Heirs: Episode 16
by javabeans
There’s a twist or two in today’s proceedings, as both brothers smarten up and batten down the hatches in anticipation of warring with Dad. We’ve been building up to this showdown all series long, and with futures—and hearts—on the line, the stakes climb ever higher in this game of family strife. It’s a bit of a relief to see the battle begin after spending so much time watching characters maneuver their pawns into position, though sadly to say I think the drama sort of folds back on itself in making its point. But it’s not like that’s news to anybody, is it?
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EPISODE 16 RECAP
So Eun-sang takes the deal with the chairman devil, accepting his plane ticket to exile in exchange for a two weeks all-access pass to Tan. Not really a fair trade, but it’s not like she sees a better option.
Mom receives a flurry of text messages from people to whom she owed money, thanking her for paying back the loan. Mom’s first thought is that her severance came in early and she asks Madam Han about it. That makes Madam Han panic at the thought of losing her favorite housekeeper and she huffs, You’re wanting your pay NOW? Are you thinking of another boss right now? Who is she? How far have you gone? It’s cute.
Eun-sang doesn’t know about this either, though she realizes that the chairman must have paid off their debts behind their backs, wasting no time shoving her out of their lives.
Now she’s allowed up the staircase and puts on a smiling face for Tan, who pulls her inside, thinking she sneaked past the guards. She lets him think that, saying she missed him so much she had to see him. He pulls her into a hug, and she apologizes for being the cause of his captivity, but he sets her straight and takes responsibility for it: “I came back of my own will, so that I could stop being locked up. Because the way to be with you isn’t being with you.” Okay, I get what you’re saying, even though semantically what you just said makes no sense.
He asks her to trust him no matter what he chooses: “Now all I have left is you.” He holds her close, and she cries silently.
Won has a drink with Manager Yoon, who even now is playing neutral and not taking his side, which Won notes wryly. Manager Yoon suggests that he try understanding Tan’s position, but Won has lived through the past generation’s bitter sibling strife after Grandpa died and his aunts and uncles turned on each other. Why try to understand Tan when that fight is in his future? I guess the option of not fighting is not on the table.
Won had offered Manager Yoon a new job as his vice president, an offer Manager Yoon is still considering. He says he’ll answer soon.
In the morning, Tan keeps a close eye on the front gate security feed. Are we back to the stalking-is-romantic line? Eun-sang anticipates that Tan may be watching and writes him a greeting, sending a wave up at the camera.
Eun-sang gets a few snide remarks on her way in to school, and then is accosted by reporters eager for an interview with anybody who knows Tan. She’s rescued by her tormentor-turned-black knight Young-do, who takes over the conversation and sends her along. When asked if he’s close with Tan, Young-do quips that he’s Jeguk’s third son, and Myung-soo(k) chimes in with a girlish “And I’m the youngest daughter.” Lol. They both win points for that, defusing the situation in the best way possible.
Eun-sang finds her locker trashed and her gym clothes soaked in soy milk. So Young-do orders a whole stockpile of the stuff from the store, then winds up to throw a box at the other lockers. (I always wonder at the stuff that happens off-screen in moments like this—so are they just standing around for twenty minutes, twiddling their thumbs while waiting for the delivery?)
Young-do’s thought process is that he’ll get the culprit if he just throws milk everywhere, to which Eun-sang exclaims, “You’re going to ruin everything just to ruin the culprit?” Uh, are you unfamiliar with his style by now? He is Mr. Scorched Earth.
She thanks him for the thought but declines the gesture. Young-do leaves the soy milk to her, and she hands them out to Bo-na and Chan-young. They’re suspicious, of course, and ask if she’s experiencing any ill effects, heh.
Eun-sang gives Bo-na the promised photo of childhood Chan-young, and then apologizes to Bo-na before giving Chan-young a hug. I love the look on his face, all discomfort and confusion, which is then mirrored on Bo-na’s face when she gets the next hug. Eun-sang can’t explain that she’s saying her goodbyes, so she just says it was a whim.
Manager Yoon shows up for his tutoring session with Tan, and clues him in to the possibility of Dad sending Eun-sang to study abroad. Phew, thank goodness that secret’s out. Tan storms into his father’s office, takes back his phone, and calls stepmom Madam Jung—he requests her aid in getting to school, knowing she’ll agree because of the stock he now holds, and stocks are leverage in this family.
Dad barks that that isn’t why he gave him those stocks, but Tan says that Dad was the one who gave him that sword to wield now as bargaining chip. Tan warns his father to lay off Eun-sang, because if he doesn’t, he may have to swing that sword and strike somebody down.
Madam Jung picks Tan up, and their conversation on the way to school is dripping with thinly veiled antagonism. She helped, but he’ll have to pay a price for it later. Upon arrival at school, they present a united front for the benefit of the reporters, and the friends marvel that they’ve never seen the two looking so close.
Tan walks straight into class, packs up Eun-sang’s things without a word, and pulls her into Myung-soo’s workshop. Digging through her bag, he finds the plane ticket for Buenos Aires. Feeling betrayed, he asks, “Do you even like me? Or trust me?” Ripping the ticket to shreds, he asks how she could accept the ticket, knowing it would banish her from Korea forever, and then smile at him.
She says that she was scared, but he says she should have let him fight his father directly—after losing everything but her, he can’t then also lose her. He apologizes for making her cry.
Young-do joins them, and Tan surprises them all by asking him to hold onto Eun-sang until Tan can come back for her. I’m not sure what’s worse: that they’re back to passing Eun-sang back and forth between them, or the fact that it actually seems to be a viable way to handle the situation. Ugh.
It’s a full-fledged spectacle as the Jeguk family arrives at a restaurant like it’s a red-carpet event. The family dinner is mostly for a convenient photo op, but it’s also when Chairman Dad drops the bomb that the next stockholders meeting will be about Won’s dismissal as president. Gasp.
Won is blindsided, stunned that the directors he personally put in place would then vote him out, but Dad decrees that their loyalty is to him above all else. This is what Won gets for acting behind Dad’s back, and for treating the company as his own when he had always been warned that it wasn’t yet. He will give that seat to whichever son performs better, which is almost comical for the suggestion that a last-place high school junior could possibly outperform an experienced corporate exec. Whatevs, Dad, you never make any sense to me anyway.
Tan gets up to leave shortly after the parents do, and Won orders him to sit. Tan makes the jab that Won only wants something to do with him now that he has something he wants, and tells hyung to spend his energies running around to save his neck. Then he can deal with Tan, since Tan always figured last anyway.
Won calls Manager Yoon to ask if he’d been planning to backstab him all this while. Manager Yoon, to his surprise, urges him to beat his father and keep his position—and if he does, then he’ll take that VP seat. Aw, did Manager Yoon finally pick a side?
