Heirs: Episode 12
by girlfriday
So, this is crazy, but STUFF ACTUALLY HAPPENS. I know. I wouldn’t believe me either, so I wrote it down just in case. Eun-sang makes a decision, Young-do actually begins to feel feelings (I think), and Tan takes a stand for something. I wish I could tell you that this changes everything, but let’s not look a plot horse in the mouth, eh?
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EPISODE 12 RECAP
This time our love triangle plays Come With Me, No With ME in the middle of what must be the longest red light crosswalk known to man. Either that or obeying traffic signals is for the little people.
Tan sticks out his hand and asks Eun-sang to turn metaphor into reality (or is it the other way around) and take his hand to go forward with their relationship. (I didn’t promise it’d be a deep metaphor, did I?)
Eun-sang slowly raises her hand up to his, but Tan can tell this isn’t her reaching out to him—it’s a goodbye. He yells at her not to do this, but she says they’ve come a long way already, and they can’t go any farther.
With that she lets go, forces a smile through her tears, and gives a casual “I’ll see you around” before walking off. Young-do says rather sincerely at Tan: “You’re still always making people leave you.”
Young-do catches up to Eun-sang and quizzically examines her tear-stained face, as if trying to compute what leaky ailment has possessed her. He complains that people will think he kidnapped her (well, you’re not wrong), and when she bursts into a full sob, his response is: “I want to party. Why are you crying?” Pfft. This right here is why you suck at human role-play.
He asks if she wants to ditch first period and party, and even through her sobs she manages to throw a barb his way: “Ninety-eighth place would say that.” He watches her go with a long face, sighing to himself that she refuses to be caught.
Okay, so I died laughing to discover that after all the dramatics in the intersection, Tan and Eun-sang share first period gym. I guess “see you around” meant see you in twenty. He walks into class and stares moony-eyed at her, which she doesn’t notice until Chan-young and Bo-na walk in.
Bo-na runs over to Eun-sang and asks where she ran off to so early, and from the other side of the gym, Tan asks Chan-young if he housed Eun-sang for the night. Chan-young knows nothing about Eun-sang sleeping elsewhere last night, which only freaks Tan out more. The clues are tipping in Young-do’s direction—she’s been to his hotel room before, and he found them together this morning looking awfully chummy.
He runs into Young-do in the locker room and asks if Eun-sang cried a lot this morning, and Young-do refuses to answer his questions, which is maybe the first thing he’s done that I actually like. Tan tells him plainly not to think of this as an opportunity to win Eun-sang over: “This opportunity—it’s mine.”
Young-do doesn’t say anything in response, but then sits around googling Eun-sang all afternoon. Bo-na and Myung-soo rifle through the photos from their camping trip, and come across a telltale pattern—Young-do gazing at Eun-sang over and over again in every picture.
They both whirl around and exclaim, “Do you like Cha Eun-sang for real?” Young-do looks at the pictures and smiles to realize that’s what he looks like when he’s looking at Eun-sang. Myung-soo can’t understand why of all the girls in the world that’s his first love, and Bo-na can’t believe it’s taken him this long to have a first love.
Tan comes home to a nagging Madam Han who interrogates him about having any more contact with Eun-sang. He asks his mom if she’s genuinely happy living this way—never being introduced to anyone as his mother—and she answers honestly that it makes her sad, but it’s all worth it for his future.
He points out that if he marries Rachel and all that comes with it, he may never get to introduce his mother as his mother. But despite her feelings, she doesn’t budge on her stance about his future and about Eun-sang. He lets it go for now, and asks her give back the bunny socks she’s been wearing all this time, saying that they’re his. Ha.
Eun-sang spends her afternoon apartment hunting and calls Mom to bring her a change of clothes.
Tan calls Hyo-shin out and casually drops the bomb in his lap that Director Jung isn’t his biological mother. Hyo-shin thinks it’s a joke at first, but Tan says he’s testing out the confession, to see how it feels. He admits he’s shaking, and decides to run another lap to sort out his thoughts.
Won now has his guard up around Manager Yoon, not knowing what kind of things they can even talk about anymore. Manager Yoon doesn’t pretend to be on Won’s side, but tries to soften the blow when showing him the article that’s going to be published tomorrow, of Hyun-joo’s new position at Jeguk, courtesy of the lifetime commitment to charity on behalf of his family.
Won’s face hardens to realize this is why Manager Yoon was meeting with her, and then he basically implodes to find out it was all his father’s doing. Ah, so this is her equivalent of the envelope of money sliding across the table. She gets the big dream job in exchange for leaving Won.
He storms home and opens the door to Dad’s study, to find Hyun-joo sitting there waiting for him. Dad points out that this is all Won’s doing, and if he had taken care of his love life properly, Dad wouldn’t have to step in like this.
Chairman Dad says in no uncertain terms that Hyun-joo spat in the face of his generosity by daring to date his son, and Won does nothing while she says she understands and walks out. You deserve to lose her.
She leaves the house crying (Why is this the norm around here?) and runs into Tan. He stops to ask if she’s okay, and she recognizes him right away. She just asks that he holds his brother back, and leaves him wondering who she is.
Won steps out, and Tan tells hyung where the girl went and that he’s supposed to hold him back. He asks what’s going on, and of course Won doesn’t tell him, though he does add a tip that he should be careful because Dad’s hired people to spy on them. Nothing like scary invasive fathers to bring estranged brothers together, eh? This family.
After seeing Won zoom off with no intention of going after the girl, Tan feels compelled to go find her. He finds her at the bus stop and sits down next to her, and conveys the message that hyung isn’t coming.
He asks if she’s his brother’s girlfriend and how she recognized him earlier—does hyung ever talk about him? Hyun-joo says he did, and repeats Won’s words: “My little brother is affectionate, honest, he’s grown very tall, and his eyes are just like mine.” Aw, did he really say those things?
They sit there in silence, and Tan remains there long after Hyun-joo has gone.
Mom gets dressed to go meet Eun-sang, and tells Madam Han that she’ll work until the end of the month, after which she’ll have to hire new help. Madam Han is hilariously broken up about it but trying not to let it show, and freaks out when she thinks Mom is leaving the house right this instant.
I’m pretty sure she would’ve cried, but Mom says she’s just going out on an errand, and Madam Han calms down. How will you live without her?
