Introducing our Dramabeans commenting policy
by javabeans
We’ve seen some questions floating around regarding commenting etiquette, so we thought we’d take this opportunity to put up an official Dramabeans Commenting Policy to clear things up.
We generally have an awesome commenter base here, with lots more respectful and well-spoken readers than bad apples. So first off, thank you for making this a fun place to hang out and talk dramas. At Dramabeans we always encourage robust discussion, open-minded debate, and a healthy dose of fanlove. And we just want to continue to foster the welcoming atmosphere here.
That said, with so many people commenting it can get a little unruly at times, and that’s where our policy comes in. If we can liken our comment threads to the best living room party ever, then we reserve the right to cut off that belligerent drunk guy who drinks all the tequila and is trying to make snow angels in potato chip crumbs. ‘Cause c’mon, that’s just gross. And also, we’re the ones who have to live in that living room once that guy leaves.
That’s why we’ve drawn up our guidelines here: Dramabeans Commenting Policy. Thanks, and happy commenting!
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51 Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Here are things I feel bad about related to commenting on DB.
1. I don't thank javabeans, girlfriday, headnos2, gummi, and other dramabeans contributors enough. It's like forgetting to be polite with family.. I am ETERNALLY grateful for all your hard work, even if I forget to say it every week. This includes witty and thought provoking regular commenters on the OT that I follow like rock stars for their opinions.
2. I will often squee my emotions for a drama without waiting. Maybe the next day I will cringe that I let my excitement/frustration/enchantment/annoyance out in such raw form. Yet KDramas bring out strong emotions. I'm sometimes a rabid fangirl, as embarrassing as that is for a white haired old lady to admit. I want to share my excitement with other people who "get it".
3. I came to Dramabeans for the Korean dramas, but my interests have widened to include Jodramas, TDramas, and Lakhorns. I try to keep the majority of my comments about KDramas, so forgive my talking about other things that may not interest everyone who visits DB.
4. As a result of a brain injury, I can no longer express myself as well as this summa cum laude college graduate use to be able to. I cringe at the spelling and grammatical errors that crop up in my comments. The thought is clear in my head but doesn't always make it understandable sentences. I am trying my best. Please be a bit forgiving of shortfalls.
5. I write too long comments!
6. I write too many comments!
With affection to all the Dramabeans community, my sincere apologies. I will do my best to be a good citizen here.
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Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 10:54 AM
"doesn’t always make it understandable sentences" see what I mean? I tried to proof before submitting, and I still ended up with those odd sentences with missing prepositions, tense changes, or other lost words that were in my head but didn't make it to the keyboard. Sigh.
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CaroleMcDonnell
July 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM
I too am guilty of typos...mental glitch alas.
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Mar
July 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM
I've never read any of your posts and thought anything bad. Any typos have been minor or decipherable.
We all have typos. Sometimes I read back what I posted, at a later time, and think was I very stoned when I wrote this?
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KimYoonmi
July 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM
Oh yes, me too... I'm making a comparison and use the same word to compare kind of errors. >.<;;
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ilikemangos
July 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM
lmao the comments we post right then and there are more raw, more close to our emotions when we first read the post. sometimes i regret what i posted(like those celebrities that tweet and delete them after) but that's just how i genuinely felt in the moment.
i think that's one of the perks of NOT having an edit button, cause everything seems real. No one can go back to edit their original thoughts, no matter how ridiculous it sounded. haa
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Saya
July 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM
awww, Julia every time I read one of your comments I want to give you a hug. You're so warm and fuzzy and just kind even when you disagree. Yay, love.
Okay, not meant to be here! So much for fasting from the internet! Ha!
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52 risa
July 14, 2013 at 10:49 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how you continually make this awesome site even more awesome. This policy rocks, as does the way you presented it with your characteristic humor and class.
A couple of suggestions to consider for further tweaking:
1) I think a lot of us have clicked on "Report this comment" instead of "Reply" accidentally because of the appearance of the links. For one, "Report this comment" comes before "Reply" and is much larger than "Reply", making it look like the go-to link. Also, they both start with R-e-p, so it's easy to click the reporting link, expecting it to say "reply", before processing the o-r-t... Reversing the size and order of the two links would mostly solve this problem-- or, as someone else suggested, perhaps the reporting link could be placed on the other side.