Myung-soo’s workshop is empty by the time Tan gets there, and when he calls Eun-sang it’s Young-do who answers. He asks where they are, and Young-do quips, “In your heart.”
They’re at a snack shop, where he guesses the situation with Tan’s father and advises Eun-sang to memorize his phone number, and also Tan’s, so she can call them for help if she needs to. That’s sweet, and a handy tip to boot.
He sends her home in his car and remains behind, sitting at his sad little table, which is where Tan finds him. You know, I can’t say I follow why these boys are suddenly over their previous violent hatred, but in this case I’ll have to gloss over the personality transplants (as the show did) because I much prefer them being glib and friendly.
Tan thanks Young-do for helping with his escape the other day, and Young-do does this hilarious fidgety thing. Then Tan orders him to leave with him, rather than staying behind alone.
Tan comes home to find Mom sitting on the floor drunk with an enraged Dad ordering her to her room. He actually sneers, “This is why I can’t let you out of the house,” which just tells you so much about him. Mom says in a hurt tone that she didn’t make a baby on her own, you know, and Tan yells at Dad not to berate his mother. He even dares to tell him to stop being such a coward, referring to the way Dad has hidden his messy personal life from the public with such dedication.
Dad bristles at being threatened by his son, but Tan warns him not to test his threat, because he’s finding that he’s capable of doing quite a lot—Dad had best not press his luck to see what he’s willing to do.
Won goes to Hyun-joo’s home and pleads with her to escape to America for three years, after which point he’ll come for her. Sigh, sometimes I think Won is his own obstacle in the romance department, because he seems to act in all the wrong ways with her. He clings to the belief that they can still be together once he figures out how, but she’s long accepted that they can’t be.
She softens once she realizes something new is happening to make him so distraught, and Won pleads with her to go because he doesn’t want her to see him hitting bottom. He begs her to not read stories about him either, and she promises that (though not to leaving for the States).
That night, Tan texts Eun-sang to meet him with passport in hand, then proceeds to take it from her, fearing that she’ll leave without letting him know. He pulls them into the storeroom again, entreating her not to go anywhere and then swooping in for a kiss. (A much better kiss than the last one, thankfully. And not just because this time it’s about feelings instead of one-upping a rival.)
The Rachel-Hyo-shin kiss makes them the source of gossip at school, and she asks him to avoid her when they find themselves in the same hallway, because she’s uncomfortable. He teases that she never cares about people gossiping about her, and she snaps that their gossip isn’t why she’s making the request. He wonders for one blank second until the realization hits, and then he awkwardly agrees to leave. Oh does she like him now? Okay.
Won gets busy meeting with stockholders in preparation for the upcoming vote, and makes a few important deals. Rachel’s mother declares herself on his side because that’s the side that opposes the chairman, while Young-do’s father agrees once he secures a hotel contract in the process. Madam Jung asks what’s in it for her, the answer to which we don’t hear.
Last is Tan, and Won states that the brothers will have to stand together against their father. Tan corrects hyung, saying that this should be a request rather than an order, but agrees to side with him anyway in exchange for a few necessities: an apartment and car, for instance, to keep his girlfriend out of Dad’s immediate reach.
Won is a little incredulous that Tan would do this huge thing of siding with him, all for “just some girl.” Tan states without hesitation that he’d do everything for that girl, and instructs his brother not to call her just some girl, “because now she’s my everything.”
Young-do loiters outside Tan’s house for a while, but gives up when it’s clear Eun-sang isn’t coming home. He drops by the convenience store next, where he finds her sitting alone and gives her his coat. Only now does he tell her of the first time he saw her here and how he’d stood up to those noisy little kids for her benefit, and it makes her comment, “It would have been nice if I knew sooner that you were both a bad guy and a good guy.”
He says that it’s not too late to make that realization, but his hopeful smile fades painfully when she declines and urges him to treat the next girl well instead. Don’t trip her to hold her hand, she advises, or blackmail her into eating noodles together.
She gets up to leave, and Young-do grabs her arm, suddenly serious. He asks her not to go, and although she says she’s got plans to meet Tan, he suspects that she’s going to let him go.
Won prepares the new apartment and car and reminds Tan multiple times not to miss the stockholders meeting today, and how he should vote. Tan notes that even now Won doesn’t trust him, not even sad anymore. Just resigned, maybe.
Won warns that Dad will be able to track down Eun-sang in a heartbeat even with the new address, which Tan knows. Still, that’s not his point: “I’m just showing him. That for the past eighteen years I’ve loved him and you greatly, that now the love is over, that the only thing I have left is her. So it doesn’t matter to me who I am, what the circumstances of my birth were, or how old I am. Because I’m going to use everything I have to protect her. It’s a warning to not dare lay a finger on her.”
Won hears this speech with something akin to disbelief and surprise, and maybe some realization. Are you learning, hyung?
Eun-sang window-shops as she waits for Tan, thinking back to her meeting with Dad and his accusations that she’s ruining Tan. Uh-oh. I don’t like the placement of this flashback, in this context. Please don’t do anything noble now.
Tan greets her with a back-hug, which Young-do watches with sadness from his stalker seat in a nearby car. Eun-sang’s the one who buys their matching pair of pink couple sneakers, and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Tan wearing those is proof enough that he loves her. Also, I’m doubly nervous that she’s gifting him shoes, per the old Korean adage that one shouldn’t buy a lover shoes because they’ll use them to run away from you.
Tan takes Eun-sang to see her new apartment, apologizing for doing things one-sidedly and promising that he’ll improve. While I never expected Eun-sang to react with joy to such a move, her dismay is making me super uneasy. As is her ready agreement, as she tells him she can move tomorrow and urges him to make it to his meeting.
She sends him off first, and he says it feels like they’re a married couple. So she gives him a goodbye peck in response, which makes his day. She promises to wait for him at home, but the moment he closes the door she bursts into sobs. Agh. Stupid study abroad cliché, why are you back?
Won’s dismissal is put to a vote. Dad smiles through the proceedings, but the reason turns out to be the opposite of our expectation—it isn’t because he’s assured that Won will be fired. Not only does the vote get shot down, it gets shot down with a whopping ninety-five percent opposition. That means Dad must have also voted not to oust Won, despite bringing this whole thing up in the first place.
Won staggers out with shoulders drooping in defeat despite having won his seat, because he was basically outmaneuvered by a father who was teaching him a lesson. Tan asks what his father meant by putting on this show, and Dad replies, “I was giving him a fleeting moment’s humiliation—and you, too.” He finishes with the kicker: Eun-sang left Korea an hour ago.
At home, Madam Han reads Mom’s farewell letter in tears. Tan races home and finds Eun-sang’s room empty, then races around town looking for her. Instead he finds signs of her departure, from the cafe job she quit to the school locker that’s empty.
As he stands in his empty new apartment, he replays Dad’s words: “Never forget today. The price you pay for swinging that sword was losing that girl.”
