Hyde, Jekyll, Me: Episode 8
by girlfriday
Okay, things just got way more interesting. The plot gets a fresh twist, the suspense actually heats up, and everyone starts pushing past our hero’s boundaries whether he likes it or not. Not, as the case may be, but luckily there are people in his life who care more about helping him than being liked.
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EPISODE 8 RECAP
Seo-jin spends approximately thirty seconds letting Hana hug him, his guard down for that brief moment as the panic attack seizes him. But when the moment passes, he turns away from her so she won’t see him crying and stalks off.
In the bathroom, Seo-jin stares at his reflection and shakes as the truth sinks in: His childhood friend Soo-hyun, the one he left behind when he escaped from the kidnappers… is alive. Oh, well if you thought you left him for dead, then I’m pretty sure his growing up with a vendetta against you isn’t entirely bad news. Okay, so it’s not good news…
Secretary Kwon is sniffling as he makes a call to Chairman Dad and tells him about Soo-hyun being Glasses Strangler. He was the chauffeur’s son, apparently, and the news makes Mom and Dad reel, and Secretary Kwon is especially emotional. Interestingly, he tamps down his tears and puts on a forced cheery demeanor the second he sees Seo-jin, which breaks my heart a little.
Seo-jin is back to his cold hard shell, and betrays none of his earlier nerves as he refuses to go back in and see Soo-hyun. He might’ve been a friend in childhood, but Seo-jin says that he’s nothing more than a suspect now.
Hana is checking in with Dr. Tae-joo when Seo-jin joins them, back to his old self. He apologizes if he startled her earlier, and that he was just in shock. That’s all he offers, and he barrels ahead to go give a witness statement to Detective Na.
He lets them stand there and listen in, as he tells Detective Na everything he knows: Soo-hyun was the family chauffeur’s son, and they were friends. When they were kidnapped, Chairman Dad refused to pay up, and Seo-jin escaped on his own. He never knew until now what had happened to Soo-hyun.
Detective Na is still shocked about the part where Chairman Dad doesn’t pay the ransom to get his son back, but Seo-jin actually defends his father, as if he’s been saying this to himself for years just to cope. He says that the police advised Dad not to deal with the kidnappers directly, and nobody has the heart to argue with Seo-jin over this.
Detective Na fills in a few details from Soo-hyun’s statement, and asks if it’s true that Soo-hyun’s dad broke into Chairman Dad’s safe to get the money for the ransom. According to Soo-hyun, his father died while trying to deliver the ransom money, though Seo-jin can’t confirm any of this—the theft is news to him, and the version he knows is that the chauffeur refused to listen to the cops, went rogue to recover his son, and got killed in an accident.
Tae-joo interrupts to ask Seo-jin about the specific way in which he escaped, because it might shed some light on the suspect’s psyche. But Seo-jin admits that he can’t remember.
The only thing Detective Na can’t make sense of is why Soo-hyun went after Dr. Kang, if his vendetta is against Seo-jin. But Seo-jin knows exactly why, and answers vaguely that Dr. Kang has what he wants most, and if Soo-hyun knew that, he had every reason to take her.
As Hana walks through Wonderland later that day, her mind wanders to Seo-jin’s declaration that this place held no happy childhood memories for him. She now realizes what he meant and why he was so cold about it.
Seo-jin goes to see Chairman Dad, who’s worried that Soo-hyun’s attack on Dr. Kang means that he knows all about Seo-jin’s condition. You would be worried about that. Dad thinks Dr. Kang is a lost cause, but Seo-jin adamantly tells him to stop thinking that he can just get rid of people to sweep up messes. He swears that he’ll find Dr. Kang because he needs to, otherwise it’s a lifetime of guilt all over again. Yikes, I didn’t even think about that part. Please be alive, Dr. Kang!
Seo-jin spends the rest of the day with a packed schedule as if nothing’s the matter, and Hana’s the one who can’t seem to concentrate on her work all day. She wonders why she can’t focus, when Seo-jin insisted that he was fine. She takes out her phone to start a text to Robin asking about his brother, but decides against it.
At home, Secretary Kwon is still worried about Seo-jin and adorably suggests a sleepover (yes please!), which Seo-jin shoots down flatly. He orders him to go home, and Secretary Kwon runs into Hana on her way in and asks her to keep an eye on Seo-jin.
She knocks on his door a few times, but when there’s no answer, she peeks in and finds him shivering under the covers, looking ghostly sick. She panics and reaches for her phone to call Secretary Kwon, but Seo-jin grabs her arm and shakes his head, not wanting a fuss.
So she runs out for some aspirin instead, and calls an urgent care hotline to ask what she needs to do. We only hear her side of the conversation but it’s funnier that way: “Take the blanket off, okay. What, take off his clothes? Hug him? Uh… Are there other symptoms? I don’t know, he’s not talking. No… he’s just got a weird personality.” HA.
I love that he opens his eyes at the stripping and hugging lines, like he’s checking to see if she will. She doesn’t, which means she must be delirious too. It’s the only explanation.
He snaps at her the whole time like a petulant child, but Hana’s used to it by now and just heads to the kitchen to make tea and juice. She gapes that there isn’t a single grain of rice to eat in his kitchen, but then remembers that she’s never really seen him eat at home even once.
He grumbles at her to just leave the tea and go, but she snaps right back that he can’t pretend to be strong all the time. She knows this is stress-induced, and says that if he’s that tightly wound all the time, he’s bound to make himself sick.
She holds her hands out to pull him up out of bed, but that just reminds him of the hope he let himself feel just yesterday, when he thought that maybe he could make new memories at Wonderland and live like other people. He looks up at her holding her hands out and thinks to himself that it’s all meaningless now.
He tells her to get out, and climbs out of bed to make her leave this instant, saying cryptically that he never should’ve let it get this far, but it’s too late to go back now. She can’t make sense of what he’s saying, and Seo-jin just continues that all of it is because of her: “It’s because of you that Robin came back, and because of you, I let myself hope what I shouldn’t hope. But everything is in the same place. So don’t hold your hand out to me. Don’t give me hope.”
She’s still confused, but he barks that if she had never appeared, everything would be as it was: “Alone if I’m sick, alone if I die. So why did you appear? Why did you see?! Why did you come?!” She says that she was worried about him, which just makes him even more defensive.
He accuses her of pitying him and tells her that she’s nothing to him. That stings, and Hana spits back that he once told her to live like a ghost here, but he’s the ghost, not seeing or hearing anything. She tells him to just keep living that way and storms out, and he reaches for the door handle to follow her out.
But he can’t do it and just sinks down, leaning against the door. She’s on the other side doing the same, both of them reeling. When she goes to her room, her eyes pool with tears, and she gets angry with herself for letting Seo-jin make her cry.
Cousin Seung-yeon continues to buzz around Detective Na, plying him with lunch and friendly chitchat, always posing as Seo-jin’s caring relative with his best interest at heart. Seung-yeon wants to talk to Soo-hyun directly, suggesting that a friendly face could get him to talk more freely.
He’s let in to see him, but Soo-hyun doesn’t seem to recognize Seung-yeon at all, and even when he hears about how close they all were as children, he looks confused. Huh. Are you not the real Soo-hyun, or is cousin Seung-yeon full of shit? Either seems entirely possible.
Soo-hyun tells him to get out, but Seung-yeon insists that he was better friends with Soo-hyun than Seo-jin ever was, and tries to convince him that they’re on the same side. He takes a trip down memory lane and reminds him of the time they accidentally started a fire and got burned, and laughs as he jerks back Soo-hyun’s collar to look at the burn scar… but it isn’t there.
Seung-yeon runs out of there and rushes to tell Detective Na that the suspect they have isn’t the real Lee Soo-hyun. Cousin Seung-yeon, did you just make yourself useful?? Well I’ll be damned.
Detective Na takes a team back to the suspect’s apartment to look for clues into his identity, whatever it may be. It’s nothing conclusive, but they find an old album from an orphanage dated before the kidnapping, with all the pictures removed.
Woo-jung and all her fangirls are gathered for a Robin fan meeting that night, and Eun-chang has picked up a second job at her dad’s café just to be near her. The starry-eyed way that he looks at her is too cute.
Robin wakes up and sees all the sick supplies around him, but when he feels his forehead, he’s fine. He smiles thinking of his kiss with Hana, and invites her to the event at Woo-jung’s.
Robin gets there first and is immediately mobbed by screaming fangirls, and I totally find it weird that the girls are so young and he’s just sitting there as they perform a dance routine for him. But then Hana shows up and they leave together, much to Woo-jung’s ire.
After hearing about Hana’s failed attempts to nurse Seo-jin back to health, Robin chides her for letting Seo-jin get the last word, suggesting a comeback about his inability to receive comfort.
She agrees, and Robin says that Seo-jin is incapable of accepting comfort because he’s never given it, calling it a family trait. She asks if their parents are like that too, and Robin quips that even Chairman Dad’s eyebrows are incapable of anger management. Ha.
Robin tells her that Seo-jin was an outcast in school, so one day he showed up pretending to be Seo-jin, and wowed all the kids with cool skateboarding tricks. He brags that a Seo-jin fanclub sprang up the very next day, though the real Seo-jin quickly squashed that momentary glory.
He describes Seo-jin’s basic mode as always scratching, yelling, pushing away, so at some point Robin decided to let things be and he’d live his own life, and leave Seo-jin to his. Hana wonders why Seo-jin isn’t more upset with their father, and Robin explains that Seo-jin sees his father as a wall and nothing more—there isn’t any reason for him to lash out at a wall, and resenting Robin is the next best thing.
Robin notices that she’s pretty concerned about Seo-jin, and she admits that she is. She feels bad about the things he suffered as a child, and then jokes that kindness is a disease she suffers from. She asks if Robin can’t get along with him like he used to.
After their date, Robin sneaks into the house after Hana, tiptoeing into Seo-jin’s room right away. It’s a good thing he does, too, because she makes tea and knocks on the door a few minutes later. She leaves the thermos outside the door and Robin mumbles that he’ll drink it, pretending to be Seo-jin.
