somewhat coherent fashion. Sometimes the experience of watching a show is enhanced by the recapping process, and sometimes it’s the opposite. Girl Who Sees Smells strikes me as the latter case, because I have been completely content while watching the episodes passively, finding it cute and easy to follow with a sweet couple and an interesting, if simplistic, mystery plot. But paying attention to all the details and making sure the facts align properly sort of shines a light on where it falters, since I can’t gloss over those flaws as readily.
Even so, I still like the show, even if the detectives can sometimes be criminally stupid, the plot repeats itself, and the mystery lacks mystery. (Proving that a sense of heart and cuteness can really make up for plot missteps.) I find it an interesting choice to reveal the culprit’s identity relatively early on (moreover, to the cop team), and focus the show’s efforts on catching him. It reminds me of Gap-dong in that regard, and makes it less a crime mystery and more of a psychological thriller. Since Namgoong Min is knocking it out of the park as the unrepentant killer, I’m perfectly fine going in this direction, especially with this episode matching him so well with the icily composed Yeom Mi. Was she badass, or was she badass?
More than her nerves of steel, I was impressed with seeing the traces of fear in between sparring bouts with the killer, because it’s much more courageous to be so frank and disdainful when you’re actually afraid of death. It’s less of a feat if she were impervious to fear, or had some kind of belief that she was safe; I liked that she felt weakness, but refused to give Jae-hee the satisfaction of showing it. And he, likewise, was just as unwilling to betray that she’d rattled him, and it makes it all the more satisfying since now we know he does care, and that he’s capable of feeling misgivings.
The abuse and trauma line caught my attention because it’s the first time we’ve approached the Barcode Murders from the murderer’s perspective. We’ve seen glimpses of Jae-hee’s thought process in recent episodes, and I do believe the writing has had his backstory mapped out in advance, but we haven’t really considered his motivations beyond the surface level yet. (And how nice would it have been to get this kind of explanation earlier? Kill Me, Heal Me is one example of abuse trauma being explored with some depth, and Jae-hee’s enough of a fascinating character that I’d have liked the time to spend on his backstory.)
I’m rather sorry that the recent episodes have relegated Mu-gak to the backseat, which partly seems inevitable since he’s not the twisted psycho of our story, but is also a waste of an interesting hero. Sure, he’s less complex than the sociopathic killer, but he’s also got things going on, what with his insensibility to feeling, his pursuit of vengeance, his latent skills in gag comedy. I’m tired of seeing him barge in on Jae-hee (again and again) and accusing him of the same thing every time, and wish our story could move on already.
I think it’s mostly a flaw of pacing, not that the writer doesn’t know where this is going at all. I actually think the writing has been heading in a pre-determined direction all along; the plot doesn’t feel like one that’s being whipped up on the fly. It’s just once we hit the latter half of the show, it suddenly felt like there was more screentime than there was remaining story, and that resulted in beats repeating themselves to fill up time, in order to arrive at the finale at the right moment.
On the upside: We’re now at finale week, so let’s hope that we can wrap up on a high note! Really, all I want is a wrap-up to the killings (a cursory one would be fine), some funny team bonding moments, a resolution of Mu-gak’s loss of sensation, and a sweet romantic epilogue. With lots of skinship, though that probably goes without saying. And kisses. Maybe even a wig or two.
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1 Ivoire
May 16, 2015 at 2:43 PM
Thank you for the recap, JB. I liked this ep. I really liked what we learned about JH, and the things he admitted to Let. Yeom, and how easily he admitted them to her. Maybe it was because he thought she would be dying soon anyway.
I also loved how emotional MG got, when CR confessed to wanting to die, because she felt so guilty to know that Let. Yeom was trapped in JH's house. And so smart of Let. Yeom to put the parfume on her hand, and then have herself touch JH, so he would have her scent. That was smart too.
And then, in some ways, I felt that this ep. was a filler. Maybe it was the fact that for the whole ep. Let. Yeom was at JH's house, and the two detectives did not act in a smart way.
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growingbeautifully
May 16, 2015 at 7:26 PM
Hi Ivoire
Has your move been completed yet? Good to see you back with us.
What I liked are similar to what you said too.
I like that Yeom and JH had those interesting exchanges and that she was trying to profile him, so that finally we are getting the answers to our questions since episode 1. I agree with JB too however, that more hints, clues and some backstory would have been great to flesh out our JH, and not only him but Yeom as well, as they really are also the main players of this show. Even the drama poster shows them with MG and CR, so it's a pity that in the time filler bits of the show,... the opportunity to show us more of JH's and Yeom's past was not seized.
I too liked that not only is JH shown to be smart, but that finally (since a couple of episodes) Yeom who has been passionate about this case, is shown to have the brains too. (Only it is unfortunate she has not been given much to do). If her words spoken to JH were calculated to bother and upset him, then I feel she has done a good job. I've felt that it was too one-sided for too long... dismay on JH's part will sort of balance it out with all the dismay felt by the police in 13 episodes!!!
Were there just 2-3 scenes of MG and CR together ie just the 2 of them? I have to re-watch to count LOL! Yes, I felt that Yoo Chun did the emotional scene (of being at a loss on what to say next to his beloved who was prepared to sacrifice herself) very well. That hug was just right and the expression on his face was on point! I think I teared up too!
I hope the last 2 episodes will show us MG regaining most of his senses, CR joining in more of the investigation...maybe becoming a special auxiliary member of unni Yeom's team and that they all can move to Jejudo where they can relax in their old home town and visit the aquarium where MG first worked. :)
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 10:33 AM
@Ivoire @Gb
"I also loved how emotional MG got, when CR confessed to wanting to die, because she felt so guilty to know that Let. Yeom was trapped in JH’s house."
"Yes, I felt that Yoo Chun did the emotional scene (of being at a loss on what to say next to his beloved who was prepared to sacrifice herself) very well. That hug was just right and the expression on his face was on point! I think I teared up too!
TT_TT so I'm not alone. Neither over nor under-acting, just enough. Love this scene.
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2 tweetpandora
May 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM
Great to have your take on this JB, I have been away and missed a lot of episodes and was unsure whether to continue watching it. Me thinks I might just do!
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3 omg ahhahhahaa
May 16, 2015 at 2:49 PM
"I'm sure it's very scientific"HAHAHHAAHAHAAH
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Jon G.
May 16, 2015 at 4:14 PM
It actually is. Let me explain:
Cho-rim really sees smells, she doesn't have synæsthesia. That means that somehow the molecules that carry smell (let's call them odour molecules) emit photons that are recognisable by Cho-rim's eye(s) and are translated into nifty icons by her brain.
How is that possible?
Well, it could be reflection of light, of course. The photons of a light source, for example the sun, interact with the electron hull of the atoms of an odour molecule. A reflected photon then gets detected by Cho-rim's eye and if enough photons get detected, a nerve impulse is sent to the brain.
But that's not the explanation, as Cho-rim can also see smells in the dark, e.g. no reflection of externally sourced photons possible.
We need a different source here. The molecules DO emit photons on their own, even in the dark, but not nearly enough for a sensor the size of a human eye several meters away to detect them.
A plausible explanation could be that the odour molecules emit photons (or maybe other elementary particles, but lets assume photons here) when they are stimulated by an artificial beam of photons (in a spectrum not visible to the human eye). This beam is originated in Cho-rim's "monster" eye, and that explains the weird colouring of the iris that wouldn't make any sense if the eye would only be used as a sensor (which is located on the retina, not the iris).
(The whole system is similar to the way bats see in the dark, only with electromagnetic waves instead of sound waves.)
Now why doesn't this process work when it is raining?
The odour molecules are very small. A typical molecule would be about 0.000001 mm in diameter. They are also very light, that's why they float in the air.
Rain has two major effects on the molecules: It increases the humidity to almost 100% and it washes the molecules out of the air. Both effects would render a sensory system as described above pretty much useless.