Mom waits for Eun-sang outside the convenience store, where Young-do happens to plop down at the table next to hers. He calls Eun-sang for a date and gets rejected, only when she arrives to meet Mom, Young-do is there in plain sight.
Thinking quickly, she calls him back and agrees to eat with him, making him meet her elsewhere. She ducks out of sight until he’s gone and meets with Mom to tell her that she’s looking for a place and sleeping at a friend’s house.
She goes to meet Young-do, who notes that she’s coming from the direction of the convenience store, and then he sees the shopping bag in her hand that Mom had. A light bulb goes off in his head and he tells her to wait here and rides off. Uh-oh.
He waits at Tan’s front gate, and sure enough, Mom arrives home after meeting with Eun-sang. He’s suddenly all sweet and polite as he asks if Eun-sang is home and if she’s her mom, and after getting away with a nod here and there, Mom finally has to type a reply into her phone that Eun-sang is at work.
He passes by Tan on the way out, but remains cryptic about his reason for being here. Seconds later, Tan gets a text from Won that they’re playing golf tomorrow with Young-do and his father. Wait, we’re putting metal clubs into their hands? Who thought this was a good idea?
Young-do finds Eun-sang long gone, but he waits anyway and she gets a text from Mom that her friend on a motorcycle came to see her. She runs back in a panic, and as Young-do watches her approach, he says to himself that it’s Explanation 6 (for why she lives at Tan’s house): daughter of housekeeper, with a disability.
She knows that he’s figured out the whole story now, and asks what he’s going to do, not caring if he wants to tell everyone or harass her for it—she just asks what she should prepare herself for. He doesn’t seem very interested in lording the secret over her head, but she’s fixated on what new brand of torture he’s cooking up, and demands a response.
Young-do blurts that he has no idea: “I don’t even know what to do about my own scars! What am I going to do with yours?! I was just sad when you weren’t here, and I’m happy that you’re back, and your secret is heavy, and that’s it.”
She still doesn’t believe he won’t do something to her, and points out that that’s what he does to others, to her. But he says that’s why he can’t do anything to her now, and decides they’ll have to eat together another time and rides away.
The golf date rolls around and both Won and Young-do’s father remind each of the boys that a business deal is at stake. They remain civil enough for a while, until Young-do asks nonchalantly if the kids at school would be more shocked to hear about Tan being the son of a concubine or Eun-sang being the daughter of a housekeeper.
Tan recites his usual stay-away-from-Eun-sang line, but this time Young-do turns it around to say that he’s not threatening Eun-sang with what he knows; he’s threatening Tan with it. He says that if Tan stops protecting Eun-sang, Young-do will protect them all, and keep their secrets. Dude, even when you’re doing the good thing, why must you find the most evil reason to do it?
Tan says he’s been trying his best not to live like his past self, but threatens to return to that if he has to beat Young-do. He takes out his claws and says he’ll retaliate as Jeguk Group’s second son, and go after his father, his father’s company, and everything he owns. Young-do scoffs that it’s big talk for an illegitimate child, but Tan points out that he’s still his father’s son.
Another flashback to their past brings us to the moment Tan had warned Young-do he’d regret it for the rest of his life. Present Young-do says he should’ve come sooner, but Tan says he was mad at him, and held it against him for all of five minutes…
But those five minutes turn out to be the last chance Young-do had to eat a meal with his mother before she left him. The boys run in to find a table set for two, and his mother long gone.
Tan says now that Young-do is the one who lost the chance to see his mother because he was so stubbornly trying to win against Tan. He warns him again not to touch Eun-sang, and pleads with him to let this fight go: “I don’t have the time to fight with you because I’m preparing for a bigger battle.”
At school the next day, Eun-sang can’t help but be disappointed when Tan walks by her locker without acknowledging her. She meets Bo-na in the broadcast room and sees the mound of presents for Hyo-shin from his fangirls (he won a student short film contest). Bo-na tells her that Young-do likes her thinking it’s a big secret, and Eun-sang awkwardly pretends to be surprised.
Tan comes by to congratulate Hyo-shin on the film contest, which is obviously an excuse to be in the room. But my favorite part is Bo-na’s firm belief that he’s here to see her, which she says out loud to everyone. HA.
Hyo-shin chitchats with him and asks why he really came by, and Tan just stops with his back turned to the room to say it’s because he missed her, without the “her.”
Tan goes to Director Jung to apologize about ruining brunch with Rachel’s family last time, and asks her to invite them to dinner so he can fix things. Meanwhile Rachel attends one of her mother’s work parties, and learns the shocking tidbit that Ye-sol’s mom is a room salon madam.
Director Jung finds the in-law dinner a perfect excuse to put Madam Han in her place, and invites everyone over to the house on purpose. Madam Han comes out to find her hanging a family picture in the living room, and is brought to tears when she’s told that Tan is the one who set this dinner up.
While that’s going on at home, Tan is waiting for Eun-sang to arrive at work, and asks, “Are you happy now that you moved out? Are you happy now that you don’t see me? Are you happy now that you’ve let go of my hand?”
She deflects and tells him to go home, and he kisses her instead. He says he’s not really one to listen to her (yeah no kidding) and pouts about how she left him standing in that dangerous intersection and didn’t even call to check on him, when she obviously missed him too.
She denies it, so he kisses her again, daring her to lie one more time. He finally tells her what he came here to say—not to come home tonight, no matter who calls.
Back at the House of Two Moms, Madam Han stubbornly stands her ground in the hallway, refusing to leave. But Madam Jung knows to call her bluff, and tells the maid to open the door and let the guests in, and of course Madam Han has no choice but to run to her room in tears.
Mom comes in to comfort her and gives her updates on the dinner, which she’s grateful for. Downstairs, the family goes through their usual round of pleasantries over dinner, and Tan shows up late with apologies.
He asks to show Rachel his room, and once he has her alone he apologizes in advance for what he’s about to do. He says he’s going to show her what it is that Young-do saw when he came over.
Madam Jung comes in to rub the whole thing in the mistress’s face, and notes that she’s seen her look the same way eighteen years ago when she caught her sneaking around with her husband. She throws a glass of water in her face for emphasis, and Tan comes in to see his mother get crushed yet again.
