Master’s Sun: Episode 15
by javabeans
It feels like a mini-finale of sorts, resolving one of our long-running mysteries and affording our characters some closure. I like that we get to put the necklace-kidnapping-twins plot behind us now, because while it served its purpose in moving us along, it’s also nice to get that lesser conflict out of the way before we hit finale week—when you leave everything till the last minute, often things don’t feel adequately gratifying because we’re rushing to hit all the points. I’m crossing my fingers that this means next week we’ll get to devote ourselves fully to the main couple. And you know, if they run out of material, I wouldn’t say no to some fanservice makeout sessions, you know. Just sayin’.
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EPISODE 15 RECAP
Joong-won stops Gong-shil from throwing her necklace away, telling her that she’s supposed to be a wreck without him since he’s a unique and special person to her. Gong-shil keeps her stern face on and says that she’d only be mildly disappointed without him, not heartbroken to death, and that she’d been about to toss the necklace. Joong-won bristles—he’d been hustling his ass to find the missing pieces, and she’s just going to throw that away?
She carelessly hands him the necklace and tells him to do whatever he wants with it. So he calls her bluff, threatening to throw it over the railing… while Gong-shil looks stricken… and HE looks stricken… gah don’t play chicken with your hearts!
Then he fakes sudden back pain and doubles over. Oh, I LOVE HIM. Always pretending he doesn’t care and then giving her one more chance, just one more chance…
Gong-shil rushes to check on him as he exaggerates his injury and slings his arm around her, taking thorough advantage of the excuse. She offers to call help, and he argues that she should take care of him since she’s the reason for the injruy. Off they go, with him faking cries of pain the whole way, lol.
Joong-won insists that she drive him home, then places a hand on her shoulder with the excuse that it’s to ward ghosts away. Aw, and then he brushes her hair with his finger when she’s not looking.
Back at the hotel party, Aunt apologizes to Hanna for Joong-won’s sudden departure. Uncle plays the imp and emphasizes Joong-won’s connection to Gong-shil (love him being the sly saboteur), which offers Hanna the surprising tidbit that Gong-shil was the reason Joong-won got injured.
And finally, we get clarification on the twins’ identities and motives in a flashback, where the twins are conveniently color-coded as Good and Evil: the now-dead girl in white, and the Hanna we know in black. But curiously (unless you’ve anticipated this twist, and a lot of you have), the Good Twin calls the Bad Twin Hee-joo… which means that somewhere along the way, these names got swapped.
Good Twin (Hanna) tells Bad Twin (Hee-joo, who is now Hanna) that she wants to come clean about her real identity to Joong-won. Ah, Good Twin gave him the wrong name when they met, so he thinks he loves Hee-joo. Now Bad Twin is in the picture with that name, and she seems to enjoy his misdirected love. Bitch!
Secretary Kim explains to Kang Woo how Good Hanna grew up in England, while Bad Hee-joo grew up in a Korean orphanage. Before he had the chance to meet the lost sister, Hanna returned to England and told him that Hee-joo died. That’s when he noticed she was different, and they fell out of touch shortly thereafter.
Kang Woo supposes that Bad Hanna (er, the real Hee-joo) is the co-kidnapper, and cautions Secretary Kim about revealing his blood ties to Joong-won. It’s quite possible that he’d misunderstand and think he had ulterior motives all these years.
Gong-shil helps Joong-won home, then tries to leave. He shoves her in a chair and bolts up to grab drinks, no longer pretending to be hurt. She comments on it, and he points out that they both knew why he was doing it and yet she came with him anyway. Well he has a point.
Joong-won sits her down to clarify where they stand, understanding that she must have gotten scared off by his near-death. He tells her not to feel too guilty because he bears blame for rushing headlong into the situation, and will be careful in the future. He admits that when he’d anticipated that they’d end things at some point he’d wanted to keep one foot out the door. However, after confronting death, “I knew for certain—I don’t want to end things with you. I won’t end things. Stay with me. I’ll handle everything.”
Aww. Total reversal of the relationship burden, given how it was previously up to her to make sure she could handle it. I love how proud he is of finding this very satisfactory solution, and that all she has to do is accept.
Gong-shil pops his balloon by saying that she won’t just fall for him that easily—she’s not terrified of ghosts anymore, so she doesn’t need an emergency shelter, and therefore he’s lost his appeal. Ha. She compares it to liking a man for his money, only to have him lose it all. Double HA.
Flustered, he tells her he’ll take a good hard look in the mirror to find some new appeal about himself (aw), after which he’ll come to her for renegotiations. Hearing that he’s got no appeal is a serious blow to his ego, and his hand literally shakes.
His fix: Joong-won returns to the matchmaker to make his proposal to buy out Gong-shil’s contract, threatening her with bodily harm if she reneges.
Then he shows up at her door that night as she’s heading out for graveyard patrol and tells her that he managed her contract. Huh, so that’s the end of that? So easily? He’s awfully pleased with himself and tells her he doesn’t need her thanks—she can just add a few points to his appeal-o-meter. Pwahaha.
She doesn’t react with the big display of emotion he’d love to see, and he says wryly that it would be nice to hear some better words like devotion, sacrifice, love. She scoffs that that kind of poetry exists only in fairy tales, and that it’s nice to read about the wolf and goat wanting to be together in the book—but it wouldn’t work in the real world. Plus hers was a dark fairy tale, where one person dies and visits the other as a ghost, so she got scared and came back to her world. So he should leave and head back too.
Joong-won complains that she’s told him to get lost three times today, and that’s before they’re interrupted by a grandma ghost who arrives to ask Gong-shil for help. He indignantly tells her to pay attention to their conversation, and I love the look on his face. It’s so whiny and Listen to meeeee! But she heads out to deal with the problem, leaving him sputtering, “Now you’ve told me to get lost four times! I’m counting!”
He does, of course, tag along as she talks with the ghost. I love that he wants her to be scared so she’ll cling, but she barks that she’s quite fine. He also fidgets to be left out of her conversation, wanting to know what they’re talking about, seething when Gong-shil laughs with grandma and points at him, “He really is, isn’t he?” He huffs, “I know you’re insulting me! I can tell!”
They arrive to find the ghost’s son sprawled in the street, drunk. It’s not the first time Gong-shil has come to a scene like this, and she rouses him by pretending to emcee a singing contest—the drunkard pops up and starts singing on cue. She sends him home and he complies readily.
Today they were lucky that the man woke up in a good mood and obeyed, but Gong-shil says that he could have been dangerous—what if he threatened them with a weapon? Was Joong-won intending to jump in to save her again? That’s why she’s decided to stop dragging him into her affairs, because it’s more dangerous when they’re together—he can’t see and hear the things she can.
Offering his hand, Joong-won says she could hold him and stop seeing and hearing those things. She replies that she can’t live her life clinging to him, because she has a life of her own. And that finally rings true for him, as he realizes she meant it when she said she was going to live without him.
Gong-shil says that she really did bewitch him with her persistent clinging. “I’m sorry,” she says tearily, “There’s absolutely no reason for you to stick with me.”
He concedes that her words make sense, and yet he can’t understand them. With hurt feelings, he heads off before she can tell him to get lost for a fifth time tonight.
Coffee Boy appears to inform Gong-shil that somebody wants to meet her. So they head to the coffee shop, where a nervous Chun-hee greets her familiarly and asks, “Gong-shil-ah, do you know who I am?”
She nods—she saw him in a dream. But he tells her it was no ordinary dream, because for the entire time she’d been asleep, she was with him. When she’d been lost in the woods, her spirit had come to him and led him to find her body. So her ghost remained outside of her body for three years, which they spent together. Aw, that’s so sad. I mean, I guess it’s great for Chun-hee that his beloved is alive after all, but he was in love with a ghost for three years.
Chun-hee (okay, his name is Jin-woo, but c’mon it’s Chun-hee!) slides over a photo book—she was with him when he shot all the locations in it. He asks her to revisit those places with him to bring back those memories.
Secretary Kim goes to see Bad Hanna (aka Real Hee-joo), and now that he recognizes her, she calls him Uncle. It’s sad because you can hear the hope in his voice as he asks what happened between the sisters, and whether she has anything to do with that accident. He wants to believe the best, even as everything points to a less happy answer.
Joong-won lights up to see Secretary Kim back at work, just bursting at the seams to talk to somebody. His enthusiasm is adorable, but Secretary Kim has his news to break too, and informs him of his relation to the girls.
They confront Hanna with the photos and postcards, but she’s had a lot of time to think out her story. Asked whether she’s been following Joong-won all these years, she says it was really her uncle she’d kept tabs on. He would write her regularly to check in on her, and she didn’t want to lose contact with her only blood relative.
She acts shocked that her sister would have orchestrated the kidnapping, but acknowledges that Hee-joo always was a little dark and ambitious. Secretary Kim confirms that Hanna would have no motive for going after his money, because her adoptive family in England was exceedingly wealthy on their own.
To explain how she first heard knew about Joong-won, we get a flashback from her point of view: Once again color-coded, the sisters watch Joong-won in a library as he reads. Hee-joo (dressed in black) is the one who points him out to Hanna as the boy she has liked since childhood, because Joong-won would come to her orphanage every Christmas “like a prince.”
Present-day Hanna explains that since Hee-joo never had the courage to show her feelings, Hanna encouraged her to be bolder. She explains her recent interest in Joong-won as arising out of curiosity toward the man her sister loved, and she had thought he returned the interest. To the contrary, Joong-won calls her a fake, though he will accept her words as truth if only because Secretary Kim vouches for her.
Secretary Kim is awash in guilt for not telling Joong-won about his niece, and explains that he’d initially sought him out because he wanted to find out about the dead Hee-joo. However, once he saw how hurt and damaged Joong-won was, he decided to stay and look after him. He offers to quit if Joong-won no longer wants him around, and Joong-won agrees to let him go. Ahhh! They clearly don’t really want him to go, but I suppose it makes sense.
Gong-shil hears the details from Kang Woo, and when she crosses paths with Secretary Kim and Hanna, she assures him that she doesn’t assume the worst of him. After all, she can see Hee-joo, so she knows the truth. Hanna asks if that’s really true, her smug look fading when Gong-shil answers that Hee-joo said she was here to “protect her co-conspirator.”
Everyone’s circling around to the idea of Hanna being the criminal, and Kang Woo urges Joong-won to find proof before Hanna skips the country. But despite being positive Hanna is guilty, Joong-won isn’t driven to take her down—which he can’t without evidence anyway—because he’s found out everything he wanted to know. If Kang Woo is so insistent on getting the full story, he can investigate behind his back. Kang Woo takes him up on that.
Gong-shil finds Joong-won in a down mood, not wanting to think about Hee-joo anymore. In the brief time he was dead, he saw her and recovered his ability to read—thus he no longer hates her and wants to move on.
Gong-shil’s point is that he still doesn’t understand Hee-joo’s motivation for acting as she did, but just then the ghost of Hee-joo (Good Hanna) materializes and shakes her head sadly to keep Gong-shil from pressing. He tells Gong-shil, “Don’t see dead people anymore” and touches her shoulder, making the ghost disappear.
Gong-shil agrees that she doesn’t want to force him to understand the things she sees. She’d wanted to solve this one case for him, but her radar is no longer needed. He says insistently that the more she tries to understand the ghosts, the less she needs him. Aw.
“But you’ve become more comfortable,” she points out. “The less use we are to each other, the easier our lives will become.”
Kang Woo puts in his resignation at work, then hears from Yi-ryung that she’s going to the States after all. She asks for a last meal together, picking a simple snack place that he rents out for her sake. He suggests that they treat their relationship like high schoolers who went on a couple of dates and parted ways—light and fleeting. The minute he steps aside, Yi-ryung furtively spikes the cola with soju, muttering that she’s no high schooler, haha.
It’s not until the soda’s gone and he’s droopy-eyed that she tells him about spiking the drinks, and asks why he doesn’t like her—doesn’t he think she’s pretty? He says that she is, but he has somebody else he wants to protect, “Even if she doesn’t know I’m protecting her.” He sighs that he’s all prepared to help if she’d only call out for him, but she doesn’t. So he just hopes she’ll become safe so that he can leave his guard post.
Gong-shil tells her unni about the man who can see ghosts who wants to take her abroad to revisit those locations in his photos. Her sister supposes that it’ll be nice to be with someone who understands her situation, but on the other hand, can she leave behind the man she loves to go with Chun-hee?
Gong-shil says she can’t stay with someone who sees and hears things that he doesn’t want to know about—they won’t be able to be comfortable.
She packs her things and gets ready to leave, only to be confronted with Hee-joo’s ghost. Er, Hanna’s. This is getting confusing. Good Hanna appears to make a plea to use her body again, and Gong-shil again refuses. But Good Hanna is desperate today and apologizes as she zooms into the body anyway. Can she possess her like that? Did the soul take?
Joong-won heads to the airport to intercept Bad Hanna before she skips the country. He hadn’t wanted to hurt Secretary Kim or take it to the police, so he’s here with a third option: Settle everything here, now. He holds out his hand and asks for the necklace and her exit, in that order.
When she mentions Gong-shil’s name, he snaps at her not to involve her in this, and Bad Hanna says that he must have forgotten all about Hee-joo. He makes the barb that although they were twins, he never once looked at her with interest.
Hanna’s face hardens, and she offers up the full truth: that the girl he loved wasn’t Hee-joo but Hanna. She tells the story in the third person, of how Good Hanna had seen her sister pining after Joong-won and approached him to get the ball rolling, only those two fell in love. Hanna was the girl who had everything, and she ended up with Joong-won too—stealing him away from dark, unhappy Hee-joo. Thus the whole plan was conceived out of Hee-joo’s anger.
Joong-won protests that it was a conspiracy between both sisters, but (Bad) Hanna says that Hee-joo did everything on her own. “Think back and remember,” she tells him, “that girl you liked. One of the two died—you saw it with your own eyes. Which girl do you suppose died?”