Even after the rain stops, the humidity and the wet surface would stop molecules from being air-borne and visible by Cho-rim's system.
However, if you use some water-absorbing material and wait for the rain to stop, the local humidity near the ground would drop to acceptable levels and odour molecules would start to evaporate into the air, where they become visible to Cho-rim's system.
It's actually pretty simple.
No, seriously, I never thought I would ever say that:
This writer is a genius!
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growingbeautifully
May 16, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Thanks for this information Jon G.
My question is, why is it that the water does not wash away the smells entirely ie odour molecules and all?... At least the molecules will be displaced so that the trail would no longer be a trail, so to speak?
In the case of dogs' sniffing ability, I only know vaguely that they cannot smelll their prey once the latter have entered a stream or river... and therefore will lose the trail. Do you have any scientific knowledge on whether they too would be able to pick up the trail if the water was less and evaporated?
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lc
May 16, 2015 at 8:19 PM
@ GB,
I don't think the water will wash away the smell, it will just make the source matter ie.the deodorant more diffused and prevents it from rising above ground for Cho Rim to smell.
On dogs not being able to track scents over water, my take is that the scent molecules are not only diffused in the water, but are carried away by the flowing water. That's a totally different matter from Cho Rim's case since the source of her scent stays on the ground.
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 1:10 AM
Thank you @lc, yes it seems that the molecules get 'buried' in the humidity but are not lost and can 'resurrect' when water evaporates.
Pity MG couldn't borrow a dog's nose to augment CR's sight! LOL! That would have ended the episode before Yeom got gassed. :)
Lindy
May 16, 2015 at 8:33 PM
I watched an episode of Mythbusters (I think but it might have been another, similar show) in which they tried to elude a tracker dog by trying various techniques including wading through deep water and using confusing scents. They were busted every single time although in a couple of cases the dog was temporarily confused. The conclusion was that water didn't cause the dog to lose the scent of its prey or even slow it down and you really don't want a tracker dog on your tail while escaping. The only thing that delayed the dog was a confusing urban environment with lots of conflicting scents. The dog eventually found its prey but it took a while.
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM
@Lindy12
Thanks very much for this. I did always wonder how far water helped to kill scent. It's good to know that dogs, especially tracker ones will have the upper hand over criminals. :)
bean
May 16, 2015 at 9:30 PM
whoa! hey thanks for the explanation-- its really cool to have it written out easily like this c:
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susan
May 16, 2015 at 10:23 PM
@JonG
:-) I like you! Way to rock out that nerdiness!!
Okay, let's say that the eye is a laser or a diffuse electromagnetic radiation emitter in some, or many, non-visual portions of the EM spectrum (or else her eyes would appear to us normal humans as 'glowing in the dark.')
You mentioned that the weird eye-coloring would be accounted for by this property. I'm really curious about your logic here. Can you walk me though it?
:-) Am really enjoying this thread!
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 1:06 AM
Hi Again Susan
Read ya in Ep 13 that you said you're "...having an interesting time comparing that drama [Falling for Innocence] to this one – the tone of both of these dramas / romcoms is very different but the underlying elements are quite similar – both have a central dramatic conflict with a larger than life villain and a romantic relationship with both comedy and emotional undertones."
Although I'm not watching Falling for Innocence, I'd be interested to read how you are comparing that drama to this one. I may be inspired to pick it up as well. :)
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susan
May 17, 2015 at 8:10 AM
Hello,
I'm happy to compare TGWSS to Falling for Innocence (Falling for Soon Jung).
As a quick overview:
*Both have lovely and compelling romances with a quirky and amusing lead man with two personalities he adopts depending on the circumstances.
*Both have a central dramatic conflict that creates both the opportunity for and tension within the romance.
*This dramatic conflict for both is a fully fledged story that could stand on its own.
*However, again for both, the existence of the romance coupled with the effects it has on the behaviors of the two romantic leads has the development of significantly heightening the dramatic conflict and throwing it off kilter.
*Both have a cardboard villain.
*Where they differ is tone. FFI is emotionally serious with moments of levity. TGWSS is emotionally light with moments of heft.
The two interesting things for me in comparing these dramas are the choices the 2nd leads made for their villains and looking at the choices the director made. Or, from the point of view of a producer, the choice of director.
Let me post again on both …. I don’t want this to run too long.
susan
May 17, 2015 at 8:11 AM
I began thinking about how tone is really affecting TGWSS.
One of the most difficult things to do is to hire a writer for a franchise (equivalent to a director when there are books or on-line content) or a director for moving image (in this case, a TV drama). The reason for this is tone or voice. Let me explain.
Projects are often very well developed with a clear tonal concept. This would look like a story bible for all characters and locations, a detailed outline of plotting, and a script - or some part of a script for Korean dramas. All of this exists before a director (and everyone else from the set-designer to cinematographer) is hired. The director’s job is to take that well developed project and tonal concept and translate it into a coherent story told through moving image and sound.
The director needs to match the tonal concept for all the pre-developed elements to come together. You’d be surprised, but finding just the right voice for a director or a director with range is every bit as challenging as finding just the right actor for a role or an actor with real range.
There’s a tonal mismatch in TGWSS.
The tone for the romance is perfect. The tone for the dramatic elements doesn’t work bc it’s neither serious enough nor comedic enough. It’s eliding between the two. And the audience (as evinced here on this blog) isn’t buying it. There are reasons for this - how can a story about a serial killer be comedic? How can we get the script to support a more serious tone for the dramatic elements? In fact, this might be the reason for the variation in writing style - while the rom/com and general dialogue elements are very good, the exposition that accompanies many of the dramatic scenes is flat and boring. I’m guessing that someone is tweaking the writer’s script unsuccessfully. But, it may come down to a director’s dilemma - ‘how can marry the dramatic tone to the rom/com tone and have the audience buy both?’.
My thought is that serial killing as a background for a rom/com is a bit too much!
growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:57 AM
Thanks Susan for taking the time to give us that insight into the whys of what is working or not working in this show, and for your comparison between the 2 dramas. It has really opened my eyes to what to look for and how to understand some of the things that I'm bothered about and wondering about.
I can understand what you said previously about being critical. It must be hard to be a producer and to watch productions whose weaknesses are obvious to you. However having your experience and understanding of what goes into the work, gives so much more weight to one's analysis. It's no longer based on just a feeling that something is not right, but knowing what the problem is.
Having read what you've shared on how a good match up is so important and realizing the vast number of people and components that must come together to make a show, I wonder that there can be so many shows running concurrently and one after another so quickly, and can understand that good quality in show making is really something to be appreciated highly!
Much thanks again, Susan! I really appreciate this. :)
susan
May 17, 2015 at 9:06 AM
About the villains:
The villains in both are a little too cardboard for my taste. It’s hard to play a compelling baddie. And neither actor seems to be able to do it.
*In the case of Namgung Min, that’s to be expected as he plays the exact same character in every drama he’s in. It’s pretty much on the casting director for expecting that it would be any different this time around. That said, the serial killer needs to fit in a romcom, so perhaps the CD was thinking - ‘hey this guy will be unexpected and he fits in a romcom, and the killer shouldn’t actually be too scary, so maybe this will work?’ :-) Again, it’s pretty hard to have serial killing as the background for a romcom!
*As for Yoon Hyun-Min, I’m less familiar with his performances. My guess is that he’s a super nice guy in real life who’s never been ashamed and vengeful enough to be damaged by it and can’t really relate to someone who has. (Shame of his origins in life and revenge against both the people who belittled him and the man who coincidentally prevents the accomplishment of his revenge against them are the driving forces for his character.) If an actor can’t empathize or, at the very least, find pity for his character, then his performance won’t be nuanced enough to be interesting. If I can only imagine what someone would do, then my performance would just be walking though the motions. If I can imagine what someone might feel then, while I am walking through those motions, the audience will see my internal process and either pity or revile me - and that’s what makes for a compelling performance. (See Kang Dong-won, master of embodying both villains and nice guys with nuanced empathy. I can only imagine what he’s gone through in life to be such a good actor!)
susan
May 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM
@growingbeautifully
You're very welcome!
susan
May 17, 2015 at 9:21 AM
And the goodies:
On the other hand, the leading men in both TGWSS and FFI are sublime! Totally different actors, both with super-fantastic access to their emotions and real range. What is impressive is that both characters have these dual personalities.