COMMENTS
I’m glad the brothers stepped it up and set the ball rolling as they both took formal stances against their father, even if they ultimately were outwitted. Given the extreme parallels between Won and Tan’s romantic tribulations, it’s interesting to watch how each brother reacts differently—both are committed to the idea of being with their girlfriends despite the odds stacked against them, but their tactics diverge in meaningful ways. (This makes me wish even more that we’d gotten to this point earlier, not in the final stretch, because the first three-quarters of the show is stuff that’s played out according to every cliché in the K-drama playbook. Would’ve been much nicer if we had some time to play out the comparison.)
I can concede that Won’s tactic has a few things going for it; by keeping his connection to Hyun-joo on the downlow, and in trying to send her away to come back for her later, he gets to at least keep seeing her. The downside is that nothing about their relationship has been satisfying (for them, I mean) in the many years it’s been going on, because it’s not a full-fledged relationship in any sense—it’s being strung along without a lot of payoff, without a clear sense of future happiness or even present bliss. But it’s what he has chosen in order to keep even that small connection alive.
Tan has the same inclinations at first, and there was a real chance he would follow Won’s sad footsteps. But when push comes to shove he’s gone the other way, pushing back against his father and fighting in the here and now. He knows that tucking Eun-sang away isn’t going to be a viable strategy for the long term, but he’s not hiding her away as the end goal—it’s symbolic more than anything.
The problem is that Dad is just crazy at this point, taking up the role of blanket villain. I get that the stockholders’ vote was supposed to be a demonstration of his craftiness, but mostly I’m just confused. What was even the point of that show, if the end result was the same? We knew at the end of last episode that Eun-sang took the deal and played noble idiot to go away, and in this episode, she took the deal and played noble idiot to get away. Dad gloats that Tan lost the girl because he wielded his sword… but to be honest, he lost her to Dad’s machinations before he even picked up the sword (i.e., joined in the stock/voting game), so isn’t that a moot point? The drama played the revelation of her departure for a moment of shock, only, were any of us shocked?
It’s just such a bummer when your hero and everyone he loves is basically impotent, and there’s no fun watching Dad lord it over everyone all the time. I can see the chairman’s point (however dickish) about pulling the vote stunt to humiliate both his sons, because it warns them not to even think of beating Dad, because he’ll always win. It’s what abusers do to keep their victim-partners in line, so scared that they don’t dare mutiny in the future. He’s a tyrant at home and at business, so it fits his profile. It’s just that I feel like we got shafted of a real conflict—of the brothers banding together and fighting smart—and the buildup and tension were sapped away in one instant, like soap bubbles popping in the air. I feel deflated, just like Won.
One of my long-held beliefs/pet peeves about dramas is that if the vast majority of everybody’s angst can be solved by one person changing his/her mind, then you have a bad conflict. The entire premise starts to crumble because not only do you have some egomaniacal patriarch pulling puppet strings and making everyone cry, this also means that we aren’t going to get a satisfactory resolution either—because all he has to do is change his mind. Wah wah. How deflating. How weak.
Well, I guess he could die. I wouldn’t cry about that.
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101 Me
November 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Park Shin Hye unnie, I'm glad you still have your lips.
I thought Lee Min Ho ate them yesterday because he was really hungry and he was eating his favourite Lengua Afritada. How about in Episode 17 to 18, are you serving him lengua too?
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Heirslover
November 30, 2013 at 9:39 AM
:D :D :D
It would be great if there were more servings!! ;) :)
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102 :)
November 29, 2013 at 6:26 PM
You guys complain to much. Reading through all these comments, many people are complaining about the kiss scene between LMH and PSH.
1.) Stop being a butch of babies and critizing PSH about her stiff body language and her face looking like she just sucked in garlic kissing LMH. This is PSH's very first responsive kiss with OPEN MOUTH.
2.) Saying it was extremely awkward and uncomfortable to watch her face looking like she is cringing, that is her kissing face her character is feeling sad and expressing her sorrow for what kim tan was saying to her.
3.) I LOLED so hard saying she looks consipated. I guess everyone has different opinions on her face while she is making out with LMH.
4.) I hate reading comments stating that another drama is so much better than the heirs and saying wow the heirs is so boring! A lot of people happen to enjoy the drama and if you hate it so much then why watch? A butch of idiots thats for sure.
5.) Saying PSH is such a bad kisser and that you felt sick watching her kiss LMH. I don't know but I bet half of you don't even know how to kiss like that and picking on her kissing scenes. I bet some are upset that PSH kissed there oppa and butt hurt about it and raging on about every little thing about PSH. No one is perfect, and acting like you are way better than PSH makes me want to laugh.
6.) I am upset about the harsh criticism towards the main leads and the whole drama itself. Theres two main things to get across. First one is, if you hate it then don't watch. Second, stop being a butch of babies and enjoy the goddamn drama and stop whining/complaining about all the actors/actresses. Dont act so high and mighty and acting like you are so perfect and picking on the actors/actresses.
That is what I want to say. :)
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM
This is not fan site, people here are free to voice their opinions, and the fact that some opinions differ from yours does not give you the right to make personal attacks: "..then why watch? A butch of idiots thats for sure.."
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morning
November 30, 2013 at 7:36 PM
you totally nailed it!!
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103 sayit
November 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM
While I do not like the way Park Shin Hye acts in kissing scenes, I don't get all these comments about her having to be grateful or to respond in excitement just because it is, you know, the sexiest, most handsome man on earth, Lee Min Ho, we are talking about.
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mountainlion
November 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM
Do you really think that LMH has that paramount level of sexiness in front of people who are actually in the in-group of Korean entertainment? By your standards all the co-stars of dramas will end up falling for each other in real life cus they are all hot and shit, and all the make-up artists, PAs of all the entertainers can never get their job done and will end up grovelling at the stars' feet everyday because they are working with such attractive people. As much as I love LMH as a fangirl, you really have to keep in mind that he is just a normal human like everyone else despite his attractiveness, and really, he is just another co-worker in the eyes of other celebrities.
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mountainlion
November 29, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Yes I echo your sentiments exactly
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104 tessa
November 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM
I wonder how many people who are complaining about PSH and her kisses has actually kissed someone before, much less kissed someone who isn't your boyfriend/husband/friend/father. Because if you guys haven't, I don't think you should be complaining.
Go kiss a random stranger and tell me how it feels like.
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Merry Christmas!
November 29, 2013 at 8:24 PM
https://www.asianfanfics.com/blog/view/734210
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tessa
November 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM
^ exactly my point. LOOK AT THAT KISS. DO YOU FEEL THE PASSION AND LOVE AND EVERYTHING IN IT?
Yes.
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM
No.
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 10:50 PM
I kissed a frog once, does that count?