Narrowing his eyes, he asks if she’s really Hee-joo. She answers, “I’m the nice Hanna. The one who died was the bad Hee-joo. That’s what you’ve known for the past fifteen years, that the dead girl was the bitch. If the one who died was the nice one, it’s too tragic.”
In a flashback, we see the aftermath of the car crash. Good Hanna is injured in the passenger’s seat while masked Hee-joo staggers out and reveals her face to her sister, who’s shocked at the discovery—so it really was all her own design. “Cha Hee-joo dies here,” she tells Hanna, threatening to kill Joong-won if her sister doesn’t go along with it. Yeeesh. She’s actually worse than we’d thought.
(Current) Hanna claims to be the real Hanna, who’d returned to claim Joong-won’s heart only to find some other woman worming her way next to him. Joong-won doesn’t buy it, calling her a fake, and asks if it’s true that the girl died because of him. She says yes.
As Bad Hanna walks away, someone calls to her, “Cha Hee-joo.” It’s Gong-shil, but it only takes a few key phrases to convince Bad Hanna that it’s her sister in that body.
She’s shocked, naturally, but Good Hanna makes an attractive proposal: Let’s go together. Bad Hanna can keep the life she hijacked, and Good Hanna will keep the body she stole from Gong-shil. Wonder Evil Twin powers activate!
Bad Hanna likes the idea, especially as it will keep Gong-shil away from Joong-won, and she reaaaaally hated seeing them together. She liked hearing about Joong-won being struck with the Cha Hee-joo Curse, and this way she’ll get to strike one last time by taking away Gong-shil.
Good Hanna asks Bad Hanna why she told Joong-won everything instead of just leaving—did she want to purposely torment him? Bad Hanna answers that she thought she could have him back if she returned as Hanna, except he’d seen her for a fake.
Joong-won wrestles with these new revelations, and finally recalls Gong-shil’s words urging him not to run from things that scare him. He gets up to confront his fears and spies the two ladies in conversation, beelining for Gong-shil… and gets shoved aside at the last minute by Kang Woo. Shh! Kang Woo motions toward the recorder in his hand… and the mic on Gong-shil’s shirt. Ah! This is a trap!
So Gong-shil isn’t possessed after all, and now we can see her steering the conversation to an admission of Hanna stealing her sister’s identity and saying, “I’m the real Hee-joo.” With that evidence on tape, Gong-shil says that the dead Hanna had been acting out of “sacrifice, devotion, and love” (using Joong-won’s words)—and that Bad Hanna hadn’t realized it.
Hanna realizes she’s been tricked and hisses that there’s no evidence of anything. But that’s when her uncle storms up with a small figurine that she left at her sister’s memorial vault. He drops the figurine and it shatters, revealing the diamond necklace hidden inside.
And wouldn’t you know, she’s arrestable after all, because she was hasty enough to return with a few days left before the statute of limitations expired. Poor Secretary Kim, who promises to stick with Hee-joo through this.
Joong-won looks shell-shocked by everything, and Gong-shil takes him aside to say that the dead Hanna has a few last words to say. The next thing we know, it’s Good Hanna standing there—presumably possessing Gong-shil—and when we circle around it’s teenaged Joong-won facing her.
Hanna hopes that she’ll no longer be a source of pain for him, while Joong-won apologizes for hating her without knowing the truth. Hanna raises a hand to touch his face, and I guess the universe is feeling kind today because it allows them to stay touching for an extended moment before she dissipates into the air.
Joong-won and Gong-shil are left behind to watch the aura disappear, and he congratulates her on a job well done. He offers to treat her out, but she tells him she’s leaving on a trip with a man with the same ability to see and hear things that she has. Poor Joong-won, who looks crushed.
She’s just glad she wasn’t a useless radar after all. She explains how when he’d been a ghost, he told her that she shined brightly like the sun. She supposes that’s her lot in life: “I just want to be a shining sun who’s popular with ghosts. But if I’m looking at you, I feel like I’m an unlucky sun who makes people die. That scares me and I hate it.”
She asks him to tell her to get lost again, and he says, “The reason I told you to get lost so freely all this time was because I knew you’d always come back to my side. I’ll do as you ask. Get lost, Taeyang.”
She heads back inside the airport, wiping at her tears, and Joong-won watches her growing smaller and smaller in the distance. He despairs, “If the sun leaves like this… it’ll destroy me.”
COMMENTS
I’ve never really loved the whole twins and kidnapping storyline, though for the most part I think it was used just enough to be relevant to our interests. Sure, we got more Hanna (the bad one) than was probably necessary (just how many meals did we have to see her having with Aunt and Uncle?), but for the way this storyline affected Joong-won, I’m satisfied with how it ended.
It’s a nicely bittersweet twist to have Joong-won realize that Hanna loved him all along and never betrayed him. I liked the earlier twist of revealing that Joong-won actually hated her (when everyone assumed he was unable to get over her), which makes this turn land even harder—he harbored a lot of unnecessary pain. So his first love was as sweet and true as he initially thought it, and maybe even deeper given that she chose to die rather than put him at risk. I wonder if this will make Joong-won more sympathetic to Gong-shil’s guilt-burden over bringing danger to his life, because the thing she fears is the thing that actually happened to him.
Hanna (the bad one) was a character I cared absolutely zero for—I didn’t even hate her because she was rather dull as a villain—so it’s interesting to see her given all this depth in the eleventh hour. I know the writing chose this route because of the way it wanted to drop its reveals, but I would have preferred to know more about the bitter sister envy earlier, because it gives Hanna dimension, whereas before I was just wondering what that evil girl’s deal was. She both loves and hates her sister, so I can see her feeling fondness while at the same time wanting to hurt her. It’s similar to the way she loves and hates Joong-won, and wants to simultaneously possess and destroy him. See, I would have preferred to go with that kind of twisty rationale, rather than the simplistic good-twin-versus-evil-twin dichotomy, as though one sister was lightness and purity, while the other was inherently bad.
I wasn’t sure of this late-game Chun-hee twist when he first showed up, but I like it better than the other storylines and think it raises some meaningful questions. It offers a great conundrum of being with someone comfortable from your world, versus being with someone from a different world whom you love but have to struggle to be with. The word that got used throughout this episode was “comfortable” or “easy”—she doesn’t mean that she needs Joong-won to sit back and relax without a care in the world, but that being together means that neither of them will ever be able to rest, to be at ease. It’s like living in a constant state of stress, which she doesn’t see as tenable. So being with Chun-hee would be the perfect situation, on paper, because he both understands her and loves her. If only for that whole complication where the heart is concerned.
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1 Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Mostly "Gyaahhhhh" I don't think I have much of a coherent thing to say about this episode. While Episode 13, failed for me to pull my heart, this episode definitely did.
They did subvert the whole "Adopted person is cold and evil" thing. But I kinda wish that Hanna was also poor, but I guess they wanted to attack the whole rich people have cold hearts too and the Candy Girl angle.
The separations... I can understand it emotionally this time, but not so much from the intellectual level. But I think the heart level wins in this episode. It makes sense this time because GS is not doing it for him, which undercuts Nobel Idiocy, she's doing it for herself, which shows all kinds of character growth.
They also undercut him rescuing her....
My heart hurts though. The break up feels real, which the Hong Sisters had problems with in other separation motifs. Will they allow this trope of theirs to continue to the next episode??? I need my Denouement...
And the other Master (since they met in a Coffee Shop, so it has to be on purpose) also gets to me... he's trying to resurrect their ghost relationship. (meant in two ways here.)
Theme: Separation. (One must move on once they've found a life)
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Nicolette
September 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM
But they're not subverting it. Hanna was the rich one and Hee Joo was the one who grew up in the orphanage... So the evil twin is the poor one. The one who survived was the Hee Joo who grew up in the orphanage. She stole the life of the dead Hanna by pretending to be her so that she could live luxuriously and to spite those that she resented.
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Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Usually in Korean dramas, adopted people are the ones that go to say, the US or Britain and then return cold hearted and evil (OMG, I have so many dramas to list on that.)
The original story of Candy had her grow up in an orphanage and still have a warm heart, and then chase some rich men.
So they subverted it there with the candy and also people who go to foreign countries end up with cold hearts when they return.
So it's a double subversion of the theme. The original Hanna was not evil for going to an English-speaking country and growing up there. Also she's a rich person, who had a warm heart.
Hee Joo is indeed evil.
Just for reference:
Thorn Birds
Who Are You? (First one, not the recent one)
I'm Sorry I Love You (which SJS was in. *cough*)
I Miss You I shut down sometimes after the whole adoption to a foreign country plot.
It's such a common theme, especially for the melos, that I get a headache every time I see it. Foreign adopted people are often portrayed as having cold hearts that can't understand anything about Korea at all, with absolutely tragic lives because they don't understand love.
That's the subversions...
This drama oddly at times feels political? ^^ Might be just me though.
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Hafy
September 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM
I'm sorry I love you aka MISA... *sigh*
I love that story and the start of my love for So Ji-Sub.
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Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM
I hated it for the adoption angle. It was a WTF for me. People actually thought adoption was like that too. Just makes me sigh and groan.
Best adoption portrayals out of Korea are My Princess and My Father...
Getting adopted to another country does not mean your heart turns to ice and angst once you return.
Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM
Oh and nice second place for adoption in that area, I thought I Can Hear Your Voice got pretty damned close and a clean view of adoption.
(And everyone knows what I think of You're the Worst Lee Soon Sin... which was a big sin that shouldn't have been seen).
JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Woa, me too! Gosh, he was wonderful in that.
Mariah
September 27, 2013 at 7:32 AM
I love that you're all "I don't have coherent thoughts about this episode!" and then write a pretty coherent essay. :) (not being sarcastic, I think you raise some interesting ideas.)
I've been trying to formulate some thoughts about political subtext in dramas, but I really haven't been watching long enough to come at it with necessary breadth.
I will say, as an American viewer, it's amazing to watch shows in which people of different class backgrounds interact, in which gender issues are talked about pretty pointedly, marriage is viewed realistically, etc. (Soon Shin was TERRIBLE, but I can't remember the last time, outside of Mad Men, I watched an American show in which an American career girl was portrayed as being affectionate, charming, warm and loyal (if somewhat cranky). And I just gave up on Goddess of Marriage, which again, so much wrong with it, but the take-away seems to be (so far) that marriage is a big piece of garbage for women, the man who'd be "hen-pecked" in an American show is portrayed as being kind of awesome, and it also gives a fairly honest portrayal of the multiple pieces that fit into the glass ceiling puzzle.
That and a few fanservicey boy shower scenes ... I'm hooked.
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Koreastina
September 28, 2013 at 6:13 PM
I give you the most caring, warm, loyal and awesome career woman in America - Leslie Knope-Wyatt!
Hands up Parks and Rec fans!
Also SJS is a sexy beast! And GHJ is the a gorgeous woman and a pretty decent actress...
Dee Leta
September 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM
thank You !
I've enjoyed the show very much.
BUT, I am confused, how can Hee Joo (bad twin) pull it off?
After the incident (kidnap...real Hanna's death ..etc...) how could she come back to England and impersonate Hanna? She (JH) had been brought up in a Korea' s orphanage. She may have had some education, but to pass up as a British highschooler? or (hs grad) with all the foreign everyday stuffs (language, behavior, custom...) unless it is to be explained that she went back, cut ties with her adoptive family, went to different places to follow JW....Amazing how a person from a limited environment as an orphanage can plot a successful kidnap, then suddenly travel the world poised as a person brought up rich since infancy...was she 18, 19 when that happened. How can we make it believable?
DL
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lizza
October 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Also,
Korean students are smarter and all foreign transfer students has to be placed at least 1 grade below where they should be because they are not up to Korean educational system standards.
Foreign women are also loose and promiscuous, especially American women.
The funniest is that all their devils, demons, ghosts,vampires, etc have blue eyes because Caucasians are white devils. I love their drama but I do not delude myself.
I could go on, but I will stop there.
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redfox
September 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM
arghh my head hurts as well. It is like the cup and dice game with those sisters.
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azurduyy
September 27, 2013 at 5:56 AM
I agree with Nicolette, they're not subverting anything, the good ol' resented poor abandoned child is not a novel concept at all. Both evil orphans and cute, loving orphans are quite common in fiction, it's only when the show/book tries to give some sort of depth to them that they become people instead of plot devices (like in real life omg!). In fact, if this is the kind of politics the show is interested in, it's quite manichaean and classist, so I wouldn't be so proud of that.
Hongs are renown premium clients at the Cliché Market, smashing our heads with supposed "symbolism" and "emotions" that ring so false they're actually hilarious. Tropes can be an useful instrument to get your plot going, but you need to put some effort into actually making your characters more than vacuous shells. Hong Sisters did nothing of the sort, both Hanna and Hee-joo are caricatures.
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Sabelita
September 27, 2013 at 8:58 AM
I agree with you,they are careless about secondary roles they are the background into a catwalk for Mr ceo and Tae yong what a pity..
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 27, 2013 at 8:04 PM
My heart hurts too :( Watching his face at the end just kills me, because he looks so heartbroken - it's not noble idiocy on her part this time, but it kills me to have such a great OTP separated like this. And the look on his face when he says she's going off with someone who's the direct opposite of him, use-wise - someone who can see ghosts....OUCH.
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2 KDaddict
September 26, 2013 at 8:27 PM
I really dislike that Hanna ghost. It's been hanging around looking miserable, but saying nothing. Like GS says: "Tell me what's on your mind, or forever hold your peace. I don't want to see you anymore." My feelings exactly.
So she is Hanna, not HJ, and she died bcos of HJ, not becos of JW. It could have been said 10 eps ago, but just gets dragged out, it has become a bore. I feel that it's a rather weak plot point too. A 14-15 year old girl planned the kidnapping to spite JW, becos he doesn't love her, to kill Hanna, becos he loves her, but only asked for a diamond necklace that she never sold, despite her greed. Now, Really?