He steps in to wipe the water from her face sweetly, and even Madam Jung can’t hide her jealousy at that. Tan takes his mother’s hand and asks her not to let go, and then leads her out of the room. Omo.
He takes her out to the living room, and Rachel’s mom recognizes her as Eun-sang’s mother. Tan says she’s mistaken, and announces in plain words that this is his biological mother, and he is an illegitimate child.
His mom cowers in fear the entire time, but he refuses to let go of her hand. He apologizes for the lies, and breaks the engagement knowing that it’ll now be mutual on both sides. Rachel’s mom fumes in indignation and hauls Rachel out, and Madam Jung chases after them.
Dad is livid and gets up to slap Tan across the face. Twice. Mom cries that it was all her fault and she put him up to it, but Tan doesn’t let her take the fall for him, and tells his father that he’s not sorry. He says he’ll apologize if he ever comes to regret his actions today, but he’s fairly confident he won’t regret them.
He challenges Dad to kick him to the curb if he likes, “But Mom is your woman, so you take responsibility for her.” He finally lets out the breath he’s been holding all this time, and Mom cries, asking how he could drop a bomb like this.
She continues sobbing up in his room, and asks why he did it when she endured so much to give him this life. He apologizes sincerely for thinking differently and just sits at her feet as she cries.
Eun-sang is distracted all evening at work, knowing that something is up with Tan. When she goes out to throw away the trash, she finds him standing outside waiting for her. As soon as he sees her, his eyes well up with tears and he starts to cry, and without knowing why, Eun-sang mirrors his tears and cries too.
COMMENTS
Okay, so I’m just resigned to the fact that I’m never going to understand why in this world, Eun-sang saying goodbye means Come by and kiss me whenever you please, because in MY world, when a girl says goodbye, she means goodbye. I don’t even blame Tan as the only culprit here, because this writer likes to have her heroines say the opposite of what they’re feeling, thinking it romantic when a man refuses to listen to her words because he can see through to “what she really means.” Why it doesn’t occur to her that this is a slippery slope and a dangerous game (Uh, no means no, anyone?) is beyond me, but I feel like I’ve just got that fundamental block with her and I’m just never going to get over it.
I’m not trying to harp on it, but in all honesty it’s just a thing that keeps me from engaging with the romance emotionally, because Eun-sang is clearly acting like a person who wants to be with Tan, but saying things to keep him at arm’s length. It makes me frustrated with both of them—him for not listening to her and her for constantly giving him the misdirects in the first place—when all I really want to do is just root for a couple who wants to be together. Running away once because you’re scared, okay fine. Running away twelve times gives me the impression that you don’t want to be with him, so if you DO want to be with him, stop being so confusing. A stalker’s resilience is not a thing I want cultivated in my hero. Just sayin’.
The same can be said of Young-do, really, whose behavior does so many cartwheels of assiness to hide the vulnerability that he doesn’t want exposed, that by the time we FINALLY get to some human emotions and signs of a soft underbelly, I’m too far gone (and so is Eun-sang) that his nice behavior is circumspect. I do believe that he likes her, and if she really is the first girl he’s ever liked, okay, I even understand that it’s the first time he’s trying out foreign feelings, and why he ends up blurting emotional vomit at her like a boy who’s angry at the girl he likes for being pretty. You’re new. Fine. But you don’t get extra points for that. That’s just your bad. I’m sorry you’re at an emotional disadvantage because of your militant cyborg upbringing, but you know what would be impressive? Maybe you overcome said disadvantage and be a good person anyway.
I was disappointed that the boys just returned to their same cyclical dynamic when it seemed like there might be a glimmer of hope once Young-do had real feelings for Eun-sang and a vested interest in winning her over after she rejected Tan. But they continue to make this all about them, and that just makes me continue to roll my eyes. At least Tan DOES something in this episode, which is sadly such a rare occurrence around here that I was shocked. The mom reveal was a rather sweet mother-son moment, and I was happy that he at least stood his ground for one relationship in his life. In that respect he really is better than Won, who simply stood by as the love of his life was crushed and ousted from his life without even getting to confess how he really felt. Talk about a pitiful character.
I really liked Tan’s brush with Hyun-joo in this episode, because they’re strangers and yet so similar in that moment. I just liked their silent connection at the bus stop, both hurt by the same person and both wanting to be loved by the same person, knowing he’s not coming for either of them. I would hope that witnessing his hyung’s sad romance go down like that might make Tan a little more proactive so that history doesn’t repeat itself with Eun-sang. I’m just hoping Tan’s apathy and inaction is officially a thing of the past. Action Tan, are you here to stay? And while you’re at it, could you maybe get Says What She Means Eun-sang and Soft Underbelly Young-do to come visit more often? I so do like it when they come to play.
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1 Momopeach
November 14, 2013 at 8:09 PM
Oooh some real drama, a good scene that was for me. Glad Tan stood up for his mother.
Anyone know the song that was playing at the beginning when Eun Sang was walking away from the cross walk, also the one playing while Tan was reflecting on him and Eun Sang?
Glad we got some info on Hyun Joo, but now I want to know how her and Won met.
Show still needs more of her, Hyo Shin, and Bona (aka the true star of the show).
I think something I'm disappointed in is that Eun Sang and the broadcast team never really happened. I was expecting her to do bulletins reflecting on her current situation and Young Do and Tan staring off into space taking in what she's saying. Ya know, something like that.
Anywho, the show seems to be making the parents come off as the bad ones, and in this case, many of them are. It plays on the theme of being strung about by parents and adults; fate in a way. That or really rich parents are just mean.
Lastly, Eun Sang has said she likes Tan, so I'm hoping to see her do something for him if she really does like him. Like, hug him if he's crying like the last scene. Hoping she comes to his rescue at some point.
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2 Ally
November 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM
"Thats something a person who's ranked #98 would say"- I love it when she says stuff like this!
And Tan? you say you do something called thinking? thats news to me...
But good for you to say let us solve our problems and move on...it's actually quite mature thoughtful. And wow Tan you outdid yourself today by standing up for your mother.
And Bo Na's "he is talking about me" was so funny!
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3 Faye
November 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM
*Aaack! He did it! He really did it! Tan went all in. After all the back and forth, the hiding, the dancing around the truth and lies – he didn’t just step up to the plate. He bought dynamite and blew the whole damn field up. Wow. I can’t wait to see the fall-out.
