Park Shin-hye cast opposite Lee Min-ho in Heirs
by girlfriday
Drumroll please… We have Lee Min-ho’s leading lady for his new drama He Who Wishes To Wear the Crown, Endure Its Weight: Heirs, aka The More Words We Put in A Title It Makes It Better, See: Hamster! Or yunno, just Heirs. Park Shin-hye has been cast as the heroine, fresh off the set of one drama (Flower Boy Next Door), a movie (The Gift of Room 7), and a short. Does the girl not rest?
The new 20-episode buzz project comes from star writer Kim Eun-sook, who most recently wrote A Gentleman’s Dignity and Secret Garden. She’s as polarizing as she is talented — those of you who watched some of her dramas along with us can attest that you rarely come out of the experience with all your hairs intact. But she does know how to make a hit drama. Directing is Kang Shin-hyo (Tazza, Midas) and the show has been picked up for a fall broadcast.
There’s no story info yet, but I don’t expect this drama to flout expectation. The title’s got chaebol-heir-and-Candy written all over it. I’m excited about the pairing though, which you have to admit is pretty damn perfect. It almost doesn’t matter what the story is. Almost.
Park Shin-hye’s been having a stellar year so far, and though Flower Boy Next Door wasn’t without its failings, she was quirky and winning as Go Dok-mi, and it was her performance that grounded the emotion and heart of the show. Please, please let’s give her a character with some depth, and not just pour all our energies into the hero, eh?
Heirs plans to premiere in October on SBS.
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1 samsoon
April 4, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Wow!
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linh
April 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM
my favorite actor and actress in a drama. im dying here! october? 6 months to go...;)
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lekritic
April 5, 2013 at 3:21 AM
As much as I like the actors, I just don't see how Lee Min Ho can pull of being a high schooler again. He already looked too old during Boys Over Flower. After seemingly moving on to adult roles, seeing him go back to high school just seems like a poor choice.
Hopefully, the writer changes the script to make it at least university.
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kahoni
April 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM
From what I've read the setting is in college not high school. But, I'm not sure what is official and what isn't. Rumors rumors.
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geraldinegozon
April 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM
this is agreat news....
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snow_white
April 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM
This is my dream pair!!!
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :)
she was the first to come in my list of choices when I first read about this show :) :)
great news :D
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Teresa
April 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM
I agree.
I have been wanting them to pair since I saw their commercial together. There was no chemistry with that girl from Faith.
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Snowman
April 4, 2013 at 8:02 PM
Totally hijacking the first post. So this is what it's like when two large fandoms collide and adding semi-neutral posters, the comments section becomes quiet entertaining.
I'm looking forward to reading the synopsis and character descriptions. I love them both. Hoping for the best :)
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Fudge
April 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Two overreated actors
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Fudge
April 4, 2013 at 10:50 PM
*overrated
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bjharm
April 5, 2013 at 12:22 AM
They are but they seem to have what it takes to learn to be better. They can not be blamed for getting the attention they have, even if it 50% based on looks 25% on shown talent and 25% on promise. Though Park Shin-hye has been around for longer than most know and can not hide between a newbie tag as much as Lee Min-ho can, her trouble is she pretty much type cast into as girlfriday says candy girl type roles. Again that not her fault you take what work you are offered and even candy girl roles are only the same at the basic level anyway, so a skilled actress can make such role their own
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aeasms
April 5, 2013 at 2:48 AM
She actually was pretty decent in Tree of Heaven! Her acting was a little montone but overall, she showed more depth than I have ever seen before!
kahoni
April 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Agreed that her role in You're Beautiful and Heartstrings sucked, and from what I've heard about this role it seems to be along a similar vein. However, her acting (albeit short) in the movie Gift of Room 7 and Flower Boy Next Door were not of the Candy Girl variety.
I'm hoping this drama just won't be so damn cliche ridden that it'll be a huge disappointment. Doubtful, but still hoping.
zsa
April 9, 2013 at 6:25 PM
I agree,,,as much as i like her now, I hated her in both you're beautiful and heartstrings...and started to like her in flower boys recently...as for LMH, i only started liking him after CH, so it's not all about looks for me...but I'm more forgiving here than when they cast IDOLs for the sake of IDOLS...these two are actual actors...and I hope LMH will get her french kissing soon...
Montaban
April 5, 2013 at 3:09 AM
Couldn't agree more. Lee Minho does well if he has a strong supporting cast and good script, but he cannot carry a drama on his own. I like Park Shin Hye, she seems sweet, but I am not a big fan of her acting. She is 23, but acts 15. She is type cast like GF said as a candy.