I'm glad HJ is captured. I'd like to see Aunt's face when she finds out, but it wouldn't be as satisfying to have her be there when HJ is apprehended.
Now we'll have 2 eps of JW trying his damnedest best to win back TGS, away from a guy who also see ghosts like her, when she is no longer a radar for JW and he no longer a bunker. Now that'll be great fun to watch.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM
I think the kidnapping was a mcguffin/a fake out to cover the murder.
The fact that the necklace was never sold, and was left with Hanna support that idea.
Working with the idea that no one except for Uncle Kim, who was out of the country, knew there were twin sisters, so by killing "HeeJoo" 'accidentally' during the kidnapping no one would ever look for 'HeeJoo" the murdering criminal because law enforcement saw her as a victim, and even if Joong-Won had implicated her, they would not have looked for her assuming she was a dead accomplice.
The plan works well on paper, but it leaves the question how did HeeJoo1 plan to kill HeeJooHanna because the way she died seemed accidental. Also how did one tiny teenage girl pull that off over her physical equal and superior?
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En En Koh
September 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM
In KDramaland, things like that WILL/DO happen lol!
But the fact that Evil Twin decides to kill Good Twin is kinda twisted, Evil Twin may decide that she had enough & plotted all of these evil deeds.
That's why all along JW thought that the dead girl was the person who plotted it and bore hatred towards a person who's already dead. Bleah! Twisted, really!
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Len
September 27, 2013 at 2:34 AM
I thought that maybe she knowing Joong Won was rich and being angry he didn't love her she kidnapped him for the ransom, originally just wanting money to be able to live a better life. I think she was just using her sister, I'm not sure what the intricacies of the plot were, but clearly she hadn't revealed herself to her sister, maybe she fooled her into the plot in order to lure Joong Won with her or something like that. I think she originally just wanted to run off with the necklace. But when the accident happened it was all change of plan, realising she would gain a lot more if she adopted Hanna's identity. I don't think she planned to kill her originally, which is why it seemed accidental and spur of the moment. Like how would she know how hurt Hanna would have been in the car crash or control how injured she herself would be as the driver? And then she didn't need the necklace anymore as she had plenty of money. She may have kept it to sell later if she needed to, as financial security, or maybe she just felt sentimental about it. It did annoy me why she hadn't sold the necklace this entire time. Maybe she realised as Erika said they could have traced it back to her- the original plan to sell it was a just an adolescent plot where she might not have thought the selling of the necklace through.
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Cherish
September 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Her last words to her sister is too well-said for a person who just decided to steal someone-else's life. She didn't even bat an eye....
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bbeth
September 27, 2013 at 9:12 AM
I think the murder was the plan all along - because after she got the necklace, she didn't release both JW and Good Twin. And instead of taking JW along as security until her escape, she took Good Twin along, after revealing her (their?) face to JW so that he would misunderstand.
So another subverted trope is the 'powerful first love' instead of the nice-meo kind where the first love's memory lasts for all 18 episodes, this Bad Twin's first love that was thwarted had enough potency to spur her into killing & stealing her twin's identity.
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 9:48 AM
When she visited DeadHanna's memorial, she pretty much said the plot was to kill her and steal her life.
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karen
September 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Heejoo explained it when she was standing in front of Hannah's memorial. The whole kidnapping thing wasn't for the necklace it was to steal Hanna's identity
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erika
September 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM
The evil HJ did it to replace Hanna's position..to be a rich daughter of a wealthy family. She doesn't need to sell the necklace. The kidnapping is to kill hanna. She is smart enough to know that if she sold it...they could have traced it back to her
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jxng
September 27, 2013 at 2:41 AM
I don't think HJ is 14-15 when she planned the kidnap. JW is 34 in the drama (if I rem correctly) and 15yrs before they would be about 19-20. And the main plot behind the kidnap is that HJ wants to take over Hanna's life (who is rich), the necklace is just a cover-up to go through with the kidnap. This is why the necklace was not sold over the years and the evil HJ left it at Hanna's grave at the end.
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Glynicus
September 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM
I don't think JW will chase her but try this for a twist..after she has left GS then sends the call for help to KW. He gets JW and Sec Kim involved and the 3 of them have to go rescue GS from the guy that took her away.
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Ellie
September 27, 2013 at 6:29 AM
I actually understand the character of Bad Hanna. She's lived all her life in an orphanage while her twin sister is living luxuriously abroad. In her pov, it is very unfair. And given that her personality is already so bad, greedy and ambitious and basically evil, her sense of self entitlement gets worse by around a thousand times. With all these, she'd feel really jealous and will want her sister's life. Rubbing salt to wound, Hanna gets everything she wants and even gets JW, too. Mix all that with loads of teenage angst, unhappy childhood and crazy adolescent hormones, TA-DA! There goes the plot.
Or Bad Hanna could have just asked Good Hanna (let's keep this nomenclature. it's so confusing) to ask her adoptive parents to get her, too. Instead, she wanted her twin's life because of her jealousy. I mean Good Hanna is beautiful, smart, kind and rich. Who won't want her life? Though, only her would want it to that extent.
So basically, what I'm really trying to say is that Bad Hanna is made of EVIL. And well, it's not that simple good twin - evil twin plot. It's not as shallow as it looks.
My heart broke with JW in this episode. With Secretary Kim, too. :( </3
AND I STILL HATE BAD HANNA.
On a lighter note, I read the "Bitch!" part with feelings and did a mental fistbump.
Also imagined a sailormoon kinda scene during "Wonder Evil Twin powers activate!" HAHAHA. I love these types of side comments! Thanks for the recap. :D
Now for the final week...huhuhuhu. I'm not sure if I want to make it come sooner. or not. IDK! Damn you show for messing with my sanity!
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3 Redge
September 26, 2013 at 8:28 PM
Even though I understand GS's point of view in leaving, I'm still so frustrated by the push-and-pull between her and JW! Can't I just have some happy times? But I suppose this separation is needed. GS needs time to understand her past and how she came to obtain her ability, and most importantly to be able to stay with JW willingly without just having to use him as her shelter. WHICH is why I'm thinking GS will lose her powers. It's kind of the only way I see both of them happy together, with no strings attached. AND PLEASE NO MEANINGLESS TIME JUMP. OR AN OPEN ENDING. I want an ironclad, happy ending with smiles and hugs and kisses from our OTP. Please.
Chunderella... who are you? What are you? Are you a creep? Please don't be a creep. But I have my suspicions... Why come back now, after all this time? Hopefully you're just a foil character for GS.
I didn't expect them to resolve the Hanna story so quickly, I thought they'd drag it out. I'm definitely glad because at least now we have 2 eps left for GS' past and hopefully a happy ending for her and JW.
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Elyse
September 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM
With Chun-hee's appearance the first time, I don't know if I imagined it or what, but I swear I could hear ominous BGM when he started talking.
Oh gawsh. And they're going on a trip by themselves. -tears hair out-. I really don't want anything sinister hanging around Gong Shil.
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isnin
September 27, 2013 at 7:39 AM
I think we will see "the darkness will swallow the sun"
I totally ship Chunderella with Gong Shil, but I think he's a baddie and Joong Won will have to battle him for Gong Shil's love and to save her from the darkness.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this story plays out.
So far I've loved this drama. Maybe the Hong sisters have learned from "Big"
If they manage to keep the story together until the end and wrap it up neatly, I will say that they have redeemed themselves from the disappointment "Big" was.
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YaniahSahm
September 27, 2013 at 12:51 PM
I don't know why, but this new 'Master' smells fishy to me...
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM
I wonder the same thing. She's going with nothing but a dream memory and a book of photos and his assurances! She didn't remember all that--didn't he say something like 'come with me & you'll remember'? Oh, eek, don't go into the dark room to see what's there! I think also that Joong Won will save her, and somehow their abilities will be meshed & we will have a happy ending, oh boy! Really looking forward to these next 2 episodes, I've loved this drama and I ADORE Joong Won and Gong Sil!
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Anne J
September 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM
I think so too! I initially thought it will be Heejoo not wanting to leave the body of GS but the appearance of a more sinister character, Chunhee, makes me think that the "darkness will swallow the sun" is now upon us! I do wonder if there is another character lurking around that will put GS will be in danger. Maybe Chundee has a woman in coma somewhere or possibly a dead woman and he needs the body of GS to be with his woman!
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yahnati
September 28, 2013 at 4:37 PM
So far we've gotten:
JW - Trauma = inability to read -> death and resurrection = can read again
I think we'll see that matched with:
GS - Trauma = can see ghosts -> death and resurrection = no more ghosts.
All we know about what happened to GS is that she was lost in the woods for 10 days and then was in a coma for three years. Something must have actually happened to her to cause the coma. I suspect new guy had something to do with it.
It's very curious that he knew her name, knew enough about her to send Coffee Kid to keep tabs on her... but didn't show back up into her life for 7 years after she woke up, and only then after she'd gotten involved with JW.
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August
September 27, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I thought I heard background music/sounds as well. It sounded like the sound of a person hooked up to a machine in the hospital.
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Ennayra
September 27, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Okay, who goes on a trip with some dude they just met because a ghost knows him? Yes, she remembers his face from her dreams, but STILL. This is not common sense - it feels like she's running away.
Oh Show, please no time jump.
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Cheryl
September 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM
I am deeply uncomfortable with Chun-hee's whole thing of, "Remember me? Great! Let's travel overseas." Nothing creepy about that or anything. [/sarcasm] I was surprised her sister wasn't giving her a hard time about believing his story and being fine about traveling with him out of the country. Something doesn't sit quite right about how much GS has to take on faith with Chun-hee. Why don't they start with going to places he photographed in Korea that she was with him at, if he's telling the truth about her being with him? Start there with recovering her memories and then travel to places outside Korea? That's just me, though, and I tend to be wary of guys who show all kinds of interest in me out of the blue.
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owl.
September 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM
Another thing the separation between GS and JW does is it gives her a much needed break because her life has been so tiring, in large part on account of the JW JH/Hanna story. When GS said she knew Chun hee from her dreams, and he identified himself as one who lives in a world like hers, it gave her a chance to focus on her life and the unanswered questions. Chun hee is a part of that, which is comforting to her and sets her site on her story for a change. JW was shocked at GS's need for such a break, and made him see/admit to himself just how much she means to him.
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LizJ
September 27, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Yes, I have my suspicions as well, and I tend to pick this sort of stuff up on the radar before it happens. I think GS is in danger. Perhaps she was kidnapped during those 10 days, and while in a coma, her ghost "stuck" to her kidnapper.
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Cheryln
September 27, 2013 at 7:03 AM
Which also led me to ask:
Why did Chun Hee not appear until now?
And how did TGS wake up?
So many questions!! Hurry up and just show ep 16 and 17!!!
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Gidget
October 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM
A day late and a dollar short but it finally struck me, what’s been bugging me about the past couple of episodes. The actions of the GS character have abandoned all logic. Disbelief has been unsuspended and she’s become a character in a drama, rather than a (albeit fictional) ‘person’ I’m invested in. It’s a tricky balance that the writer/writers has/have suddenly failed to maintain. *almost seems like there is a new mind in the mix in the plotline/story development*
GS is supposed to be smart and insightful. She now wants to push JW away because she’s become dangerous for him to be around. Why is that? Because she’s suddenly started doing stupid things. Really stupid things. Like heeding a murderer’s request to ‘wait here a minute (inside his auto shop) while I go get something’. Or now, by saying she’s agreed to travel internationally with a stranger she remembers ‘meeting in [her] dreams’ but has no distinct memories of. And the audience is not supposed to notice that this makes absolutely no sense? Or believe that it would be a huge red flag for JW’s character, who’s so far been portrayed as a shrewd thinker? Instead, we’re to believe he doesn’t notice all of this because of the ‘twue wuv’ he feels?
There was a fantastic quote I read somewhere here on DB that said something like “the best dramas are ones that end and we’re left believing that the world the drama created goes on living after the drama ends”. In the last two episodes my investment in the outcome of the story has sadly dropped for that exact reason. The inconsistencies of the characters’ recent choices have drawn back the curtain to reveal the unreality of the show’s world.
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lizza
October 2, 2013 at 5:32 PM
One of the things that I LOVE about this blog andmy fellow beanies is how when I cannot find my words there will be someone to put exactly what I think or feel into words. thank you, I agree with everything that you have written
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4 zsa
September 26, 2013 at 8:28 PM
to tell the truth...the noble idiocy is dragged a bit too much...I'd like to understand it, but I don't. Because the choice doesn't do justice to their hearts, nor their minds. Such precious time wasted....my first sigh for the whole series....
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Min
September 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM
But I don't think she's being a noble idiot anymore. The truth is that she was a wreck before she met Joongwon and she didn't have a clue on how to live without fear, how to exist in this world when the other worlders kept following her. now though, thanks to Joongwon she was able to breathe and realize that there's a lot she can do and there's a lot that she doeesn't know about herself yet, so she needs time. Time to collect herself and learn to live without a crutch. and she also explained that being with him also makes her afraid of losing him, because she feels like bad karma for him. I think she still has to learn to love and accept herself as she is before she can go back to joongwon.
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En En Koh
September 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM
I agree with Min as well as what javabeans mentioned "It offers a great conundrum of being with someone comfortable from your world, versus being with someone from a different world whom you love but have to struggle to be with."
GS & JW does love each other and couldn't bear to be apart from each other but realistically, their dynamic is too different and it may take more than 'attraction/love' to keep it sane. So Min is right :) She has to learn, or rather both of them have to learn in order to find their way back to each other :)
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Emma
September 27, 2013 at 3:13 AM
But JW already loves GS for who she is. And he's made that pretty clear to her. So it's only upto GS to realize that. Moreover, for the two of them to get back together, something big needs to happen. That is what I am afraid of! It's not like GS will suddenly realize that she loves JW and the best way to protect him is by being at his side! Frankly, ditching a guy who gets stabbed to save you, tells you how much he loves you even in death/coma and then recovers his memories of you without any help from you... is not noble idiocy, just plain idiocy!