*I just hope we get to see Eun-Sang do something similarly dramatic. Obviously their positions are not the same, but she’s been forced to be very reactive until now. It would be nice if she has the chance to do something as well to show she’s as committed as Tan.
*LOL at Rachel showing up in a white dress to the dinner – very subtle symbolism there.
*I did enjoy Young-Do trying his usual nonsense, and Tan just blowing him off with a “Look, buddy, I don’t have time for you to be all up in my grill anymore. I’m all about Eun-Sang/daddy defiance drama now. Gotta jet!” Poor YD looked almost hurt they wouldn’t be fighting anymore. Don’t worry, buddy, you’ll always be Tan’s real first love :).
*Loved that we finally see some positive interaction between Won and Tan. Bonding over the inherent pitfalls of dating women their father won’t approve of was sweet. I did “daww” a little when I heard how positively Won describes his brother to HJ.
*Oh my God, that golfing scene was so hilarious. Never has a scene been so rife with unintended double entendre. “See this golf club in my hand?” Yes, we see it. Also, burn those golf clothes, LMH, so you never have to wear them again. Those plaid pants were the devil’s handiwork.
Oh yeah, show, it’s on! It is on like Donkey Kong! (shout out to the other 30-somethings who might remember this)
Thanks for the recap!
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4 kooriyuki
November 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM
The opening scene. If I were Eun Sang, I'd take YD's hand and place it in Tan's, tell them to have fun bromancing and walk away. Why cry! This two guys are definitely made for each other.
That aside, thank goodness there's finally some progress. Tho I'm not sure if next week we'll be back to squre one. This drama really, should be done in 5 5 episodes. Ugh.
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5 Ace
November 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Yay for some developments. I liked what Kim Tan did. But that ending? Really? That was it? Hahaha. Anyway, hope ES cries LESS in the future. Pretty please. PSH cries well, but for her character she's crying too much and it's making me want to throw something at the writer every time.
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6 August
November 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Lee Min-Ho…
Bravo!
Awesome!
Mesmerizing!
Kudos!
My Man, U Da Bomb!
Daebak!
Kim Tan, that’s how you do it!
Episode 12: You knocked it out of the ballpark!
That’s the Lee Min-Ho I look forward to and love watching in Kdramas!
Saranghae Lee Min-Ho!
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7 Ivoire
November 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Thank you for the recap! My questions:
1—What did YD mean by KT makes everyone around him leave? I didn’t think KT did that. KW is not close (so does that mean he left?), but KT’s mom has not left him, and neither has Rachel. YD rejected him, but that was YD’s choice, and honestly, I don’t see who else left KT. What did the beanies understand that statement?
2—I have a question about SNS, is it like Facebook?
3—I am asking this because I am still trying to understand how people in Heirs’ elite circle think (sorry, I don’t have it all figured out by now): KW said that if the true story of HJ comes out, she will not survive as a teacher at Empire High. Why? Because she will be working with teachers who are rich? Or because she will be teaching rich students? With the Foundation being there, people have got to know that some of the teaching staff and personnel are not wealthy, no? I can understand having a hard time as a student, and being chased out. So would the adults at Empire High basically treat her the same way?
4—Chairman daddy said something I found interesting, yet challenging to understanding, “don’t bet your life for a glance of the eyes, or for hearing the sound of your heartbeat.” I think Chairman daddy was talking to KW, or maybe to KW and to HJ. So, “don’t bet your life for a glance of (the other person’s) eyes?” and “hearing the sound of your heartbeat” when the other person is around? I am assuming this is a figure of speech (maybe), and that it might be poetic or a roundabout way of saying something, which is what? Was he (Chairman daddy) only talking to KW?
5—I thought it was interesting that KW had not confessed yet (but I was not really surprised). I think that KT would not have waited as long (as his brother). I also thought that it was interesting that Chairman daddy was talking to HJ about her own feelings, and yet, he seemed to have actually echoed KW’s feelings (and daddy knew it).
6—Why do you guys think YD likes ES? I am not really clear on that, but I will take a guess: he was intrigued at first, and looked forward to bully her. And because she kind of stood up to him (at times), he started to have feelings for her, found her attractive, and the more he found out about her background, he became protective of her (and her sad story is melting his heart?). As I indicated, I am a little confused. That reminds me of GJP in BOF, if that is the case.
7—I understood that YD got mad at ES when they were at the intersection. He looked and sounded confused about his feelings at the moment, he looked hurt and upset. Yet some of what he said confused me as well. How did you guys (and gals) understand it?
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8 jiw_sobangnim
November 14, 2013 at 8:19 PM
Before anything..
I have to say.
This is a definite turning point.
Sigh could have been done earlier I suppose but who cares.
I only have the fact to commend LMH for pulling off the stern words he said to his father. Can you imagine how much courage and thinking he had to do to do that??
And then, crying in front of ES. That's nuff said. He only shows his weak spot towards one person.
He has finally become a man that Won could never become. I forsee a bigger and better Jeguk Group under Tan rather than Won. Maybe Won always knew this fact that is why he is threatened.
All in all, It is a Tan and Madam Han episode once again.
Thanks For recap!
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9 miszdi
November 14, 2013 at 8:23 PM
The Best Episode of Heirs, finally we got the real drama. Applause for Tan :)
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10 Grace
November 14, 2013 at 8:23 PM
I'm a girl, and I don't often say what I really mean when talking to my boyfriend. Like, okay actually means no. Or goodbye actually means please stay. So, I do get the writer's perspective on this. Aren't most women like this? Eun Sang especially since she wants to be with Tan but knows how things will turn out if that happens.
Finally, some big things happen!! I was wondering when it's gonna come. Initially thought the producers wanted an extension that's why they move things so slow as they are. And really, I wouldn't mind seeing LMH in my screen for 4 or even more episodes!! I love Kim Tan!!
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11 mikimotoable
November 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM
this episode should have been aired earlier!!
out of topic, how did you guys manage the to snacth the top comment with such long post?
did you guys type the questions before GF post the recap?
LMH is so beautiful when he cries!
KWB, I just want to hug him!!
PSH, pls stop those surprised eyes!!
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12 dramafan100
November 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM
I liked this episode. Finally he did something. I finally felt something. I have been so detached so far. Annoyed at my own need to watch the drama when I was always annoyed with KT and ES. I am still annoyed with ES but at least KT is taking some action.