2) If you clarify the policy regarding spoilers such as whether or not major spoilers about previously-aired dramas need to be marked (e.g. in the OT), and you allow marked spoilers in certain cases, could you please include a guideline or two about how to properly mark spoilers. Many people don't realize that we read very quickly, and often read chunks of words at a time, so something like:
"OMG! I just watched XDrama and I can't believe spoiler: WC died at the end!"
doesn't include a sufficient spoiler marker because my brain has already read "WC died" before it's had time to process the word "spoiler".
Thanks a bazillion once again for all the BTS work you do to manage this site-- you make it look so easy but I know it isn't. I hope this new policy means fewer headaches for you in the future.
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Windsun33
July 14, 2013 at 12:33 PM
"..Reversing the size and order of the two links .."
That is something I would like to see also. I would point out that the "reply" link - at least on my computer - shows up in VERY tiny text - looks like font size = 6.
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malta
July 14, 2013 at 3:04 PM
I think it would help if the 'report this comment' button was not in the orange color. It makes it stand out and draws a lot of attention when it doesn't need to be like that.
Also maybe putting it in a different location than the reply button, like aligning it to the right. That way we always know that if we click the button of the left we are replying and not reporting.
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KimYoonmi
July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM
on 1 if they push the report to the right, and then keep the reply to the left it would eliminate the high traffic area clicking. So then the person has to go out of their way to click to the right.
Sorry, Website designer speak.
Right idea, but the execution probably could be improved.
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Betty
July 15, 2013 at 4:22 AM
It's ok to click on the report comment by mistake. I tried it and as I thought there is a kind of safety because they ask you something like "Are you sure you want to report this comment". Then if after that you still click on yes then it's on you because it means that you purposedly wanted to click on it and to report that comment.
On all the sites where I go and there are "report comment" they always ask you if you are sure you want to do this and some sites even ask you to give a reason so no worries. Even if it's bigger and you mistakenly click on it you can just close it or say no when the box ask you if you are sure.
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53 danna
July 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM
I guess I'm guilty for not adhering to the spelling/punctuation rule at times, but my phone can be a pain and I post a comment before I get to look over the comment which always means I have to"Reply" to correct my own mistakes...Thank you for implementing the no queu cutter policy, the regular "Thanks" people are turning into an annoyance for me
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54 makeupmag
July 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Love the rules; love the reasons behind them. Thank you for keeping the living room spick and span, so that we can snuggle up comfortably and share the K-drama love.
I found the 'first' and front-of-the-queue 'thank you' comments unnecessary and annoying - especially when the usual suspects pounce to use those words at placeholders. That said, genuine gratitude that's clearly not attention-seeking is great. :) (We can all tell who's doing what for what, yes? ;))
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55 CaroleMcDonnell
July 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Held my breath, clicked the commenting policy with great trepidation--awash with fear that I'd been breaking rules...and much to my relief...it's such a sweet easygoing policy. You Big Beans are the best! Not a control freak among you.
Much relieved that I've not come afoul of any of the rules.
Thanks for the policy.
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56 Z
July 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Saying "thanks" is ok by me as an actually sign of gratitude. It's just obvious when people are just holding their place when you see someone reply to their own comment 20 to 40 minutes later.
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57 Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Pink reply! Cool. Much easier to see.
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58 my2cents
July 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM
This hasn't really been discussed, but my personal pet peeve is when a commenter makes a second comment to correct a typo or other minor error made in their first comment. If a mistake was made that actually obscures the meaning of what they were intending to say, then a clarification is appropriate. But most often, the corrections are of something very trivial, like "Oops, I meant granddaughter, not grandaughter". IMO, that kind of comment just makes the thread more cumbersome. (And many times, I didn't even notice the original error because I was reading so quickly.)