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Patch
September 27, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Protecting JW was the initial reason for the separation but now it's so GS can figure her stuff out. She can never be normal and she can't cower from the world either.
JW aka The Air Raid Shelter is an easier path, she'll never have to face her fears and she'll never have to become a strong person in herself. IMO the final episode(s) will be about GS finding the balance between her ghost whisperer life and life life- love, family career etc.
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Cheryl
September 27, 2013 at 8:24 PM
I agree. You can be in love with someone, and they with you, but there can be something going on in your life that makes a relationship just not workable right now (or possibly ever). Sometimes it's distance, sometimes one person is going through some heavy shit and is trying to get their head together (been there), sometimes it's a case of their worlds are just Very Different and adjustments are going to take time, sometimes it's other stuff. Love can't/won't/doesn't always overcome. It's not always Noble Idiocy to say, "This isn't going to work. We need to go our own ways", it's having the wisdom to recognize the truth.
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Heartoppaya
October 2, 2013 at 4:12 AM
I think GS has to figure out her mess, and that's one reason for leaving JW. The other being to protect him. He literally took a bullet-wait! No-screwdriver to save her, and she was more than devastated. She has to leave JW and her heart (with him) to figure out herself and to lose the ghost-seeing ability. They can't be a normal couple if ghosts still come after her. Yes, our smexy Master is a shelter, but still. Also, I have to say the last pic of JW. Broke. My. Heart. Into a million pieces. I hope Chun-hee is not a bad person. I'm ignoring all the pointers of EVILness of Chun-hee. Also, do I see attraction in KW's side for YR? If not, I demand so. The evil twin plot was ok, because I didn't care for Han-na at all (though I have to say, I had a bit of a scare for our OTP 'cause when JW woke up, the first person he saw was Han-na. I had a Midsummer Night's Dream-esque vision that scared the pants off me), but was dragged alot. But even that doesn't seem like a flaw in this drama. This drama is flawless. It is beautiful with sizzling HWOT chemistry between the leads, a well written plot, and super awesome second leads. I hated YR in the first episode, but I've come to love her so much. SJS and GHJ are P.E.R.F.E.C.T.I.O.N. and have the best chemistry I've ever seen in a drama. The last drama that had that much chemistry was "Veronica Mars", where the title character had so much chemistry with spoilt-rich brat, Logan Echolls. And am I the only person who is sad that cute Coffee Boy is in it with Chun-hee? Oh, how I loved that rainbow-haired, coffee-loving, always grinning teenage ghost. I wonder what his backstory is; did he kick the bucket when he was desperate for coffee in the art room (rainbow-hair explanation)? Or is he just an extra to show how adorably annoying a coffee (or soda, in the newest revelation) addict could be? I'd like to know more about him. That aside, I desperately want our Master and his Sun back together along with some hot makeout sessions. Asking alot? I hope not. Not with the series ending this week. And please, no open end. I have a love/hate r'ship for open ends. Hoping for the best anyway.
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5 yumii
September 26, 2013 at 8:29 PM
So the necklace (or is it the kidnapping itself) was the mcguffin.
The truth is out and it becomes clear that the point of the kidnapping was not the necklace but stealing Hanna’s life. I suppose Hanna was not in on the kidnapping plot and did not know Hee Joo was behind the kidnapping until HeeJoo removed her mask after the car crashed. Man, that HeeJoo is some badbitch—and I don’t mean it in a cool, hip, complimentary way at all. At the end I decided she wasn’t evil, as much as she was CRAY-CRAY-CRAZY!!!
If the calls go up today accusing Gong-Sil of noble idiocy I have no defense to offer. I still wouldn’t call it noble idiocy, mostly because I don’t use that term, but I do believe right now Gong-Sil is so committed to her idea of what is right, she is not taking the time to truly access what is happening to Joong-Won in front of her. Even if she has to leave him, now is not a good time to do so.
Joong-Won is in a state of devastation. He has cried surrender. [“I wanted to think that there would be an end in our relationship, and I wanted a way out. However after really dying and seeing the end, after experiencing that, I know for sure I don’t want to end this relationship with you. I’m not going to end it. Stay by my side, forever. I’ll take responsibility.] Before his surrender, before seeing how damaging her absence was to him Gong-Sil decision made sense.
Right now when Joong-Won is unmoored by the revelation that he was played by HeeJoo, wrongly persecuted the memory of his first love, Hanna, (benevolently) betrayed by the one person he trusted and allowed to be close to him in the last 15 years, Secretary Kim, right now is not the right time for her to leave. He is just too damaged and vulnerable.
I have no doubt that they’ll end up together and I’m trusting the writers to make this all worth my emotional investment. [It seems a scripted extension is back on, so there will be an episode 17]
The mystery of the kidnapping is completely solved, now the questions about Tae-Yang’s [Gong-Sil when I’m not onboard with her action, Tae-Yang when I’m feeling sympathetic towards her] accident and three years as a wondering soul. There are times when it seems Tae-Yang is more impulsive than a toddler mesmerized by fire. For instance episode 14 when she signed on with Madame Go without fully understanding the terms of the contract and episode 15 when she agreed to go traveling in a man who she knows nothing about except having seen him in her dreams, and with only the recommendation of a non-forthcoming Coffee Ghost and the fact that the man can also communicate with ghosts.
Growing up in New York City cultivated my suspicion of strangers. I would not have gone with him just because he showed me a picture book with pretty photographs of places he claimed we visited together and I had no memory of.
Perhaps the only way Joong-Won can prove to Tae-Yang that she isn’t a danger to him is by rescuing her from the ghost seeing gumiho/shapeshifter/werewolf/vampire/medium who wants her by his side.
Episodes 14 1n 15 were Joong-Won’s episodes and SJS really rocked it. He was wonderful in the comedic moments, faking back pain so that Tae-Yang would go home with him, and heartrending in the moving moments, when he watched Tae-Yang walk away (maybe) forever. There were just too many soul-aching moment in his performance to point out, except by saying passim.
I wonder if learning that Hanna died because of him [HeeJoo’s last mindf**k ] makes Joong-Won more sympathetic to Tae-Yang’s position of not wanting to be put him in danger.
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Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 8:40 PM
I thought that GS made a pretty good argument that the break up was for her, and her alone, which undercuts all Noble Idiocy.
Noble Idiocy has to be 100% for the other person. GS isn't doing it for him anymore, it's clear. She's doing it for her own sake. Easier to stop it now type of thing. Stop it before it really starts.
She managed to state that several times, even with him begging her to stay and have all his walls come down.
We, as the audience, need to know that they could stay together even without the contract or because of the contract only for each other... but I do hope they undercut the separation part a bit too.
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meanrice
September 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM
I agree with you on this. This version of "noble idiocy" is more like a realist perspective. If she was not a fictional character living in a rom com world, this may be a normal human reaction. One could call it "the easy way out..."
I won't though, because as I was watching that scene I kept thinking to myself 'this is how people talk at the end of their relationships when they realized they wasted time and should have realized how different they were in the first place and that it would not last.' And that thought was a total DOWNER. WTF???
Of course the sun and her master must be together. I have spent at least 15 hours invested in that inevitability. And they will have oodles of babies and pet wolves and goats that coalesce in a ghost friendly kingdom.
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damianna
September 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM
like. her noble idiocy is not something i can easily understand at first. but yes it's for both of them. it helps that she didn't coat her noble-idiocy with lies but by being honest about their situation. but she didn't honestly tell him that she too loves him =(
i hope the separation is a brief one.
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PlumWine
September 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Ok, I get that she is doing it for herself, but why go away from someone you REALLY love? If she just wants time to find her balance, fine, I get that. She makes it seem permanent. We all live in a world without knowing our expiration date, you don't avoid love because of what might happen.
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PlumWine
September 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Sorry. Still really frustrated.
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damianna
September 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM
haha. i feel you. we all are crazy trying to rationalize this.
and it won't be permanent. never!
Glomp
September 27, 2013 at 1:51 AM
Hm...I guess it's because she really, really loves him that it makes it hard for her to drag him into her world and potentially endanger his life. We saw how devastated she was when she thought he died in the hospital scene. Not only was she sad, but she was probably also blaming herself over and over again for his "death". So the separation was really a decision for herself as she didn't want to be "an unlucky sun who makes people die".
And Gong Shi probably thought that the reason why she was an unlucky sun to Joong Won was because they lived in different worlds; they see and hear different things. She had been emphasizing this throughout the episode. Thus, she decided to go on a trip with someone who sees and hears the same things as she did.
Well, hopefully by doing so, she would realise that despite being in the company of someone who sees and hears the same things as her, she was not living any "easier" or "comfortable" than when she was with Joong Won. Life would be bitter as a certain someone was not by her side... ...
Just my two-cents worth... ...
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Jaglaine
September 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM
I agree with you. She's doing it for him. She's doing it because the love of her life actually died. The devastation she felt, knowing that he's dead, gave her the strength to cut herself off from his life.
It doesn't matter if they're not together. So long as JW is alive. At the same time, she does not have to be scared all the time that he's gonna get hurt because of her. Herein lies some self-preservation on her part.
I don't think its noble idiocy, it's FEAR!
PlumWine
September 27, 2013 at 12:30 PM
@ jaglaine He could still get hit by a bus!?!
Please kdramas gods- that is NOT a suggestion. Fear does make sense though.
mother-may-I
September 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM
I think I am hearing the goat say "eat me to survive" and the wolf say "no"
Crazynoona
September 27, 2013 at 6:10 PM
NEVERR...they can't/won't make that separation permanent, we need a straight in you face kind of happy ending, not an open ending like the smart go figure it out yourself kind of ending, i want the OTP to be happy together making babies!
hhh...I miss the bubbly, giddy, touchy GS from earlier eps.
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Firdhiye
September 27, 2013 at 1:18 AM
It started at Noble idiocy because her first excuses was he will get hurt. Like he is immortal if he isnt with her.
Im just real disappointed in TGS because she is running away choosing the easier way for a woman that was bold, fearless despite her terrible life with ghosts early on.
Also she never told him about her feelings, that she feels for him but she must leave. That would be more understandable. She is running away from herself really and that gives the series finale story parts, conflict a bad ending imo. Ep 16-17 must be classic, best Hong Sisters in years to save the damage over the needless angst from TSG side in last eps for me. They did this much better ep 13-16 cycle much better in Greatest Love, Gumiho.
The needless mystery, twins story maybe got in the way of the usual Hong Sisters rom-com quality writing.
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Kris
September 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM
You have brought up such excellent points! I'm so thrilled that SJS picked a more popular K-drama to showcase his talents. He has picked some critically acclaimed but not as popular to the masses projects before, so we are seeing all these posts from viewers who love him but who were not familiar with him and his work before this show. Doing mostly movies, his two huge drama hits happened years ago (What Happened in Bali and I'm Sorry, I Love you), and many of today's K-drama fans don't really know much about him.
I have always been a huge fan of SJS and his body, er, I mean his body of work ;p So it's great to see SJS enjoy this much popularity and success.
Now if they will only show that shower scene, I'm counting on some gratuitous SJS shower scenes, Hong sisters!
Sad to see this wonderful show end, but excited to see how it will end. This OTP is one of the best pairings. Great chemistry and great actors! Kong Hyo Jin is one of my favorite actresses, such effortless talent.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM
I think the cardio-shock in the hospital might be all the fan service we will be getting--NNNNOooooooooo O_o
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thursdaynexxt
September 27, 2013 at 7:14 AM
Haha, yes, I think the costume department is being overzealous with Joong-won's clothing. The less layers, the better, I say!
"I have always been a huge fan of SJS and his body, er, I mean his body of work" - that comment totally made my day! :D I completely concur. On both points.
I'm not counting on a shower scene at this stage, but surely they've gotta show us more than just his ankles! (gosh, listen to me, sound like a total perv!)
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mother-may-I
September 27, 2013 at 6:21 PM
Perv away - we all agree with you
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owl.
September 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM
But she recognized him from her dreams. I think there is a mysterious, otherworldly charm to the possibility of having been to those places together but I am worried (notice, they don't appear in the pictures)
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So - if they spent that time together as ghosts but returned to their bodies, I think they would have to give up those memories or
In order to return to those places it would mean they would have to become ghosts to do so, and I think his intention is to do so by dying together ~
and GS will need rescuing...
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM
You raise some excellent points.
I do think that Joong-Won might have to mount a rescue mission, and if he is able to so successfuuly he might prove to Gong-Shil that she is no danger to him.
One aspect that all our main characters have had to bring along for their trip through this drama is courage.
Tae-Yang had to find the courage to manage her interaction with ghosts.
Kang-Woo had to find the courage to deal with co-existing with ghosts.
Joong-Won had to find the courage to face his past instead of running away or shutting doors.
1- I don't photographer man was a ghost. From the conversation I assumed he was in human form, like present day Gong Shil and I think Gong-Shil was his version of Coffee-Ghost except cuter and probably more sociable, if he fell in love with her.
2- Not troubled by the lack of human images in the pictures, because I assumed he was the photographer and Gong-Shil was a ghost. Ghost are notorious for not photographing well.
3- I think it is silly to go traveling with someone you've only met in your dreams. I would might arrange to meet them in a crowded coffee shop, but not pack a rollie and fly out.
4- For someone who spent much of the drama wearing a nightshirt embossed with "Jesus Save Me" across it, Gong-Shil should have paid attention to the title of the book. PARADISE. In Christian narratives it is where you go after death.
5- I wonder if Gong-Shil was returned to her body after wandering for five years with a ritual similiar to the one Madame Go performed. Joong-Won might find himself in need of a favor from Madame Go soon.
I made a joke yesterday that Gong-Shil may already be dead. I hope is remains a joke.