As they each head to bed that night, Robin says to himself that he’s sorry about not being able to tell her everything. “But if you find out everything and can handle it, if you won’t throw me away, then I won’t ever leave you first.”
Seo-jin wakes up in the morning and finds a note from Robin to watch the latest batcave video. He heads down there and finds a bottle of soju laid out for him, and in the message, Robin raises a glass of soju to ask that they share a drink.
We watch the rest of the scene as if Robin is sitting there on the other side of the table, and it’s pretty funny that Robin can predict that Seo-jin won’t drink, even though he points out that he heard about Seo-jin having higher tolerance than he does.
Robin gets serious as he talks about the reason he came to be, at first quoting Dr. Kang’s clinical diagnosis but in the end, reducing it to a simple answer: “Because you wanted to live.” Robin says that’s really all it boils down to: “So let’s live. Let’s try living. Why is it that you created me so that you could live, only to spend every day in hell? Why am I happy every day? Aren’t you a little resentful of that?”
Robin says that he’s never been as happy and wishful for his own life as he is lately, but no matter how much he hates to admit it, he exists because of Seo-jin. He adds, “And you might not want to admit it, but because I live, you live.”
He says that Seo-jin created him to be the person he wants to be, which doesn’t seem that far off, not that Seo-jin would ever acknowledge this. Robin says he’s here to help: “Help me—that’s all you need to say. I’ll be waiting.” Seo-jin walks away without a word, and on the monitor, Robin sighs, almost as if he can see what’s happening.
Detective Na tracks down Glasses Strangler’s adoption records, and finds that his real name is Ahn Sung-geun after all, and the timing makes it impossible for him to be Soo-hyun. Innnteresting. Detective Na confronts him back at the station, but Sung-geun sticks to his story, insisting that he is Lee Soo-hyun.
Hana wakes up to a text from Robin telling her that he’s going to try and make up with Seo-jin, because he doesn’t want her to worry anymore. She beams, and soon after, Seo-jin finds her setting the table with warm food. She tells him to eat breakfast and promises not to say another word, and he peers down at the table curiously.
But before he can decide whether or not to eat, Secretary Kwon runs in, babbling anxiously about Soo-hyun not being Soo-hyun. When they get to the police station, cousin Seung-yeon is there regaling everyone with his big Sherlock moment, and Seo-jin demands to see Soo-hyun this instant.
Seo-jin reaches for the suspect’s collar and confirms what we’ve already seen—no burn scar, which means he isn’t Soo-hyun. He demands to know who he is, but Sung-geun keeps repeating the same thing, swearing that he’s Lee Soo-hyun.
The other guys watch from the observation room, and Detective Na says that this whack job passed the lie detector test, though he doesn’t see how. Seung-yeon starts throwing out wild theories about genius killers who convince themselves that lies are truth, and that sparks Dr. Tae-joo’s brain. He realizes that it’s possible if Sung-geun truly believes that he’s Lee Soo-hyun… if he were hypnotized to believe it.
Not-Soo-hyun tells Seo-jin that he knows the truth about what happened that day, and that they’re the only two people on earth who know it: “You didn’t just escape alone. You…” But Seo-jin doesn’t let him finish, and grabs him by the collar, demanding to know who he is.
Detective Na rushes in and drags Seo-jin away, and after a moment to collect himself, he tells the group that this guy has to know the real Soo-hyun—he knows details that only Soo-hyun would know.
Again, Tae-joo asks about the circumstances surrounding the escape, and whether anything else happened. (You sure seem fixated on this one thing, like a dog with a bone.) But Seo-jin reiterates the same version he told them before: He tried to save Soo-hyun but wasn’t strong enough to do so, and that’s all.
The others ask Tae-joo about this so-called mental hacking, and he says he’s only read about it and never seen an actual case, but that it’s considered possible to treat a patient with severe trauma by implanting new memories.
Detective Na wonders how many people would be capable of such specialized work, and then the room falls silent. They all look back and forth, no one wanting to be the first to suggest it—that Dr. Kang is the only one who knows all about Seo-jin’s past, and has the skills to hypnotize and plant new memories. Yes… but… so does Tae-joo, right? I mean, if we’re talking skills, he’s first-rate… *whimper*
Secretary Kwon tries to reassure Seo-jin that Dr. Kang would never do something like that, and has no reason to. Detective Na fills Hana in on the latest development, and asks if she’s positive that Ahn Sung-geun is the man she saw at the crime scene.
She’s positive that he attacked her at Wonderland, but isn’t sure that he was the same strangler on the roof of the hospital. That man’s face is still locked in her memory, though she’s sure it was a man and not a woman. Detective Na asks for her continued help because this case just got weird, and she agrees to see Dr. Tae-joo as soon as possible.
She calls Tae-joo and asks to come by later tonight with a friend, and he agrees to see her. He consults on a different case as we watch him come home, and the longer we linger on him, the more anxious I feel. He’s either about to get attacked or reveal something terrible…
He casually grabs a cup of coffee and heads to his bedroom, where he opens up a false door behind his bookcase. Ack no, Dr. Tae-joo! Say it ain’t so! But there’s no mistaking that evil glint in his eye.
He opens another door past the false wall, and enters a dark room where he says that they’re running out of time because Hana says she’s close to remembering. He speaks casually as he laughs, “But do you think that’s going to happen?” We cut to his point of view… and there’s Dr. Kang, tied up and gagged. Holy hell.
We rewind to the day of the attack, when Tae-joo arrived to see Dr. Kang, and she confronted him about his real name: Lee Soo-hyun. He panicked and attacked her, then Hana, and returned to hypnotize Dr. Kang and walk her right out of the building.
He then hypnotized Sung-geun into believing that he was Soo-hyun, and watched Seo-jin’s shocked reaction with the tiniest little smirk on his face. Damn, that’s scary.
Back in the present, Tae-joo tells Dr. Kang that her “foolproof treatment” idea has failed. Once she discovered his true identity, she had come up with the idea that treating Seo-jin and Tae-joo at once would cure them both (if Tae-joo could forgive Seo-jin, they’d both be free, so to speak). But obviously she underestimated Tae-joo’s lack of marbles.
He says her experiment failed, and that he gave Seo-jin a fair shot. He stood by and prodded Seo-jin to admit the truth about what happened that day, during the escape and the way his father died trying to save them. But he scoffs that Seo-jin lied right in front of him, and seemed cool as a cucumber to boot. Dude, OR he doesn’t remember the truth?
But Tae-joo is practically triumphant to prove that Dr. Kang was wrong about Seo-jin. She said that Seo-jin would be relieved to know that he was still alive, and that Seo-jin had suffered as much pain as Tae-joo had, and would earnestly ask for forgiveness.
Tae-joo says that Seo-jin is incapable of that, “Because he’s never felt the pain I’ve felt.” He tells her that it’s time to do it his way, and make things “equal” so that Seo-jin feels the same amount of pain and fear that he did, which in his twisted mind raises the chances of them making up.
He says that Hana is coming by and he still hasn’t decided what to do with her. He isn’t worried about her remembering his face on the hospital roof, since he’s the hypnotist, after all, but something tells me he isn’t about to leave it to chance.
He heads out to answer the door when she arrives, and opens it to greet her with that warm inviting smile that now just creeps me out. But then the door swings open wider, and Robin shows up behind her, smiling obliviously. OH CRAP.
Tae-joo freezes at the sight of him, and Hana just pleasantly says this is the friend she mentioned over the phone. They both smile at him, and Tae-joo’s face twitches as he tries to contain his shock.
Closing caption: If misfortune never befalls just one person, then we need to not face that misfortune alone.
COMMENTS
Well NOW I see why Sung Joon was cast in this role. But did we really need to take four weeks to get to the reveal? I feel like everything is so ass-backwards when it comes to this show’s plotting, because I get that there was an attempt to lull us into a false sense of security and wow us with a big twist, when really, had the best stuff been used upfront, there might be a bigger audience still watching. Last week was when the romance found its footing, and this week the mystery stepped up in a big way, and only now does it finally feel like there’s a lot going on, and all our threads have come together in an engaging way.
I’m actually relieved that Tae-joo is the real Soo-hyun, because he makes for a much better villain, not to mention the fact that Sung Joon won’t be wasted anymore. His brand of crazy is delightfully creepy, given that he’s just as stunted as Seo-jin is, but he’s turning this into a sick game where they have to be even, point for point, scar for scar. The best (worst?) part is that he’s in the perfect position to manipulate everyone, and has their complete trust. Once he discovers the truth about Robin, there’s no telling what kind of twisted revenge he’ll come up with, right? And frankly, a smart, unhinged psychiatrist with the ability to hypnotize people is just about as scary as it gets on the serial killer scale. On the upside, he has yet to kill anyone. On the downside, I’m pretty sure that’s just luck.
Timing aside, I liked the way his character was handled, because I found his hypnosis skills equal parts frightening and cool, and every time I thought he might be a bad guy, he did something to regain my trust and keep the investigation on track. Or so we thought, before realizing that he brainwashed a patsy to take the fall. And the constant turtlenecks were a nice touch, though I never thought anything of it. The creepiest part is that he’s keeping Dr. Kang in his own house, like he’s getting a thrill out of hiding her right under everyone’s noses. *shudder*
I found it fascinating when he insisted that he gave Seo-jin every opportunity to fess up to what he did, as if Seo-jin would break down in tears in front of everyone and beg for forgiveness. I’m not sure he’d do that even if he did recover his memories, but also, Tae-joo doesn’t seem interested in giving him a real chance in hell. It sounded like a justification, like he made every effort to do it Dr. Kang’s way, and now he has grounds to do things his way. He seems to cling to moral superiority fiercely, like it’s what gives him the right to do this. I can’t wait to dig into the real animosity and the truth in their backstory, now that I care about both sides and actually find the villain scary.