ES's character continues to be irritating.
I had patience with the drama because of Woo Bin. I wish Young Do gets over his crush very quickly and leave them the &*%# alone. Or may be helps Tan with his 150 IQ and redeems himself.
I love Kim Woo Bin. He is marvelous in this role.
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13 Eileen
November 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM
I liked this episode a lot! Up until today I was watching the drama halfheartedly but today was good and I loved to see LMH making KT look so determined and vulnerable at the same time. I have written a lot about my issues with KT and LMH but today he nailed it and made me happy. It did take a lot of episodes to get here but better late than never.
I loved the scene with mom's revelation but I am so excited for Won/Tan and the possibilities! Could it be that Won was being an ass all this time to keep Tan from wanting/getting the power of Jeguk group and putting himself in the subordinate position and all the tribulations that Won is facing? Is Won really a softie in disguise?
The revelation that YD hates Tan not because he is illegitimate but because he has convinced himself that Tan is the reason that he didn't get to have a last meal with his mom makes a lot more sense. It does not change the fact that YD is twisted but I can accept the hatred better this way.
For the first time I am actually looking forward to the next episode rather than just using it to kill time and look at the pretty. I hope it's another good one.
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14 stars4u
November 14, 2013 at 8:32 PM
What I like the most in this episode is the confrontation between Young Do and Eun Sang but that scene didn't even last that long. Is it development in Young Do's character or is it just Woo Bin?
The rift between the two guys makes me miss School 2013 so much! Iguess it would kill the to just say "Didn't you miss me, you bastard"!
I want my bromance fix!
Eun Sang's mom and Tan's mom continue their cutr interations! They're totally bffs now.
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15 Hayley
November 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM
I don't know why this drama draws me in even though the whole story is so bland.
We are already at episode 12 but I still feel as though I don't really know what Eun-sang really wants (her words and actions confuse me) or why Tan is so into her.
It also annoys me how she cries in every episode and she seems to be so passive about everything! Eun-sand needs to be more feisty! Argh i am so annoyed with the writer, the love triangle is really not worth the time as nothing happens at all!!
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16 Sudina
November 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM
Cant believe that this episode end just like that but with major turn about.All things happens..Secrets revealed ANd now waiting for the reaction/consequences in next episode.Tears,tears,heartache..
And it looks like a first love for most of characters.Jaw drops.I dont know what to say anymore.
And I'm so slow that until eps 9 I just realized that Kim Ha Neul,Kim Woo bin,Kim Ji Won actually were in To The Beautiful You.
Thanks for recap
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17 kidleader
November 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM
Thanks for the recap..
I really like the show but its so slow but now it finally move forward with secrets out and things besides bullying or fighting is actually happening which they should have done before. I also like its different and actually good cliffhanger like the one when tan will discover eun sang living on the same house.
My facorite scene in this episode
1. All of the scene with bo-na which is really cute and funny.
2. Hyun joo telling tan what won thought of him.
3. Tan and hyo shin scene.
4. Tan and eun sang standing and crying
I hope this pace will continue..
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18 Akiddo
November 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Young-do blurts that he has no idea: “I don’t even know what to do about my own scars! What am I going to do with yours?! I was just sad when you weren’t here, and I’m happy that you’re back, and your secret is heavy, and that’s it."
Awww...he just wanted to eat noodles with her...
I seriously can't imagine another person playing this role. KWB nailed it. In earlier episodes, feel like slapping him and hugging him at the same time.
Now - you just want to give this guy a big bear hug and tell him that everything will be ok. His first love is doomed to fail but he probably will get his best friend back. So School 2013. I miss the bromance too.
Things finally moved into full gear. The tides are changing!
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19 blegh
November 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM
I stopped watching this drama as of this week. was only watching it because of woo bin, can't watch him look so pitiful anymore. this drama has evrything wrong we find in kdrama. will come to read the recaps though.
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20 Kainoa
November 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Tan should have held out a little longer and gotten the shares his father was going to give him. Won is slowly being ousted anyway, so he would've warmed up to Tan eventually instead of being a hard ass. Then, the two brothers could've ganged up on that sad excuse of a father, and shipped him off to America. Or the South Pole.
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21 Mystisith
November 14, 2013 at 8:43 PM
All in all, nice acting by everyone for the emotional scenes but I'm just fed up with tears and angst. Let's have the fun back next week, please.
Rant: I'm allergic to physical violence and I don't like to start fights but if you start one with me, you'll lose. Is it considered manly to take unfair blows from your dad? I'm a girl: If I were in KT shoes, at the second slap daddy would be at the ER for a broken wrist. You can call the cops: I have a nice story to tell them. >.>
Also, I don't get why the kid has to pay for the sins of his parents (K drama, I know and sageuk setting in modern world too)... Last time I checked, it took 2 to tango so for me the sinners are mom and dad. 50/50 unless he raped her.
Rave: YD worming his way in ES's life, I like it. Trust has to start somewhere & obviously girl won't make the first step. If he has the detonator in his hand & doesn't use it, she'll be forced to believe him right?
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22 OhPaulliexD
November 14, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Well this episode was... Surprisingly decent.
Of course aside from ES's saying what she doesn't mean (or at least how it's being interpreted) and Tan doing what he isn't supposed to be doing-but hey, at this point I don't think we should ask for much x)
But, um- honestly? THANK GOD we're not beating around the bush anymore about Tan being 'illigetimate'. I'm SO glad that plot point is (I sincerely hope) over and done with x)
Thanks for the recap!
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23 Dasotong
November 14, 2013 at 8:45 PM
Can't believe I actually cried at some scenes despite my brain telling me it doesn't make sense.
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24 iaahero
November 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM
FINALLY. The drama is going somewhere. Although not that far, but we're getting there.
Is anyone else sick of Eun Sang's sobs? I swear she gets crying scenes at least twice if not 3 (which is the norm) in EVERY episode, and has now gotten on my nerve severely.
The love triangle is not working on me. Seriously, don't Tan and Young-do have other better things to do??! Why are they so invested in Eun Sang as if they're fighting for their country?! I get that this drama's focus is on that very damn love triangle, but the way it is executed makes the whole fight look immature and pointless. I mean, I'm sure it's pretty obvious to us who Eun Sang will end up with.