Her kiss scenes make one cringe. I am not asking for a full blown make out, tongue kiss, but can she at least hug back, instead of open eyed shock, hands on her side, like she is being forced scenes we get from her. I get she is trying to protect her image, but come on, it's weird and it totally breaks the scene.
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Sponge
April 5, 2013 at 6:49 AM
The problem with seeing complaints about her on screen kisses is that i've seen her kiss well in that Etude House lipstick commercial with Jang Keun Suk (before You're Beautiful filming?) and she was much better than the awkward kisses she displays in dramas - this both confuses me and makes me wonder if its not her but the directors that make her do that, because i really don't understand it otherwise.
kahoni
April 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Those stupid wide eye shocked kisses are most likely under the guidance of the directors.
As Sponge said, she's done better kissing despite the super dizzying the swirling camera. I think the kissing does need work, but a lot of Korean kissing in dramas is super awkward.
kanMM
April 7, 2013 at 1:19 AM
Park Shin Hye is a clean Actress,whats wrong with it?
She is the most talented actress ever and doesnt look like the other actress who needs to be exposed for winning some useless awards.She wins without overacting in scenes such as kissing.
Glamorous
April 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM
I totally agree with you. Every time I watch Park Shin Hye's dramas, exactly when it gets to the kissing scene, I'm like O_O SERIOUSLY...
As an actress or actor not only you have to make the logical and social parts of life look real but also the romantic parts of a script have to be played truly so that the viewers can believe the whole story and the lovers relationship. I'm not sure exactly but after watching several Korean dramas I think in Korea they like to watch a girl in a drama being completely innocent, like not knowing how to kiss or always having their first kiss with the guy, or maybe sometimes being shocked when the guy kisses them (eyes wide open). I think it's nice too but you know not every time in every drama.
vendetta
April 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM
You are using the wrong word, you meant two famous talented actors who have worked hard to reach where they are now. FACT.REALITY.
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nouastella
April 6, 2013 at 5:13 AM
THIS. I don't think they are overrated. Both are good actor/actress and very hardworking and professional. They deserved where they are right now. It's a pity that Park Shinhye has been given similar roles. But she did great in FBND and most especially in the Gift of Room 7, that's if , u care to watch it.
That is FACT...
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nouastella
April 6, 2013 at 5:14 AM
My point is, I agree with u....
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hana
April 6, 2013 at 2:35 PM
famous and hard working yes ..but talented actors ?
they're mediocre with nothing special about their acting .
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Maris
June 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM
For "mediocre" abilities, they have really generated huge fandoms and admirers.......
2 apple
April 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM
THIS is a dream come true!!!
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ilikehim
April 4, 2013 at 6:20 PM
I knowwwww! I just screamed out loud "holy mother eff!" Except I didn't really say eff.
I would be happy enough with an age-appropriate non idol..and then I read this? First time I am actually excited about just casting news alone! Wheeeee
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Kimmi
April 4, 2013 at 7:28 PM
my exact words, I always thought to myself, Shin hye would make a cute couple with Min ho. Time to hit full sail with this ship!
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3 aX
April 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Is it just me or does this casting seem predictible! I'm all for it though but let's hope the quality is just as good looking as it's lead casts! Just please, no more Kpop idols for awhile except I wouldn't mind Jong Hwa.
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Meghan
April 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Yonghwa*** Lol. :)
And I was reading earlier today that he's rumored to be up for casting as one of the other male leads, I guess it's a bit of a F4 situation again. Or so the rumors go. Also means there's most like 4 females.
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ys
April 5, 2013 at 10:16 AM
But...Jung Yong-hwa is a terrible, terrible, Terrible actor. Do you really want to see him act, I mean, recite words again?...
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zsa
April 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM
the question is, is he more terrible than Yunho? I think i see slight improvements in YH esp in his recent cameo in AGD...he seems more relaxed now...
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4 Gidget
April 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Cute pairing. It'll be interesting to see if her subtlety and introversion causes him to step out and go big in his performance.
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liz
April 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM
Yeah they are cute but don't have much chesmitry.
Their CFS together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZ_sBUZbzE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViigDbkGImE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1fnDvZ3tEM
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Betsy Hp
April 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Okay, they only shared the screen in that middle CF for like, 2 seconds. Everything else was filmed completely separately (to such an extent I doubt they were even on set at the same times) so I'm not sure how you got a chemistry measurement out of them...