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PlumWine
September 27, 2013 at 5:04 AM
Your #4 gives me the heebie jeebies! Also agree that he may need to rescue her - again!
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Robyn
September 27, 2013 at 6:52 AM
To your joke, I had a similar thought: what if she's dead and is a ghost trying to help these people move on? But the more I thought of that, the more it just wouldn't work. Too many people saw and interacted with her. She can't be a ghost or dead.
But! I love that you noticed the Paradise reference, too. I'm getting serious vibes that this new guy is not good for Gon Sil. There's something about the coffee ghost that makes me think this is similar to the Hee Joo and Hanna thing. Like maybe the coffee ghost is trying to protect a culprit while also trying to convey some kind of truth. I don't know. Or maybe the photographer guy made a deal like Gon Sil and sacrificed himself to save her, but she hasn't been able to recover her memories until now. Or he'll help her recover them?
I do think that Joong Won will save her somehow. He looked devastated and I don't think he can let her go, especially all she's done for him. I understand her Tae-Yang's thinking, but I keep thinking, how could she walk away from this man who clearly loves her and has lost so much in the past day - Secretary Kim, his hate for Hee Joo, his love for Hee Joo really Hanna, and now Tae-Yang. I can't wait for next week!
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Maybe Joong-Won will fall in step behind Kang-Woo as they both benevolently stalk Gong-Sil.
YaniahSahm
September 27, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Yumi I think I am turning in one of your fans. Your comments are funny and spot on.
In relation to the photographer and the name of the book, it scares me to think that he could be a soul's collector that is coming to pick Gon Shil's soul now that her 'utility' has running low. She is more familiarised now with the Land of the Dead than with the living...
She is alive, but for How long?
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Thanks for your kind words.
I'm not familiar with the idea of 'soul collector' but your idea is very intriguing and scary.
mother-may-I
September 27, 2013 at 6:23 PM
"Ghosts are notorious for not photographing well" - pfft LOL
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chiomy
September 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM
I totally love your write up. That is exactly how I felt. He is at his weakest point, and she decides to leave him?? She is totally not seeing the forest for the trees right now. Also, I have a feeling that Chun Hee's character is doing this to make him vulnerable to further attack. I wonder if perhaps something is meant to happen to him and only Taeyang can stop it so Chun Yee is taking her away....
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chiomy
September 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM
@ Yumi - I totally love your write up. That is exactly how I felt. He is at his weakest point, and she decides to leave him?? She is totally not seeing the forest for the trees right now. Also, I have a feeling that Chun Hee's character is doing this to make him vulnerable to further attack. I wonder if perhaps something is meant to happen to him and only Taeyang can stop it so Chun Yee is taking her away....
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6 hotshotlover30
September 26, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Is it just me, or did the last three episodes seem really sloppy and off? =.=;;;
For example, we were never shown Joo-goon’s “ah-ha!” moment when he found his memories. Exactly how did he remember? What triggered it? It’s obviously not Hanna’s fake necklace. He’s seen it several times in the last two episodes, but it wasn’t what ultimately caused his memories to come back. Did he see Tae-yang’s actual sun necklace as she was about to throw it over the ledge? If so, why wasn’t that important scene shown? I wanted to see Joo-goon’s expressions as his memories started to flood back.
Not to mention, I felt like I was left hanging when Hee Joo (well, I guess it’s Hannah) inhabited Tae-yang’s body. What did she do while she was in her body? Did she meet her uncle and tell him the truth? Cause the way the episode played out yesterday, it seemed like all Hee Joo needed to do was “tell” Tae-yang the things she wanted to tell the others…instead of whooshing into her body without permission. Tell me, what happened after she took over?!
Also, I felt like Madam Go and Tae-yang’s contract ended up being so boring…I expected (and wanted) higher stakes. Instead of Tae-yang having to scout virgin ghosts, I expected Madam Go to ask for her body so that she can develop a business where ghosts can inhabit her body and meet people in this world ? something more dangerous to Tae-yang. Also, the whole contract thing ended so easily that I felt a little cheated ? with Joo-goon “buying” her way out.
Having worked in the Korean entertainment industry, I’ve heard stories about the Hong sisters ? about how they absolutely refuse to extend their series and that they flock to some temple in the mountains and cut off all communications while they write so that they’re not bothered by the producers constant nagging to make last minute changes. Therefore, the news about Master’s Sun’s one-episode extension surprised me. But after watching the last three episodes, something hit me. The lines and the flow definitely did not reflect the Hong sisters’ style. Then I started recalling a scene in “King of Dramas” where Kim Myung Min basically forced Jung Ryeo Won, who was then the assistant writer, to go behind the writer’s back and re-write the ending of their fictional drama to fit in that damn orange juice. What if that happened to Master’s Sun…..LOL
Aside from that, I totally can’t wait until the next episode!
As always, thank you for the recap! <3
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Stardust
September 26, 2013 at 8:36 PM
My one thought was: How the heck did Joong won know Taeyang was up on the roof? hahahah
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meanrice
September 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM
Ironic, my one thought was you worked in the Korean Drama Industry? What other insider knowledge/gossip do you have?
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM
And how did Secretary Kim get to the airport?
-BadHeeJoo is at the airport talking to Joong-Won
-cut to Tae-Yang is home packing-DeadHanna tries to posses her
-cut to BadHeeJoo end her conversation with Joong-Won and starts walking towards her plane.
-cut Secretary Kim is at DeadHanna's memorial
-cut to BadHeeJoo strolling in airport and hailed by Tae-Yang.
How did Tae-Yang arrives at the airport before BadHeeJoo can board the plane? Before BadHeeJoo can even go a block? Did DeadHanna transport her there? When did she stop to pick up Kang-Woo and the transmitter?
How about Secretary KIm? Is DeadHanna's memorial at the airport?
Maybe the conversation with Joong-Won with BadHeeJoo lasted two to three hours, that is the only thing that makes sense.
The timing just does not track.
The other thing that bums me out in k-drama editing is that they never seem to match shots. When characters are in a two-shot they seems to be within touching distance, then the camera pulls back for a long shot they are at different end of the block--I just find that weird.
Also k-drama seems obsessed with inserting shots of feet walking, yet the moment, tempo and mood of the insert shots rarely match the full body shot of the character that the feet belong to.
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM
At very emotional or significant moments (e.g. kissing, hugging, passing by an unknown but important other person) the film will show that moment several times in succession, from different angles & starting points, for emphasis. Is that what you mean? It seemed strange at first to me, but now I love it.
Ikr? about the walking. I think it's just the shoes, sometimes :-) but also showing determination, hesitancy etc. Just one more thing to make me love drama.
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:48 PM
I understand that scenes are often shown from different angles to emphasize the emotional content. That's not what creates a sense of dissonance. At times two people will be approaching each other and the two-shot will show that they are in easy touching reach to each other then the camera pulls back and you see that they are a mile apart.
I just don't understand. The shots don't match in the way I've been taught they should from watching American film and television, and that disjointed editing happens so consistently, I've come to assume it is a deliberate choice. Yet I cannot discern its narrative function.
JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 6:32 PM
Also, lots of things don't always match, don't you think? Day turns into night back into day in the same pretty brief flow of action, bandages appear & disappear or stay on for weeks of story time, people fall in the water but clothes are dry the next moment, fall in the mud--same thing. I think that maybe in their dramatic tradition these details are just not seen as important as the STORY and characters. It used to bother me a little but now these things seem unimportant to me, too. They even give a slightly other-world reality to the story--sorry I'm not saying this well!
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Snorting with laughter--day for night, mud for clean.
I view those issues as problems with continuity that are mistakes that happens due to a lack of production time.
The mis-matched shots are so consistent that I think it might well be a style.
For instance, what we consider a 'point of view shot' in
America, the camera looking through a window or a view half obscured by a wall, usually means that the camera is seeing through the eyes of someone who is spying on the activity.
I've come to accept that in k-dramas these shots have no narrative purpose and are done only because someone thought that they'd look pretty.
Kim Yoonmi
September 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM
"For example, we were never shown Joo-goon’s “ah-ha!” moment when he found his memories."
It was the scene where his reflection was used last episode. Then they had the flashback and then the reflection. Though I really think it was triggered by seeing Tae Yang wear the necklace.
He was told by his uncle and the matchmaker where TY was.
I think Hanna failed, and told Big Sun everything. GS called KW up, as he wished, resolving his storyline too.
The Matchmaker isn't so evil. She's shown that several times in the last two episodes. She match made TY and JW and even tried to deal with JW, this episode.
As for the Hong Sisters, I think they had to do rewrites to make the cliffhanger placed properly for this episode. I doubt it was an "assistant." their shows have never had quite the big ratings to ever do an extension before, but it has to be hell to have to do so.
Hong Sisters do refuse to absolutely do any SEQUELS, but I haven't heard about extension refusals. They do rent an apartment to write, from their interviews, and work on the scripts together without distractions, but it's an exaggeration that they don't obey producers and the director. I saw them adapt Hong Gil Dong to the director's style more. (Before people knew they could do a range). The ending felt more like something that director would like.
They do plot ahead, though, and have stated things like they know the ending ahead of time. I think they improvise a lot of the plot turns together though.
(I read interviews and reports from them, which I'd trust over fans)
Hong Sisters are usually good for their willingness to face their writing weaknesses and keep one on their toes. Also their funny--which they mix up.
Their weakness is that they will sometimes sacrifice emotional resonance for intellectual and also that they will sacrifice emotional resonance for the theme. (They also have signatures, such as meta and guest stars, which started with My Girl.)
But I admire their ability to do a rapid change of tone often with the same beat from earlier, they can spin the same plot beat so you're laughing, crying or rolling in disgust, etc. (Envy it.)
No one can accuse them now of not being able to do the subtle....
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123
September 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM
I did not notice any cameos from previous Hong Sister Drama.. appearing on this one..
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM
I think the rhythm of the episodes are off because of the weird stand alone last week. The decision for a stand alone seemed to have been made too late for script adjustments and reshoot so the episode was tonally off.
Perhaps the decided to do episode 17 to avoided the incomplete feeling having one episode for the week engender, especially as a finally.
But the info keeps changing so who knows.
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Trixie
September 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM
I'm confused. The holiday didn't just pop up. When they were writing and scheduling this series wouldn't they have known to allow for that? Somebody somewhere has to have their act together. The sisters don't seem to create by the seat of their pants so was this additional episode really an accident? Nahhhh
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM
As I understand it. . .
At first they were going to show both during the holidays, but they need more time to prepare for their next drama.
They wanted to do a two episode extension to give the next drama another week, but the actors and writers said no.
So they decided to do holiday programing and one episode last week then there was a one episode extension so the new drama would have the extra week to prep.
Then the additional episode would not be a scripted extension, but a bts "special"
At last notification the additional episode will be a scripted episode after all. So as of now it is a one scripted episode extension making the series 17 episode long. [until they change their minds]
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Trixie
September 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Thank you for the explanation. I am conditioned to a less flexible format here in the States. I think that much of the appeal of the dramas format is the known length of the story line. Much like reading a novel I know there will be a conclusion. If this ends poorly I will feel burned for investing my time and emotions. I have been surprised by how emotionally involved this format makes me feel. Only BBC series productions have so engrossed me before. As I have seen suggested I may have to review analysis' and let a series conclude and then watch it if it has a satisfying ending. Shallow I know but I do watch for the pleasure of a fine romance. I suppose the actors and creators want more complex story lines. I'm just simple. I need happy endings. Here's hoping we get one!
LizJ
September 27, 2013 at 6:54 AM
This post's a reply to Trixie, but there's not a reply button under her response.
It is interesting to see how the different television series formats in different countries. I much prefer the UK/Asian model of shorter series, which occasionally get additional (short) seasons, than long-running series. Doctor Who is the exception, but that show has the ability to reboot itself every few years, giving it the advantages of both a long-running (mythology to build on) AND shorter series.
I think US networks are definitely moving in this direction. The cable networks are already there in many instances. Seasons for their shows are shorter, or seasons are split in 13-episode blocks. And there are more limited run series. I don't watch "American Horror Story", but I know that similar to Dr. Who, the premise allows them to reboot every season.
On the broadcast networks, there is a recent move to shorter run series. Under the Dome was given a second season, but it was basically a limited-run series (and, one wonders if a second season will work). Once Upon a Time in Wonderland will be a shorter series with a complete story in one season (not sure yet if they will keep the end open enough for a possible second season). NBC appears to be going forward with this as well, with multiple short run series (Hanibal, Dracula, etc.). Fox is getting on board with a limited-run return to 24.
Anonymous
September 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Man, that conspiracy theory is good enough to be a drama on its own!
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owl.
September 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM
We may see what happened with Hanna in GS's body in a flashback, but it was clear to me that Hanna did it to set up Hee Joo to confess. So there was no danger to GS by having Hanna inhabit her body (as in a takeover, which was a possibility and a concern all along), because the goal was simply to trick Hee Joo (and it worked).
As for Madame Go and GS's deal - it felt pretty real to me in that Madame Go used her powers to make money in unconventional ways. I've met really weird people like her who use their otherworld eerie-ness to get what they want, and that is usually money. It's just that Madame Go could get more from GS because of her abilities, and she took advantage of that. All the better, in Madame Go's eyes, to free GS for the big bucks she got from JW.
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nasus
September 26, 2013 at 11:47 PM
i thought so too! this episode was kind of boring for me, probably because we all had been guessing that Hanna was the real HeeJoo for the past few episodes, so it was not surprising anymore when the truth surfaced. and the way Joongwon got his memory back, it was kind of bugging me, cause as you said, there was no obvious "ah-ha" moment.
nevertheless, i'd really miss this drama when it ends. Just like this one meme i found on the internet, it says "So Ji Sub knows what we will feel next week when The Master's Sun ends: Without me, you have to feel like you're dying." Lol.