It’s also great to see Robin bridging the gap between him and Seo-jin, at Hana’s request. I wonder if his positive feelings will hold even if Hana’s concern for Seo-jin goes beyond platonic, but right now he and Hana are pushing Seo-jin in all the right ways. It’s true that Seo-jin created Robin to survive, but he’s the one living a shell of a life, denying himself attachments, happiness, and warmth. And the longer that Hana is around him, the more it’s evident how much he wants to let himself hope and reach out and have a normal life with real connections. Obviously he’s found it easier to live detached, alone, never failing anyone again and never being abandoned by anyone again. Because the pain he felt the first time broke him. But I’m with Robin on this one—what is the point of living then? Good thing Hana’s around to beat that into him, if need be.
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1 smittenkitten
February 12, 2015 at 8:27 PM
Thanks for the recap! IMO best episode yet (in terms of plot), cannot wait for next week. EEEEEK!
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adelaide
February 13, 2015 at 8:49 AM
Hey, binnies who jumped ship after episode 7, whatchathink now?
It got interesting, just need to persevere a little, so there's the answer to Sung Joon's 3 minute appearance per episode until ep 7, he was casted for a reason not just for decor. coz you need someone like him to spar with Hyun Bin.
As to why he volunteered the info as to what he exactly did to the fall guy is not baffling but just a way of showing off his capabilities and hoping on the side that by doing so he wont be suspected and instead Dr.Kang would be suspected. But, c'mon, Doctor Tae Joo, turtleneck much. And as to why the cousins won't recognize him even face to face, he got plastic surgery. ok, so part of the mystery solved.
so, he probably got adopted to a somewhat well-to-do family so he was able to become a psychiatrist or a psychologist, whatever.
Perhaps he had never seen Robin before so he was surprised but am sure he is aware of Seo Jin's split persona. so how will Tae Joo handle things from here, that, ..will be for the next episode.
See, it is okay.you of little faith.
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iamdeb
February 13, 2015 at 8:59 AM
It's not that serious.
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KDaddict?JCW
February 14, 2015 at 5:10 AM
A show that finally got a bit better in ep 8 out of 20 eps is 40% gone.
Many comments in earlier eps suggested that Tae Joo was the culprit.
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Kibble
February 15, 2015 at 8:04 AM
You know what I have to applaud the way they did this drama. I really appreciated the build ups and I'm glad that at episode eight we are at take off. To many dramas have had me amped up and when episode 11-16 air I feel as through I was dragged through mud sucking at me. I lose interest in the last 3 or eight after being put through a wringer. I love reading recaps but sometimes I feel actual enjoyment is foregone when we nitpick. Not that nitpicking has gone on with the recapping so far. The reveal with tae joo was done nicely and in my opinion well executed even if to some it was obvious he was a nefarious character. If I can sit through dramas with birth secrets, separation, adoption with amnesia thrown in I could more than handle this pace without all that crap and a heroine who only shows backbone to her bedroom and bathroom. Looking forward to more of your recaps for the rest of this drama JavaBeans. Kamsahamnida.
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Kibble
February 15, 2015 at 8:08 AM
Sorry I meant Girlfriday. Do forgive my mistake.
2 susan
February 12, 2015 at 8:29 PM
Lalalalalala! :-)
As predicted, Dr. Yoon Tae-Joo is the villain. The hints kept accumulating, and last episode I began to suspect that he might actually be the boy who was also kidnapped (since the suspect in custody couldn't actually remember anything until after Dr. YTJ visited him in the lock-up.) And, although it's always nice to guess right, what a disappointment the reveal was!
Dr. YTJ is lovely and suave in front of everyone, ably hiding his identity, but then in front of Dr. Kang he's an emotional mess? Sigh. That's a little to cardboard for my taste in villains. How much more satisfying would it be for him to be always suave - then his kindness would seem sinister and we would see him as strongly flawed. The motivation would be stronger - right now he's just crazy. Yawn.
And another little niggle. Dr. Kang has been missing for a long time, but she's still in her lab coat? And despite having a gash on her head from hitting the glass table and bleeding on the floor, her outfit has no blood on it? And how does he arrange for her to pee??????
:-) Sorry for the digression....
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karin
February 12, 2015 at 8:50 PM
hypnotiz, i guess? Hahahaah maybe sung joon hypnotized her her when he thinks its her time to pee, poo, and eat. lol, its a bit funny imagining it though.
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Wonbinie
February 12, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Lol, what you expect from a drama ? XD
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smittenkitten
February 12, 2015 at 8:54 PM
I thought about the peeing and eating, too. I guess details aren't important....
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Wag_a_Muffin
February 13, 2015 at 5:39 AM
Anyone who has a secret room behind a bookcase wall could also have a secret bathroom and stash of Ramen with an electric tea pot, too.
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Wag_a_Muffin
February 13, 2015 at 5:47 AM
Oh, and he's got a clean supply of lab coats. (He has a fetish for women wearing those.) I can't explain why her forehead isn't scarred or shows no sign of trauma. Somebody else will have to figure out that one.)
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Aidualc
February 13, 2015 at 5:55 AM
It doesn't seem far fetched that he would feed her and allow her bathroom breaks off screen, I'm sure he must have a bathroom in his apartment.
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Khule WY
February 13, 2015 at 5:50 AM
I think anyone who suspected him before this episode should be ranked as a genius. I never ever every suspected him till he was on the phone. It's like yo kinder surprise ? heh.This show is like BOOM,you thought you knew me but you didn't, no one did.
I feel terrible ,why didn't they lead this show better ,these ratings damn.it's making Hyun bin and guguma suffer.
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susan
February 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM
I'll take that genius ranking! :-P
I picked him out in the comment threads as the villain back in episode 3 or something....
But, seriously, you're so so right about this show needing a little help. The concept is great. The acting is really good / fine depending on the person.
They even used the apartment set from My Love From Another Star. That's got to have some serious good drama mojo in it! :-)
And, yet....
What do you think? Is it the writing? Pacing? Direction? Casting? Makeup? (those dad's eyebrows are killing me!)
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Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 8:15 AM
It's the script problem. I understand that the script writer is a newbie. The fact that they write the script and film while the show airs at the same time really doesn't help cuz u don't know how bad it is beforehand while the show has to go on. But at least the management should do something because in the end, everyone gets hurt due to lack of quality control processes. I doubt the script writer will be given another chance in the future, actors got trapped in dull, flat roles, fans got bored. However, I will be hanging in here for the cast. I heard the script writer was changed. It will be tough to turn around but Hyun Bin is my true love lol (just kidding). Fighting!
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susan
February 13, 2015 at 8:22 AM
:-) Interesting.
What do you think of the directing? The pacing?
Beezus
February 13, 2015 at 5:12 PM
"I doubt the script writer will be given another chance in the future, actors got trapped in dull, flat roles, fans got bored. "
Bored? I find it delightful and I love the pacing! (Although, the crazy way the run amok gorilla looked in the first episode had me worried.)
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 8:35 AM
There is not much to complain about the directing. They took a fairy tale angle to film. The scenes are just beautiful. As to the pacing, if there is not much in the script and you have 20 episodes to go, the pace has to got to be slow. = =" I don't want to be tough but sorry, script writer, you have to take the blame for this one.
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susan
February 13, 2015 at 8:53 AM
I do agree that the cinematography and set design is very nice. The scenes are very beautiful.
I feel that the directing could be stronger.
Normally you get a script and, from that point as a director, you've got to break down all the scenes, decide all the shots, think about the way it all comes together in the final edit, etc. The script from the writer is a bit of a starting point, it's going to get edited for the needs of visual storytelling. All this is the director's job.
That said, if you've got a script where the pacing is messy, you've got to fix that as a director.
Even though the script is being written as the drama unfolds, long before the project was greenlit by either the studio or the production company, there would have been a treatment and an episode outline. These would have been used in pre-production for everything from casting to set design. And, there would have been plenty of time for the director and the writer to discuss visual storytelling and verbal storytelling concepts and the combined pacing.
So, what gives? Something isn't quite coming together here.... And it was off at the beginning - in those first 4 episodes where the script was pre-written. Not sure what to think....
Miranda
February 13, 2015 at 11:44 AM
The cinematography is beautiful, yes - the staging and the filters, it's all very dreamlike. But when you add in a cloying soundtrack, draggy pacing, and a misfire on chemistry between lead actors then the fairy-tale cinematography starts feeling tonally off.
And I'm just never going to get over this mysterious "circus". So it's a circus that aims for Cirque de Soleil, but involves a gorilla, bubbles, and apparently some high-wire acts that we never ever see. The cast are never seen practicing their acts, and instead hang out in a twee cottage or haul boxes around. They perform on tiny, tiny stages. I seriously have no idea what this circus could ever, ever do to be of interest. Blowing bubbles in colorful costumes is your great Valentine's Day act? Really?
This is part of what makes Hana's character so hard to root for - I have absolutely no idea why her circus ("circus?!") should succeed.
Beezus
February 13, 2015 at 5:18 PM
As I become more acclimated to kdramaland, I often see people mention that the scripts are being written during filming and how stressful it is for everyone involved. Can someone tell me why the system is this way? Why don't the shows use finished scripts before even beginning to shoot?
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 5:34 PM
As for the characters, since this is a romantic comedy, it will be funny if Hanna treats Seojin as if she is an animal tamer to trim off his sharp nails one by one. This can bring some circus element to light up the show. Hana is too serious and stiff at times. She needs to be lit up, more facial expressions, emotions, dialogue etc.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 6:04 PM
I predict that there will be a chaebol fight - even though the father is a cardboard character, the cousin is a buffoon, and the mother is probably off drinking in the corner - bc these characters are all there for a reason.
And, I also predict that there will have been some miscommunication or pettiness in childhood that will result in the cousin actually being responsible for Dr. YTJ's father's death and all his trauma. Once this comes out, GSJ and Robin will integrate and his life will move forward.
I don't also have a prediction about the event from 5 years ago - since we don't know what it is yet....
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 6:14 PM
A chaebol fight?! Oh, no, I can tolerate it if it is a side line but if it is the main line, I would cry me a river. Chaebol fight is no fun. Hmm, let's see. If GSJ presses a restart button and ends up in LA with Hana?