We all make mistakes, especially when we're writing quickly, and I don't think anyone here is judging anyone else based on an occasional typo or misspelling. I consider it courteous to proofread a comment before posting it, but even then, mistakes happen sometimes. I know what it feels like to be embarrassed about a mistake I've made on this site, but I try to say "oh well" and suck it up. Once in a blue moon, even the extraordinarily gifted jb and gf make a typo, etc., so we're in good company. :D
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alua
July 15, 2013 at 5:02 AM
It's a pathological need that some of us perfectionists suffer from.
I do apologise, but it's just really hard to let an error stand. *wahhhhh*
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ilikemangos
July 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM
i am guilty of this :(
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KimYoonmi
July 15, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Also Freudian slips... Which are harder to take back when you're typing and have hit send. Sometimes it's clear, but you really do need to say I didn't mean it that way...
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59 Nilechoclat
July 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM
I love this site and I love your opinions about dramas I wish that there are another site as this for Turkish dramas .
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60 Saya
July 14, 2013 at 12:07 PM
A couple of additional thoughts:
-- In the capitalising point, could you also include adding paragraph breaks? I always feel bad not reading a thick wall of text when someone's gone to the trouble of writing it, but unless it's broken into paragraphs with white spaces in between, it's really hard to read.
-- Is there a way to add an html spoiler tag - i.e. a tag that makes the text invisible until you mouse over it? For example, what they have on TVTropes, where you have to highlight it to read the spoiler.
That's all for now! And I also want to take the opportunity to say thank you for creating such a sane, friendly, thoughtful community. It's been years since I joined one - precisely *because* many are not welcoming - and after so many years, it's great to feel like this place is homey. Yay for Big Beans and all the other beans.
All this talk of beans is making me hungry, ha!
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Javabeans
July 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Aha! Watch me work my html-ful!
There is LITERALLY a spoiler tag you can use:
<spoiler>
</spoiler>
Anything that goes in between will be whited out and require highlighting to read. Try it.
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latteholic
July 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Let me try this, this is a spoiler .... :)
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Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Can I practice using the SPOILER tag?
OK. Did that work?
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Mar
July 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM
It worked Julia!
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Saya
July 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Now I want what Julia said to be true. Please Dramaland XD
Bengbeng
July 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Me too!!! been praying and wishing =).
Betty
July 15, 2013 at 4:29 AM
Yes it worked and now I am have been spoiled!!!
Just kidding lol :p
Happy that it's working! :)
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Raine
July 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Sweetness! LOVE it! Thank you. I'm so anti spoiler that I won't read Twitter or even DB *gasp* *blasphemy* on the day of a show airing so I won't get spoiled. If people use this, that would be fantastic!
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jomo143
July 14, 2013 at 3:17 PM
I stay off EVERYTHING when I am behind on dramas.
Just the tiniest hint makes me crazy.
To the people who are tempted to use the spoiler tag, please make double and triple sure you have the slashes, spelling and spaces right, so we don't see things accidentally.
At the end of Mary had a little lamb, it was against the rules < /spioler<
From one who has made embarrassing html mistakes often,
when I am <b<trying to bold for example, but fail!
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R
July 14, 2013 at 2:16 PM
Yay thanks for the spoiler tags! Testing:
You're the best DB!
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jomo143
July 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM
Aww! Cute!
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Bellamafia
July 14, 2013 at 5:14 PM
I'm using tablet, but I can't see those who said they're using spoiler tags. It's just empty on my side. I thought if I highlighted I can see something, but it's still empty. Does it mean the spoiler tags don't work on the tablet?
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Bellamafia
July 14, 2013 at 6:07 PM
I'm going crazy with these spoiler tags. After I used tablet (and it's just empty, nothing.. no words inside the spoiler tags). I went to check it on my PC. The spoiler tags don't work either, this time I can read it without highlighting. I can read Julia's spoiler, it just popped like regular posting.
Does anyone have the same problem?
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Bellamafia
July 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM
oh snap! It must be something to do with the browser. I use IE, it did like what I said above. I use Opera, the spoiler tags work (I have to highlight to see it). Crazy...crazy..
But still, can't solve my tablet problem.. heh.. I guess just use opera or not read at all..lol.
ck1Oz
July 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Oh goodness. This is the best news EVER!!