*In the case of FFI, Jung Kyoung-Ho’s character changes from a complete a**hole to a really caring guy - and he’s really likable and relatable as both! What is amazing is to see how different his personality becomes while, all the while, believing that this is one person. How does he maintain the integrity of a single character whilst transitioning his personality? So. Very. Good!
*In the case of TGWSS, Park Yoo-Chun’s character is a consistently nice and teasing guy who adopts a stiff demeanor only at the police station. (Note how his character with his sister is the same as with his girlfriend.) This provides an amazingly good comedic foil. Frankly, I’m now trying to think of how we can write a character for him into one of our projects.
As for the women,
*The female lead in FII, Kim So-Yeon, is very strong. Which she pretty much has to be as her character is written so badly. All of the emotional development happens for the male lead. And, although she goes through so much, there’s no dialogue to accompany her inner turmoil. Such a waste. It means that we have to read her character though her eyes and body language. The fact that we can is a huge testament to her acting skills.
*In a similar fashion, Yoon Jin-Seo, as the second female lead in TGWSS, also turns out a really solid performance with an underdeveloped character. She’s such a good actress. Which is born out by her very long film resume.
growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Susan,
I've read all you wrote with great interest.
What is it you plan to do when you say, "...I’m now trying to think of how we can write a character for him into one of our projects." Do you mean you wish to have Park Yoo Chun the actor in a project and are trying to create a character suitable for him?
I'm thinking, as you have not mentioned her, that Shin Se Kyung lacks the range that Park Yoo Chun has, but that she is thoroughly enjoyable here and is holding her own.
WRT the villain, I've only seen Nam Goong Min in My Secret Hotel and bits of We Got Married. It's certainly true that in those shows, he appears just the same as in this one. I was under the impression though, that he was playing the inscrutable, mild villain very well ie it totally matched his style! LOL!
Kudos to all drama makers who manage to create a good show despite the short time given! It's more a wonder than something to be expected, that we have as many good shows as we do, when we consider the number of factors that can go wrong and in the little time that is given. Yup, I do appreciate shows a lot more and I'm so grateful to you for giving your insightful take on this show. Read ya again!! :)
Lindy
May 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM
Namgoong Min was the lead in a rom-com called Unemployed Romance which ran in 2013. He's very funny in it with a real flair for comedy. He has great timing and the ability to deliver a line in a perfectly deadpan yet amusing fashion. I haven't seem him in too many other roles but he should definitely do more comedy.
susan
May 17, 2015 at 1:23 PM
@GrowingBeautifully
Awwww, you're such a sweetie!
Shin Se Kyung is very cute. Her role isn't particularly demanding and she hasn't eked out a comedic tic the way Park Yoo Chun has, so it's hard to say much.
**"What is it you plan to do when you say, “…I’m now trying to think of how we can write a character for him into one of our projects.” Do you mean you wish to have Park Yoo Chun the actor in a project and are trying to create a character suitable for him?"
Absolutely! I have a really large international project right now and I'm thinking about who might be nice once we get to moving image. Although it won't get there for several years.
growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM
Thanks @Lindy12
His calm deadpan demeanor is one of the best for comedy. One just does not know if he is serious or not!! And then he gives that winning smile.... :)
growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 5:17 PM
@ Susan
Woah! That's interesting. Do please return and tell us how your project pans out. Especially since you're thinking of casting actors from around the world, ... he/she might just be someone I'm familiar with!
Several years, you say? That's patience and commitment!!! As long as DB is here, I'll be camping out somewhere or other and I will look out for you. :)
foxvanilla
May 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM
lol that was pretty insightful !
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Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 4:26 AM
I really, really like your explanation, Jon G!
I just thought this whole seeing-scent thing was illogical! To think I was a newbie chemist myself a few years ago! Clearly science is not for me and I made the switch to engineering. LOL.
I like your take on molecules absorbing energy and emitting photons. And you even researched on the size odour molecules, to those moisture absorbing materials!
I thought the production team could have done more to show other scents though. Where are the scents of rain?! The ground, the rubbish, everything. They had only show it the first time Cho-rim could see scents tho.
I feel like contributing more to it (or if I can, also challenging you.. Lol), but nevermind, think I'll check out another drama first. HA...
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bean
May 17, 2015 at 6:09 PM
the ground and rubbish and other things sure, but rain doesn't have a smell~
i figured that mostly when we're shown the smells that chorim sees, theyre usually ones she is focusing on, so we only see the relevant ones. like. if you put an object close to you and focus on it, everything else in your field of vision blurs and you see the object more clearly. maybe my example is hard t understand, but thats sort of how ive been thinking of it
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bjharm
May 17, 2015 at 7:37 AM
lol a drama where the cops are looking for a serect entrance and totally take no notice of the huge tarpaulin sitting in plain sight...I am taking the writer a genius as a very tongue in cheek end statement.
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Jon G.
May 17, 2015 at 7:57 AM
"lol a drama where the cops are looking for a serect entrance and totally take no notice of the huge tarpaulin sitting in plain sight"
Well, give them a break. Unless they followed the direction of the footprints in a straight line until they hit the first obstacle a few meters a way, how would they even know in which direction to search? I fully understand that they had no other option but standing in the rain for 1.5 hours.
"I am taking the writer a genius as a very tongue in cheek end statement."
You really think so?
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bleef
May 17, 2015 at 7:38 AM
Actually, I would have preferred it if they had found the secret opening by looking around - it would have tied in very nicely to Mu Gak's earlier comment (when Cho Rim lost her hairclip and it started raining) about how she can use her eyes AND smell-seeing abilities to sniff out things!
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 8:29 AM
Exactly! I was just applauding Mu-gak not too long ago, for saying that to Cho-rim in the previous episode and come this episode, eh? Is this the same Mu-gak that we know? lol
I'm starting to believe the theory of this show having two different writers present, a main and an assistant. How else can we explain this?
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 4:46 PM
Hi @ Neutral
Yes, I'm beginning to believe that there is more than one person stirring this pot and perhaps what one person puts in the other person takes out, or both are throwing in ingredients that they think will work but the combination of ingredients did not bring forth the flavor that was aimed for.
I must give credit to @ Susan who also mentions this... that there may be two writers or another person editing and changing what is written along the way.
But we are assured that the ending has been planned and that it will be a happy one. What I (we?) want is the sweetest ending with our police team family, (the return of Daddy Oh will be nice) and OTP being adorkable together. :)
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Neutral
May 19, 2015 at 10:40 PM
@Gb
"Yes, I’m beginning to believe that there is more than one person stirring this pot and perhaps what one person puts in the other person takes out, or both are throwing in ingredients that they think will work but the combination of ingredients did not bring forth the flavor that was aimed for."
Ikr? Well, sometimes it does work out well, at times it just doesn't. One minute I'm like this writer is a genius and then the next minute eh? Not so lol.
But regardless, my like for this show overpowers my unlike, so to me, overall it's a good show! :D
4 kiwichan
May 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM
Hiiiiii Javabeans!!!
okay, I was shocked! glad that u're enjoying this & I'm with you, still enjoy this series to bits! Thank you so much for the recap! *bows*
eventho I was screaming like hell on this episode haha coz I want them to move faster & I'm worried about Yeom Mi & JH will escape again but I think they're all will safe! I satisfied with the explanation of JH's motives and the way he creates those barcodes, I think it's interesting! and I always..always love Yoochun's crying scene! kudos to all cast, they all did a great job here!