Let the cousin take all the blame? Ahh, if that is the case, it will be too easy. I hope not.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 7:35 PM
@ Miranda - you're pretty funny! :-) I really liked your comment. Especially the bit about the twee cottage. So spot on!
@Binnie and @Miranda - I've never seen Han Ji-Min in anything else. Have you? How was she?
KDaddict?JCW
February 14, 2015 at 6:44 PM
If you are doing a photo shoot then all you want is "beautiful" or a "fairytale look". But w dramas, you need to film it in such a way that draws viewers in, to whatever emotion is being depicted, whether it is sadness, excitement, or what nought.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM
just went for lunch......
hmm.......interesting, I thought director is the guy with the script in his hand that shouts "action" and "ng" lol.......(just kidding)
Yeah, I guess the director could have taken the steering wheel when the writer is lacking direction or maybe he is more of a collaborative type of person?
I have discussed pacing with other people and we agreed that it is ok if the pacing is slow but you have got to fill it with interesting dialogues and build the characters. Great plot and/or great characters. If you don't have either, you are in some big troubles.
Seriously, whoever green lit the project might have some explaining to do right now. Too bad.......
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Stardust
February 13, 2015 at 10:00 AM
My view is : indecisiveness of how to hook the viewers (let's get them to like haughty cowardly chaebol hyun bin and beautiful romantic scenes first vs the DID) in my opinion, 1st 3 episodes were all done wrong. They should have introduced the DID right from the start of ep1 and snippets on Seojins trauma. It's a much more attractive hook than cheesy CGI and the pretty scenes. Seojin was hard to like in ep1-2 whereas he could have been much more.
Now it looks like that they have a nice story plot to work with, but well sad to say, not much of an audience left.
The other thing that went wrong is the chemistry lacking between HJM and hyun bin. That's why the romantic com start did not fly. No sparks no heat between the 2. I see hyun bin trying to connect more than ha Ji min. Hence I'm sorry to say she is the weaker link. It's improving but way to late for some.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 10:19 AM
I came into the drama liking HJM from Rooftop. It is sad but there is not much character development in this drama. We know Hana is the ringmaster but we see the childish and weak side of her more often than the mature side. The strength of her role should radiate cuz she is the one to lead the circus and to pull Hyun Bin out of his misery. In their interaction, HJM does seem a little bit stiff, not sure if there is an issue with the script writer, the director, or how she interprets her role.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 10:24 AM
LOL, sorry. Of course you know what directing is! :-)
I agree with your comments about pacing - look at Secret Love Affair - that had super slow pacing and yet the characters were riveting. Of course, it also had an excellent plot.
I do like projects like this - I get all the fun of analyzing them. There is much to like and some things that don't work. And then there's figuring out how to fix them.
So, what would you do? If you could have a fairy wand and go back to the first episode - you have to use the elements that they already have, but you can tweak them - how would you lay out the plot and characters for the first 4 episodes?
susan
February 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
This comment is for Stardust -
I also agree that the chemistry isn't very strong between these two actors. That's, of course, the casting director's fault. Since we can't fix that, there's only performance to consider.
What would you do with the acting choices that HB and HJM made? How would you have them modify their characters to make them more interesting? How would you have them approach the characters to make the romance more interesting?
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Me? I am no script writer lol but if I could, I ought to start with Seojin waking up in cold sweat having a flashback of his friend asking him to save him and then black out, with Robin jumping in holding out the hand in angelic aura. If I understand it correctly, Seojin doesn't have the memory of leaving his friend behind. He'd like to go back in time to save him. Yeah, I agree with Stardust, should have started with DID's nightmare first so people would understand how the two roles came to be. Seojin is still the kid trying to kill himself on the bridge. I'd romanticize the scene Hana saved him more to lay down the foundation of their connection and love line.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM
Hmm...and the Hana and Seojin's childhood bond could be elaborated more. It's supernatural and very odd to have Seojin foreseeing Hana being in danger. How Seojin recognizes Hana should click with his childhood memory to make their bonding more natural. Hana lacks certain bright spots in her character for her to be memorable and liked. Her aspiration to be a ringmaster, to lead and to bring joy to children should be elaborated more. Her kindness and optimism should be portrayed more.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Yeah, I would have romanticize the rope scene more and put it in the childhood memory also. I do think the rope scene is doable but they need the right setting to make it more plausible so the setting should be changed a bit, like having a telephone line or something to hang onto. Seojin should have something to remember Hana, maybe a signature circus move, a line, an object. Something that clicks and brings back that warm fuzzy feeling.
hmm.....
susan
February 13, 2015 at 11:43 AM
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I like your idea! We get rid of the mystery between the characters right away - for the audience. Instead, we watch as the GSJ/Robin characters struggles and grows over 8 episodes as a romantic attachment begins to form.
Personally, I would like to have GSJ feel attraction long before JHN does. His internal struggle is far more interesting than hers.
Aside: Come to think of it - this is exactly why JHN isn't a compelling character. What's her internal anything? Making the Circus do well? Pfff! Then her motivation and GSJ's dad's motivation are the same: success in business. Which is why BOTH characters are so flat. Who cares? It's WHY someone does something, rather than what someone does, that is interesting. Yes, I realize that she feels a responsibility to the staff of the Circus and I realize that she grew up in Wonderland and has fond memories - but somehow neither the drama nor the character really makes me feel that. I know it intellectually, but I'm not made to care.
Once we got to about episode 6, I'd like to have GSJ give into his emotions but be conflicted about whether its a good idea. Hence romantic comedy~
susan
February 13, 2015 at 11:44 AM
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Someone forgot to develop her character full stop!
susan
February 13, 2015 at 11:49 AM
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Well, there's just been a plainly weird evolution of the Circus from the first episode.
Back then, they had animals, now they have none. JHN may have done Cirque de Soleil, but the Circus staff had not - it takes a while to develop those skills. Robin had acrobatic skills in the first episode - now he's just moody. JHN was busy wandering around on zip lines the first episode, but by the chandelier falling episode, she's apparently unable to do any gymnastics to move out of the way....
Now everyone just wanders around looking emo....
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 12:01 PM
Yeah, there are a lot of holes in the story, if we dig deeper, we might end up on the other side of the earth lol. They really need to do some homework to add in the details of how a circus is run to make it more believable and earn respect for Hana. Right now it is just bones but no meat. If I remember it right, Misaeng's author did a 3-year research on corporate work before writing his piece. Details really make the difference.....
I'd really want Hana to be a soldier not a princess in Robin's arms. Everyone has his or her own battle to fight......
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM
@ Susan, yeah, GSJ should be the one falling for Hana first. Hana should be a little sun flower radiating confidence, perseverance, and optimism for GSJ. Hana could have her doubts and uncertainty moments but in general but her character should be a positive one.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 12:23 PM
Now that we are talking about it, I am a little angry at the script writer for not even trying, trying to make the circus more functional, try to build Hana's character, try to knit the plot tighter......sigh*
susan
February 13, 2015 at 12:37 PM
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3 years of research sounds about right. We're at year 1.5 on one of my projects now and we'll get a bunch of interns to help finish it. My poor writers about die with the amount of background I insist on. It makes projects better both for the audience and commercially, though.
I really like your thought about the circus - if that had been made a focal point of JHN's story - and a separate story had been made for GSJ and his struggles, complete with flashbacks to his trauma - then I would be engaged and rooting for all.
Also, Robin having some involvement with the Circus would also present him as a credible contender in the three way relationship. He wouldn't just be a nice guy, he'd be someone who shared her hardships. GSJ would be someone who shared her past (bridge incident - bc it was the scared and sad little boy who mesmerized her at the bridge in the first place.) All of this would make for a really interesting tug.
In fact, I could do without the whole Dr. YTJ plot. I'd rather just have GSJ's interaction with his parents, JHN's struggle with the circus, a three way love triangle and the fear of both men that they could lose her if GSJ / Robin was ever healed. That's far more angsty than the current plot.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 12:37 PM
Hahahahaha! You and I wrote at the same time with the same thoughts! :-)
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 12:54 PM
@Susan, Wow, it's nice to have some professional opinions on this drama. Actually what you said was what I expected from the drama in the first place. Seriously, since the author has already made him the villain, I pray he does some background research on hypnotizing, brainwashing, mental hacking, DID or whatever it is to make it real. We already have a lame ringmaster. If Dr. Yoon comes out as a laughing stock, it will be disastrous.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 1:10 PM
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Actually, it's your opinions that I'm really grateful for! When you live in the creative bubble, it's really really nice to see what fans think. Especially engaged ones. This is some really good brainstorming! I think they should hire us to plot out the rest of the show! :-)
So, in that vein, leaving all the previous episodes just as they've been.... what would you do to make the next two episodes into something compelling?
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 4:01 PM
@ Susan,
For the next two episodes, I think Dr. Yoon is about to plant a false memory of the perpetrator's face in Hana's mind to confuse her but when Robin comes along, he will discover Robin's feelings towards Hana.
Dr. Yoon, from his point of view, he doesn't think Seojin gives a damn about him and has already moved on. He probably thinks material success is most important for Seojin. Dr. Yoon almost sees everything in God's perspective. He has Dr. Kang's files, knows Seojin's DID condition and Robin. Dr. Yoon has several choices: to destroy Seojin's career by revealing his underlying condition (he will probably trigger Seojin to go into stress mode and release Robin, it will be interesting if Robin messes up like what he did five years ago), to annihilate Seojin completely, to hurt Seojin/Robin by destroying Hana's mind. I don't mind Dr. Yoon brings all hell loose as long as the plot makes sense. Robin could pop in and out to add surprises and mess up with Dr. Yoon's plot. With Robin coming into the scene, I think Dr. Yoon will wait a bit to figure out the situation and give Seojin the worst hit.