I used to avoid reading a recap because I live in fear of spoilers. Love it to bits.
Thank you. Now I can write without fear.
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Saya
July 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Oh, awesome! I didn't know we had this. I didn't want to spam by testing it either. Maybe you could add it onto the list so everyone knows how to do it?
So I would use it like this: square brackets so people know there's a spoiler inside, with the html-ed spoiler nested, i.e.
[spoiler]I want to say something profound and spoily but nothing comes to mind. Okay! This: I LOVE DRAMABEANZ LULZ [/s]
Thus: now everyone knows there's a whiteout which they can highlight to read.
Does this work?
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thursdaynexxt
July 15, 2013 at 3:53 AM
Now I know what my new obsession is gonna be - I'll be feverishly scrolling through the comments, looking for that tell-tale blank white space...!
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thursdaynexxt
July 15, 2013 at 3:56 AM
er - that was meant to be a comment on the invisible ink notes below.
Sorry, guys, I'm directionally mouse-challenged!
Saya
July 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Also. I am all chuffed that javabeans replied to my message. Do I speak to the Great Bean directly? Do I look sideways and speak in third person? What do I do??
What? I am easily starstruck XD Javabeans is my Colin Morgan of kdrama, my great unrequited friend, my...I can't think of anything else, but you get the idea. Chuffy McChuffson!
Thanks for replying to my comment, javabeans!
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Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM
It's like we are writing secret messages ... just like invisible ink notes we wrote with lemon juice on paper when I was a kid.
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Saya
July 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM
I love that you did that, too!
Such an important part of growing up, secret messages :D
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sixtyeightmonkey
July 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Would you be able to change the spoiler highlight to another color, besides white? Black would work well. If the spoiler is white, readers don't notice there's anything there. It just looks like a skipped line, unless the commenter writes something like ***POSSIBLE SPOILER*** prior to whiting it out.
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ilikemangos
July 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM
i think thats a general rule people are going to take into consideration before writing a spoiler so we know it's a spoiler and not just a big space of white.
like [Spoiler] [End of Spoiler] or *SPOILER* *END OF SPOILER*
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61 Crispycheese
July 14, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Fantastic policy!
May I suggest another guideline to consider, which is for the community to ignore trolls and active baiting? You'll need to figure out what happens when you have to delete (or disemvowel) a comment but there's already a thread underneath referring to it and jumping to your defense.
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62 mskololia
July 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM
This is a testament to the growing popularity of the Dramabeans site and family. Patience is a virtue that you ladies have acquired.
Thanks for instituting this policy.
Will this be posted at the top of your page after..."about"?
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63 Love Silents
July 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM
WooHoo! Civility and good grammar - I love it! I also love DramaBeans: keep on keeping on (please and thank you).
This site has a great group of recappers (is that not a word?) and commenters. This is excellent forum, what a treat and breath of fresh air (sorry -too many superlatives?). Kudos!
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64 latteholic
July 14, 2013 at 1:09 PM
First of all thank you for setting up this commenting policy, girls. I have to admit that sometimes I have been guilty of piggybacking my own comment, although often times it was unintended. I quickly saw the errors of my way and rectified it then :) But I'm not sure I can do the same with spellings and grammatical errors yet :D
Second of all, I tried using the spoiler as per your comment in #60, JB. But I don't think it's working, just thought I should mentioned that since I think the spoiler tag feature would a great addition to this already awesome site :)
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Julia the Berkshire Beanie
July 14, 2013 at 1:29 PM
We have a new toy, SPOILER TAGS, now everyone is going to want to play with it.
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latteholic
July 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Mine is not working though, hang on let me try this again...
Maybe this will work this time?
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junny
July 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM
it worked! :D
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latteholic
July 14, 2013 at 6:18 PM
Yeay! :D
65 Toya
July 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Take responsibility; you made water come out my nose with "Spelling, plz". LMAO
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66 Almontel
July 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Ok, just finished reading all the rules.
Great reminder!
It's a good thing there's a Rule that everyone must adhere to.
Khamsamhida!!!
I just wanted to say a Big Thanks to this site for bringing a lot of KFans together and getting a chance to read up on the beautiful dramas we are all hang up on. This site has always been the first place I'd visit....Many many Thanks again!