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5 Emmy
May 16, 2015 at 2:54 PM
Yoon Jin-Seo is an amazing actress. I feel like she hasn't revealed her potential in the series until this episode, because Lieutenant Yeom didn't really get much chance to shine until now. She and Namgoong Min also have crackling antagonistic chemistry.
That said, why is she playing a second lead? I googled her yesterday and she seems to be really established, especially in the movie world!
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poliwag
May 16, 2015 at 4:58 PM
I feel that sometimes, people like to take up less meaty roles? Joo Sangwook is an A-grade actor, but I only knew him from the beginning as the second lead of 'Good Doctor'. That's my take on the issue, though :o
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Sajen
May 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM
Have you seen Twelve Men in a Year? She's wonderful in that and as an added bonus Go Joon-hee plays her friend.
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6 aprilrain
May 16, 2015 at 3:24 PM
i wish there is mugak's character in person in real life....hes being so sweet, protective and caring after his love confession, really a boyfriend material...and cho rim-shi, I'm waiting for you to stop call him officer choi. its time for you to be lovey dovey with him please
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Neutral
May 19, 2015 at 11:13 PM
@aprilrain
I know! @Ivoire and I, we are trying to find a way to buy ourselves some Mugaks haha.
A boy who always put his girl's interests before his own is love, and it doesn't help that he's so adorably good-looking.
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7 Calzeralzer
May 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM
I liked this episode overall. Lieutenant Yeon and Kwon Jae Hee's interactions were the best part for me. It's really interesting to see her get into his head but she is never able to get him to crack. Also when Moo Gak cried I lost it, I really like his character and I was really glad for this moment.
I have been watching this show very passively so I haven't had any big issues with the plot holes or how the detectives are pretty dense. But I think I actually started yelling at the screen when the detectives decided to pack it up and "re-group" when it started raining and Cho Rim couldn't see the smell. Lietuenant Yeon only had a limited amount of time to live and they decided to leave and not look under anything (especially the giant tarp) or call in dogs. I found it funny and slightly frustrating, but I guess it lead to a more exciting finish to the episode.
Thanks for the recap!!
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dramamad
May 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM
At this point I was yelling at the screen saying 'gps tracker has brought you so far. Why don't you do some good old fashioned detecting and LOOK AROUND YOU' for god's sake!!!!
Doesn't take away one bit from the fact that I can't wait to watch the finale!
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susan
May 16, 2015 at 10:25 PM
Amen!
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8 samsooki
May 16, 2015 at 4:22 PM
I like the drama, and because I like the drama, I pretty overlook everything.
I am not saying this is a good drama, but I just like it and try not to think too hard.
Call me Hazel but sometimes being Hazel is okay.
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Petmink
June 13, 2015 at 6:54 PM
Hazel!
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9 fishfingers_fb
May 16, 2015 at 4:43 PM
The team busily scatters soil on the ground, which… somehow makes Jae-hee’s scent more visible? I don’t know why?
I know right! THAT'S NOT SCIENCE. I kept waiting for the lightbulb moment where someone would be all, 'hey guys, why don't we LOOK for it?' I mean, if the thing last episode with the hairclip in the rain was foreshadowing, you'd think it would be a given to solve things the obvius, low-tech way.
I do still enjoy the show, but so many things about it frustrate me. Not least Cho-rim's wet-dog hair which I just always want to push out of her face and tie back argh
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AJK
May 16, 2015 at 8:23 PM
EXACTLY the same thought I had watching them standing around helplessly in the rain. Only the dynamic between the Lt. and our villain saved this episode for me. Usually if I like the OTP as much as I do here, I slide over the plot holes but this time ...
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Lindy
May 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM
Yeah right and let's go to a cafe and have coffee instead of calling in a search team because, hey, it's wet. Your team leader is scheduled to die in an hour, guys. A little urgency in this situation might be in order.
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10 poliwag
May 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM
Did I love Yeom and Jaehee crossing swords, or did I /love/ Yeom and Jaehee crossing swords. I really did like them crossing swords before this, the way they poked around each other in attempts to rattle the other under their calm, collected surface and this episode really delivered. Yeom's sass, coupled with Jaehee's frantic-below-the-surface blocking and his own tricks really made up for episode 11 :D
I agree that Mugak's recklessness in repeating something he knows is true but can't prove really does get old (seriously? hurling a trash can at Jaehee in public?) and that it's just rehashing the thing over and over. At the very least, the writer does call back to previous episodes and scenarios- for example, Chorim being finally able to recognise the stench on Baekkyung's coat as the anaethesia, as well as the recognition of the other victims from Yeom's profiling as 'not just another book'.
Like I said again, I would hate for the writer to employ a 'break the cutie' troupe with 2 episodes to go and either kill or leave Yeom in a coma. Please, writer-nim, don't do it!!
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11 Sajen
May 16, 2015 at 5:13 PM
"One hour to go. Stymied by the rain, the detective team suggests a brainstorming session to gather their wits. They go to a nearby cafe, wondering if they can invent pretexts for storming the house. They’re dejected and desperate, and that’s when Mu-gak takes notice of the exchange between the cafe owner and her granddaughter, with the little girl showing her a drawing in invisible ink, made visible by darker ink. What if they do the same with the rain-washed smell? "
I didn't get when I was watching it, and still don't, why they just gave up when it started raining. So you can't follow the smells anymore, keep going in the direction you were headed and look for suspicious things, it's what I would have done.
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dkaoru
May 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM
yeah I don't understand why they don't just search the old-fashioned way. During that scene I was just really annoyed; the entrance wasn't that far away, it wasn't that hidden, if they had just looked the old-fashioned way, they would have found it faster. The whole set up is so they can found a way around Cho rim inability to see smell in the rain. It's frustrating because it doesnt really make sense!
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12 dkaoru
May 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM
I actually really didn't like lt Yeom in this episode, even though there are a few moments where I really admire her guts in standing up to Chef. What I didn't like:
1) She is smart enough to switch with Cho Rim because Chef won't recognize her, but she only told Mu-gak, not the rest of the team. She also strangely was not smart enough to put a tracker on herself. I mean, it's not like this is a new case for her. She has been on this case for years and she knows the killer is smart enough to elude the police for years (I think this is actually caused by police stupidity), they never figured out where he kept his victims for 6 days. So wouldn't it make sense to put on a tracker?!!
2) Did she mean to actually let Chef kill her? Because I understand she wanted to know what happened to the victim during those 6 days under captivity, but is it necessary to actually go through with the process of killing without putting up much of a fight? There were scenes where they were sitting together calmly in the room. She can see where/which door he came in, she is a trained police officer, why didn't she try to take him down? I feel she could have escaped on her own if she really wanted to. Unless the anesthesia gave her amnesia and she forgot that she is a trained police officer.
3) the profiling - I cringed during these scenes. I understand it's supposed to showcase her ability to profile the killer and get under his skin, but i don't know the delivery seems off to me.
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13 growingbeautifully
May 16, 2015 at 6:59 PM
Thanks for a good recap JB and glad to know that you're enjoying the show while at the same time, noticing the weaknesses in execution.... and that like many of us, that you were able to gloss over them while just watching as a viewer.
That's why I say kudos to all who recap, who have to think extra hard and re-examine scenes to gather the most accurate take that they can on what's happening. And to commit to doing this while trying to enjoy each show.
I believe I actually felt more suspense reading the recap than I did while watching the show! LOL! even though I already knew how this episode would end.
A comment on JH's inexplicable mistake. He himself admitted that he should have chosen a more quiet or private place to get CR. Having your victim collapse in the bright of morning at a park of joggers and trying to carry her off in public makes our meticulous JH look like he's losing his super planning faculties. Perhaps the talks with Yeom have rattled him enough to affect his thought processes! LOL!