In the mean time, I would like to see Hana redeeming herself with a successful valentine event, showcasing her creative side and to deal with troubles caused by Seojin's cousin? (Let's put him to good use besides being a complete joke) As Hana and the Seojin/Robin's relationship continues to develop, through her lense, the author should give us a more complete picture of why Seojin is the way he is and his internal struggles.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 4:15 PM
I have never read the actual book Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but watched the movie (though others said it was not faithful to the book and did not do justice). It seems like Dr. Jekyll is the nice guy doing whatever he is supposed to do to fit the mold society cuts out for him and suppresses his frustrations that later manifests as the evil Mr. Hyde. This drama is the exact opposite which is interesting. Seojin is the one suppressing his desire to love and be loved because of his father. Seojin's relationship with his father, his rebellion to break free, acceptance and final reunion with Robin should be the center piece. I really wish this personal empowerment journey is well put together and carries through till the end.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 5:16 PM
Yeah, the script writer and director could have made the episodes more fluid. A lot of people feel the gorilla, zip line, jumping off the building, circus chandelier scenes are too fake. These scenes can be made real.......instead of doing a King Kong scene, the director can do a Christian the lion reunion scene, they can show how Hana sets up her zip line gears, they can show Hana noticing there is a pond beside the building while setting up the zip line and deliberately leads Dr. Yoon to the balcony, they could have shown the accident from Hana's view, how she was immobilized by fear with the sight of the perpetrator.............but they didn't. If these scenes are handled well, it won't be this incredulous. Now, they are like truncated fragments that turn audiences off.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 5:32 PM
Binnie,
So, is this what you think the current show will do, or what you would do?
If you're right and Dr. YTJ outs GSJ, then the psychological underpinnings of the show will take second place to the political.
My fear is that the current show will turn into a chaebol fight over a company - a non-interesting event as far as the characters goes. Am I really meant to care weather GSJ is working so hard to succeed bc he wants to prove himself to his ridiculous father or bc said father will cut him off if he doesn't succeed? I can't think of any other motivators and those are pretty thin. Let's face it: GSJ could support himself as a biz exec anywhere and Robin as an artist. Pleasing dad seems almost silly at this point given the general antipathy GSJ has toward him. So, why should I care about a chaebol fight? (Granted, the cousin is hilarious - and belongs in a comedy.)
The show itself is setting up some mental anguish with Dr. YTJ, so I imagine that it will try to create some emotional blackmail to make all the characters move.
If this were my show, I would do a flashback to everyone's roles as kids: Dr. YTJ, GSJ, and the cousin. I would do this through the mother's eyes. I would do the appearance of Robin and the way the mom actually liked him at first. I would introduce the GSJ's secretary Kwon young-Chan as a quasi friend of Robin's. I would then fast forward to the event from 5 years ago that has everyone treating Robin as an a*****e. I would set this up as a proper misunderstanding between GSJ's family and his split personality. I would also develop the emotions of little GSJ - so that we can how hard it was to cope as events unfolded.
Meanwhile, I would do the same for JHN. I would show her background - her emotions that brought her to the bridge - and I would do this through the eyes of the guy with the house out in the country - someone who would have known her as a kid.
But, how to stick this in? Hers might be able to come up in a session with Dr. YTJ. Not sure why he would go there... he doesn't know she's a trigger for GSJ and doesnt' know the childhood connection to Robin.
I guess the flashback for GSJ could come from a conversation between the secretary and mom.
And then I guess we also need a flashback to the history of Dr. YTJ. This might also come from mom as well.
I think I would spend all of episode 9 on this with some light plot around it and then move on with the show on a more solid footing.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 5:48 PM
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Yes, I agree. We need need JHN's back story with the circus and her childhood to make up for the lack of anything particularly compelling in her current story! And, clearly, she has one. Circus performing is cool!!
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 5:55 PM
Up to now, GSJ's mother is almost non-existent. Her character didn't make any impression on me. I think she is just a rich housewife that would obey every single word her husband says. A weak mother and a tyrannizing father are what got Seojin into his current state. I doubt his mother would be able to do anythings that can help GSJ out unless Dr. Yoon forced GSJ into suicidal depression and Robin couldn't come out. Then the mother may have a reason to stand up for her son and confront the father. She would rather have Robin than have a dead body. Come to think about it, I think it is a pretty good idea to then have the mother do a flashback at this point.
Yeah, I don't think there will be a chaebol fight because the cousin is quite pathetic (in a funny way). The author is inclined to do a psych warfare. I think it will be interesting but there is also risk involved. For the regular joe, I hope they don't make it incredulous like they messed up the previous scenes.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 6:04 PM
I predict that there will be a chaebol fight – even though the father is a cardboard character, the cousin is a buffoon, and the mother is probably off drinking in the corner – bc these characters are all there for a reason.
And, I also predict that there will have been some miscommunication or pettiness in childhood that will result in the cousin actually being responsible for Dr. YTJ’s father’s death and all his trauma. Once this comes out, GSJ and Robin will integrate and his life will move forward.
I don’t also have a prediction about the event from 5 years ago – since we don’t know what it is yet….
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 6:24 PM
The event from five years ago, I think it is about a woman that both SJ and Robin fell for. The father talked about it with the secretary/mother. And SJ is very cautious near women. From the news back in December last year, there was something about inviting an actress to cast as a beautiful psychiatrist (SJ's first love). I personally don't like SJ's first love to come between him and Hana cuz their love line hasn't even started yet. I am more worried about this first love plot. It is so overused. What a bummer............
susan
February 13, 2015 at 6:39 PM
Really??? Wow... The biggest problem I see with the show so far is that it's too muddy - there are way too many
unknowns floating out there.
You can have a bunch of unknowns as long as you resolve them along the way. See: Birth of a Beauty. That show had lots of unknowns, but regularly dealt with them. (It also had a chaebol fight and some random baddies - actually the same baddies - but these events really only served to serve character growth between the two leads.)
Adding an old girlfriend .... you're right, the foreshadowing is there... but it's just another layer of unexplained stuff.
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Wow... just wow...
Okay, I'm at a loss. Suggestions?
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 7:34 PM
I think the problem with this show is all the ingredients are there but the chief just leaves them cold on the stove and doesn't turn the fire on.........
I was talking about the "old girlfriend" with other HJM fans. All of us got turned off by the idea. It is too simple and predictable. I beg the new author, please forget about this idea. I think what the author was thinking was, SJ and Hana got off to a rough start, now they kind of have some understanding of each other, SJ somehow got his heart beating for her, to confirm Hana's feelings, this "old girlfriend" will pop up to make her jealous and admit she has fallen for SJ. Robin, Old girlfriend, and the gorilla are all little cupids firing love arrows to connect the two of them together.
Wow, I hope I am wrong about this.
susan
February 13, 2015 at 8:05 PM
For Binnie:
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I hope you're wrong, too! That would be trite.
Do you have a link about the new writer? I couldn't find it on a web search. Btw - how awful must it be to come in and write mid series? It takes time to get familiar with a story bible and produce a credible story arc. Even if you use what's there, finding a comfort with the characters (what hasn't been shown on screen) is challenging. I write very very quickly and I don't think I could pop out two hours of script every week - much less do it on command in the middle of a show that I only maybe saw a few episodes of.... that's a feat!
Look at the mess that the new writer of Secret Hotel got into - a show that was nearly perfect for the first 4 episodes lost its writer to cancer and had to replace her. The show floundered almost immediately. This isn't really the fault of the new writer - there just wasn't time to get into the rhythm and characters of such a clever show on short notice. It was a Herculean task.
So, while a new writer for this show might mix things up, they've still got to work with what came before.
Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 8:20 PM
It was a rumour so I am not sure if it is true. I found it in the forum. SBS management changed the author without making it public. I'd do the same to keep it secret. As you said, it is not easy, the damage has been done, and the reputation of the new author can get tarnished if it doesn't turn out well.
Khule WY
February 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM
@binnie lol at the director joke, I remembered that director from secret garden shouting "Action"," NG iyya"heh.
Khule WY
February 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM
I don't know what it is,all I know is that,it's not Hyun bin.
I liked the fact that we had no idea it was tae joo,atleast I didn't and how it was revealed was pretty good. But for the rest, hmm let's blame whoever thought of the big butt gorilla. Jk.
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3 Wonbinie
February 12, 2015 at 8:32 PM
Thanks for still recapping this show. I stop watching after episode 2, but continue to read your recap waiting for good moments come.
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4 Seyi Akinyode
February 12, 2015 at 8:48 PM
The first time I watched ep 1. I had a moment of epiphany that it was Sung joon. But changed my mind like nah...
I feel like I just switched last minute, the last two digits of a winning lottery ticket.
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5 sancheezy
February 12, 2015 at 8:56 PM
this fast pace made me think they kind of cut some ep, like fast forwarding to 10 ep script
This is a good things but still the DID is only Seo-Jin fight, so Hana character wasn't needed at all if Dr. Psychiatris is wanted to revenge... she just happen to be the plot device, she need to spice up or being conscious of what happen rather than just fall in love and can't choose between the guy
I liked the mystery but I think the love part is not what the show need most,
but then, by knowing the real one culprit this early (ep 8 with 1 ep to total knowing his story) I am afraid of getting total bored again by how they can't see the clue about who is the bad guy and what is their plan when they're busy wanted to make the OTP fall in love
or have no hints or clues to offer for the viewer when it obvious now who is who, the DID (even the way it cause it is weird enough but still in logic boundary),
I still have hope, and the dr, is the only think that totally good for me despite all the ep
but please don't make the over power villain by plot got weak by falling in love with Hana
some tricky mind to overpower him will be good
and I keep getting bored of Robin (that's why I think the DID element is just like a background)
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susan
February 13, 2015 at 9:15 AM
That is an interesting thought. I was wondering why the villain reveal was so early. I would have liked to see the love story between GSJ and JHN develop prior to this. However, the plot structure may have been modified due to fan feedback. There was A LOT of clamoring for Dr. YTJ to have a bigger role. They may well have moved episode 10 elements forward in time.
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6 natsume_7610
February 12, 2015 at 8:57 PM
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alpha
February 13, 2015 at 1:30 AM
Ouch that hurts my eyes.