(I hope you don't mind my extra exclamation points, just super elated..ke ke ke)
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67 midwest mz
July 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Thank you for letting us know we are valued. You see us (read our pecking), you care about us, (critic us when needed) and share your valuable time for and with us. Also, no matter where you come from, or sit in the front room, manners are universal. Even if we may not agree on all aspects, or understand the language, manners are the kindness of one human to another.
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68 Rich
July 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM
For a blog this big, it's about time to set up guidelines for the comment section... actually, it should've been done earlier. And thanks for making the comment policy fun to read. :)
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69 margopdx
July 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Thanks for clarifying the rules~ I'll do my best to keep from abusing the caps lock key from now on :)
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70 ck1Oz
July 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Thank you for finally making the post about this.
So often in the last year, the tone of the comments have changed somewhat. It has made me sad to read so many disrespectful comments appearing when I scroll through the comments.
I love reading the varied opinions and discussions here. I learn a lot, however when it degenerates into a whole actor biased tone it becomes kind of scary to read. So often I refrain from telling someone off even though I think their comments about the recappers here are nasty.
On the other hand, I totally support trying to have a civil atmosphere here. On the other site I volunteer at, I come across so many nasty comments. Plus people who can't spell and write up to 20 comments with caps locked on. Goodness it's terrible to read. I've been told we are supposed to encourage a positive atmosphere. However my belief is that creating a positive environment doesn't mean a free for all and letting people abuse you. So thank you for making this site pleasant to visit. Love that so many viewers here are such witty writers as well.
All the best with the rules.
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71 Lizzy4e
July 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM
Wee! I always skip the comments lacking punctuation and correct spelling; I found the comments not worth the time and effort it takes to decipher them. I also abhor getto speak.
One of the reasons I come back to this site time after time is the level of writing by the authors.
They clearly convey their thoughts through the use of: well crafted sentences, an extensive vocabulary, and a broad knowledge of and application of grammar.
Thank you for the punctuation rule.
Testing the spoiler tag
DramaBeans: The website that holds you to a higher standard. grow or go (just joking!)
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72 Serena B
July 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Thanks for making rules on the commenting, and also in general for all the hard work you put in to running this site (as someone that runs a site, I know how much work goes in to it, and mine doesn't even have a huge following like yours so I can only imagine the time you all spend on this, so much respect to you guys).
I've been stopping by DB on an almost daily basis for the last three years, and although I rarely comment, I do read a lot of the comments and have found that comparatively DB does have the most thoughtful and courteous commenters I've come across, for the most part (there are always a couple of trolling peeps, but they are few and far between).
Anyway, thanks again. *goes back to lurking*
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73 amberscube
July 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM
I really have no problems with rules.
Speaking of spoilers, i couldn't sleep thinking of that spoiler about IHYV. It just drove me nuts i was crying!
I just hope someone will report the spoilers before i even see it!
So glad this is a spoiler free blog unlike some other site.
DB you just become even more awesome because of these rules.
Thank you for everything that you do!
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74 Pakykul
July 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM
I agree and accept your policy ^_^
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75 Jushi
July 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Policies are guidelines and I hope people won't get too rigid and start nitpicking every comments just to make sure that everyone is following the rules down to the T.
I don't know if I am being clear because what I am trying to say is, "Yes, follow the rules but don't get too excited gunning down those people who once in awhile use ALL CAPS or getting cool with spelling because they think it's gr8."
We still need to consider every individual's communication style while following a standard/framework. The rules make us more careful definitely because this site is a 'shared space'. However, we don't have to lose our individuality and open-mindedness just because we stick to the rules too rigidly.
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Jushi
July 14, 2013 at 8:58 PM
Ooohh!! So that what's happen when you use the spoiler tag. Now I know! Hihihi.
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76 MeeisLee
July 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM
Quick question on the no "firsts" rule!