I still feel it was pretty risky for CR to be act as bait, because JH could have got her to pass out in some private spot and, then how would MG have been able to see her... let alone how would our dear Kang's nemesis police friend have any excuse to come jogging into a private place to find a lady that had fainted.
Still it was good that they did not leave CR to manage entirely on her own, so to speak.
Now that the gas has filled the room where Yeom is and where MG and Yeh have entered... I'm shouting... get out of there!!! You want to all be anaesthetized???? MG's falling asleep in Episode 1 just as he had apprehended the robber came to mind!! Foreshadowing??? Just as you have JH in your sights... MG don't lose consciousness now!!!!! ARGGHH!
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14 dkaoru
May 16, 2015 at 6:59 PM
okay, I shall stop ranting about what I didn't like. There are a few things that confuse me:
1) Chef has been kidnapping victims and putting them in the room for 6 days. Is there a bathroom in that thing? I don't see toilet or shower. How does the victim maintain their un-rumpled appearance for 6 days?
2) Since Cho-Rim finds out about who she is, I don't think she has made any comment about her parents. Wouldn't she have wanted to visit their grave? It seems out of character for her.
3) what in the world happened to detective Oh? I know he was taken to a secure location (clearly they take his security more seriously than the security of the actual witness), but now that things are at this stage, wouldn't he have gotten involved?
4) So the 1st victim of the barcode killer is det Oh's wife. How does he know this while the rest of the police doesn't seem to know? Did I miss something?
5) How is Chef choosing his victims? I mean for Dr Baek yung - that was because he knows too much; lt yeom - took the wrong person, meant to kill cho-rim who was witness to previous crime. What about the others? What's his reason to choose Cho-rim's parents? Det Oh's wife? and Joo Mari - is it because he got bored of her?
6) What is in Joo Mari's diary? Did she figure out that he is a serial killer?
7) Chef was really quite friendly to CHo-Rim. Is his interest in her genuine or was he marking her for his next victim? He seemed genuinely hurt that CHo-rim was helping the police.
I hope some of these will be addressed in the finale week. I'm so glad ep 16 is the end. Someone mentioned that this was gonna be 20 ep - that would have been scary.
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niyati
May 17, 2015 at 5:17 AM
About 1) well there is a toilet in there.. It's usually in thecorner ofthe frame. That's a random thing to notice but I did. As for remaining unrumpled that's basically TV/Movie logic.
and 4).. I've been wondering this myself!
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gian
May 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM
2.) She doesn't know about her parents. They chose not to tell her.
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lc
May 17, 2015 at 10:06 AM
3) Detective Oh got a roll call for a new drama. ☺ well at least that's what we say in my family for such cases.
4) it's a plot device - because Detective Oh's daughter died and he and his wife had a divorce, there is no way he could have another daughter unless that's the witness he's keeping close by.
5) There's a mention in ep 2 by Lieutenant Yeom that the victims are all of different age groups and occupations. I think that's how JH chooses his victims - to add diversity to his "collection"...
6) the diaries may not have anything on Jae Hee, but he would still want them because Joo Mari's thoughts and feelings are in them, since this serial killer is all about collecting lives of people he never experienced.
7) This is one question I'm really interested in.
Another question of mine - is Joo Mari really Jae Hee's girlfriend? There's only Jae Hee's word to go by it, and in ep 2 there was one scene where Mugak wondered why nobody knew that Joo Mari had a boyfriend.
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15 Tricia
May 16, 2015 at 7:17 PM
This show ends next week but I'm positive about the ending. I hope MG gets his senses back and have a satifying conclusion with CR. Lt. Yeom may be promoted and the rest of the police, well, I hope they improve. A satisfying ending is all I want, to cover up all the plot holes this drama had.
Does anybody know the drama next to this?.I saw the trailer at the end and it looks like a good makjangfest melodrama.At least for me.
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16 ryanlee
May 16, 2015 at 7:22 PM
I can't wait for ep15. It is so amazing so i loved it. I think TWWSS is one of best drama that i have seen this year.
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17 yi
May 16, 2015 at 7:53 PM
for god sake i watching this for yc & ssk only. Their chemistry so natural. i will never watch any work from this scripwriter anymore. i can't believe they make our main lead so dumb. The story should centre on both OTP but they make our OTp like supporting actor. Thank god we next week finale epsode. poor yc his character dont get any development anymire.
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18 Heartoppaya
May 16, 2015 at 8:23 PM
Thanks for the recap, jb.
I think what they put to make the odorless smell more prominent is manure? I'm not sure, but like the little girl put dark colored water on the paper to make the invisible drawings prominent, they put manure to make the smell peek up. That's my opinion and it definitely looked like crap. Lol
I'm also seeing some holes in their plans, especially with a very smart and intelligent killer to catch, they have to be more.... oblivious, right? The cops are really good for humor and comedy, but as real cops they are doing a very poor job. Seat rests and comfort at a stakeout to catch a KILLER? I mean, how did these two pass the exam? Lieutenant Yeom is the only smart cookie here, plus Moo Gak.
Also, the one-on-one between Yeom and Jae Hee was epic. The battle of wits was a great showdown and I'm waiting for the two actors to do a drama as the OTP because they definitely had the chemistry. It was really interesting and had me biting my nails.
I'm waiting for the final week now with impatience. And may I say, may the best (wo)man win!
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19 ryanlee
May 16, 2015 at 9:03 PM
Good drama to see at the moment. I like loveline of main character. It is very cute and lovely
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tgwss-er
May 19, 2015 at 10:21 PM
The BEST, murim couple is love.
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20 iana
May 16, 2015 at 9:58 PM
I also feel the same, our main lead is like second lead in this ep. the killer looks more powerful than our hero, and yea it such a waste.. but I like this eps! It make liet. YM finally shining and I liiike her acting here. finally we know what the motives in one eps after a long and frustating cat and mouse game. the writer is indeed smart, the plotholes maybe bcs he need to fill screentime or something to put everything on a right final like JB said.
I dont want to get frustating again next week if mugak fall unconsious. please end all the creepy things quickly and give me back murim hehe. it means the show did a good job bcs I cant stand the creepiness, I pause it many times and cover my screen with cushion, lol. 2 eps left.. I hope they give our hero and heroine back and dont waste their abilities. just like JB said, kkk I agree with almost what you said JB. Thanks a lot for the recap! I'm glad you are enjoying it too ^^
I will miss this show, I love it so much.
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21 wackycashew
May 16, 2015 at 10:37 PM
Thanks for the recap, JB!
Totally enjoyed the duel between Lt. Yeom and JH!! Good to get some answers as to why JH behaves the way he does and commits those murders. It was satisfying to see JH rattled and looking bewildered. The perfume was used as expected to let CR know that Lt. Yeom was inside JH's house.
Appreciated the touching and emotionally-charged moments between MG and CR. But I found the story faltering a bit during the scene of Lt. Yeom's countdown to death. It was "nice" to get that clue from the grandma and girl about making the scents visible, but realistically, they should've just searched the surroundings. That's the natural thing to do for anyone, not just cops. Who would wait for the rain to stop to continue an urgent investigation?! No one relies on seeing smells to find a murderer! Just didn't make sense.
Anyway, hope this series will wrap up on a good note.
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22 opaque
May 16, 2015 at 10:45 PM
this show is very stupid.
but also, after reading this recap, I watched the scenes between JH and Lt. YM and they have so much antagonistic chemistry!! the emotional play in those scenes was amazing and so much more captivating than the main couple. I loved how she was scared but didn't give it away even to the last sec
now I want them in a dark romance as the main OTP. (drama gods??)
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Tricia
May 16, 2015 at 10:52 PM
+1
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23 Mandy
May 16, 2015 at 11:04 PM
I haven't commented on a drama recap of this show in so long, but I'm still liking it despite the ridiculous plot holes. I also don't mind the focus being on Jae-hee instead of Mu-gak because the villain so interesting and creepy that I actually want to understand him more. I felt extremely bad for him - before catching myself - when he realized those autobiographies could be false. That's how well Nam Goong-min has played Jae-hee.