I do hope the person who will reunite Joongwon and Gongshil in the end would be Sec Kim!! Fast, come back to work and save their relationship!! We need your magic.
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7 JD
September 26, 2013 at 8:32 PM
Plot twists everywhere omg. Gotta give it to the Hong Sisters though. The way they wrote and handled the Cha Heejoo-Hanna arc was purely amazing. One of their best works definitely!
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8 sophia
September 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM
Por Fin! Thank you for posting. My refresh finger is WORN OUT.
As for the episode…..heresy but…I’m disappointed. This was not the Gotcha HeeJoo! I wanted. Once you’ve seen the bad guy get caught in a dramatic FALL FROM THE ROOF (love you IHYV),.. the sedate sting operation in the airport where no one even runs or hides or fights or cries or gets tasered ….just isn’t doing it for me.
Also villain rule NUMBER 1: never return to the scene of the crime with DAYS to go on the statute of limitations. I mean REALLY Hee Joo? Really? You get caught with 2 days left?...for shame.
OK. Rant complete – now for the love
I LOVE JW. He is totally killing the sad puppy face. I look forward to GS getting over the noble thing and just grabbing her man. More hugging please. Also….I’m pretty sure no one has given a piggy back ride yet….which we all know is a kdrama requirement.
Yay Little Sun, I can’t help liking her. She’s so pathetic and earnest.
I hope we find out why those two can see ghosts (like a real reason) and also why JW is a human ghostbuster.
2 more episodes……it’s always bittersweet in the last week.
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9 Stardust
September 26, 2013 at 8:34 PM
This episode started off nicely, bringing a welcomed return to some skinship at last! Joong won's faked AARRGH made me lol and there were some light hearted cute moments...
But overall this episode, even with the final ( somehow not quite so satisfying) resolution to how Hee Joo FINALLY comes to pay for her crimes, least of which is how she murdered and stole her twin sister's life.
I really feel that it was a wrong decision to play one episode last week, because this week, we get treated to what can only be described as episdoes which does not work well because the pairs of storylines have now gone out of sync....
The question on everyone's minds now probably is - can there be enough content for 2 whole episodes more? Who is Chunderella really?? Why do I get a bad feeling even though he seems like a nice person?
How is it all going to resolve everything to what we ALL want? How is the master going to win back his sun?
Thank you for the recap! I kept refreshing all morning for it, to see if other beanies feel like how I feel right now after watching episode 15.
I totally understand now, how Joong won feels.
Ah. So bitter.
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10 meanrice
September 26, 2013 at 8:37 PM
I did not feel the emotion as much as other people from this ep.
I dont like the granules about male Taeyang. I need more. He has a photo book of photos he took...that he keeps looking at. Ok.
Secretary Kim better have a job.
Get Ready for a Hong Sisters Time Jump because they wrote themselves into a corner and have to use the device of time passing to reset. Gah.
Also little sun...dont be spiking people's drinks. Even though the fact that you did that was HILARIOUS, seriously not fair to either one of you.
Taeyang's sister looks nice when they take that STUPID hat off of her.
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11 elvira
September 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Thank you, Javabeans,
All day keep-clicking-on the refresh button...
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12 ck1Oz
September 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM
I don't want to be a drama queen but this episode has wrung my emotions out to dry. It's good and narratively I understand why it's good to separate and find herself. After all her life has been put on hold after waking up from the coma.
Is it too much to hope that the next 2 episodes will be pure fan service and have them together? They are magic whenever they are together.
Can't even think about next Wednesday. My emotions still haven't recovered from seeing them together and making her leave at the end.
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13 dionewyj
September 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Just watched episode 15! Just the thought that there would be only 2(?) more episodes left kills me! Though i can't wait for the happy ending, i really want to keep this love-line going on. (They even have a pretty close age gap - almost one in a million in kdrama world)
"just how many meals did we have to see her having with Aunt and Uncle?" HAHAHA! So true! I also thought they kinda finally gave Hanna that much needed background story when they knew she had to go this episode. It would have better if they fed us with those information bit by bit.
Aww So Ji Sub's angsty bitter face put to good use at the end... I feel so sad for him! Please let this be a happy ending so we can all sleep peacefully at night. TT
Chunnie is cute and all, but don't snatch Tae Yang from Joong won!!!
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14 KDaddict
September 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM
If Chun Hee is in love with TGS, why doesn't he come find her earlier? How many years has she been awake now? He could have come and offer his company, and help her be less afraid. Then she wouldn't have needed a bunker at all.
He has access to ghosts who can help him. He could be there beside her when she woke up. ???
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DDee
September 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM
My thoughts exactly! Why now?? Which makes me feel that he may be dodgy, especially since Chun Hee does such a good job at playing mysteriously potentially creepy guy so well.
My bet is that he kept tabs on her thru coffee ghost and only decided to show up now Joong Won is in the picture. He'll probably explain himself soon though.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Maybe he is dead and had to wait to steal a body!?!?!?
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Cheryln
September 27, 2013 at 7:13 AM
My question too! Why did he wait till now? And even ask Coffee Ghost if they have really split? Why not make his move earlier? Hmm..
Also, who or how did TGS wake up from her coma? Somebody had to bring back JW's soul.. how about TGS? Mind baffling...
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15 lula
September 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM
Who leaves the love of their life for some random guy that can see ghosts like she does?? Like what kind of life does she expect to live?? Noble idiocy my ass. JUST. IDIOCY. Was I the only one that felt that part about the new dude to be a lil too ambiguous and rushed?? I love that the psycho sister/ good twin saga is finally over. I was afraid that Ha Nan would want to stay in her body. This was sort of like a little finale but still do not see the point of that other man except to give the viewers a VERY thorough explanation as to what happen to her to make her see ghosts. Pleaassee don't drag and end perfectly or near perfection. Too many other dramas that will remain nameless have made me traumatized.
Lastly, SJS: I LOVE HIM. He was so cute throughout the last two epis. <3
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mary
September 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Narratively speaking, the conflict makes sense. It's just a bit too late in the game to be introducing Chun Hee. (Although I love Chun Hee!)
Will the wolf spend the rest of its life with another wolf? They can both understand each other and don't need to "suffer" and adjust every day of their lives.
Or should the wolf pick the harder path with the goat? The goat-wolf pair will spend the rest of their (possibly short) lives with someone they love, suffering and fighting to be together every day.
I actually wish they'd introduced Chun Hee earlier and extended the wolf-goat-wolf metaphor/love-triangle. This late addition feels like its just caused by the extension. :/
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lula
September 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM
You are right. Maybe that's why I am bothered by this new character. Feels like he wasn't developed enough, sort of like the secondary leads who feel more like stand ins then anything else. The most we got out of Kang Woo was at the end when he helped nab the evil twin. I know it's obv too late but I love when there's more richness to the characters without making them look like they are just filling space or some KDrama trope. Maybe she just needs to travel with this new dude and somehow find closure. Who knows? Maybe she stops seeing ghosts and can finally have a life with SJS. :)
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DDee
September 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM
Yep totally agree. Really late in the game which is why it feels like it's pulled out of hat, and unnecessary. Because if Gong Shil's main conflict all along was about being able to live independently, in view of them being of two different worlds who could never be together, that could all be resolved without having to drop in Chun Hee as another potential suitor now. OR bring him in earlier & explore the possibility of a better match instead of using Kang Candy rather ineffectively for so long. To have her ping pong between 3 different men now is a little irritating.
All of GS's concerns are valid, but I'd like to see from them resolving their issues together, not apart. This separation is not what I'd hoped to see as part of the fallout from the stabbing.
But having said that, I'm eager to see what Gong Shil will get up to next! Girlfriend is certainly interesting.
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jicachan
September 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM
So true. Why can't they never solve problem TOGETHER instead of apart (often with a time lap) in Kdramas? T_T
Often, when the lovestory is going fine and everything and they finally confess to each other, then it's time to separate and have some angst, dear people, instead of letting them be together, solving some troubles with their strength of love.
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16 tata
September 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM
THEY'RE BACK!! THEYE'RE FINALLY BACK. I meaaaan the fun relationship they have but at the same time painful. And oopsss, the skinshippp. Omooo. Hahaha. And Im sooo freaking happy. And it's the other way around now, Gong Shil is the one telling Joong Won to get lost. Hilarious! Still hoping that the push and pull would stop already, I feel bad for them.
AND YES. I knew it! Everyone knew it, the one Joong Won loved before was Hanna, but knowing it was Hee Joo. And Hee Joo is the real evil one!! That was fast. I thought she'll be caught in next week's episode.
So what will be the deal next week? I mean I'm curious to what happened to Tae Gong Shil the past three years she's at the hospital while her soul was wondering around with Chun Hee, I think he's somewhat inlove with her. When he was talking with Gong Shil, you can feel it in his voice, I don't know if anyone noticed like he's about to cry or something, my heart aches, dunno why. AND 3 years is a long time, Id be falling head over heels for him if I were Tae Gong Shil during those time. But at the present, its a no brainer, Joo Joong Woooooon <3 But stillllll, finding their (JW&&GS) way to each other is the last stop?
I'm wondering what contract Joong Won made with Madame Go. I'm lost.Someone please enlighten meeee. Pleaaaaseee?? My paranoia's acting up again!
JW's uncle is FTW!!! :))) I love how this drama gives everyone their purpose to the show. As well as the last client of Madame Go, his scene on episode 14 was funny, the misunderstanding and all. BTW, he was in Gu Family Book right? Loved his character!
That scene between Secretary Kim and Joong Won is heartbreaking TT As well as the last scene. TT INTENSE WHITH THE SHOUTY CAPITALSSS!! D*MN FEEEELLLSSSS!!!
As I have expected, this drama is such a tease. First you're happy, giggling && all and the next you're crying. Dammit!! Still sobbing my heart out!! No time left to be wasting time being apart. Holy guacamole, 2 episode left. It's not yet over but I'm starting to miss it already.Though I always miss it, the waiting and all. Ugh.
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KDaddict
September 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM
JW bought out TGS's contract with Madame Go with money, since all Go wanted was to use TGS's ghost seeing ability to enhance her matching-making business -- for TGS to scout for mates for dead souls' whose living relatives want to marry off. When Go can get a lump sum, a big one at that, fr JW all in one go, she loses nothing in setting GS free.
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Cheryln
September 27, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Not only the lump sum of money but also the threat from JW that he will send her to hell! Hahaha... It was a funny moment - his threat at her face!!
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17 yumii
September 26, 2013 at 8:46 PM
Fake Hanna or HeeJoo the Sociopath.
The kidnapping plot was actually a murder plot that used kidnapping as a cover. Very clever HeeJoo, very clever. Yet it remains unclear to me how HeeJoo PLANNED to murder Hanna, because the way Hanna died seems more a matter of happenstance than planning. Of course Hanna’s murder resonates with the one shoe off wife whose husband had planned to murder her, but he (thought) he’d lucked out when she died in the car accident and the presumption of her being drunk obscured his involvement.
While I have no sympathy, it seems Hanna can’t catch a break with it comes to attracting Joong-Won’s attention. A lifetime crush gets usurped by her much nicer sister in little to no time. While I imagine that must have been annoying, it certainly did not justify murder. Fifteen years later she returns and Joong-Won’s attention is focused on a badly dressed weirdo and no matter what she does, he still cannot see her. I’m somewhat surprised she did not try of kill Tae-Yang. Perhaps living in luxury has dulled her appetite for murder, if not her taste for mind games. Even at the end she was still playing with Joong-Won. He may not love her, but man is she going to work to get his attention by messing with his mind.
Uncle SexyLips and Aunty Pain.
Uncle SexyLips continues to be awesome and Aunty Pain continues to be unhelpful, and to my mind a waste of the actor’s talent.
Kang-Woo has moved fully into the realm of traditional male-second lead role, in that he has given up all hope of getting his heart’s desire and all he wants now is for Tae-Yang to be happy so that he can move on with an easy heart.
Tae-Yi-Ryeong
-Really love the actor’s realization of the character Tae Yi-Ryeong. In many ways the combination of actor and character reminds me of Ice-Cream in Protect the Boss. Both characters could have been written as two dimensional cartoons, but the writers and both actors managed to give us the humor inherent in cartoonish characterization and imbue that portrayal with true humanity. In Ice-Cream and Yi-Ryeong we get very successful people whose lives seem to be enviable, but in reality they are people who are looking for affection and attachment without much success.
That being said, spiking someone drink is really a disgusting thing to do. I have no patience for it and think it should be considered a criminal offense. She is a woman spiking a man’s drink, so maybe we think it is a lesser offence than slipping a woman a date rape drug at a kegger, but it isn’t. I really wanted him to have a severe alcohol allergy that left his body on fire and him throwing up as if to die so that Ki-Ryeong would learn a lesson. That behavior is just not cute and shouldn’t be shown on television without some consequence attached.
Secretary Kim—
-It was so sad to see Joong-Won enthusiasm welcoming Secretary Kim knowing that crap was going to hit the fan, along with all the other crap that had be thrown Joong-Won’s way. Secretary Kim is Joong-Won’s only ‘friend’ and confidante. With his relationship with Tae-Yang on the rocks, we know he’s going to need guidance from Secretary Kim just as the relationship fractures.
--I understand why Secretary Kim will stick by Hanna, but goodness knows you can’t help someone who lacks a conscience.
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duskydawn
September 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM
I agree with you about the spiking of his drink thing. I didn't pay great attention to it while watching the episode, as I mostly find her character harmless and comedic but hardly memorable, but this action puts her out of the cute and firmly in the creepy category and I don't care for it. No one, neither men nor women, have the right to make another person defenseless by secretly making them drunk.
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DDee
September 27, 2013 at 6:43 PM
It's the second time someone's drink has been spiked on the show! It bothered me both times...