I know the "first" or "thanks" posts are to hold your spot while you write up that long essay when the post is made but what about when you've already written up your comments in anticipation of the post? Lately I've been so excited about the airing dramas and the recaps that Ive started to write out my comments as I watch the show so I don't forget what I want to say when the episode recap is actually posted and then refreshing like crazy after. I'm not sure if I would be abusing the rule or not since my comments are more than a few words but I post my comments before I finish reading the post to avoid the queue as well.
I want to be a good citizen here :)
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KimYoonmi
July 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM
It's just don't avoid the queue. Become the queue. Let the queue become one with you. People read by your name the and the content you write, not where you are in the pile. Uhh... Buddhism it... yeah. (Facetious)
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ilikemangos
July 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM
i don't mind at all when someone writes up their thoughts and posts it when the recap is posted (although i am guilty of doing that during my obsessive K2H days) because we can dive right into the discussion. It's only when you use a one worded post as a place-holder and come back to comment 30 minutes later.
You didn't cut the line. You were the one waiting since 5 in the morning and are first in line.
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77 Bengbeng
July 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM
thank you for including the "spelling plz", I can't for the life of me read those abbreviated words. it's quite rampant here in the Philippines, the capital of texting world. everytime I received SNS like that, I just reply back with "please clarify, can't understand", hahahah =)
Then there's another abbreviation happening in the digital world -idk, sua, ikr - among others. why, why, why are the youngs/teens are so lazy to complete the words? - oh well, just ranting here =)
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78 erdbeer
July 14, 2013 at 11:09 PM
How about troll kind of comments? made by anti fans i.e direct bashing the actress by calling names? should we report that to you to delete the posts? it definitely such a sore in the eyes.
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KimYoonmi
July 15, 2013 at 7:25 AM
I would, personally, think something like, "I'm going to kill X actress because she acts so badly" would be inappropriate. Insulting the actress over the character. (Though disagreeing if it's the acting or writing should be fine too) Also the, "I think actress is terrible because she's OMG dating someone I'm in love with, so I want to beat her up." also kinda needs some ummm... moderation. (Or the demanding of personal information over a rape victim... which I've seen on other sites... --;; And from women.... *cries*)
Versus something such as, I don't think she acts well for these reasons... such as I don't feel for her while she is crying. That would seem far more acceptable.
I don't think disagreeing should be banned nor agreeing incessantly. People have their pet issues and neither nor should be a cause for alarm. But when it's something creepy or unrelated to their personal ability to act (or relevant to what's being posted) when tied to a show, that probably should be a report.
Opinions are just that. If they aren't personal, but you don't feel like engaging, then hit the ignore button on your brain and it'll die without you. Or it'll live on, but it'll be someone else's problem.
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79 Fangy
July 14, 2013 at 11:21 PM
I'm not sure if it's just my PC... the spoiler tag doesn't seem to work for me i.e. I can still easily read "spoilers" that fellow beanies have been testing out at the above comments (they are in black wording from my PC screen).
Also want to clarify if we need to use the spoiler tag when we are speculating? Sometimes in that particular episode, we tried to speculate the background history of the characters' relationships based on the hints from the previous episodes or who is that mystery person. For example, when we were watching Arang, we were trying to speculate how Satto's mom become evil or how Arang and Satto can be together given the impossible task. I mean sometimes we guessed it correctly, sometimes the truth is way out of our imagination.
Usually when I'm speculating or making wish list, I use phrases like "Perhaps, may be, hopefully" so that others know that what comes next is guess work. Would that do? If a spoiler tag is preferred, I would be gladly to do so. :)
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KimYoonmi
July 15, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Not to be rude, but which browser and model of computer is it? You need something that will read XML and CSS for it to work, and probably CSS3? or CSS4. If your computer is much older than the ability to support that, it might be causing the issue. If not, you can look into your browser and browser settings. Sometimes you have css disabled, etc. But since this website runs on css formating, I'm doubting that's the exact issue.
Sorry to get techy...
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Fangy
July 16, 2013 at 6:19 AM
Thanks, Yoonmi!