I recall hating NGM in MSH because he had the same creepy smile and suspicious gaze. But he's absolutely nailing Jae-hee right now, and I wouldn't mind having the finale week focus more on what turned him into a psycho. But of course, a few kisses (or lots!) from the OTP isn't something I'd be complaining about lol.
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24 nara
May 16, 2015 at 11:35 PM
im sorry, but are we getting double recap?
is lollypip also doing a recap?
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 12:45 AM
@ nara
My guess is that JB is just helping out this time, so no double recap, I'm afraid! :)
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nara
May 17, 2015 at 5:52 AM
ah well it would have been nice to have a double
maybe brake a record?
thanx GB
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25 Aigoooo
May 17, 2015 at 1:06 AM
I would say excellent OTP chemistry and great casting of the villain saved this show from being such a hot mess.
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26 Dramahunter
May 17, 2015 at 1:12 AM
Thank you JB for the recap!! This episode was a total on the limits stuff. Terrific performance from JH and YM. But as many people here pointed out, i felt it was silly of the cops to abandon their search of the trapdoor once it started raining. They were soooo dependent on CR's smell seeing ability that they forgot they have their eyes to look around and find the door. I wonder what they would have done if CR wasn't there to help out?????
As far as JH is concerned I still don't understand his logic of killing people and possessing their life?? How does documenting the victims life in a book give him the feeling of pleasure? I am not quite sure how that helps him feel good?
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niyati
May 17, 2015 at 5:19 AM
"They were soooo dependent on CR’s smell seeing ability that they forgot they have their eyes to look around and find the door." Agreed.. I mean hello.. Super obvious blue tarp randomly covering something. It's the first place I would think of looking!
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Dramahunter
May 17, 2015 at 9:00 AM
As much as I love the bonding between the cop team I find their police competency really appalling. I understand that the story needs to reach it's climax before JH is turned in but some things just don't make sense to me. I mean a CHIEF POLICE DETECTIVE working on a high profile barcode murder case has been missing since last 6 days , I expected a bit more involvement from the Police Department rather than what was shown.
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27 Cocobeans
May 17, 2015 at 1:52 AM
i still think JH lied to Lt Yeom when he said he wanted to kill Cho Rim.
His "unwillingness" to suspect her off helping the police until it was blatantly Obvious, his distress at finding out she was the witness, his puzzled look when she offered to exchange places with Lt Yeom .
I remember him even smiling at her antics when she wasn't around, so it was not even as a facade , he was genuily amused by her and interested a lot.
I think he likes her, as much as any psycho can have these kinds of feelings and it puzzles him.
Just like in Mu Gak i think Cho Rim stirs something inside chef,wakes things up in him.
He doesn't want to kill her, he wants to have her, with him, as his one and only, forever, thinking she might be the only one that would "fit " him.
I dont think that he was BORN a psycho, but rather created by his abusive adoptive parents (evidenced by the fact that he was able to recognise faces but his subconscious blocks it, so at one point he DID have feelings) ..psycho's who are created are even worse then born psycho's, they do know what is wrong, but choose not to comply.
Mu gak his subconscious blocked his senses after a trauma and physical feelings, but remained his humanity ,chef blocked his emotions and severed his ties to humanity after a trauma.Both are opposite sides to the same coins if you ask me.
Also..What happened to the dog!!! I have a bone to pick with the writer about this.Does nobody care about the dog?
Send out a missing dog report for Moong chi.He's been dognapped!
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 4:47 AM
@cocobeans
You've got a different and interesting take on JH. He did seem to be more genuine in liking CR. I felt he liked her more as a person whom he could talk to rather than as a potential girlfriend. Ultimately, no matter how much he liked her, it probably would not have preserved her life once he tired of her or had any other reason to kill her (evidence his killing of Ma Ri). It is at this point that we'd really like to know the reasons for why/how he chooses his victims.
So MG, CR and JH are connected in more than one way. All are linked by the killings 3 years previously and all 2 are persons who have suffered trauma and as a result were changed in such a way that their sensory perception was affected. We might say that this story examines how each of them adapted and what they choose to do with or because of their strange abilities/disabilities. If JH was not mentally ill to begin with and could choose, then he is either evil or has become psychotic.
Yes, Moong Chi would have been a good addition to the Mu Gak team and could have helped sniff out the scent that CR could not see. :D
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 9:33 AM
@cocobeans
LOL! Right. Where's Moong Chi?? Moong Chi ah, make sure you appear before the show ends, we just wanna make sure you are alright, okay?
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 9:30 AM
@cocobeans
Love your insight.
"i still think JH lied to Lt Yeom when he said he wanted to kill Cho Rim."
Agree! I was like, no chef, I can tell you are lying, haha. There are so many times you can harm her, but you didn't. Because you are in denial. You refuse to believe that the one and only person you believe is a friend is choosing not to stand on your side, and you can't even blame her because it's not her fault.
"Mu gak his subconscious blocked his senses after a trauma and physical feelings, but remained his humanity, chef blocked his emotions and severed his ties to humanity after a trauma. Both are opposite sides to the same coins if you ask me."
Absolutely.
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lc
May 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM
Wow @ cocobeans, good point you had there. Remember that Cho Rim is the only person JH confided in about his face recognition disorder, so that's saying something about how he regards her. But I still think his interest in her may not turn out to be a good thing in the long run, given that he is so warped in his ideas of human relationships. I still remember the scene where he gave Cho Rim a dress for her first onscreen show. It's as if he was trying to mark his target - "wear this dress from me so that I know it's you", which was fortunately thwarted by Mugak, with his yellow dress comment hehe.
And on Moongchi - maybe Cho Rim or Mugak can adopt him after everything is over? That way if Mugak ends up choosing hairpins for dogs by mistake again, there is now Moongchi to wear them hehe! And he will have a fellow to give him a run for his puppy eyes!
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freshmint
May 17, 2015 at 11:36 PM
@Ic
"And on Moongchi – maybe Cho Rim or Mugak can adopt him after everything is over? That way if Mugak ends up choosing hairpins for dogs by mistake again, there is now Moongchi to wear them hehe! And he will have a fellow to give him a run for his puppy eyes!"
Not a bad idea at all.
And we can have the ultimate battle of cuteness; Moongchi's puppy eyes vs Mugak's puppy eyes, lol
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28 Yuki
May 17, 2015 at 2:45 AM
It was a good episode for me. Last week felt like filler. At least now things are progressing and part of the cuteness was back.
Since there are only 2 episodes left, I hope there will be no more filler and they focus on the best trait of this show, the adorable couple being cute together. Can they go back to their skit rehearsals?? :D
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29 Gr8*
May 17, 2015 at 3:22 AM
If there is one thing that the writers of this drama should learn is that they should never reveal too many things to the viewers too soon. While it builds up tension, it also frustrates the viewers when the protagonists, who are not supposed to have the viewers' hindsight, do not perform to viewers' high expectations and are therefore termed stupid.
So while viewers know there is a trapdoor underneath the tarpaulin sheet, the team doesn't. To continue searching the construction site indiscriminately in the rain may put the team in danger because the killer could be lurking nearby to attack them from his vantage point.
However, viewers already know where the killer is and what he is about to do, so they end up cursing and swearing at the team for their ineptness and other so-called plot holes.
I truly dislike the live filming format adopted by K-drama producers and directors. In order to increase the ratings, I can imagine the frazzled writers being given a mandate to end every episode with a cliffhanger. In between, they need to put in product placements, cute moments for the OTP to satisfy their fans, tense moments to keep viewers on edge and fillers to wrap up the 50 minutes. No wonder the quality does suffer.
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lc
May 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM
Thanks @ Gr8*, for pointing these things out. That's something I hadn't considered at all.
And I totally agree with you on the Korean live filming format and how it impacts the quality of the show.