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105 mountainlion
November 29, 2013 at 7:48 PM
Yes I agree with a lot of people here-STOP WATCHING THE DAMN DRAMA IF YOU DISLIKE IT-you are ruining the atmosphere for those of us that thoroughly enjoy it, so stop please nitpicking every detail of the drama.
Also, I agree that PSH's online kissing skills does not reflect upon anything about her personal life-actors and actresses are told what kind of kiss they need to do, and if PSH didn't deliver what the director wanted I am pretty sure that they would've filmed it again and again to get it right. On a side note, that kiss wasn't all that bad, watch it again folks and you might actually realize that she was kissing him back.
I don't understand why people think that this drama is compiled of the oldest cliches-yes it does have some cliches like the whole poor girl rich guy situation, but some of the parts are pretty original-you don't get many dramas where the main guy is nice and wholesome right from the start. You don't get many dramas where the mistress of the house is nice and fun to watch. You don't get many dramas where a girl has a guy BFF that is not secretly in love with her-in Heirs we can actually enjoy the awesome Eunsang-Chanyoung friendship without worrying about him getting heartbroken. You don't get many dramas where the main guy's ex is not a total b**ch but someone cute and wonderful.
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 10:57 PM
I could care less what opinions you put forth as to how good or bad a show or actor is, but I am getting a bit tired of the "if you don't like XXX, don't watch it" thing.
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mountainlion
November 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM
and I am getting a bit tired of you bashing the s**t out of this show at every chance you get
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morning
November 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM
ha!ha!ha! so true!
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Heavenly
November 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 11:03 PM
count me in as well!!!
Ace
December 1, 2013 at 1:25 AM
Yes, we get that you don't care about anyone else's opinion but your own. You can disagree with someone else's opinions but please do it in a way that would encourage people to have a friendly discussion over the disagreement. Not only are your opinions mostly negative, but they shout out "I'm always right, you're always wrong" and that's something like Rachel or old Young-do would say to people who don't agree with them.
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morning
November 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM
yes the kiss wasn't bad at all, IF PEOPLE REALLY WATCHED IT.
the longing, desperation, and afraid of losing of each other was well portrayed by tan-eunsang in that kiss.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM
hey mountainlion, totally AGREE with your last para and also enjoyed your candid thoughts. you rock!!
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106 KissMeKissMe
November 29, 2013 at 8:03 PM
https://www.asianfanfics.com/blog/view/734210
See attached passionate kiss cut.
Still trending number 1 trending in nate. I agree with some comments that its not the story of Heirs nor the acting nor the characterization that made the trend nor increased viewership reading, its the PASSIONATE OPEN MOUTH SUCKING KISS OF PARK SHIN HYE AND LEE MIN HO. Shin Hye is seen as this natural and pure beauty and I think with her OPEN MOUTH RESPONSE KISS with Lee Min Ho is what made the viewers very curious. Same with Lee Min Ho, he couldn't contain his HUNGER to kiss Park Shin Hye passionately.
This is what makes Heirs unique compared to BoF, here you have PASSIONATE KISS. And I heard there will be more intensive kissing scenes between these two in Episode 17-20 which will make a mark in K-drama. I don't know what it is, the news is just floating around.
I can't wait for Wednesday and Thursday.
Unfortunately, its no longer the story which everyone is waiting for - but another torrid and passionate hyper-ventilating sucking kiss between PSH-LMH.
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Merry Christmas!
November 29, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Wow! Wow! Wow! So unexpected. The best kiss so far from either one.
Thanks dear. I replayed five times. Jingle bells jingle bells.
Who said that Park Shin Hye is not responding. She did. There is an obstruction, the glass jars, but keep on replaying and you'll clearly see her response too.
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107 KissMeKissMe
November 29, 2013 at 8:12 PM
Maximize the view and count the hyper-ventilating breathing of Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye.
I disagree with those who said that Shin Hye is a like a statue in this kissing scene. The light is dimmed but when you maximize the view, you can see that she is opening and sucking too just like LMH.
I'll watch the next episodes in FULL ANTICIPATION.
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108 Payphones
November 29, 2013 at 8:12 PM
Waiting to see the last few episodes of this is going to be PAINFUL!
I saw a lot of comments/questions about the passport issue (i.e., how can she leave the county if Kim Tan took hers?). I'm not sure how it works in Korea, but I do know that as a US citizen in the US, it's pretty easy to get a replacement passport within a day or two (or even the same day if you're willing to pay for it) - it's expensive, but 100% plausible. So if there's a similar process in Korea, considering his wealth and influence, Chairman could easily have obtained a new one for her with short notice.
I agree with a lot of posters who have been complaining about the fact that sending Eun Sang abroad is a bit useless given email, Skype, social media, etc., but as someone who's been in several long distance relationships during my life, distance can be a KILLER, no matter how easy it is to stay in touch. I think the real problem with this study abroad plan is that the bad guy (Chairman) never seems to understand that while most relationships would falter and break under the strain of distance, real, true love (in theory) won't.
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 11:01 PM
But with both OTP's supposedly 17-18, we don't really know just how "true" that love is. What seems totally important at 17 can seem just totally stupid at 25. So though I disagree with Grinch Daddy's methods, it perhaps time to take a break and for them to take a real look at themselves and each other.
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Adal
December 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Good point. But again, we're not dealing with reality.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 11:08 PM
agreed, this IS a drama, people. it is purely for entertainment.. for crying out loud!! :D
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109 kanu0688
November 29, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Im on my phone and i cant reply a lot of awesome and hilarious comments around here lol. The last scene reminds me what his dad said about the house that kim tan had on usa "it was enough dark, so you can see the stars" i cry because because it wasnt even stars, it was just a city where he is trapped. And nobody is talking about the scene where kim tan's mom was wasted on the living room..i seriously cried and it gets worst: fish kisser girl was listening all the fight in the kitchen with wine on her hands...it means she was the one who was giving the wine to her "madam"...i would be horryfing to even think that they would be my mother and father in law...jesus...RUN GIRL RUN AND NEVER COME BACK.....!!!!!!
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Yup, I just found out today that the phone app does not have a reply button to click. But aside from that, hardly the ideal family is it :D ?
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110 suci togubu
November 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM
its not too late for some cordis change those ugly sweaters on Kim Tan. please...with LMH good acts,how could he wears those stuff along 20eps??? and for PSH,i like ur act,but please go meet Yoon Eun Hye or even Suzy for kissing scene tutorial. you will need that for your career in K-entertainment i suppose. and for Dramabeans,i love ur narrations and descriptions through scenes.thanks
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windsun33
November 29, 2013 at 11:04 PM
I am pretty sure the sweaters are product placement, but I for one think they should have found a better product to advertise.
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111 funny
November 29, 2013 at 11:19 PM
in spite of the differences comment bout kissing scene, it was a very heartbreaking episode...unless for me :p . Can't hardly wait for the next eps....