Unless you mean in general? Like neither of them do it for you? Which -- yeah, everyone has different tastes. :)
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5 lemondoodle
April 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM
It does seem perfect, but for some reason so called perfect leads never end up meeting expectations for me. Seems like it should be a huge hit either way. I seriously hope she's not wasted in this drama like nearly every other female lead has been in Kim Eun-sook's work.
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AnotherFan
April 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Oh such good point about female talent wasted in Kim Eun-sook's dramas. Hope this doesn't happen to Park Shin-hye. It would be a pity..
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Jenny Hu
April 4, 2013 at 6:32 PM
Agreed her dramas usually make the female lead feel like a secondary character that just compliments the male lead. Park Shin-hye can hold her own weight as we've seen with her past work and it would be such a waste if she's used similarly.
Despite more eye-candy of Lee Minho, hope PSH gets a big piece of the pie too
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 4, 2013 at 7:57 PM
The only couple that met those expectations for me was Lee Jun-ki and Shin Mina.
Count me in as another one who isn't super thrilled at this news either (I wish Park Shin-hye was doing Sword and Flower instead even without Song Joong Ki, and I'm not really a huge Lee Min Ho fan)
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liera
April 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM
I am second to that. Nothing about this excite me, from the writer unless she can pen quality like City Hall again.
LMH, I skip all of his dramas, PSH, also not on my actress list, so yeah I will for sure not watching this drama.
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alua
April 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Yup, I'm with you on all that.
They are both A-list in terms of popularity, so I guess the show will be popular but so far the storyline doesn't grab me, and the casting doesn't compel me either. LMH generally never does much for me (acting or looks wise). PSH is better at acting than him, but I'm with all those that are questioning the chemistry of this pairing.
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haha!
April 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM
haha, this is first time I have same opinion with you!
I like PSH but I wanted see her in another project, and LMH...He does nothing for me as well. Btw, I see somebody using same user name so added ! in the end...
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kahoni
April 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM
The news was disappointing. I'm terrified it'll be a horribly predictable cliche drama with a female lead that's poor and people pity and an asshole rich male lead that she falls for anyways. When will writers start being more creative and original instead of creating characters that don't use the full potential of the actors?
The other drama Sword and Flower would have been newer territory for her. That would have been more interesting to watch in terms of character and letting her display different skills.
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gwen
April 5, 2013 at 4:26 AM
yup totally with you on this one! Jang Geun Suk (back then) and Moon Geun Young seemed like such a power-packed combination of youthful actors and yet MMM was such a letdown.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 6, 2013 at 6:31 AM
In all fairness to JGS and MGY, they did have chemistry - they were just horribly, HORRIBLY let down by the writing.
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6 Tania
April 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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7 iphis
April 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM
oh, CRAP. i find park shin hye really cute but she does barely anything for me as an actress. why does it feel like there's been an influx of SO many talented young male actors (think: cast of white christmas, lee jongseok, fucking yeo jingu, in addition to lee minho and besties who've been around a bit longer) and hardly any equally talented female counterparts for their age range? dramaland needs some new wimminz, damn. i liked esom in white christmas; we need some more in that mold.
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Carmensitta
April 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM
They should give Lim Ju-Eun(Oh Doo Ri in What's Up) more principal roles and the problem would be partially solved!
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Mystisith
April 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM
Good idea, that.
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Noemi
April 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM
YES.
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marid
April 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM
She's awesome, she was extremely amusing in Wild Ronancr. Her story was cuter then the main couple. I wonder why she's not getting more work.
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JC
April 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM
YES
I loved her and am really excited to see her in more projects.
Another good younger actress (although I think she's a little older) is the one who played the princess in King2Hearts.
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iphis
April 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM
oh yes i'm kindof obsessed with her.
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goldeng
April 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM
THIS SO MUCH!! Lim Ju Eun slays like 60% of the female leads out there... I've been waiting and waiting for more of her works and nothing... Oh Doo Ri is like my fav character ever~ and in Wild Romance her story with her Robot cutie was amusing and cute too... only watched for them tbh...
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Mama J
April 4, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Hear, HEAR!
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saranga
April 4, 2013 at 4:23 PM
im joo-eun! oh i like this much better—park shin-hye is cute and all, but i agree that she's never drawn me into any of her roles. she's just dull for me. i couldn't get through her latest drama (but maybe that's more to do with the flower boy series as a whole rather than her, since i couldn't finish any of the others either).
there must be other actresses out there in this age range who would make for a fresh change.
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canxi
April 4, 2013 at 6:51 PM
I'm saying though. Where the hell is that beautiful girl?!?!?! Stop giving her make-up ads and give her a damn drama.