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Lizzy4e
February 13, 2015 at 6:41 AM
hard to read
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Miranda
February 13, 2015 at 11:37 AM
Is this a ransom note?
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jomo143
February 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM
Maybe that is why SJ's Dad wouldn't negotiate. He couldn't read the note!!
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blszin
February 14, 2015 at 1:10 PM
@jomo hahahaahaha lmafao :D I hope youre right! that would be soooo funny. PD and Wirter be like: " oh well show cant be helped any more, might as well fuck it up really hard."
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Petmink
February 15, 2015 at 6:30 PM
Now everything makes sense :)
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Khule WY
February 15, 2015 at 3:39 PM
BWAHAHAAAAA This is so funny, I almost peed on myself.I'll never forget this,I have to find someone to show this so we can laugh together.
#flatlining
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7 czak
February 12, 2015 at 8:59 PM
Was disappointed when Sung Joon was cast as 2nd lead. not another doctor 2nd lead who has unrequited love with the girl. i thought he is sadly underused for his talent. so now with the twist, i am happy. At least talent wise, the cast perfectly. Sung joon is doing a great job at playing taejoo...
but really show. Why do they have to wait for 8 episode for the reveal? Its like a premeditated fireworks that just lost its luster with the bang... urghhh...
anyway i am loving seojin more and more....!!!!
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8 Sim
February 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM
Arg! I'm so conflicted!
On the one hand, I am in love with Sung Joon and therefore in my mind any person with his face is doing the right thing.
On the other hand, Hyun Bin..............
I think I'm gonna abdicate for this one.
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9 Natalie
February 12, 2015 at 9:13 PM
How does it usually work in terms of ratings? Can a slow starter pick up and become more successful?
I'm now anticipating the final showdown between Seo-Jin and Soo-Hyun. It must be one crazy intense scene given both Hyun Bin and Sung Joon ability to act.
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10 Sm
February 12, 2015 at 9:29 PM
Uhhh, I don't know, guys. Plot is always more welcome than no plot, but I actually had started enjoying the cotton candy fluff moments and the rom com bickering that made the last few episodes an easy watch. The main problem for me is that I don't find Sung Joon persuasive at all as a murderer or attempted murderer. His surprised face at the end, as you can see in the screen cap, looks like a kid's with no menace or darkness. And it doesn't help that next to out-of-the-Marines Hyun Bin, the unfortunate picture I get is that, if at any moment, Tae-joo became a threat, Seo-jin/Robin could physically overpower him in two seconds - which is kind of what happened the first time they met on the rooftop.
I'm glad Sung Joon is pushing himself as an actor instead of sticking to the romantic lead roles, but it's not working for me here.
That said, I'm still finding the show entertaining. Thank you for the recap!
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Sm
February 12, 2015 at 9:32 PM
PS The head detective and the scheming chaebol cousin are the stealing the show. Their interactions are hilarious!
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Mwoya
February 12, 2015 at 9:43 PM
"His surprised face at the end, as you can see in the screen cap, looks like a kid’s with no menace or darkness". Because he's still a kid. A young boy I mean. I wonder why his agency again let him star as a character that much older than he is. I think he suits his age's roles more. Before it was with Eric and now Hyun Bin..XD
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11 sparkle
February 12, 2015 at 9:36 PM
I have always been skeptical of Dr. TJ because when he was bringing Hana back into her memories, during the hypnosis therapyies, he would always wake her up right before she can see the strangler's face. He also doesn't try to help her win over her fears so that she can see her assailant's face in her memories. He just seemed too passive when treating Hana.
The twist was nice. I wasn't expecting that. I hope that this drama just gets better and better from here on out. I want to know how TJ escaped. Did he hypnotized the kidnapper in order to escape? LOL. Or, did the kidnapper raised him in such a cruel way, that makes him grow up hating SJ? Ahhh.. Interesting. Hahah.
Fighting!!! ;-)
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12 August
February 12, 2015 at 9:41 PM
Thanks for the recap Girlfriday. Totally agree with you that episodes 7 & 8 really helped the pieces of the puzzle start to fit and make sense. Definitely looking forward to seeing how the Seo-Jin/Robin vs. Tae-Joo dynamic continues to unfold and develop. Their backstory, the kidnapping trauma which both boys survived, and the answers to the mystery of what the adults/parents did to set all this in motion.
Too bad right out of the starting gate Hyde Jekyll, Me faltered and fumbled in some areas like it did. Still, why are the ratings for HJM as low as they are when one considers that Diary of A Night Watchman was pretty much known for its shortcomings but still managed to score decent enough ratings?
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pigsnout
February 13, 2015 at 12:23 AM
Short answer to the ratings question: the dramas airing against NWJ were worse and more nonsensical. That is not the case here.
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Woo
February 13, 2015 at 6:36 AM
Are you sure? As I remember The Night Watchman against Temptation (Kwon Sang Woo and Choi Ji Woo) and Discovery of Romance (Eric and Jung Yoo Mi) who are known better actors, great chemistry and solid story line. Everybody knows how crazy bad The Night Watchman. That's why even though the ratings was pretty good they didn't even get recognized in any critics or awards. As I remember only Jung Il Woo got one award from the station. Sometimes ratings is the matter of luck. So we do really need to distinguish good quality of drama and good ratings of drama.
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tee
February 13, 2015 at 12:20 PM
True, luck plays a role.
The blatant truth about HJ&I low ratings is just that the story sucked for the first 6 episodes. Even these last 2 though the best so far are not fantastic compared to other shows.
This week, even with the uptick, they are last against a Drama Special!!!!!
Terrible
hope dramaland starts paying more attention to plot instead of star actors
Poor Binnie
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Woo
February 13, 2015 at 6:25 PM
The changing plot suddenly makes me confuse and seems so unnatural. Why not just take from the original one, Hyde and Jekyl personally conflicts. It will be much much better. Villain role would be too much. And I'm pretty sure it directs to the irrational story later on...
13 Sam
February 12, 2015 at 9:44 PM
Thank you so much for the excellent recap! You guys do such an amazing job and I can always ...ALWAYS!...count on you all to explain details I was unsure of or missed completely! . Keep up the great work! I am your fan!
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14 wackycashew
February 12, 2015 at 9:59 PM
Thanks for the recap, GF!
Whoa... Another unexpected twist to really get at the meatier part of this drama now. With the fake Soo Hyun being identified by Seung Yeon (gasp), it was easy to guess that Tae Joo is the real Soo Hyun. Thank God Dr. Kang is alive! Makes me really curious what happened to Soo Hyun after not being able to escape from the kidnapper.
It was good to see Seo Jin letting his guard down and showing some vulnerability to Hana. I hope he won't pull back anymore and drop his cold facade so he can truly experience life and be happy the way Robin has been able to.
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15 Rowanmdm
February 12, 2015 at 10:12 PM
I just want to point out how nice it is to have a detective in a supporting role who is actually competent. So often in this type of show we get cops who are either corrupt or bunglers, so having the detective be moral and competent has been wonderful, and his hilarious interactions with everyone are just icing on the cake!
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Lizzy4e
February 13, 2015 at 6:40 AM
Yes! His reaction with the secretary was trying to seduce him was so funny.
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16 dramaqueen4
February 12, 2015 at 10:12 PM
I like the reveal about Tae Joo and I'm hoping SJ gets more screen time. I think he makes a great villain. He's got that look-up-from-under-your-eyebrows glare down pat. I also miss the non-"Because of You" music again this week.
But his hypnosis method had me laughing really hard in this episode. Maybe it's because I played those string games as a kid, but it just seems so implausible. Cat's cradle and Jacob's ladder! Everybody run!
Still, I'm liking it. I always cheer for the underdog. Even if it was hyped in the beginning. :)
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Kim
February 13, 2015 at 7:12 AM
Yes! When he hypnotized the doctor itch the string I laughed out loud!
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17 Mandy
February 12, 2015 at 10:25 PM
Woah! Never thought I'd describe this drama as riveting - but there we have it. I loved yesterday's episode and was hoping the quality keeps improving but this is a whole 'nother level. I love it!
I'm firstly relieved that Sung Joon is getting a fabulous character to play. He's too talented to be wasted like he had been for the past 3 weeks. The evil glint and that maniac eyes is creepy and chill-inducing which I never expected from someone who's always played the lovely male/second male lead. Tae-joo is as scary as a villian gets, specially when he has everyone's trust. He can make every character dance to his tunes and there's nothing more dangerous than that. I also love what GF said about Tae-joo measuring himself at a moral compass. It most definitely felt that way which is why I'm already excited for the moment when the complete truth is out.
Other than the fabulous reveal, I'm also loving how much Robin actually cares for Seo-jin. It felt so in episode 7 as well, but now with Hana's encouragement, he's reaching out with urgency. I know Robin is the nicer guy inside the hard shell, but he always seems to be defending, encouraging and even rooting for Seo-jin. I do hope when we reach the climax of the love triangle, it will be Robin that decides to step down for Seo-jin's sake.
Truthfully, I wish the two characters were really just twins because Hyun Bin's chemistry with Hyun Bin is probably the best thing about this drama. Now we have Sung Joon in the mix and things are finally clicking together. If only they revealed this early on instead of the Gorilla-hunt or Save-circus campaign, then they'd certainly have more viewers sticking around. I'm glad I did, because now I have a reason not named Hyun Bin to look forward to.
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chris
February 16, 2015 at 7:41 AM
a+ to the hyun bin's comment. don't really care about the romance, but more how is the personality disorder is going to be solved and that storyline with dr evil.