No worries, when it comes to IT stuff, I'm more than happy to receive advice and help! :)
Now that you have mentioned it, and after I check with my home laptop and iPad (I was using my office PC when I post the above), I think you are right that it could be my office PC browser setting. Will check it out when I'm back in the office tomorrow. :)
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80 unknownunknown
July 15, 2013 at 12:29 AM
At first I thought I stumbled on a couch here, then a very large couch, and now a whole "living room"! Thanks, Dramabeans and friends. Your policies are well noted by me.
Testing spoiler tag too:
May your website go from strength to strength.
Cheers.
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81 Yon Yih
July 15, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Thanks for implementing this policy, i think it helps to keep douchebags off the comment section, which will make this section more interesting to read. I often stop reading whenever i see someone start bickering / attack other's comment on their idols maliciously so this really helps.
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82 korfan
July 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM
Thank you so very much for this and for all you do. This is what makes it such a pleasure, that there's order in addition to a fabulous group of people. No problem with the rules, because honestly, manners never go out of style!
On a different note, I'd like to mention that, I'm experiencing what others have previously posted here regarding the test spoilers. The test spoilers either appear as regular posted text, in black and white, or there is just blank space which I cannot highlight in any way, shape or form. I'm on a PC. I'm suspecting the problem is on my end since the test spoilers did work for others in the group here.
Anyway, thank you again to everyone at Dramabeans! You guys are the best!
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83 k-soup
July 15, 2013 at 1:57 AM
We don't want an eyesore here, right? let's play along with the rules and be friendly to each other. This is not a marathon anyway.
I really like the rules.
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84 PILK
July 15, 2013 at 2:06 AM
*applause*
Civilized chat, so rare nowadays. Thanks for the friendly policy.
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85 Elina
July 15, 2013 at 2:50 AM
I don't think using other languages is about being exclusive/inclusive. I remember writing in French in the thread about the Paris Korean film festival. It felt kind of weird replying in English to French-speakers when my own mother tongue is French. Especially when I didn't know how to say in English what I meant.
European sites (newspapers, blogs) often have multilingual comments, so it's good you made your will clear. We can get wild :D
However it means you will have to endure our poor English and our bad grammar.
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86 iitu
July 15, 2013 at 3:17 AM
I haven't been commenting much myself but I absolutely love how people have so intelligent and insightful conversations on this site and the reviews are also brilliant! It's really refreshing to read long comments with speculations and things people have noticed about the dramas. It gives and extra dimention to the whole KDrama world.
I don't even mind a bit of heat in conversations from time to time - it's pretty much given since people might be in a bit of an emotional state after watching dramas ;) - but like so many here have said it's important to respect and to forgive!
Thank you for the simple common ground rules to make sure we don't make angels out of cheese crackers and spill fruit punch all over your living room carpets :D
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87 pandaren
July 15, 2013 at 4:05 AM
This place is awesome , I never felt that this place needs some comment rules or moderation. Moreover i get to learn about people and places which they live in, even i learnt some commenting techniqes which the Gentlewomen here use !
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88 queen bee
July 15, 2013 at 4:47 AM
Finally, a commenting policy that pays respect to language! I absolutely loooooooove the spelling and punctuation policies!
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89 maryxiah
July 15, 2013 at 6:45 AM
I wasn't gonna say this BUT I've noticed this on several of my favorite show recaps. I really enjoyed reading some of the comments and discussions but seeing what this person did really put me off. There was this first poster that put "Thanks!" on a lot of the recaps instead of a real comment, and THEN put her comment in reply to her "Thanks!" comment. Maybe she doesn't think of it as "First" comment but it's still plain annoying and rude. I don't think anyone appreciated a "Thanks" comment with no real input, especially when it was done so she could hold place for her comments. I really wish with this new policy, fellow posters/commenters will refrain from doing this. Let's respect one another and be thoughtful.
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90 DayDreamer
July 15, 2013 at 6:45 AM
Javabeans, your commenting policy is as awesome as all the other things you do. I spent about a good three minutes cracking up over your drunk guy analogy and the Lee Minoz. That aside, I'm glad there are explicit terms and hopefully people who have done the opposite of the terms have read them and will be mindful of them. Thanks also for introducing the spoiler html tags. I will definitely use them in OTs.