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112 Russian fan
November 29, 2013 at 11:55 PM
Ahhh. Just enjoy the drama. Don't over analyze the past episodes and the future episodes. Thats what dramas are for, to entertain us during our free time.
Just enjoy the torrid kiss scenes between the handsome and tall Lee Min Ho and the lovely Park Shin Hye. Lets just enjoy because they are enjoying their time kissing and hugging and cuddling - in whatever degree.
What a bonus it is to be an actress or actor, even if you are single you get kisses as benefits. I should be an actress so that I can have friends with benefits too.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Bingo! you nailed it there!
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113 saranghaelmh
November 30, 2013 at 12:50 AM
I got through the kiss by ignoring PSH. The boy even makes a standalone kiss look good. Note to everyone bashing about Heirs.. no it doesn't really have a point. Yes it's great to have LMH onscreen. Watch Indian dramas and I think you might appreciate these more :D :D :D.
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 1:15 AM
I tried watching a few Indian dramas, and have to say not my cup of tea. The only one I liked was a joint US/India one - Marigold was the name. And thinking about it, don't recall ever seeing any kiss scenes in Indian shows or movies, and it seems like they try to make every movie a musical.
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Lin_K
November 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM
Indian movies do not have kiss scenes, except for some of the recent ones. Yeah, songs are an important part in Indian movies. At least one song is a must. Lol.
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saranghaelmh
December 2, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Yes. They are getting worse. You will find they go on for years together as well. That's why Kdramas are my cup of tea. And very few emote like LMH. Now I have KWB as well. I am enjoying my time here. Btw what was the story of Marigold? They never kiss. It's all foreplay. The female is a klutz usually that falls into the male lead's arms and they stare for eons and the epiosde ends.
But try Dil Mil Gaye or Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon and tell me what you think.
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Alice
November 30, 2013 at 1:28 AM
https://www.asianfanfics.com/blog/view/734210
check this
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114 marmo
November 30, 2013 at 2:42 AM
Can't believe PSH can still frown while kissing, oh come on that scene should be totally emotionally and she aint displaying that, love the girl but her display at emotions is just arggh! Feel sorry for my min ho buh I know it only a maTter of time since the drama is ending soon anyway, eun sang will be back soon either she is still around or very far away
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MYoung
November 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM
I want to think she was holding her tears, since she knew she was leaving anyway. That is what I want to believe. She did kissed him back, but she was frowning, that was strange.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM
""I want to think she was holding her tears, since she knew she was leaving anyway."' Ditto!! :)
that is why she had to act like that. if only all who commented neg. understood the reason behind the big hoo ha over this kiss thingy. the thing is it has to be approved by the PD before broadcast, isn't that what it is??
I thought it was well orchestrated given the circumstance that they were in. KT&ES hwaiting!!
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115 Marie21
November 30, 2013 at 4:19 AM
oh and by the way, there have been many lovely hugs in this episode!!! I loved them!!! more than the kissing scene which seems awkward but stil rather "hot"!! Yeah it was a weird kiss but an improvement if you compare with the first one...I wish Kim Tan had followed his impulse during the first scene they were in the storage room!! the mood was so right at the time and it would have been a lovely kiss IMO.
The best kissing scenes for me were in "Reply 1997" (love Yoon Jae for that! he's an awesome kisser and he feels so real, just like a normal young man with normal sexual needs!! oh yeah those kisses were so realistic and so "hot" and the drama is Korean, so don't tell me Korean guys don't have the same needs as any guy in Western countries!!!) , in "I hear your voice" (good kisses and I also loved them because they were so beautifully shot, just like in Reply 1997, I think it's also important to make these scenes as beautiful as possible! ) and even in "Secret Garden", I enjoyed the kissing scenes (Joo Won has the same appetite as Yoon Yoon Jae in Reply 1997 ^^lol ) if I mentioned these dramas, it's also to show that the actresses in the kissing scenes were not passive, they respond to the kiss...
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Adal
December 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Watch Queen In-hyun's man. The kisses there were scorching and the good thing is that the girl sometimes initiated the kiss - especially the first one, which is very unusual in Kdramas with the woman pretending to be too innocent to kiss and all. I was and still am blown away by their chemistry which turned out to be true in real life.
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116 MYoung
November 30, 2013 at 5:28 AM
This drama will jump into the future, that is the reason why all the characters were older. At the beginning I did not understand, why LMH is 26 and acting as an 18 year old. But now I understand what is going to happen here, and makes more sense now. I like this idea, don't you too? :-)
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM
I don't think that will happen, perhaps in the last episode.
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117 Lilian
November 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM
How much shares do the brothers have? If they have combined, more than their evil father then we can get a happy ending!
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I think they have 5.7% each, but no idea what chairman or others have.
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118 Lena Minoz
November 30, 2013 at 8:29 AM
After a long time waiting for Oppa Lee Min-Ho's new drama, & & keeping my fingers crossed for Park shin hye's acting,NOW sadly Park Shin Hye hasn't improved!!! :((
The same sad,depressing,sickening & frowning expressions!!! the same stinginess in emoting,kissing,..
I am sorry 2 mention this BUT she isn't pretty as an actress should be!! She looks like a boy!! Manly features! sometimes she looks like Grandmothers!!!!!!
after 4 episodes,there will be no lee min ho in dramaland!
:( agaiiiiiiin waiting!!!!!
He has been offered a role in the movie "Gangnam blues"! But NOOoo confirmation!!!!
Even if he accepts,the filming will start in March!!!! LONG!!
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119 Citi
November 30, 2013 at 8:39 AM
LoL thought she was going to be sent to Kazakstan or Siberia not Beunos Aires!
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Lindy
November 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I don't get that either. Buenos Aires? A Kdrama hardship posting? She should be so lucky.
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elfin
December 1, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Idk if you've seen cinderella's sister, but there was a scene there where eunjo asked where the farthest place to go so her mom can't find her, ki hoon said, ushuaia, a place considered to be the southernmost city in the world.
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elfin
December 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Ushuaia is a city in argentina btw. She's going to buenos aires, en route to ushuaia? Just guessing. I'm not making sense, am I?
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Lindy
December 1, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Ushuala is the capital of Tierra del Fuego! Next stop Antarctica! Maybe Mr Tan is sending her to count penguins after all.
120 Heirslover
November 30, 2013 at 9:14 AM
:) :) To me,the best scene of this episode is "the heartbreaking crying scene of Tan"!! It is beautifully impressive!!
All I see in this drama is great! I see no fault! :) cause I am "Heirslover"!! blinded by love ;) :)
So happy cause the crying scene of Tan has the rating of "25.5%"!!! The crying scene had the "25.5%" rating at THE MOMENT OF TELECAST!!
the crying scene of Tan & Eun Sang in episode 12 infront of each other had the rating of "23.1%" at THE MOMENT OF TELECAST as well!!
in Korea network "Lee min ho's crying" in ep 12 was the most search!!