Dad slapping on Tan? Dad spying on his sons? PSSHH is that all his evilness can do?! It hasn't even properly started yet. At the moment, all the baddies in the drama are not doing any justice to spice up the story, so they may as well cease to exist. They're just sitting there, in their comfy chairs, doing nothing.
I'm still holding onto that tiny thread (that's on the edge to get cut off) of hope for this drama to get better. Although I doubt it.
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25 owl
November 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM
girlfriday, you are faster than a speeding bullet!
My Herihead episode titles up to date~
1 Dry Cleaning Only
2 Dreamcatcher
3 I ♥ California
4 Page 16
5 Wishbone
6 Parvenu (or New Money)
7 Pale Pink Angora
8 ‘Don’t Answer’
9 Mom Mother Mistress
10 Matching Shoes For Camp
11 Stocks Skyrocket
12 Open The Door
For a instant, at the very end, I thought I heard the piano theme song ‘Romeo and Juliet’ playing as KT and ES stood apart at the prescribed distance, stared, mouths agape, and stared some more...
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26 Yeonjae
November 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM
김탄이 멋있네요~^^
Tan is so adorable when he's with Eun Sang.
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27 snow_white
November 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM
I'm loving Tan and Hyo Shin scenes so much..... :-)
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28 pru22
November 14, 2013 at 8:55 PM
Tan was all kinds of AWESOME in this episode from beginning to end. I love how honest and brave he is in letting Eun Sang know how he feels about her, no matter who is around. Like Young do when he was explaining things to her in the intersection.
I knew she was going to take his hand and basically say goodbye. And then run away. I loved how upset she was when YD caught up to her and she asked if Tan left.
She wants to be with him as much as he wants to be with her, she is just so scared.
And YD needs to just give it up. He is suppose to be a genius but is so damn slow on the uptake where Eun Sang is concerned.
He needs to stopped trying to position himself to be her rebound. Especially since he knows exactly where her heart really lies.
Speaking of hearts...Won is a IDIOT of epic proportions. Love Secretary Yoon and how he clued Won in on what his father is doing. I was so disappointed in how he was strong going to his father's office but then deflated once he saw Hyun-joo sitting in there.
And to sit there and let his father berate Hyun-joo and not fight for her...he deserves to lose her. And I've said before and I'll say it again, he needs to take several pages out of Tan's book. And don't even get me started on him NEVER telling Hyun-joo how he really feels about her.
Hopefully he'll get it together in the end.
The golf scenes amused me. I cannot believe YD once again had to excel at being an ASS! He and others cough, Rachel, cough, are ALWAYS trying to force Tan's hand not realizing he doesn't give a damn and is not afraid to hit bottom.
I adored how he got all in YD's ass and let him know the deal. The flashback further proved YD's assiness. And still to this day he refuses to own up to his bs and admit it's all his fault he and Tan are no longer like brothers.
I liked Tan scenes with Hyo shin and how he was the first person he admitted to being illegitimate to since he got back.
I knew the second Tan was asking his mother all those questions what he had in mind, and it was further proven when he was talking to the chairwoman.
The chain of events that transpired after that was just so kickass. Tan going to see his love and kissing her and then him preparing Rachel right before he got ready to lay the smackdown.
If the chairman thinks for one second Tan is going to be pliable like Won he is in for a rude awakening. I cannot wait to see Won's reaction when he learns of what Tan did.
I also can't wait for the next episode. I personally think Tan is just going to get braver and braver. And is it just me or does anyone else think when this show ends Tan and Eun Sang will be living together in America?
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29 Balletgoddess
November 14, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Thanks for the recap ^_^
I hope KT is prepared for the pandora's box that he just opened = (
If ES and her mom leave and she transfers back to her school the Daddy Kim can't use/ threatened her anymore right??
I really want to know HJ's storyline, where is her family? Does she even have a family? I hope KW is going to going to be more proactive...
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30 Stardust
November 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Hmm... Nice one Kim tan.
More drama please
We could skip the kiss scenes. Nil sparks whatever
How can anyone not kiss LMH properly...
Great crying though for both
Last scene was poetic. I like how he seems to be holding it in then letting it out. And she the same
Music was good too.
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31 schwalrusninja
November 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM
I'm not Korean so please pardon my ignorance, but could someone clarify something for me?
1. Why is the whole illegitimate child such a big, giant, huge elephant in the room? I just found out what a family registry is but will that mean that Kim Tan will be removed from it because of his mother? He's still a second son right? Or can Rachel's mom take legal action against them? Like fraud or something?
2. I get why the whole liking the housemaid's daughter is problematic but what about the mom's disability? Why did Bo-na react to it so shockingly like it further degraded Eun Sang's social status. Choi Young Do also had a similar reaction. Is having a disability that terrible?
Thank you!
Thank you!
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32 snow_white
November 14, 2013 at 9:02 PM
By the way, is this really Dramabeans comments section for Heirs!!!! I'm reading positive things about the show..... LOL :-D
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33 Roggy
November 14, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Guys. I'm gonna be a shameless pirate and jump ships at will. I was all for the vulnerable YD but I so easily jumped on Tans ship when he found his balls and stood up for his mom.
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34 Anna B
November 14, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Not watching anymore - the plot in every episode is so repetitive from episode 5.
I'm beginning to dislike Park Shin Hye because of this role. All she does is cry and cling to Kim Tan. No variations at all. I get it, she can cry and act - but her role here is another story - not every episode.
As for Lee Min Ho, they a mistake of putting him against Kim Woo Bin - because the latter can well compared to him. The contrast is so obvious. LMH is a pretty boy, but it seems he forgot his acting skills in Boys Over Flowers.
Minor characters in this drama, should be given more screen time because they can deliver more than the main characters.
I'm very disappointed. No wonder, they cast a number of big names here plus months and months of promotion and marketing. they added kissing too. But, it didn't help the story.
Finally I can conclude that... i'm wasting my time.
Happy watching to others.
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35 Min
November 14, 2013 at 9:03 PM
the scene when myungsoo and bona bickering is so funny...i love myungsoo so much.
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36 whatis
November 14, 2013 at 9:05 PM
wow... i'm shocked that something actually happened. it only took 12 episodes! better late than never I guess...