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18 Valerie Gudorf
February 12, 2015 at 10:26 PM
I hate to admit it, but Tae Joo really had me fooled, even though some Dramabeaners had early on suggested that he might be the villain. He was just so good, with those beautifully innocent brown eyes of his, at throwing everyone off his scent trail. And I guess I really just didn't want to see Sung Joon play such a baddy, though I can see why, from an acting standpoint, he might like to stretch his boundaries. I guess I was hoping the cousin (weak and rather comically ineffectual as he is) was the heavy. Tae Joo/Soo Hyun is certainly a few fries short of a Happy Meal, but given that he and Seo Jin were once just ordinary childhood besties, one has to wonder why and how he became so disturbingly unhinged. Why does he blame Seo Jin for the fact that he couldn't escape? We see that Soo Hyun had let Seo Jin stand on his shoulders in order to reach the window, and see Seo Jin trying to pull Soo Hyun up toward the window when the kidnapper busted through their makeshift barricade. There just had not been enough time, and Seo Jin, being only a small boy himself, simply did not have enough physical strength to hoist his friend up and through the window also. So why does Soo Hyun accuse Seo Jin by saying, "He knows what he did."? Is it simply the fact that Seo Jin had to leave his friend behind in order to escape himself? There still seem to be a lot of facts surrounding the kidnapping that have yet to come to light. Soo Hyun keeps talking about what he needs to do in order that he and Seo Jin can "reconcile". What's that all about?
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19 m
February 12, 2015 at 10:29 PM
ahh ya, shit just got real yo!
(but seriously) I'm equal parts happy and sad with this development... I really liked Tae-joo but up till now he's been a totally wasted character.
"Timing aside, I liked the way his character was handled, because I found his hypnosis skills equal parts frightening and cool, and every time I thought he might be a bad guy, he did something to regain my trust and keep the investigation on track."
"And the constant turtlenecks were a nice touch, though I never thought anything of it. The creepiest part is that he’s keeping Dr. Kang in his own house, like he’s getting a thrill out of hiding her right under everyone’s noses. *shudder*"
As usual I totally agree with GF.
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20 Valerie Gudorf
February 12, 2015 at 10:32 PM
Dramaqueen4 said, "But his hypnosis method had me laughing really hard in this episode. Maybe it’s because I played those string games as a kid, but it just seems so implausible. Cat’s cradle and Jacob’s ladder! Everybody run!"
Ha, ha! that was pretty funny, wasn't it? He did it in such a menacing way, and the Dr. looked scared to death, but I didn't get the impression he was trying to hypnotize her. I also think it would have been difficult to hypnotize a psychiatrist that knows all the ropes as far as hypnotic suggestion is concerned. What would he have been trying to do by hypnotizing her? Make her believe she never needed to go to the bathroom, wash, or eat?
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dramaqueen4
February 12, 2015 at 11:06 PM
True. Intimidation tactic, if you will. I referred it to as his hypnosis method because I seem to remember him using it in a session with Ha Na? Could be wrong. Oh well.
But seriously. The way this guy is busting out the random string games calls for a spin-off. Cat's Cradle Hustle with Tae Joo.
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sancheezy
February 13, 2015 at 5:22 AM
wait, I remember that some still argue that hypnotists method can make someone believe they have alter personality and use to make some unbelievable story about DID...hmmm
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21 stars4u
February 12, 2015 at 10:34 PM
I was wondering why they cast Sung Joon just to play a small role but BAM! Well that was unexpected!
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22 Serena
February 12, 2015 at 10:57 PM
Boring since I already predicted from the beginning about Tae Joo and his capability to hipnotize. Not a fan of Sung Joon cause IMO he tried too hard which makes uncomfortable to watch.
Okay, I think I give up...
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23 J
February 13, 2015 at 12:11 AM
Wow..Taejoo twist..loved it..feeling lively
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24 yumii
February 13, 2015 at 12:20 AM
Thanks for the recap.
"But obviously she underestimated Tae-joo’s lack of marbles."
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25 Ashley
February 13, 2015 at 1:41 AM
Thanks for the recap! Love this episode.
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26 aco
February 13, 2015 at 2:00 AM
Had the same thought... if they just had taken the ridiculousness down in the first three or four ep and instead had relied more on the story and the actors ability to capture the audience they will have had a much better result.. I felt the last three ep were really good and I'm glad that I stuck around...
Gorilla really LOL that how you start your drama ahhh they gut to close to the sun and burned themselves..
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Khule WY
February 13, 2015 at 6:00 AM
I was thinking the same thing, why lead with the gorilla when you have this amazingness waiting to happen. Loyal Hyun bin fans are really getting rewarded.
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Binnie
February 13, 2015 at 7:50 AM
hahaha, I gotta say the gorilla thing is not that bad plot-wise but it is sad how the CG made it look like King Kong instead of the touching reunion between Christian the lion and the owners.
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Khule WY
February 15, 2015 at 3:54 PM
Yes, the gorilla isn't bad plotwise but it felt out of this world and while it was running around all I kept thinking was 'That gorilla has a HUGE butt ' Lol.
And it's easier to pick on the gorilla since I can't pinpoint this shows fault. As for the chemistry between the leads,it's not healer great,it's just there meh. Better with Seo jin than Robin, how I don't know when it's the same person. But honestly, I'm mostly looking at Robin, Hana could be a rock and I'd still think it's ok.ps. that kiss, terrible.park shin hye 2.O has been born.it would have been better if they didn't kiss.it has already been proven that holding hands and eating toast is more sizzling.
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27 Woo
February 13, 2015 at 2:21 AM
Where HJM is struggling with intensity of hypnotize and twist plot, KMHM is being busy with the rap battle between the leads…bwahahaha… Just imagine how it would be if Seo Jin-Robin meet Shin Se Gi- Yo Na. I'm sure Ahn Yo Na will jump and start screaming"oppa…Robin oppa.." XD
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28 dilo
February 13, 2015 at 2:39 AM
I can't take much more of this not even to kill time...i find myself getting really annoyed with long boring scenes *caugh robin----hana ones caugh* following the ridiculous and incompetence of the entire circus team blabbling about the cirque but we see nothing. The side story lines are not compelling i have no words for the chaebol daddy the line sucks big time plus very predictable twist i assumed from the beginning taejoo was the villain so no shocking revelation ◔_◔ (rolling eyes) the writing is filled with holes the characters are shallow ohh like hana she always puts me to sleep when she starts talking........my conclusion sorry drama i'm out.
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29 es
February 13, 2015 at 2:45 AM
FINALLYYY Sung Joon!! Why did it take eight episodes to get to this point omfg :( I'm a lot more interested now, if only because of Tae-joo, who's the best type of villain - creepy, fascinating AND smart. Hopefully the story starts moving along more in the next few episodes now that we know who the main baddie is.....and hopefully the romance becomes more appealing too because I'm STILL not onboard with this couple and their scenes really do nothing for me except bore me a lot. :(
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blszin
February 14, 2015 at 1:30 PM
"creepy, fascinating AND smart" and hot, you forgot hot.
I luuuv me some good-looking superintelligent psycho :D
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30 Kimchi
February 13, 2015 at 3:31 AM
I think Detective Na's got to my favourite supporting role policeman because he's not dumb and useless (like most other dramas HEH)
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31 iheartbusterk
February 13, 2015 at 4:06 AM
I KNEW it! From the second that he first appeared on screen I KNEW that Tae Joo was up to no good. There was something just sooooo creepy about his introduction and he was just too nice. It also retroactively makes all of his hypnosis work with Ha Na the epitome of creepy.
Also he seriously expects Seo Jin to remember every second of his kidnapping ordeal, especially when it's entirely possible that those memories may be locked away to the Robin side? ARGH!!!!!
Woo Jung needs to wake up and smell the cutie (the actor is way too young for me, but he has such a great smile) who's obviously totally head over heels for her. Robin is clearly giving off "he's just not that into you" vibes to her and she STILL insists on being all moony over him.
I hope that when Robin and Seo Jin finally merge back together (which 100% has to be the end game for this drama) that 'together' Seo Jin smiles as much as Robin does because it makes him beyond adorable.
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32 cloud9
February 13, 2015 at 4:19 AM
They should've revealed this plot development earlier on instead of focusing on unnecessary cheesisness.
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33 alienshore
February 13, 2015 at 4:37 AM
This show is still just not good. But at least now there is a legitimate bad guy AND more importantly I understand why Sung Joon (a leading man) would take a role that seemed so far beneath him. He wanted to test his bad buy chops.
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34 Maggie
February 13, 2015 at 4:38 AM
The past 8 weeks I've been watching it for the cast, but next week, I can also watch it for the story! How exciting!
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35 kobrakiddo
February 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM
AWWWWW YIIISSSSS Sung Joon is a baddie! :3 Why am I so thrilled haha! At least he doesn't get wasted in this show anymore :D
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36 whitewire
February 13, 2015 at 5:44 AM
Super great drama. Thank you for the recap. Thank you Hyde cast and crew! Immensely enjoying this drama!!!
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Khule WY
February 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM
Yessssssssss, we are.
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Dani305
February 15, 2015 at 4:28 PM
Agreed, what a great drama to start off the new year!
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37 Lizzy4e
February 13, 2015 at 6:34 AM
hahaha well that was certainly a twist! Sung Joon is not wasting his time after all.
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38 KJD
February 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM
Should have known SJ was a baddie. He was wearing the baddie uniform the whole time. Black, gray, turtle necks, and always being there at the crucial moments. Not to mention that yeah, what a waste of an actor if his role wasn't important.
Still I hope there's more to the trama(s) than "You didn't come back for me you spoiled, cowardly chaebol." and "I couldn't save my friend."
Maybe the story could be more dark, say if TJ became SJ's Dr. after Dr. K went missing and was torturing him via "treatment?" If all TJ wants is acknowledgement and an apology, then why not just attack him outright when he's alone? I jope TJ wants to take down SJ's Dad too.
I guess I'm just wallowing b/c I love a great, hot, bad guy.
I also hope Hana can step it up because I wouldn't tell her my secret DID at this point either Robin. She's nice, but still doesn't seem engaged in the real world or a strong enough support to handle something heavy like DID. Plus, her romantic interest comes off as schoolgirl-ish and not a mature, romantic longing of an woman.
D.I.D- I especially like that he only has one alter and that there's a very clear reason behind his genesis as opposed to KMHM which I also like, but think they might have fractured CDH a bit too much. It's easier to believe that a merge of personalities can occur with only one other alter. I'm looking forward to see how both shows restore the leads to wholeness.