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18 saranga
September 26, 2013 at 8:46 PM
so... the entire point of the kidnapping was to kidnap and kill good twin, not extort the necklace from joong-won's father? was that ever made clear? yet?
i hope we'll get more detail on the twins' stories next week. good twin obviously knew bad twin had a huge crush on joong-won—it's why she approached him in the first place, thinking she could help out bad twin. without seeing how their romance developed, i'm a bit inclined to think that it was a bit shady of her to have had a relationship with him in the first place...
i keep recalling that flashback scene at the playground, where one of the twins confirmed to joong-won that she only liked him because he was rich. joong-won stalked off, pissed, but she called him back with that "joo joong-one, joo joong-two, joo joong-three" joke, which was a surefire way of getting him to laugh and give in. so which twin was it? if it was good twin, it doesn't seem nice of her to say bad twin liked joong-won simply for his money. if it was bad twin... well, did bad twin ever meet joong-won properly in real life? in the show, bad twin said they had never met properly...
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Yes the fact that the kidnapping was a cover for murder was made clear to the audience--well clear to me, but there wasn't an out and out confession by badbitch.
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19 damianna
September 26, 2013 at 8:48 PM
'And you know, if they run out of material, I wouldn’t say no to some fanservice makeout sessions, you know. Just sayin’.
THIS! please run out of materials Hong Sisters...
it's only less than a week away. sad to finally letting TMS go. i'll miss this one dearly.
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20 Natalie
September 26, 2013 at 8:49 PM
Thank you. Thank you.
Back to angsting in corner till next week.
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spawn
September 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM
i second that, will be angsting all over the place till next week.
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21 opheliadrowning
September 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM
I don't think I am alone when I say that I love JJW. He's working so hard to figure things out, and the character growth. THE GROWTH! And the goofiness and facial expressions--ha! SJS, I love you, too.
And I loved the excellent moments of emotional "showing" and not telling that happened in this episode. GS says that she is crying for JW when Hee Joo disappears because "he is not good at it." He does not cry at the loss/revelation of what his first love was. That is in the past and he's made amends with that. But GS is wrong--he isn't "bad at crying," because when she leaves him, his eyes swim in tears because she is the one he loves. She is his sun, and the darkness threaten to swallow him.
Even though I want to flip a table at the cliffhanger, what it shows too is that for once, his "get lost" is not done for himself, but for her. She requests that he tell her to go, and so instead of him wanting someone to leave for his benefit, he's asking her to leave for hers, even though it will destroy him.
Selfless love and noble idiots. There better be some damn cuteness and making out in the last two episodes or I am going to find my evil twin and conspire with her to get what I want!
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DDee
September 27, 2013 at 1:00 AM
Exactly, I too was thrilled that he told her to leave because she asked him to! It's the first time I think, that he showed he heard what she was saying. The character growth indeed! He's come such a long way.
And speaking of emotional showing, how about the longing in that little moment of JW lightly grazing her hair in the car? That really got to me!! See, no need for soppy ballad, swirly camera or long moony starring all the time. A little goes such a long way.
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22 mother-may-I
September 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM
This episode didn't do much for me as did the previous. I guess it was because the episode seemed to focus on Hanna and I really didn't care much about her since she didn't do much for the overall story. It was nice to get that story arc out of the way but I think waaaay too much time was spent on that rather than the main characters. I want my skinship back!!!!!
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meanrice
September 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM
100% agree with you. The beanut gallery figured out this plot twist two episodes ago, which means so did other people.
Which means the sting operation should have been in the middle of the episode. It should have come right after we find out how Madam Go was bought out (his not so veiled death threat line to her had to stay in this ep) and right before we got some more exposition about Chunderella and his agenda. *grumble* and you know what we would have run out of time for? Taeyang leaving Joong Won!!!!!!
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I felt the focus on Hanna was only a tool for plunging Joong-Won into a really deep emotional well, and because if that it worked for me. It felt less about her and more about what revelations about her did to Joong-won.
I think this episode was about devastating Joong-Won. The resolution about the kidnapping that most people figured out two or three episodes ago was not meant to be an exciting narrative so much as it was meant to another quake to shake Joong-Won's foundation.
In his episode,
-he is rejected, and told he has no value to her by the woman he loves
-the has a double whammy about his teenage first love. She lied to him, but what she lied about was not what he had been condemning her for year about.
-was blamed for the death of his innocent first love.
-the person he trusted most for the last fifteen years has been lying to him all this time
-and the women he loves with all his soul has asked him to let her go.
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Yammy
September 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM
THIS! I think you have hit on what the writers were going for at this episode: to shake JJW's foundation.
Secretary Kim leaves him, Tae yang leaves, and even Kang Woo leaves. I feel like the scenes of Secretary Kim, Tae yang and Kang woo leaving were shot very similarly, with similar angles and placement of the characters. That sort of repetition emphasizes that these people are leaving JJW.
Even the ghost of Hee-Joo/now-really-the-nice-Hanna that haunted him also have left him after years of being around him. The annoying evil twin sister also has left. JJW is totally alone. Even little Tae yang is leaving, even though hers isn't directly related to JJW.
The kicker is, if JJW was the JJW he was before, before he met and fell in love with Tae-yang, all these departures would not matter. He could have been, arguably, happier that there were no people around him anymore. BUT now, these departures hurts him, showing how much JJW has changed and grown into a loving/caring character. /FEELS/
Now JJW just needs to clench his hands one more time and go after Tae-yang. And then really finally get together and marry. And make a lot of "little bunkers"!!!
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PlumWine
September 27, 2013 at 5:16 AM
Thank you both! This was the interpretation I needed to clarify this episode's meaning. I was too upset last night to appreciate the narrative, just swept away by my emotional angst.
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chiomy
September 27, 2013 at 6:07 PM
Exactly!!! I thought the same thing too in each 'leaving' scene. They were shot so similarly, it could not be coincidence, all in his office, all with him behind his desk and all with the people leaving making him be the one to tell them to leave.
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 6:51 PM
thank you all. These comments ring true, to me,and have really helped me to understand and love these characters and this drama even more.
23 jomo143
September 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM
Thanks for the recap.
I felt JW's heart ache in this scene: "The reason I told you to get lost so freely all this time was because I knew you’d always come back to my side. I’ll do as you ask. Get lost, Taeyang.” with the same intensity of TY's raw emotions in the episode where we thought JW died.
I understand TY fears hurting and being hurt that much again, however, I think she is missing something in her assessment. It isn't how much she needs him that matters in love, but how much he needs her. The second she sees him at all in pain, she melts.
How sad and lonely would JW be without all his besties - TY, Sec Kim, and even Kang? TY has to see how much happier he would be with her, no matter how dangerous she thinks it would be.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Sad Joong-Won is without Secretary Kim, but Uncle SexyLips is on his side, whenever he can sneak out from under this wife's thumb.
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24 katmax
September 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM
Joong -won sure gives off Spock vibes with his sweater when he helps Gong-shil with the drunk guy.
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meanrice
September 26, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Where is QuietThought? We need to talk about this and the Romulan invasion that was in L7CS. Alien races are in our Kdramas.
Wonder if that will be the trend next year...you know we had vampires, and time travel, next is aliens.
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katmax
September 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Maybe it hasn't hit K-drama yet but it's in J-drama. Have you seen Starman?
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Ek Ladhki Thi
September 26, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Didn't you hear that Kim Soo-hyun is playing an alien in what I presume is the Korean version of Starman?
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM
yes, omg, I can't wait.
lizza
October 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM
The original starman with jeff bridges or star man the comic character? If it is Starman the movie, I will watch any version and will keep an eye out. This is the only movie that I have seen that I prayed for a sequel
jomo143
September 26, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Definitely.
He belongs on the Enterprise.
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owl.
September 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM
I know, right? I was waiting for the hand sign and "live long and prosper" line.
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25 Mia
September 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM
arghhhhh . . . the next five days will be torture! Double stress with exams! just pull my heart out why don't ya!? I love you guys <3!!!
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26 KRushdrop
September 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM
TEARS.
SO.MANY.WORDS.
COME ON SHOW. Don't pull a MGiaG.
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27 whatis
September 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Whoa... I must've read that flashback bit 10 times before I was able to figure out who's who in the Hanna vs Hee Joo story... ahhaha
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28 KDaddict
September 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM
It takes a seriously sick person to plan a murder of her own twin! Whose crime is to have been adopted well, n to be a nice person whom JW fell for. Of course he'd love the nice girl, not the sicko.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM
I think it is pretty sociopathis to plan to kill someone and take over their lives whether they are related to you or not.
Were Hanna's adoptive parents dead. Didn't they notice her daughter was a little different. Perhaps her English was not what it was.
And Young Joong-Won, was Hanna's Korean on par with someone who grew up in Korea? Hanna was adopted at 5 and grew up in England, could she pass as a native speaker.
These are the kind of questions that come up when I stop being a good audience member and drop my suspension of disbelief.
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29 Luna
September 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM
My brain understands, but my heart does not!
I get that GS wants to be with someone who is from her world and that CH can help her find herself truly, but gaaaahhhhh can't she and JW just be together and not give a damn about the world?!?! My hearttttttt oh another week that I have to speed blindly through!
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Joong-Won is having the same issue (not understanding). Maybe you can comfort each other. :)
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2HooKD
September 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM
No, no, no! I already volunteered to comfort him!! :-D
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30 Quinze
September 26, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Was so thoroughly confused by the this evil twin plotline mostly because I didn't care enough to pay attention and maybe some of it got lost in translation. Dunno, just was always weirdly vague to me. Like you said, they basically used the eleventh hour to add the whole story altogether which doesn't really bother me but just meh.
Evil Hee Joo was always just meh to me anyhow.
I just spent the whole episode thinking JW looked like a lost puppy that's being abandoned. I didn't even like him that much in the beginning but he grew on me and now I'm sad that he's trying so hard and still nothing.
Partly I was annoyed with GS for her distance because why??
But it does make sense considering how badly she'd been spooked by his near death experience. She's of course being practical. But hmph, you left him cold!
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31 Garrdan C
September 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Thanks very much, javabeans, for another great recap!
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32 DanyDanyBobany
September 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM
y heart is broken. I was crying during the last minutes, all those goodbyes in the last minutes were the death for me. I dont know why but the goodbye between teen Joong-won and Hanna made me cry a little. I felt sad for him and a little for her.
But the goodbye between Joong-won and Gong-shil KILLED me. Although I know they are going to end together, that last scene was sad because I love both and I can feel the love. My heart was crushing and I was crying.
My love for the two during the past episodes was even, but this last episodes Joong-won took the lead. I know why Gong-shil is doing that, i get it, but all the reasoning cant stop me from yelling at my scream or make a nod of disapproval everytime she rejects him. Death is a serious matter and feeling guilty for someone (almost) death is hard, but looking how hard he tries, just make me sad.
I hope an hour of fan service the next episode. Ok, 10 minutes of angst an then 50 of fan service, because this two have the chemestry to fill 5 hours or more and Im just asking for 1.
Thank you for the recap!
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Ennayra
September 27, 2013 at 7:11 PM
It's like we felt the exact same emotions. Your comment captured everything I wanted to say about the last minutes of the episode. :-)
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33 Heartoppaya
September 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Joong won! Absolutely LUFF HIM TO BITS!!! He is so amazing. Skinship please. . . . .
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34 sophia
September 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Are they recycling the CITY HUNTER music? Am I so crazy for LMH that I'm imagining it?
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renzillag
September 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM
Some other people have mentioned that on different websites so I guess they are though I myself haven't noticed.
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35 owl.
September 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM
It's Master (from Cyrano Dating Agency), and I am liking it. A lot. In fact, this was such a satisfying episode -
-Hanna kept bringing up the statute of limitations for Hee Joo and Hee Joo almost got away with it by 2 days, but for the collaboration between Kang Woo Tae Yang and Secretary Kim (best uncle ever!) to record her confession. though it was a sad moment all around to realize the truth.
Tae Yang could do well with any of her 3 suitors, cuz dang, they're all so HOT no matter what! As much as I adore JW, I think it is a good dose of relationship reality for him to know that TY has other options that don't include him. But I am counting on the Hong Sisters to ship them totally in the wrap up as things come full circle.
It is such an excellent twist by the Hong Sisters to add a soulmate who lives in Tae Yang's world and holds the mystery of her 3 years as a ghost with him (I can live with that or should I say die with that).
I love how JW and Kang Candy have come to hold dear Ty in her world -
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36 antonia
September 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM
how many blows can my poor JW endure? and how GS can leave him like that when she must know he will be all alone and in pain
i love JW i hate to see him suffering yet i loled so much at his determination to be with GS. i can't understand her i just can't
i won't try too... instead i hope she will give JW all the love and skinship and support she's resusing him right now
uncle VP rocks
Hanna in jail YAYYY
secretary kim leaving JW: NOOOOOOOO
i'm praying for happy episodes next week
i also don't care if Hong Sis run out of material: happy JW and GS is all i need, if it's with makeout sessions and meaning skinship the best!
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luna
September 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM
I'm really worried about JW too - I really can't imagine how he's going to be dealing with this. He's already lost Secretary Kim, he finds out that his bad bitch was just a victim after all, he realizes he does want to be with GS all the way, and now she just takes off with CH!
Well not really take off, I realize that she is going with him because she wants to rediscover those 3 years of her life that went missing, and that she wants to know how she came around to get her skill, but I hope she realizes how much more pain she's putting JW through. I just don't see how he'd be able to function normallly and be business as usual after this.
I wonder if JW might go off to Madam Go and ask if he could possibly gain the skill of seeing ghosts too. At this point, I think the only possible way that they can be together is if he gets to see ghosts as well.
What really does piss me off though is why the hell did ChunHee take so long to come in to her life? I'm thinking he wanted to distance himself and just watch her from afar until she's come to accept her skill. But then I also am thinking, couldn't he have helped her on her road to acceptance? How was he able to stand watching over her, terrified all the time, and just not do anything about it? I can't help but think that there might be another underlying reason why he took as long as he did to come to her, other than to stop her from finally being together with JW.