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37 Angelica
November 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Finally! Gahhh! I wiped out my kleenex for this episode.
The subtle comparison between HJ and Tan. Rejected by the same person while waiting and wanting to be loved by the same person. If Won actually said those words about Tan. I think there might be a little hope for him to rectify his relationship with Tan.
But good lord? Won does deserve to lose HJ. I'm slightly confused of his relationship with her. He clearly loves her to an extent but has yet to confess those same feelings to her? Even though, Father/Chairman got to the raw and bare emotions. I don't even know. It was such a sad moment for HJ. I'm curious tho HJ becoming a teacher.... How will that go? HS's sweet moment outside her apartment a few episodes back. I hope HS is clever enough not to make such a scene.
I don't know if I'm the only one. But didn't Director Jung's plot to belittle Madame Han backfired on her? She's such a torrid, bitter woman. Her witnessing that sweet mother-son moment... Kind of but not really made me feel sad for her. I'm really glad though. He stood up to his father and held on to his mother
Gosh, there's so much to dissect and take in with this episode. All the repercussions to come. I'm excited.
I hope we see more of the soft under belly of YD. I literally replayed that scene over and over again. Kim Woo Bin. Ah-mazing. He was utterly magnificent in that scene. I love the emotions we got from the both of them. I have to watch it again. PSH's facial expressions and the breaking of KWB's voice...
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38 elvira
November 14, 2013 at 9:10 PM
“I want to party. Why are you crying?”
Say, WHO WRITES THE SCRIPT FOR GOODNESS SAKE???
I can write a better dialogue to give Young do a favor to be a human for just a second.
AAAAARGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
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39 Elise
November 14, 2013 at 9:11 PM
I was wondering when we were gonna get to the 'he who wears the crown...' bit, only took us 11 episodes!
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40 crazy4kdrama
November 14, 2013 at 9:13 PM
This episode actually moved forward. Yay for that. although that's great i'm kind of getting irritated with the love triangle. They should move it faster. Eun sang seems to indecisive just make a choice already. kim tan should understand when no means no and as for yoo doon it's obvious eun sang is not into you like that. YD doesn't seem to know how to let his emotions out because every romantic (for lack of a better word) gesture he does comes out as a threat.
As for what kim tan did for his mom, i know it's all great and heroic, but i was really cringing during that scene because i felt so bad for his mother. I know he was doing the right thing, but all i could see was how humiliated she was and felt. I wish the truth would have come out in a smoother way.
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41 LOL
November 14, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Kissing every five seconds... the writer is panicking rn lol
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42 crazedlu
November 14, 2013 at 9:22 PM
Lol. How you all watch this is beyond me. I genuinely hope you all are thoroughly enjoying it. :)
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43 noernov
November 14, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Are moving forward now??? Well it's about time ;)
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44 mysterious
November 14, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Oh Won, I was so in your corner. But how could you let your girl get treated like that. Oh that family is so dysfunctional, I don't even know where to start. But if he really said what Hyun-joo said about Tan, that shows that he probably does love his brother underneath. He's just lost so much that he views everyone/thing as a threat. Who wouldn't with a father like that?
My pet peeve with this show: stellar cast going to waste. Come on! You have Park Shin-hye, Lee Min-ho, Kim Woo-bin, Choi Jin-hyuk, and more. . . . and this is what you give us?! Did they decide to stockpile stars in the show to try to divert our attention from the fact that there really is no plot? That the show doesn't actually do anything? Nor do the characters for that matter? Will someone grow up and learn from previous mistakes? Is that too much to ask? Tan seems like he is on his way to doing . . . something. Just don't let him revert to his inactive ways, PLEASE! Eun-sang needs to stop running. Young-do needs to stop being so Young-do-ish.
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45 Yoon
November 14, 2013 at 9:34 PM
i only watch jo myungsoo scene part.this drama so boring
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46 Chloe
November 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Everything is just so dumb in this story >< Guh. Buckets and buckets full of tears. Meaningless words. Brooding stares. Annoying women. Stereotypes etc. etc. I do wish that the writer did a better job. Though the pretty has been upped here compared to Boys Over Flowers, I can't say the same for the plot. Perhaps even BOF had a better storyline (albeit farfetched) than Heirs. Come on come on. There's still hope. Make this story a good one!
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47 fairouzmm
November 14, 2013 at 9:45 PM
eventful and v. good episode. this is the first episode that almost all the characters different emotional state and reaction.
my favorite scene is the one between Tan & Hyun-joo.
my least favorite scenes r the slow motion repetition of the supposedly meaningful scenes, it's like the director is saying "DID YOU ALL SEE THAT? NO, LOOK AGAIN, HOW ABOUT FROM THIS ANGEL?..." I just close my eyes till it go away.
thanks for the enjoyable recap.
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48 Jaglaine
November 14, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Yesh!!! Way to go , Tan! Woohoo! That was some backbone you showed there, buddy! I loved this episode. Things finally got a move on.
But I was just wondering, when they were in college, did the writer and director ace the course called "How to leave your audience hanging"? Because if I were ES and the love of my life is crying in front of me, I would be running to him with open arms, hold him close, kiss him on the forehead and whisper that it's going to be okay.
Especially if he looks as beautiful as LMH did while he was crying. Argh! That just about killed me! HE just about killed me. Ahem.... okay, gotta get back to work now.
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49 Yggirl
November 14, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Because some of us girls are stupid. We want you guys to read our minds.
For example, sometimes I ask my husband to take the trash out, and he says he will but it's still there the next day. I will get upset. And then he'll ask me if I'm mad. HELL yeah I'm mad...but i'm not gonna tell him why...I want him to figure it out himself! haha
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50 Moonbean
November 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM
I am quite bust today so don’t have time to watch all of the episode with subs yet, streaming was driving me crazy last night and I missed a lot so I’ll probably come back to comment later. Just a few quick first impressions. I had a god feeling about last episodes and the signs did not disappoint me. That was a good episode. We finally have some development. Secrets are slowly coming out. Young Do learned about Eun Sang’s mom being a maid. Esther learned about Se Yeol’s family secret. Tan outed his own secret to Hyo Shin, Ra Hel and Esther.