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30 Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 3:57 AM
Does anyone understand the language that they speak in, Korean??
Very, very recently, I noticed that Cho-Rim has been using formal way with Moo-Gak, whereas Moo-Gak keeps speaking to her the informal way.
Why! Why do you speak to him formally?!! I feel weird about it, does Cho-Rim want to keep a distance to Moo-Gak or something? I rewind back to ep 6 and 7 when they just got together, she was also using the formal polite form.
Or did I... misunderstand?!! I noticed many of Cho-Rim's sentences end with -yo (the formal, polite way). Whereas Moo-gak's speeches are in Banmal (the one you use with someone close to you), if I understood them correctly.
I've been trying to self-learn Korean, but my progress is... embarrassing.
Oh well D:
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Geraldine
May 17, 2015 at 7:00 AM
it's quite normal in Korea because age gap and respect and hierarchy is very important to the korean society, since mugak is older than chorim, mugak gets to speak to her in Banmal, while she speaks formally to him even after they got closer, or even while they are dating. once they get permission from the other party, they can stop speaking in Jondaemal (which is formal speech used when speaking to strangers, or older people, or people with higher social status), but the younger still has to speak formally, using proper sentence endings like -yo or -da, and can't really drop it.
even for the older party, they would ask permission from the younger party before dropping to Banmal. that's why mugak told chorim that he will speak in Banmal because they are partners.
and i notice koreans call their superior(people older than them, or people having higher social status) by their titles, and not their names. like chorim calls mugak Officer Choi, and not Mugak. i think this is the way they address someone older than them. :)
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Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 12:12 PM
Aye~! I thought one would natirally speak in banmal if you feel close to them!
I was hanging out with a few Korean colleagues a few months ago during a training trip, we were all happy hanging out together. I threw in a few Korean words whenever I liked. Things like "keu rae yo? " (really? ) , "an ja" (sit), "komabsumnida"(thank you) and "keun dae" (but) and so on on on on, switching between banmal and jeondaemal whenever I like. I must have been very rude D:
Oh, my world is crashing down now.... give me a moment to cry in a corner.... lol. i should properly learn korean before I attempt to speak.
But hey thanks @Geraldine for the clarification! !! That helps!
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM
@ Feliss
Not to worry about it when speaking with Korean colleagues... for one thing they are quite understanding and probably appreciate more that you have tried to speak Korean rather than have been hung up on your not knowing the 'rules'... and anyway, if they don't say anything or indicate disapproval, then it probably means they are fine with the way you speak with them. :)
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Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 9:03 PM
Thanks GB, that made my day <3
Geraldine
May 17, 2015 at 7:07 AM
hehe maybe to put it simple, there are 3 levels of respect in korean speech.
Jondaemal
formal speech (with proper sentence endings of -yo or -da)
Banmal.
so when strangers first meet they will speak in jondaemal to each other. then they will find out about each other's age, then when they are comfortable, the older would ask to speak in Banmal, while the younger would ask to speak in formal speech. the elder can request the younger to speak in banmal to him as well, but the younger person cannot anyhow just speak in banmal before getting permission
but anyone, close or not, would speak in jondaemal to their superiors at work, or elderly.
hope this clears some questions hehe ^^ i also recently found out about this system in korean speech haha
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31 growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 4:31 AM
@ Feliss
You are right. All the way through CR has chosen to speak in Chundemal and still retains this. Perhaps she's just more comfortable speaking that way.
MG on the other hand said from the beginning that he speaks in Banmal to those he works with and since he worked with her on the skit, he started using Banmal very early on (maybe from the beginning?). Also he is older and does not really need to speak in Chundemal as long as the younger person does not object. :)
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Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 5:52 AM
Oh!!! Yeah that reminds me. He said to speak comfortably at the bus stop in the earlier episodes!
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Feliss
May 17, 2015 at 5:54 AM
Or something along the lines that he will be speaking comfortably to his co-workers, since they are going to be partners ;)
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32 Geraldine
May 17, 2015 at 6:51 AM
i love how this drama first gives us more insight on chorim's smell seeing abilities, then put them to real tests. like for the part where she can see smells in the dark, then use it as an advantage to escape from jaehee. and also being unable to see smells when the rain falls, then really having this problem when catching jaehee's scent trail. the drama doesn't just put out plots without letting us first know the details of her smell seeing abilities, which i think is a good lay up to the plot developments :)
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM
@ Geraldine
True, true, ... it's just a pity they had no time to do the same for a couple of other things like character development for Yeom and JH to give us an insight into why Yeom is so intent on this particular case and how JH chooses his victims.
Although they had time during some episodes (in terms of needing to add in filler), they did not have time to write in the back-stories and shoot them. But the overall plot was obviously already outlined and the rest probably depended on what the viewers/ratings determined in the weekly live shoots.
So despite holes and question marks, the story will still hang together quite nicely :)
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 9:02 AM
@Gb
"the overall plot was obviously already outlined and the rest probably depended on what the viewers/ratings determined in the weekly live shoots."
I guess this is so the case here. That's why I never have problem with this show, one of my favourites despite it's flaws. As long as they are able to get the main frame/overall plot right, top with some good acting, I'm good.
Love this team of actors/actresses, I'm gonna miss them a lot when this ends for sure.
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 4:50 PM
@Neutral
+10 :)
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33 CFLH
May 17, 2015 at 6:59 AM
the thing that really annoyed me in this episode was that the trap door was under a bigass TARP! and the detectives relied solely on cho rim's abilities to look for the entrance.....
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34 Wag_a_Muffin
May 17, 2015 at 8:08 AM
JUST CATCH THE PSYCHO ALREADY!!! And then give me 2 episodes of Mu-Gak and Cho Rim googly eying each other. Let's see her audition with him as her partner (CHURRRR!) And how about they double date with the cop and his Russian sweeti?
That's what I want! (But, alas. I seldom get what I want.)
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:28 AM
LOL! @ Wag_a_Muffin
I want our 3 stooges policemen to do a gag concert where they act as cops with super senses, unable to catch criminals right in front of them!!! Heheheh!
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 8:43 AM
@Gb
Hahahahaha another great idea! I want the team to end this light, please make my wish come true!
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Wag_a_Muffin
May 17, 2015 at 12:27 PM
Oh yes. Shil-pi-da, (or however you spell "I failed.")
I like gag concert and the 3 cops would fit right in on the sketch about the guy everyone is trying to kill.
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Neutral
May 17, 2015 at 8:41 AM
GREAT IDEA @Wag! We must go back to the cute department, the sooner, the better, dear writer. Promise you'll send us back before the show ends, yes? No, it's a must. Wait, it's an order. LOL.
Ahh~ how I've missed the "churrrrrrr" moments.
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Wag_a_Muffin
May 17, 2015 at 12:29 PM
You print up the petition and I'll sign it and send it to the show's producer!
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Neutral
May 19, 2015 at 10:15 PM
I'll do just that, wait, do we still have time?? Mr Producer, please wait for us!!! hahaha
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35 pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
May 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM
Just dropping in into say, Yeom-mi is a badass. An incredible badass.
The murderer/would-be victims were the best part of this episode, because the tension in those scenes was fantastic. And, in a VERY wrong way, so was the chemistry. I'd have been so into it if he wasn't a psychopathic murderer and she wasn't his victim, killing is a weird thing to have chemistry over.
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Tricia
May 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM
+1!
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM
LOL!!! A killing chemistry?? ... I can see them playing well and feeding off each other in "Let's work together antagonistically" roles and hopefully not killing each other at the end of it!!! Hey, as long as it's not indifference, it could lead to luurrve! :)
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36 tgwss-er
May 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM
JB: I’m happy to do since I’ve been enjoying the show with its cute chemistry and (as funny as it sounds) lightweight murder mystery.
Funny but true, it's just LIGHTWEIGHT people, please relax a little, yes? lol
You know, it's always easier to handle a single child (single genre) than a pair of twins (mixed genre). Obviously, "romcom" is the dominant twin here and am glad to see she's much loved by viewers, hehe.