I seriously adore Chun Hee since his Family Outing days (he'll always be Mr. Awkward and Weak to me lol), but these turn of events in my most favorite drama in years (since Nodame Cantabile 2007) is really just making me so angry!!
Sorry I get carried away sometimes lol.
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37 jetsetlag
September 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM
It's probably just my mind in the gutter but somewhere along the way I was under the impression that Gong Shil'd be "cured" if they slept together (not the way they have been I mean really slept together)...probably cause earlier her sister kept saying that she needs to absorb "male energy" from Kang Woo, and I interpreted that from the subs as an innuendo...
But seeing the path the writer's are taking I'm guessing Gong Shil's future will be more set in the ghostly therapy realm, which does make their future a bit uneasy.
I like how Gong Shil pointed out that she can't keep clinging on to him. Both character's have grown tremendously through out this series now that I think about it. Gong Shil's actually reached a point in her life were she has enough to sacrifice something for the man she loves.
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luna
September 27, 2013 at 7:47 AM
You're not the only one. I keep on thinking that if he knocked her up, their baby would keep her from seeing ghosts while she's carrying hahaha!
She did mention that his child could have his powers too, so she was hurrying him up and have a kid so she could be the nanny for it (back when he got set up with the fake marriage with Sejin Corp). Well at this point, she can just be the mommy! xD
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM
The problem is that right now Tae-Yang has not interest in being robbed of her talent. She has accepted it has her calling and wants to spend her time helping ghosts. What she actually wants is to learn how to better work with her talent.
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38 Jael
September 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM
lets all not jump to conclusion the Hong sisters may decide to surprise us and instead of a pathetic time jump Joong Woo may run after her in d airport he said it himself ''without Tae Yang i will be annihilated'' so lets keep our fingers crossed and hope for a lot of steamy skinship in the remaining two episodes. I wont mind a shirtless scene of So Ji Sub, hmm not at all. I'm off to bed to prepare for my 8-4 lecture, Master's Sun what have you done to me!!!!!!!
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39 Waves
September 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM
The Hong sisters are using too many cliches. There's kidnapping ransom, separated twins, selective amnesia, plastic surgery, and now switched identities. I just hope the ending of this drama isn't horrible like Big.
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jomo143
September 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Yes, romcoms follow formulas and use a lot of cliches, but I love these characters so, I don't mind as much.
Lee Jong Won playing the Uncle, for example, is killing his role. He is showing us how a Noona-dongsang looks up the road a piece, and it can still sizzle!
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Waves
September 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Rom coms have some cliches, but this one is piling them up high. I'll still miss the GS/JW couple when MS ends next week. The ghost stories were lacking, but I still like their chemistry while playing ghost games.
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40 Judith
September 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM
Despite the lack of skinship and cuteness in both episode 14 and 15, storywise I like where we're going. I can totally relate to Gong Shil's emotion of wanting to be comfortable within her own world, not wanting to cling to someone who might not understand her. This story no longer becoma a story of a woman wanting to protect her man, but one woman search for self-identity.
Me likey.
Now if only next week could come faster.
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41 Bauhinia
September 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM
Hee-joo grew up in an orphanage in South Korea, whereas Hanna was raised in the U.K. as a result of being adopted at an early age. Theoretically speaking, Hanna's English should be perfect without a trace of a foreign accent. That begs the question of how in the world would Hanna's acquaintances, friends, and family members not be incredulous of the new "Hanna" upon her return from South Korea?
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Redge
September 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Shhhh there is no logic of that in this drama.
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ash
September 27, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Bahaha! true that.
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42 Z
September 26, 2013 at 9:21 PM
That was the most confusing thing I've ever read. I'm still not 100% sure I understand the twins story. So, Hanna was kidnapped with Joongwon and didn't know her sister was the kidnapper? And Heejoo its the one who revealed herself to Jonngwon and "apologized" while he was bring held captive? Seems like Hanna is just a tiny bit culpable in this news for violating whatever the girl version of Bros Before Hoes is. You can't go falling for your twin sister's crush, especially if you use her identity to do it. Not saying that's an excuse for murder, but if I was already a bitter sociopath, like Heejoo, it would probably push me over the edge, too.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM
To be on the safe side, please forward a list of your crushes to me.
I think Joong-Won and Hanna were separated during the kidnapping. Joong-Won never saw Hanna/fakeHeeJoo, he saw the reall HeeJoo, who meant to 'kill' that identity and didn't mind tarnishing her name "HeeJoo's" because in essence she was tarnishing his memories of her sister Hanna. [Yeah, you are right, it is confusing.]
Hanna/fakeHeeJoo was used by real HeeJoo to collect the ransome. It seems as if when she was with her sister she was always masked, until the very end.
My question revolved around physical strength. I don't see how HeeJoo could have managed her twin and Joong-Won by herself, unless she had somehow drugged one or both of them.
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Z
September 27, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Don't worry I'm married and far beyond the Murder for the Sake of My Crush stage of life.
I'm pretty sure you just confirmed my take on the twins story in your post but it's so convoluted that I'm confused even though I think we just said the exact same thing.
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM
;D
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Sarah A.
September 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Besides being a bit confused about Hee-joo and Hanna in the kidnapping, I wanna know who helped Hanna during the kidnapping. We see someone holding Joong-woon forcing him to read. So, who was that accomplice?
And I still don't get Hee-joo trying to zap into Gong-shil's body. Why did she keep persisting on the need to possess her in the first place? And did she or not?
Also, I like the trap. But, come on. In court, can't Hanna plead insanity? You know, given she thought she was talking to her dead sister for half of that conversation?
And why did she leave the necklace? That was a story arch that I never understood.
Ahhhhh! So many questions!!!!
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM
The necklace was never the point. HeeJoo was not interested in an expensive necklace, she was interested in a wealthy life.
The kidnapping was to cover the murder.
With a kidnapping she need to ask for a ransom, that's general protocol.
She asked for the necklace to make the kidnapping look real.
The question of accomplices is still open, it might be answered in a throw away line or it might not be explained because it doesn't serve a narrative purpose.
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Sarah A.
September 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Agreed. But it's easy to have that wealthy lifestyle if she had sold the necklace. I still don't understand why she didn't do that.
I suppose things makes a bit more sense if murder were the initial goal.
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Shikurai17
September 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM
She didn't need to sell the necklace, because she took over Hanna's life. Hanna's adoptive parents were already wealthy. She couldn't have sold it anyway. Everyone was on the look out for the necklace. If the police found it, it could be traced back to her.
Sarah A.
September 26, 2013 at 11:52 PM
Shikurai17, ahhhhhhh!!! Good point. Now, I just wanna know about whether Hanna was able to possess Gong-shi or not.
Yammy
September 27, 2013 at 12:16 AM
Hee joo mentions in one of the flashback scenes of her at her sister's memorial when she placed an angel figurine with the necklace inside that "it is not that I store this necklace, I stole your life."
So the necklace was just a cover. smart...in an evil way. /shudders/
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Yogurt
March 17, 2015 at 6:06 AM
Girl version of "bros before hoes",
"sisters before misters" :)
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43 mysterious
September 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM
One word: BORING! Next week better make up for it.
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44 dreaming....
September 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Chun Hee!!! Really excited that he's here. But I'm just sad that he won't get the girl. Am I crazy for thinking that maybe he should get the girl? For three years, he stood by her side. And he never forgot about those memories. How much pain he must have felt when her spirit left him and how much pain he feels now that she's in love with someone else and have forgotten about those 3 years.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM
So he says. . .
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dreaming....
September 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM
I sort of have that feel too. But I'm trying to think positive. It'll hurt too much to see Chun Hee's character as a bad guy. I want to paint him as a helpless romantic guy. :D
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Redge
September 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM
lol yumi xD
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luna
September 27, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Well, I think it serves him right that he lost GS to JW. When she came to, he could have revealed himself to her, and she would have remembered him like she does now. He could have helped her be less afraid of her skill, and they could have been together since.
BUT NOOOO, he just stood by the sidelines, watched her be a terrified hermit shunned by the world, and did nothing. I mean, really, why now, when she's finally getting the courage to face it? Why not come to her aid when she needed it the most?!
But then, if he did, we wouldn't have a story now, would we? I guess I should be thanking him for not showing up until now, at least this way JW had the opportunity hehehe.
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bbstl 🧹
September 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM
but where has he been in all the years since TY recovered from her coma? Something seems a bit fishy in there. I expected him to have been a fellow ghost who just now managed to possess a living body, explaining what took him so long. Hmmmmm.
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45 PlumWine
September 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM
Fringing fracking arghhhh!!! Run after her for €£%#¥! sake!!! Blast it!!!!
Totally not happy. First time to post without reading recaps or comments. Totally frustrated!! If that's what the Hong sisters wanted they got it!!! $&&)&$
So excited with the beginning role reversal of touchy feely, glad twin issue resolved, got that everyone is leaving him (gojo), so upset can't remember anything else. Oh, yeah ghost seeing Master- well I got nothing because he needs to gojo now!
Off to read recaps and comments, regain sanity, and lower blood pressure. ( I hope!)
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46 queencircles
September 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM
There was a shot where we were (supposed to be) looking at Joonwon's hands droping from Gongshil's shoulders.... and it was just a close up of his package. Any one else notice that?
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Altari
September 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM
It was this sad JW scene and then all of a sudden I found myself staring at his crotch. What were they thinking? lol
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Duncerblur
September 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM
ROFL! Me too ... I almost blushed the colour of this pants! LOL
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM
rofl
Also, were those corduroys. I hate corduroys. They never hang right.
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Duncerblur
September 26, 2013 at 11:17 PM
pfffttt ... "hang right" pffftttt ... *OMG, I am becoming a perv!*
ash
September 27, 2013 at 1:09 AM
lolllll I was too!!!! hahahaha
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Crazynoona
September 27, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Look how he turns us all into a perv, glad i'm not the only one *phew*
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yumii
September 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM
The picture referenced, for those who don't have to time to rewatch.
You are welcome
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/p480x480/994898_384607408334688_795302744_n.jpg
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owl.
September 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Oh yeah, that was intentional, hey?
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renzillag
September 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM
LMFAO I thought I was the only one :P
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM
No, no! Who could help it? I loved that it was so brief and...accidental?
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Patch
September 26, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Moment completely ruined by dodgy camera angles. LOL.
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Redge
September 26, 2013 at 11:01 PM
LOL I love this thread.
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tata
September 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM
HAHAHAHA I feel youuuu ;p
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seyhan
September 27, 2013 at 2:14 AM
I totally went back and scanned the episode LOL
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luna
September 27, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Yep, totally did. First thought that went through my mind was "Damn, he's packed", and then I realized where my thoughts were headed, and I was like WTF brain WTF xD
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JustRozy
September 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM
ROFL
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Jaglaine
September 28, 2013 at 2:05 AM
Bloody hell! Now I have to go back and see what I missed.
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ponderwoman
September 30, 2013 at 4:07 AM
I totally noticed his pretty hand... LOL
Master's Sun FB page went gaga on that hand!
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47 kurage
September 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Not feeling the tempo for the last three eps. Could be because of the standalone ep last week, i don't know. Or the fact that our two leads are just having repetitive conversations and there is no real development to their r/ship
And also
1) how did Joo Won recover his memories? yes we saw what happened, but somehow i was expecting more and was waiting for JW to reveal something more satisfying and convincing.
2) how did Uncle guess that the necklace was inside the figurine?
3) so why did real!Hanna keep insisting that a takeover of GS's body was absolutely necessary to reveal the true culprit? She could have TOLD GS and the plan would still be able to go through.
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48 kiki
September 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM
THANK YOU ... (^_-) ...
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49 Duncerblur
September 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Gah! And this episode's special - Two noble idiots for the the price of one!
The ending made me wanna take the two of them like Joong Won's six pack of beer & shake them! Next week better sort them out & give me more cutsey instead of idiocy.
So frustrated with them, am gonna go eat some choccie to sort out the PMS. Come next week am gonna be a porker from all the choccies! Damn you, Master's Sun, damn you!
Sidenote: Weight Watchers Anonymous has now banned members from watching Korean dramas after this
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50 Trixie
September 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM
Have you noticed Gong Shil is getting her act together. As her destiny becomes more clear to her her attire becomes more stylish, her hair smoothed down, even pulled back. As she grows stronger she becomes more appealing. She is using that strength to deny herself and push JW away. Is she going to need that strength to return to him or to face her own story? We'll have to ponder and hope for 6 more days. I hope the focus is on their unity the closing episodes. So appreciate your analysis and the resulting debates. Thanks
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Redge
September 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Ooooh I like your insight about GS' wardrobe! I think you're on to something.
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yumii
September 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM
I did notice her wardrobe took a turn for the better when she was working with Madame Go. I assume it was because of the level of clientele she had to interact with--you have to be rich to employ Madame Go.
The outfit she had on at the airport, meh?
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dani305
September 27, 2013 at 1:13 AM
*Cringe* She's worn some weird outfits before, but that has got to be the worst one in this drama. I'm surprised her pants stayed up, they looked so baggy and too big for her.
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Redge
September 27, 2013 at 3:13 AM
They looked like mom jeans tbh.
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Quiet Thought
September 27, 2013 at 4:08 AM
That airport scene featured what had to be the worst blouse ever worn by a Kdrama leading lady. It made GHJ's entire upper body vanish. And there she was, standing right next to this elegant beauty with a fused spine, looking like the homliest girl in high school.
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Patch
September 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Say what you like about BadHanna but the girl knows how to dress. GS needs a fashionista ghost STAT.
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yumii
September 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM
I will say that for all my time watching k-dramas, Tae-Yang might be the first poor character who dresses as if she were poor, as if she had own some of her clothes for a long time, and often wore the same outfit over and over.
I'm not sure why, but I feel that choice is related to the actor, as if she had some say in those options.