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Alessar
February 13, 2015 at 8:36 AM
I think they did a good job throwing us off the trail - he even got hit by the "baddie" once right? That's what made me start questioning he was really behind things. Still, if I had been there at the police station I would have ripped the neck of his shirt right down and looked for a burn scar.
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sancheezy
February 13, 2015 at 9:58 PM
I am sorry to comment about DID
because being only total separate as 2 (main and alter) in people is the most impossible one
even in Hyde and Jekyll novel, it because he drink a potion
DID made people separate themselves and then the only dominant alter is the one that often appear, doesn't have to be 1, but more often the alter can control other alter
there's more not dominant alter that appear but only with limited
DID isn't about being bad or being good but being a new soul and new purpose, outside the main personality
not only an alter from anger or to take pain but to have joy
that's why it strange if the alter that deal with pain also want to have joy and become so happy (not impossible)
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39 kobrakiddo
February 13, 2015 at 8:10 AM
The ending.. when Sungjoon's all dressed in black with that black-rim glasses and cap on, he looked pretty much like how Healer would be like if he was a villain. HAHA *chuckles* Maybe I'm still having withdrawals from the show. Hot baddie ftw! :D
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40 Alessar
February 13, 2015 at 8:35 AM
Aha! Called it. So it turned out that the confession in ep 7 was actually the swerve! Just when I started to think it was a mess the little hints resolved themselves unexpectedly with the sudden revelation that Glasses Stranger had been brainwashed into thinking he was someone else. Suddenly we've gone from "messy" to "deftly executed." I still feel the show is floundering in the relationship area but hopefully a stronger villain plot will help stabilize it.
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41 ramona
February 13, 2015 at 9:06 AM
Plot twist or not (even though many predicted that sung joon was the culprit) this drama is booooriiiing.....the story is not a bit interesting and i find myself skipping a lot of scenes And Still i see no chemistry even though i like both leads. Im officialy out of this boat!
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Woo
February 13, 2015 at 6:18 PM
I think they change the plot due to ratings that's why it seems so suddenly someone become villain aka Tae Joo. But the way they push him as villain is so unnatural.
It will be much better if they use one part of Hyun Bin as totally the villain one (the worst, the better) and another part is the good one. It will provide more fan service for Hyun Bin's fans rather than boring romance or suddenly villain role appeared.
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sancheezy
February 13, 2015 at 10:01 PM
and I afraid about the over power villain, like he is a psychiatris that can hypnosis and knowing about the future also the bad guy
he hold all the card and it just strange
and I can't even imagine if he fall for Hana suddenly and he became good at the end - it total disaster for me
come on.......
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sancheezy
February 13, 2015 at 10:01 PM
not the future, I mean the past
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42 bbeth
February 13, 2015 at 9:08 AM
I wondered how effectively the drama would use Robin vs Seo-jin. I mean, Jekyll/Hyde worked because Mr. Hyde was crazzzzzy and wreaked havoc while Jekyll tried to fix it (in the classic literature). And it makes sense that the antagonist is extra scary (to the audience & hero) when the very person you're trying to stop is yourself, and you don't know when it will come out, etc etc.
Robin being the alter-ego made me wonder - what can he do? I mean - Robin abides by the rules, covers for Seo-jin, has fun, saves people, etc and it doesn't hurt Seo-jin in anyway other than maybe being tired from not sleeping? Maybe some danger of getting hurt as he cosplays a superhero? There would not be any plot movement! But in this episode, it's a bit more promising....if Seo-jin is the one who knows more stuff, but Robin is the one going around pushing people's buttons by confessing his love, or becoming well known, or showing up at Tae-joo's house unawares of the past.
It also sets up the 'saving people part' perfectly because Dr. Kang, who Seo-jin wants, needs the very saving that Robin does!
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43 Yahoo
February 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM
One of the very boring drama that I ever watched.
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44 Stardust
February 13, 2015 at 9:38 AM
Is it just me? But I did really like the conversation between robin and seojin. It was a great touch to explain that seojin created robin all just to survive, yet he is miserable so what's the point. And robin says all he needs to do is help me. It's nicely written (thank gawd I think this is the first for this writer) and makes me feel for both of them. I'm liking robin more, he is fleshing out more emotions rather than being a one dimensional nice guy. It is obvious that he cares for seojin and i do think he is not as simple as he is being portrayed. If seojin created him to survive, could he maybe then had an active role in the abandonment of the friend.
In curious too abt what happened that was so bad and so mentally traumatic that it broke seojin into literally 2 characters.
At one point, I felt that whatver it is, the sad thing is this seo-robin is essentially really "mad" as the reality is he is just speaking to himself as both are him. Mind boggling much?It's nice to have such thoughts which means the drama invokes more emotions in the last 2 episodes than 1-5 combined.
I just don't think Hana is a cute for both of them as her character seemed weak and I wonder how they will write her reaction to the truth...
The reveal of TJ is also great but too late in the game. I believed this is a predefined plot and not any changes to script due to ratings, why in the world did they not flesh bits of Seojins trauma and TJ right from the start? THIS is the meat and hook to get viewers as it is a compelling back story vs cowardly chaebol feeling a a girl/ this is a huge mistake made by the writers and a disservice to the potential of the story. Wrong move guys/ but let's hope for a strong end. It's hard to resolve the DID and I am now quite invested in 2 key characters : seojin and TJ. Both are equally screwed up in their disturbed minds. I'm curious how this will end. Since ratings are a goner, focus on the storytelling!
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45 Meowie
February 13, 2015 at 9:55 AM
Omg that was totally unexpected for me!! I never once thought that Sung Joon is the bad guy, was just thinking he's doing quite bad at his job since his answers were always vague with regards to the culprit.
I'm so glad i sticked through but i actually never thought of quitting this show, was looking for some secret garden-ish fun drama and this was it. Didn't need to be so emotionally invested but now i'm a little hooked!
Aw man now i feel really sad because of the little audience!! ok i gotta go and motivate people to come back LOL
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46 Den
February 13, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Just caught up where I left off at ep.4...I knew eeeeet! I knew that Dr. Hotty's the manipulator because he had access to everybody.
This show's still a bit slow and the only surprising stuff is what happens between Seo-jin and Robin. Still, I'll continue watching and hope the plot moves forward now that the (real) villain's been revealed (to the audience).
At this point I feel comparisons with KMHM is not fair (to that show because overall that's awesome). Apples and oranges.
I never thought I'd say this, but that's the only OST of BJY that I dislike for overuse in the show. I keep muting every time it plays.
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Miranda
February 13, 2015 at 11:33 AM
The OST is incredibly distracting.
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sancheezy
February 13, 2015 at 10:04 PM
love is the........................oh wait, now we have a new one...
yeah I hate that too, I skip most of the scene because that ost
unfair, but it really annoy me now
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47 Miky
February 13, 2015 at 11:00 AM
ae Joo is most likely a sociopath,it's rare for one to be born like that but one can become if a huge childhood trauma happened and in their case the kidnapping did had it's effects in both of them,Robin being made and his sociopathy being awaken...of course he wasn't intersted from the start to actually forgiev Seo Jin but heck he enjoyed playing the game and pretending to give Dr. Kang a chance at her own treatment...Curious what truth Tae Joo wants him to say,we saw that Seo Jin saved himself thanks to him when he climbed and because of the little power he couldn't save him as well,so is teh admitting that he let go when he helped hime scape what he wants or that something to do with his father in the past story he thinks he knows yet he pretends....or that he thinks Seo Jin lived his life just fine while he was in a hell...still need to see what happened after Seo Jin left...I hint Seo Jin wanted to take his life back then on the bridge besides teh deppresion and guilt also because he was bullied and after that Ha Na saved him and Robin was awaken...Now i'm more curious to see Tae Jo plans in manipulating them and how he'll use the news of Robin,i'm sure he won't let him see his true face and will want to use him to harm Seo Jin somehow...Sociopaths have in large great IQ,love themselves a lot(in his case his rage is even more being about him),so i doubt the fatjer truth is what moves him but more like him,hope he won't harm Ha Na,in the moment he sees no use of her he will dispose of her in no time...This type of guy won't be cured with a apology so i'm curious if he'll end up in a clinic at the end
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48 Miranda
February 13, 2015 at 11:03 AM
Yikes, this show is uneven. It's like the realized they need an A and a B plot, but didn't understand that it's best to play them concurrently - instead we get only A or only B for episodes at a time.
Also it is hilariously dumb for all the players to be in the same room and together come to the realization that you would need to be a hypnotist to pull this off, and yet everyone goes "Ah, it must be Kang!" rather than the same-age hypnotist sitting RIGHT THERE asking repeated questions about the kidnapping.
Something off with this whole thing, I wish I enjoyed it more but right now I hit the 30-minute mark and think it's time better spent asleep.
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49 4D
February 13, 2015 at 12:09 PM
Well this also seems to be the newctrendcin kdramas. Someone mentioned the possibility early on so I wasn't that surprised. I also saw Bad Guys and Dr. Frost....so even therapists and manipulated memories seem very a mode.
On the other hand, I'm glad for it. The action is really starting now. And introducing right away is interesting...will our villain realize what's going on? Will it change his views at all on whether our hero suffered?
And is the goal in the end still going to be some sort of reconciliation and healing for both? Or just for Seo Jin?
I also don't know why everyone is going along with the Dr Kang theory. There was clearly a body in the floor seen and blood, lots of blood. She didn't do that to herself not would she have expected someone to walk in and see some weird staged whatever....so it doesn't make sense that they all believe it. Sigh. I hate dumb police.
I'm excited though that the dynamics between the characters are revving up! Both Binnies ate going to go through a lot and Sung Joon is just starting.
Also, I still like the secretary. He puts up with a ton but still clearly cares for the Binnies, and has a sense of humor about it.
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50 Lilly
February 13, 2015 at 4:33 PM
I love a well acted villain. They add the spice to show.
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