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37 ApPlEvAnIeLa
May 17, 2015 at 10:38 AM
hi DB! thanks for the recap..
you know what i think..? i think...yoochun and se kyung MUST be a real couple..why..? because..they're most cute,sweet,romantic and funny couple!
go! go! go! yoochun and se kyung!
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freshmint
May 17, 2015 at 11:56 PM
I think you think too much hahaha.
Although I totally agree with you "they’re most cute, sweet, romantic and funny couple!" truly one lovable couple.
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ApPlEvAnIeLa
May 18, 2015 at 12:17 AM
freshmint,
yeah..maybe you right..i think to much hahah..
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38 ryanlee
May 17, 2015 at 4:17 PM
I hope TGWSS get a happy ending. I love this drama, i think producer, director and all of actors have worked hard to make a great drama. Thanks to all. TGWSS FIGHTING!!!
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39 graymand06
May 17, 2015 at 4:51 PM
whatever loopholes in TGWSS don't really mind at all coz yoochun's in the drama . . . a lot of people worked hard for this giving whatever strenghts they have to complete each episode for the viewers delight be it appreciated or not . . . yoochun fighting!!!
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40 4D
May 17, 2015 at 5:12 PM
Most of my thoughts on this episode have been covered by others. But I wanted to say that I'm really disappointed that Yeom's earlier theory about the American adoptive parents abusing him apparently are true. Obviously being American I'm more aware of stereotypes but I've just seen too many shows now where the Korean goes to America and meets the awful, morally corrupt Americans. I've yet to see one where the stay left them encountering someone good (unless they were at least partially Korean). Super annoyed.
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May 17, 2015 at 7:01 PM
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41 prettysup
May 17, 2015 at 6:56 PM
Sorry off-topic here, but does anyone here has any K-drama recommendation for me to watch while waiting for the last 2 episodes to air? Preferably some action drama which the hero gets injured / tortured /sick etc frequently hehe... Already watched Gaksital, Faith, City Hunter, Healer, Three Days, Spy, Punch, Gu family book...
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May 17, 2015 at 7:11 PM
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:24 PM
Hmmm... how about Time Between Dog and Wolf and Two Weeks?? I only watched snippets of the latter but whenever I watched, the poor lead (Lee Jung Ki) was suffering! LOL! I should not laugh... LJK was also in Time Between Dog and Wolf and he said in the making of it that he had a hard time ...
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growingbeautifully
May 17, 2015 at 8:39 PM
Oh yeah... Bad Guys had suffering and there were 4 + 1 leads so lots of suffering to go around Heheheh!
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prettysup
May 18, 2015 at 9:59 PM
@Marina, I tried Doctor Stranger before.. were there any torturing? Hmm.. I remembered I didnt really like the plot.... Will look up Golden Cross, thanks!
@Growingbeautifully, I have heard these 2 shows before but i dont really like the lead Lee JK so i didnt watch them .. Will look up Bad Guys, thanks too !!
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42 ryanlee
May 18, 2015 at 6:46 AM
I will always support TGWSS. I hope it will have a happy ending. Thanks to all cast to make a good drama.
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43 Lizzy4e
May 18, 2015 at 6:53 AM
This OTP has ALL the chemistry. I am watching several dramas right now and Falling for Innocence is the only other show where the OTP has chemistry.
These two are really cute together.
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44 Ennayra
May 18, 2015 at 6:03 PM
What? No glimpses of our villain working out this episode?! Lol.
In all seriousness, I can't add much to what everyone else said about the smells in the rain scene. So I'll only add that whoever is dressing Nam Goongmin knows what they're doing. I have never been such a fan of menswear as I have for his outfits in this drama. I even have a favorite pair of pants that he wore. And last episode when he wore that cheetah print shirt...wow.
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prettysup
May 21, 2015 at 1:07 AM
Oh i hate the chef's flowery shirt! The one he wore 1 or 2 episodes ago.. think it was blue or green floral with a tie.. yucks !!
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45 pastmidnite
May 18, 2015 at 8:31 PM
The detectives already have proof that JH is really the barcode killer, right? All they need to do is arrest JH, the end. But there's still two episodes left. Of course, as much as I want two episodes full of our OTP playing cutesy, I guess that's probably highly unlikely to happen. I wonder what other story/ies that the writer/s have yet unveiled, or if there could be another twist (the last good one for me is the CR-Yeom switch, although I was a bit suspicious there was something going on with the ladies shopping for clothes & perfume scene, and the girl JH was holding when he kidnapped her had black/darker colored hair, while CR's hair is brunette (?).
With only 2 episodes left, I'm not going to fuss about holes anymore (well, maybe a little lol) and just enjoy the (bumpy) ride ahead!
Oh, but I have some questions, just out of curiousity, not looking for flaws lol, since I got distracted while watching the end of this episode and haven't rewatched it:
- How did JH get to the other side of the glass wall? Is there a connecting door?
- How did Mu gak and the gang get into the chamber? I thought JH had to scan his finger to enter.
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Enios
May 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM
answers to your questions:
1. I think he goes through that closet with the mirrors...the room where he dumps the blooded clothes. I remember them showing it in once scene but not well enough to tell you the exact scene
2. Moo Gak shot at the finger print thing...how that helps to open the chamber, i don't know
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pastmidnite
May 19, 2015 at 7:55 PM
Oh yeah, the mirror closet, how could I not remember that...
MG shot that thing? So Mu gak lol
I guess I really missed the scene.
Thanks!
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growingbeautifully
May 19, 2015 at 11:46 PM
@pastmidnite
I forgot the mirror closet too!!! But... I don't remember any shooting to get admittance into the secret room... even JH was surprised to see the door open and the cops walk in, as if he did not here anything... or may it was so sound proof he could not hear anything??? but he just had the mic on to speak with Yeom?!?!. I have to watch again... *sigh* this bad memory of mine!!!
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46 Enios
May 19, 2015 at 12:33 AM
Surprisingly I'm really enjoying this drama more than i originally thought I would. This is the first time I've ever like Shin Se Kyung in anything. The role just fits her and I find myself liking her as well (see what happens when you pick a good character and do a good job of portraying them?). Yoo Chun is also growing on me as well. Never was much to gush over his looks, but he is defeinitely the looker and Choi Moo Gak is another character that I seriously like.
That said, Jae Hee and Yeom Mi are carrying most of this show lately. I was very frustrated with how the detectives took so long in finding the hideout. It was way too obvious that they were buying time.
I really do enjoy this drama though, so much so that I'm a little sad it's going to end this week. it's a perfect mix of extremely sweet and super scary (Namgoong Min plays Jae Hee too well and it scares me too much)
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47 Neutral
May 19, 2015 at 10:54 PM
@Susan and @Gb
Just couldn't find an appropriate space to butt in to say that I like your convo above so I'll just say it here, lol
Especially interesting is this "In the case of TGWSS, Park Yoo-Chun’s character is a consistently nice and teasing guy who adopts a stiff demeanor only at the police station. (Note how his character with his sister is the same as with his girlfriend.) This provides an amazingly good comedic foil. Frankly, I’m now trying to think of how we can write a character for him into one of our projects." Like really? Wow.
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growingbeautifully
May 19, 2015 at 11:43 PM
@Neutral
Just letting you know that I've come back to check out the comments here and have read you!
Yes, I really appreciate the fact that Susan took the time and trouble to explain it all so thoroughly and well. Hers is the insider point of view that I really wish I had.
When I feel something is wrong, I cannot explain why or back my feeling up, but taking a leaf from how Susan explains the making of shows, I am getting a better idea of what to look out for.
Thanks again Susan!! (although you may not see this comment)
And yes, isn't it great that within this International community, there are show makers who are looking out for talent and can consider creating characters for them. Wow indeed!!!
:)
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