* I wrote yesterday that now that Tan has something to fight for we will see what he is made of. I’m glad to see he acted as I expected/hoped. He has been dropping hints the last couple of episodes that he is thinking to find a way to be with Eun Sang. He told Eun Sang he is looking for a way to open all the closed doors to her, he told Ra Hel he is looking for a way to protect Eun Sang. He told Young Do he doesn’t have time for his petty fights, he is planning a big fight. So to accomplish his goal the first item on his agenda was to break the engagement. He did not act rashly, he thought, made a plan and executed it. At this point, Tan who has been criticized for his inaction and lack of empathy, risked everything for Eun Sang. For all we know, he might end up on the streets along with Eun Sang and her mother. He broke his engagement and did it in a way the in-laws cannot object. He used his illegitimacy to do that and did not involve Eun Sang’s name in it so more points to him on that. And we knew this was coming because he tested it first. He revealed the truth to Hyo Shin (I laughed that all he cared was whether he would be nervous, he didn’t even wait for Hyo Shin’s reaction), he organized a dinner in the privacy of his home (although that might have been revengeful mother’s doing) and introduced his mom to the in laws. Through this he not only broke the engagement but also showed to his father his objection to the way his mom is treated by both him and his wife. So she is good enough to sleep with, have a child from but has to be hidden away when that child’s in-laws come in? Did they really think that they could marry Tan without revealing that truth? I did write yesterday I like Tan’s honesty. He did not reveal the truth to Ra Hel before because it is not only his secret and he had no intention of marrying Ra Hel anyway so she did not need to know. I loved the fact that he also talked to his mom before because it’s their secret. He confirmed that she does not like being hidden away like that. Tan has now made a stand against his father on this marriage and the secret of his illegitimacy. And as far as I could see he did not even flinch at his father’s slaps. Also with this move one secret Young Do kept trying to use against him started to lose its power. It is good for Tan in the future anyway. Sure, some people may look down on him but with the amount of money he has it won’t have much effect on him. Like any secret, it’s better to be outed by you at a time of your choosing so that it cannot be used by your enemies in the wrong time against you. What was done to supposedly protect him initially was becoming his soft underbelly.
* The brothers are on the way to reconciliation. Yay! This episode we saw two most normal interactions between them so far. Two encounters which did not include undercurrents of “you are not my brother”, “we are not family” etc. Rather than holding onto his brother as Hyun Joo requested Tan ratted on her which made me laugh thinking of his pursuit of Eun Sang. Won warned Tan about dad’s tailing them (Yay for brothers uniting against the father), Tan took care of big bro’s girlfriend. Bet that will continue at school. I wonder if Hyo Shin knows about Won and how conflicted Tan is going to feel about him liking his brother’s love. Anyway, back to Tan-Won. I wondered whether Tan thought his dad might know about him and Eun Sang after hyung’s warning. Poor Tan was so affected to hear that Won talked of him to his girl, in such an affectionate way, too. I knew Won’s anger towards Tan was all show but hyung don’t be so childish and hug your brother back! Won was friendlier during golf as well. He actually trusted Tan on business matters.
* Won seems to have chosen money over love yet again. Poor girl was waiting for him in that bus stop. He is making it really difficult to root for him. But seeing the girl loves him I don’t see what chance Hyo Shin can have.
* Young Do oh Young Do! Why were you so evil before???? My heart bleeds for you now (damn you Kim Woo Bin!) but I cannot forget what you have done. What a lonely, pitiful, lovesick teenager you have become! Your sadness that Eun Sang won’t let you close to her, your delight in Eun Sang accepting to eat noodles with you, your shock and sadness in discovering her mom’s secrets and your helplessness in not being able to undo the past... Young Do was shocked to learn Eun Sang’s mom was a mute housemaid in Tan’s home. But as opposed to everything else he learned about her that he immediately tried to confirm with her he was fully intending to keep this to himself. He went back to the meeting place only to find Eun Sang gone, just as she had warned. He was disappointed and got so happy when she came back, fully ready to go eat noodles with her. But Eun Sang’s reaction to his uncovering her secret hurt him - not that I blame her and he doesn’t either, he knows it’s all his fault. Because of this he is powerless. He can’t even pursue her as a girl he likes. Not because of Tan but because of what he did to her in the past. I think this was the moment during which Eun Sang started to see and believe that he really likes her.
* Though grudgingly I think we are starting to build bridges between Tan and Young Do as well. We finally saw why Young Do is so angry at Tan. It’s not so much that he is illegitimate but that he finds Tan responsible for losing his mother. Now they have this out in the open and Tan offered a cease fire I have high hopes.
* Love the blossoming Eun Sang-Bo Na friendship. Bo Na asks why she left the house so early even without eating breakfast (which I had wondered myself but thought she would think she is imposing enough already. I remembered the way she tried to pay Tan for everything back in LA), Eun Sang describes her as a friend with a pretty face and a heart. Then Bo Na tells her the big news that Young Do likes her. Such a girlfriendly thing to do. And she got so sweet that she even said to Tan and Eun Sang they don’t need to avoid each other’s gazes for her sake. Haha. I expected she would be a big supporter of this relationship because that meant Eun Sang wouldn’t be a threat to her relationship. That might also be a factor in her warming up to Eun Sang. I also like that she is still her old self with the comment she made abput how Tan came to see her!
* Did Tan really think Eun Sang went to Young Do in her time of distress? I mean really Tan!
* Young Do saw firsthand how miserable Tan and Eun Sang are when they are apart.
* I was surprised that Eun Sang knew Young Do ranked 98th in the exam. Did she see it accidentally when she was looking for Tan’s name?
* LOL at Tan’s mom’s face when he said Eun Sang’s socks are his. Haha.
* I was wondering whether Tan would call Eun Sang’s mom omoni, Young Do beat him to it at his first encounter.
* I found the golf scene funny in an ironic way because of the instructions both boys were given and what they actually fought over.
*Papa Kim infuriated both his sons. If he disinherits both he won’t have an heir left. Anyway can he disinherit them if he already gave them company shares? Does Won have to be CEO? Wouldn’t he be rich enough with his shares if he just left everything for the girl he likes?
* Tan, you think you are so smooth. Ignoring Eun Sang in the corridor and coming to the broadcast room 5 minutes later. The talk between Tan and Hyo Shin was so funny. I like how Hyo Shin keeps making innuendoes and comments to Tan about Eun Sang. “Dirty, dangerous, passionate love” indeed.
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