I got all this in his fanpage!!!
I think Kim Eun Sook has created the BEST scenes for Tan!!! these scenes are really great in a way that Tan's character is uniquely highlighted!! It gives me the impression that this drama is ONLY JUST FOR LMH!!
Even the scenes which I mentioned about the high ratings at the moment of telecast are Tan's,for LMH!!
Kim Eun Sook really focuses on the lead and love them!
Do U remember the "Parents meeting" at Jeguk high school in which Madam Han attended??
If you remember,the card which she was holding had the images of "Hyunbin" of secret garden,others from "city hall",....
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM
25% might sound like a lot, but quite a few dramas in the past have gotten a lot higher in that time slot, a few over 40%.
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Heirslover
November 30, 2013 at 10:47 AM
25.0% at THE MOMENT OF TELECAST!!
What I mean was that the SCENE itself had high ratings!!
the crying scene was so impressive that led 2 high ratings NOT GENERALLY but the time of its telecast!!
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM
I just looked it up, and the complete episode rated about 20%. The highest rating ever for a drama is Sandglass, at 65%, so it has a way to go, even with the spike in certain scenes.
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Javabeans
November 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Actually 20% is quite impressive. Sandglass aired back in the day when there were three TV stations - 65% is never going to happen in this day and age. Hitting 20% today is sorta like hitting 40% a decade ago.
windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM
That is probably true, I did not check the air dates, just the list of highest rated shows. I have never seen Sandglass but looking now it aired in 1995 - so yeah, I should have picked a better example.
August
November 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM
@Heirslover
“the heartbreaking crying scene of Tan”
So far, Heirs has had many comedic, cringeworthy, shocking, and heartfelt moments. However, the ending scenes of Lee Min-Ho (as Kim Tan) in Episode 12 silently crying with a tear streaming down his cheek and now in Episode 16 kneeling down on his knees crying with his hand pounding against his heart are poignant and unforgettable scenes from Heirs.
The journey itself and the patience it took to plod through all the characters/plot/storyline/episodes led up to those scenes which made Heirs rewarding and worthwhile viewing to me.
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121 Bridget
November 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM
I AM A MOTHER OF AN 18 YEAR OLD GIRL.
WE BARRED OUR DAUGHTER AND HER COUSINS FROM WATCHING HEIRS. REASONS:
1. THE DRAMA TARGETED HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AS THEIR PRIMARY AUDIENCE, YET THEY HAVE MID TO LATE 20'S ACTORS AND ACTRESSES.
2. THEY HAVE PARK SHIN HYE AS THEIR LEADING ACTRESS WHO IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GOOD IMAGE AMONG TEENS WHO LOVE K-DRAMA
3. AT FIRST, IT WAS OK TO LET THEM WATCH THE DRAMA BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WILL INSPIRE THEM TO BECOME BETTER PERSONS.
4. I GOT A SHOCK OF MY LIFE WHEN THEY WERE ALL GIGGLING AND DISCUSSING THE KISS BETWEEN LEE MIN HO AND PARK SHIN HYE.
18 YEAR OLDS DON'T KISS THAT WAY. AT 18, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR HORMONE TELLS YOU THERE IS SOME SHYNESS, BUT THE SUCKING KISSES BETWEEN LEE MIN HO AND THE RESPONSE OF PARK SHIN HYE ARE NOT FROM AN 18 YEAR OLD. THESE ARE THE RESPONSES OF MID 20s. BOTH KISSED ACCORDING TO THEIR AGE. BUT IT CONVEYED A WRONG SIGNAL TO HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
NOW, I KNOW WHY THEY HAVE MATURED STARS ACT LIKE TEENAGERS.
WHAT AN EXAMPLE.
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Heirslover
November 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM
this drama is Gossip girl-esque!!!
In Gossip Girl,the characters are 18 but behave as if 30!!!
That is why they kissed like that!!
In a Kim Eun Sook drama,the characters usually behave like they are 15(everyone knows that) but now she has changed her style 2 a different one!!
Ur 18 year old girl will SECRETLY or NOT SECRETLY watch kiss scenes & other adult stuff!! This is because of her age!!! Do you wanna ban her from knowing the facts till the end of your life??
what's wrong with ur daughter discussing the kiss???
Do you think JUST BECAUSE of this drama,her curiosity has raised???
Do you think your 18 year old daughter will JUST TALK about homework at school???not anything else???
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Are you aware that the drama is rated at PG13?
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Javabeans
November 30, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Please no comments in ALLCAPS.
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122 CC
November 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM
I wonder how this is going to continue off... I bet years are going to pass and then she is going to come back from where ever the hell she went and try to win him back. Any one have any ideas?? I really hope she builds a backbone because right now she seems so weak :[ I mean everyone has to protect her she can't do that for herself. And i agree with everyone saying that she docent seem to truly love Tan. If she really did she wouldn't be convinced to leave him so easily. This is why the evil dad is able to manipulate EVERYONE because they never stand up to him. Except Tan :[.
For some reason I hoped Woo BIn would be the main lead for this drama oh well... i would love to see him be the main lead in another romantic comedy :}}}}.
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windsun33
November 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM
I just don't see any big time warp coming up, at least not until the last episode. Often in the last 1/3 or 1/4 of the last episode they will do a "3 years later" or something thing, but not very common with still 4 episodes left.
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123 August
November 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Standing alone in front of the class, Rachel gives her perspective of the character Gatsby from "The Great Gatsby:"
"Daisy is like green lights for Gatsby. Looking at the unreachable green lights in the fog...Gatsby cherishes hope for his life. But to Gatsby, Daisy was not hope. She was a fatal poison. Eventually Gatsby fell in love with a mirage of Daisy. He ruins his life just to be with the person he loves."
Some Symbols & Themes from "The Great Gatsby"
Society & Class
Wealth
Power
Greed
Love
Dreams
Education
Isolation
Geography
Dissatisfaction
Lies & Deceit
Recklessness of youth
Pursuing visions of the future that are determined by the past
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Lindy
December 1, 2013 at 9:07 AM
The Great Gatsby is my favourite American novel. I've read it multiple times and it is one of those books that changes as the reader grows up and changes. So I'm wondering what interpretation the 28 year old (say for example) Rachel will put on it.
There have been three works of fiction mentioned more than once in Heirs; A Midsummer Night's Dream, Scream and The Great Gatsby. I think that's it. I was wondering what they have in common. All three have actions and characters that look to be real but are, in fact, false. There is trickery, deceit and misdirection involved in all three. In the case of Scream especially, the audience is being played just as much as the characters on screen.