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91 1worlddreamer
July 15, 2013 at 7:24 AM
Awesome. I love you guys. Thank you for making the policy crystal clear in a wonderful and witty way!
I spend more time reading comments on this site than any other. I really get so tired of the rudeness and the negative comments on other sites.
Here there is always good discussion and further insight. Yes every once in a while someone goes a little off the rails, but it is the exception not the norm.
Thank you for inviting us to your living room and allowing us to comment, read or just hang out. :)
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92 Maris
July 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Awesome and much needed reminders! Thanks. It not only makes going through the comments and visiting the blog that much more enjoyable but we also become aware of one's own role in making it that way.
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93 chickenwing
July 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM
I actually do want javabeans to come after me :p
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94 Damselfly H
July 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM
*thumbs up* on the commenting policy.
I usually do and am good at the who's who in a Korean drama, via many years of trained by the family on, "Hey, Damselfly. Who's that on TV?"
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95 crazykel
July 15, 2013 at 11:51 AM
I cannot be thankful enough for your posting of these basic rules of commenting etiquette. As an English major, I have extreme difficulty deciphering chatspeak posts, and I tend to ignore them, as I believe that correct grammar presupposes sincereity and chatspeak, ignorance. Furthermore, I appreciate your rule concerning punctuation for the aforementioned reasons. I understand that we all make mistakes, but I want to read everyone's thoughts, not slog through them.
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Jaglaine
July 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Ditto, one reason why I love this site so much is because a lot of us adhere to the rules of written English. Or should I credit DB for taking out the messily written ones?!? ^_^
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96 AnotherFan
July 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM
I am not watching IHYV (yet) so I am reading the recaps/comments. I did notice the crazy number of comments for it so I suppose the newly instituted commenting policy had something to do with that? :-)
In any case, I am so happy to see that most beanies are in support of the policy (understandably for me) - reason I say this is that this has been such a fun, diverse, passionate, creative and intellectual crowd with some crazily wonderfully off-the-charts wonderful comments/fangirling. I admit I come to this site to read the blogging/recaps as much as I read the comment section. So just hoping the new commenting rule is going to create any hard feelings for anyone. And it seems that there's no such worry needed based on the comments I read so far..
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AnotherFan
July 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Correction -
I am not watching IHYV (yet) so I am not reading the recaps/comments.
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97 queencircles
July 15, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Love you guys. I'll continue to check my douchebaghat at the door haha.
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98 LordoftheThings
July 16, 2013 at 1:45 AM
So, this is cool. I haven't really been reading the comments as much lately, which is kind of a shame. I don't know whether its cos I'm at an age where I don't get as obsessive about kdramas anymore (lolnowaythatstrue), or because I was getting sick of the same few commenters cropping up at the top. I know that I personally like reading a variety of different reactions and comments rather than the same old block-text analysis echo chamber.
Sorry if anything I've written hurts anyone's feelings (honest), but as I get the impression those people rarely read past the first page anyway, I doubt it will be an issue.
On a more polite note, thanks DB and GF (whether you see this or not) for the hard work implementing stuff! I've just started working as a youth facilitator and I'm starting to get an idea of how difficult it can be to please and manage a diverse community. Sometimes the Facebook group alone makes me want to smack my head against the nearest wall.
Peace out! #1990slang #teambottomfeeder #inappropriatehashtagsyeah
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99 wendydarling
July 16, 2013 at 5:30 AM
Forgive me but I'm wondering what does queue cutting mean? Why do people have techniques for that? What's it for? Haha
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Jaglaine
July 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Queue-cutting means writing a short note right after a recap is posted, for example. Then, coming back later to "reply" to their own comments. In that way, they make sure that their discourse on the subject are seen and read because it's way ahead of everyone else's.
I am not sure about the reading thing because I am sure there are people like me who just skip through the things some of these queue-jumpers write.
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100 Jaglaine
July 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM
As expected, a no-nonsense, no-frills guideline. Most of us here are mature and respectful anyway. That is if one discounts the fact that we squeal and sigh over good-looking male dongsengs. Thank you for taking the time out to clarify things. And thank you for churning out intelligent, entertaining blogs that we, the readers from all points of the globe, appreciate so much.
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