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124 MLM
November 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Beautiful and touching acting from LMH. He is incredibly talented and have certain inner power to move the audience with his eyes and his whole persona. I've really learned to enjoy this so interesting/intriguing/sometimes puzzled drama because of him. Don't get me wrong, everyone is doing a superb job like YD, LB, the moms, even the evil dad, but oh my gosh this young man is fantastic. He makes me feel what he feels. I cease to be an expectator and become part of his most inner emotions and that doesn't happen to me often with any other Hollywood or Asian drama actor. Great job Heirs!
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125 Sajen
November 30, 2013 at 6:12 PM
"One of my long-held beliefs/pet peeves about dramas is that if the vast majority of everybody’s angst can be solved by one person changing his/her mind,"
Or by killing the parents, so many dramas would end earlier and happier if the kids just killed their parents
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126 sundei
November 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM
i find the lip to lip (all slow mo, no movement, frozen and holding back) kind of kiss more unrealistic. does the sucking really come with age? if so, when do we actually learn it? in our 30's???
uh anyway...too much for the kiss. i saw it, i enjoyed it...i move on. i think they did a good job. considering this star crossed lovers are so in love with each other, they should be kissing more any chance they get. you-and-me-against-the-world kind of romance can fire up the senses and every few minutes of being together is going to be like the last moment in their lives. so i still think the mere fact that holding hands in the previous episodes still seem like a huge deal to the characters, this show has pretty much downplayed a lot of what is, i believe, more real. but that's just me.
but hey, i love watching k-drama sometimes because everything seems always sweet. even the kisses are sweet. i have seen too much of western teenage shows from the 90's to the present that show more than they should and k-drama is refreshing in that sense. they don't get hung up on just the physical thing when the truth is, in this age and time and with the advent of cable and internet, kids are more oriented than we admit it. there is nothing wrong with teenagers discussing kisses and more of that. it is the time to be curious. and as a parent myself, it is my responsibility to discuss it with them so they don't end up asking others. because they will anyway.
i love this drama not because they were so hot in the last episode. i love it because it entertains me on my boring mid week hours. i love Lee Min Ho. i love the humor. i love laughing and crying with them all. but then again, like i said, that's just me.
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127 Benet
November 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM
But Kim Tan has Eun Sang's passport. Dont leave that info behind. :)
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Jossie Grossie
December 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM
ohhhhh yea! totally forgot that!!!
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128 country girl
November 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM
What is Boys over Flowers? Meteor Garden? Hana Dori Yango? Are these foreign titles of Heirs?
I'm new to korean drama and I read that these are same?
Please advice. Some said that this is Japanese manga?
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sund
December 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM
no they're not the same. Boys Over Flowers is a Korean adaption of the Japanese manga entitled Hana Dori Yango. Meteor Garden is the Taiwanese version of the above.
Heirs is a totally different show but the male lead in Heirs is the male lead in Boys Over Flowers as well. Watch Boys Over Flowers too. You'll enjoy it. :)
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129 Trixie
November 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Time is running short tonight so I can't read all the comments and analysis so this may not be a new idea but isn't it possible YD has kept watch on ES and knows where she has gone? Seriously that young man is one fantastic actor. He is gripping. Somehow YD will be the savior.
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130 Izie
December 1, 2013 at 5:26 AM
Its really good to analyze drama. However, im the type of person who watch drama while doing some other things... Its interesting seeing people looking at it at different perspective. :).
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131 FY Tapri
December 1, 2013 at 7:40 AM
Just realized somethin... the actor who played as YD's father wasn't he also the one who played in Secret as the man who in the end replace Ji Sung as the CEO of K-corporation? or was it someone else... because if its true, is that even allowed as Secret and Heirs were once rival on the same time slot?
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Ace
December 1, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Different actors. YD's father played by Choi Jin-Ho was in Incarnation of Money not Secret. Sec. Choi in Secret played by Lee Seung-Jun was in Nine.
http://asianwiki.com/Choi_Jin-Ho_(1968)
http://asianwiki.com/Lee_Seung-Jun
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132 Lucifera
December 1, 2013 at 7:54 AM
I simply cannot believe that this drama is written by the same author of "You're Beautiful" or "A Gentleman's Dignity"!!!!!! I don't feel anything for the main leads, because I saw no "development of feelings" between them. Where is the love they claim to feel so passionately towards each other???
I believe the only thing driving the ratings higher is the actors themselves, not the story or the drama. If I were to allocate No. 1 to Master's Sun and No. 2 to Secret Love, I'd hesitate to even give No.10 to this one. I'm SO disappointed, because I was SO looking forward to seeing my two favorite people (Park SH and Lee MH) in sth written by my favorite writer. There's nothing to remember, to hold on in your memory, once you're done with watching it. There is no logic to the story, and It's ridiculous, how everyone is voting in its favor. That makes me sad, and I wish it was aired next year instead of this year, and thus ruining the chances for the success of Master's Sun, which was EXCELLENT! A pity.
I think I'll just stick to Hong sisters from now on.
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Ace
December 1, 2013 at 9:33 AM
Know your Hong Sisters. They did You're Beautiful, not KES. KES wrote Lovers in Paris, City Hall, Secret Garden, AGD, and this. I don't watch all her dramas but those I've watched were entertaining and the characters memorable even if her writing is not consistent and the situations are sometimes ridiculous.
Just because it's getting high ratings doesn't mean it's a good drama (like TMTETS) and maybe the actors are driving the ratings up to some extent but most likely Koreans watch it because KES wrote it. She's her own brand and her dramas are mostly hits even if the stories have large plot holes. I know it's not flawless but I'm enjoying it as I've come into this with low expectations.
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133 TinaFee
December 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM
I love WB in this show! and thought I'm the only one! nice to read that some other fans feel the same way!!! there's a litte (little) chemistry between the main couple. YD and ES are much much better. would love to see more of WB in this show and as a lead character in a show in the near future.
the kiss did not look like a real kiss. I didn't like it!
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134 calliep
December 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM
There were negative comments previously about KT pushing down the coffee table at BoNa's party.
However, someone mentioned in another blog about KT talking about fighting with a spoon in his past referring to City Hunter. He also covered his face and jumped from the wall City Hunter style while escaping from his home to see his brother. I believe the tipping of the coffee table references Choi Yong in Faith when his tipped the food table at the King's uncle residence. When he cried at the end of Episode 16, it was imitating BOF when Goo Jun Pyo cried at the airport. I think the writer is being mischievous in this drama.
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MYoung
December 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Good point, I noticed all of those too. I can see that a lot of people is focusing a lot on him, but what can he do, he really does a great job. Such a great actor.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM
yes, LMH is SUCH a great actor. I'd repeat that again and again. He is not visually good BUT act good too and that is double bonus, at least to me!! :)
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135 Jossie Grossie
December 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM
All I gotta say is Homeboy(KT) kissed her like a real man!!! amen to that! and poor little thing wept like a woman! my heart sank- it crushed my soul. period. Lee Min Ho- I LOVE YOU.
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM
ditto!!
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136 Jossie Grossie
December 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM
and also love the dynamic between KT and YD! all of these characters are flawed to make the viewer relate to each and everyone of them and they are all doing a tremendous job!!!!
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peacegee
December 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM
ditto again!! :)
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137 Bell
December 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Everybody were commenting about the kiss, so l'm joining! It takes until 16th eps for a kiss that we're waiting. It suprised and shocked me a bit since for it really a quick start that definitely shocked ES as well. The shot l beg were been done few times to choose a best one. ES, yes looks a bit in pain but the pain looks like physical not the heart's pain like few above's comments. She will be asked to cry during kissing to show the pain from inside. Overall, she didn't look comfortable with the kiss. She did eventually, cooperate, but yet her action did not satisfy viewers. She not suppose to scratch, instead cooperate by easily laying her hands on his neck is just enough to show the reaction.
As always, LMH can kiss very well and never disappointed, not even once. He always lead. Her kiss more shadow to passionate and hot kiss than a 'i love u' romance kiss. Thumbs up for LMH, you the best.
No preview for ep 17, no clue at all. But l think Eun Sang can't go abroad, no ticket and passport. l bet Young Do be his knight again. Let just hope not another time jump, 1 year later or 5 years later. l just hate that way. Only 4 eps to wrap up everything. Hope the ending won't suck as per the initial of this drama.
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138 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM
I enjoy reading all your individual comments, it's nice to see the negative and the positive opinion. But, what I don't understand is why do so many people who love a show hate reading negative opinions, or criticism? in my opinion it just adds depth to those who love the show, and insight to those who dislike it.
Windsun33, I've actually enjoyed reading your comments always whether here or in the open thread.Even when you criticize a show I loved, for some reason I still think you're negative comments or positive ones make me appreciate the shows I like more, and it adds a few insights here and there.
The Heirs, even after 16 episodes, I can't say I've fallen in love with then main leads or felt for them. and like so many people mentioned previously, there is nothing about Kim Tan's character that is admirable. I've loved Secret Garden, even with Hyuin Bin's character as a jerk sometime. but he was intelligent, loved to read, and truely fought for Jil Rae im's character. there was more depth to the character.
Honestly, the ONLY character I feel for, is kim woo bin's character. it's such a tragic character and I truly wish he gets a happy ending then just being on the sideline next to psh and lmh love.
And lol (I actually laughed out loud) I some of the comments who analyzed the closet scene. lol
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139 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM
@ Ivoire...
I also appreciate always reading your analysis/questions even though I'm not so intrigued by the show, but some of your questions I also have sometimes in regards to culture difference and how we can have different interpretations then what is intended for the viewers to understand.
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140 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM
Watched Indian movies, they are good, but long, and definitely very musical. although, I've def have seen very memorable ones that always stays imbedded in my memory.
Watch Turkish Series, definitely give it a go because they are surprisingly addicting and truely have amazing story line. definitely recommend Ezel and Asi <3
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saranghaelmh
December 2, 2013 at 6:59 AM
Movies are another ballgame. Its the dramas you gotta watch out for. The leads are usually pretty though :D.
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141 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM
@anniejang
""There are two kinds of commenters on dramaland forums-those who are interested in the drama, and those who are fangirls (the SQUEE squads).""
lol couldn't agree more, I've also seen the LMH squad and man sometimes they are so obsessed with an actor that anything he says or does is fantastic, and they want to kill anyone who dares says a negative comment about the love of their life :)
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142 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM
@calliup
""When he cried at the end of Episode 16, it was imitating BOF when Goo Jun Pyo cried at the airport. I think the writer is being mischievous in this drama.""
I swear when I watched that scene, that BOF airport scene is the one that came to mind. you could be right about the writer here :)
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143 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 10:09 PM
@calliup
""When he cried at the end of Episode 16, it was imitating BOF when Goo Jun Pyo cried at the airport. I think the writer is being mischievous in this drama.""
I swear when I watched that scene, that BOF airport scene is the one that came to mind. you could be right about the writer here :) city hunter one of his best roles defiantly
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144 Turkish Rose
December 1, 2013 at 11:04 PM
I simply love the fact that Master's Sun and Secret are still being talked about now, even though they are long gone...truely shows how powerful and captivating they truely were. Definitely my favorite dramas of all time.
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145 oops
December 2, 2013 at 7:03 AM
sorry i'm a french speaking person, and this is google traduction :-)
For my part I loved episode 16 . The " Heirs " is not a very good drama despite a great frame , good personages and good actors (Young do is awesome) . However, everyone agrees that episode 16 had the intensity and tone should be adopted from the outset if the writers had exploited the wealth of personal stories of adults. It has everything: adultery , divorce, money, ferocity ... Dallas is short in Seoul !
Contrary to what was said in the recap , I do not think either that the attitude of Father Tan is just stupid and mean. If we compare the operation of the Tan family to that of a royal family, actually every "man" is a rival for access to the throne and the king himself . The father is an aging king who at the same time he must prepare his succession , must show his own son that he is still the master to avoid being evicted and to preserve the stability of the kingdom (in. Similarly how he tries to explain to his son that the coexistence of two heirs to the head of the kingdom is not possible. And he was right because by giving power to Tan ( represented by shares) , he weakens the position of his first son.
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oops
December 2, 2013 at 7:45 AM
Imagine if "The Heirs" was "Games of thrones" :
- Won would try to kill Tan to keep the throne;
- Won would try to kill his father for the throne as well;
- The father would manipulate Tan to calm the ardor of Won, or try to kill Won because he stands up to him;
- ES would be raped by Young Do (because he's crazy but he loves her anyway);
- Tan would marry ES and would have preferred as Rob Stark love to ambition;
- Tan would paid his naivete and die like Rob Stark with ES;
- Won's mother would killed Tan's mother because she has no value without a son.
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146 saranghaelmh
December 2, 2013 at 7:05 AM
The truth remains that I am digging the man chemistry that KT and YD have. That's more captivating than anything else. LMH and KWB really work their facial muscles with all those expressions.
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147 Sabrina Lim
December 2, 2013 at 7:28 AM
"Well, I guess he could die. I wouldn’t cry about that."
the brothers cld juz hire an assassin to kill Dad. Problem solved.
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148 SITARA
December 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Hi everyone, loved this ep. I think there is still too much to tie up we need an extension so the ending is not rushed.
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149 Yuko
December 2, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Sigh. I am disappointed by PSH's acting!!! I liked her in You're Beautiful but this is just... argh. Why must she look so sad at every episode? Can she stop crying??? My goodness. She almost has the same expression throughout the show. Spoiling my show!!
Hope rachel and hyo shin get together!!
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150 Kainoa
December 3, 2013 at 6:56 AM
If the writer really wanted to break the stereotypical k-drama prototype, the drama would end with everyone ending up exactly as socially intended and not tied up into a storybook happy ending. Now that would be interesting.
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