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kfangurl
April 4, 2013 at 7:04 PM
That would be fantastic! She's awesome, that girl. Loved her in What's Up, WR, and I thot she was particularly good in Arang. Can someone please give her a lead role???
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mi n movie
April 4, 2013 at 9:12 PM
I miss im joo eun too.. (┌_⌣̩̩̀). She's the one who can make me laugh n I'm bcame a second cast story lover..wwhyyyyy??? There is no drama for her.. I think it would bee good if handsome n perfect guy like min ho meet ankward gggirl like joo eun.. N PSH just can act cute n anoying.. Sorry girl just my thougt but hope u sucsed
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alua
April 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Yes! Would love that.
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Jellybins7
April 6, 2013 at 7:21 AM
Yup. She should be in this. Am rarin' to see her on my screen again. Doo Ri if you are reading this, please audition. :)
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lansehbn
July 15, 2013 at 7:40 PM
Well, our hopes become true : http://www.hancinema.net/lim-joo-eun-to-star-in-the-heirs-58198.html
Can wait to see Lim Jueun on screen again
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Annie
April 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM
How many interesting young female roles are being written these days? If there are no young actresses around, roles won't be written with them in mind and thus nobody gets a shot at a notable debut. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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canxi
April 4, 2013 at 7:19 PM
But, there ARE young actresses around. I think the main problem is that casting directors in SK seem to go more for who's hot RIGHT NOW. Which is why we may see the same girl many times. Not that there are no interesting young female roles being written, because I don't think that's the case.
A notable debut doesn't just depend on the writing alone, it depends on the actress. Cast a good actress who'll bring light to your character and that will shine no matter how badly or "just OK" the character is written. I hate to bring it up but FASHION KING! If not for that cast (not just the guys, but the girls too!), I feel like that drama would have gotten cut SO hard. But, I mean they acted wonderfully even when the writing was tripping balls every episode and I was scratching my eyeballs out wondering why I was still watching. Those were also interesting females, to me and in the end I realized I was watching because of that interestingness...not really the story. Not at all the story, lol.
The problem would be solved just by casting talent, not just who's hot or who will pull ratings, but who's got that something. Park Shin Hye is wonderful imo, yes, and I'm gonna enjoy seeing her and Lee Min Ho together for sure...but there are also tons of girls who could fit the bill, I bet and I don't think anyone should think there isn't or that there are no interesting roles being written for young females because if that was the case, these same actresses wouldn't take these roles. You HAVE to have an interest in what you do.
Also, your comment below--I disagree there too. I think the anti has been upped and everyone is seeking talent. Pretty will be there no doubt because that's part of the reason they are on TV in the first place, but acting, oh yeah I think many certainly do care.
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Betsy Hp
April 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM
I thought Go Dok-mi was fascinating. And a pretty meaty character, too. (Flower Boy Next Door) Also, whatever the feeling about the drama, Lee Soo-yeon had an interesting trajectory. (I Miss You) And then there was pretty much every single female character in Can We Get Married... Oh -- and Arang certainly broke standard roles, which made for an interesting character. (Arang and the Magistrate)
There's definitely interesting female roles out there. (Who gets cast in them... whomever can handle the roles and bring in the audiences I presume.)
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Annie
April 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Oh, and aside from Yeo Jin Goo, I don't think any of the people mentioned are so supremely talented. Your average drama viewer wants to see handsome guys and could care less about technical ability, imo.
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iphis
April 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM
lol, you think none of those guys are supremely talented? ok. i think that's a severe underestimation of the average drama viewer. you'd also need to be more specific about which kind of drama because obviously the average viewer varies. if you mean romcoms then sure, everyone likes the pretty, but they could just watch clips or the cuts of a particular actor that fans make. just about everybody is handsome, you'd never leave the tv screen/monitor by that principle.
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pasta
April 4, 2013 at 4:32 PM
if you think lee minho is talented, then park shin hye is definitely just as talented.
and you think there are hardly any talented female actresses in their 20s? ok.
moon geun young, moon chae won, park bo young, kim so eun, so yi hyun, and there are probably some more i can't seem to think of atm.
and for the teens, the female actress playing opp. of yeo ji gu, kim yoo jung and kim sae ron are good.
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mae
April 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Jung So Min is also extremely talented...
channah
April 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Everyone that thinks that the cast of White Christmas, Lee Jong Seok or Lee Min Ho are talented is deluded.
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marid
April 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Then please enlighten us with names of the people in that age group that you consider good? Cant just insult us and not give a good reason
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Susan
April 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM
She didn't list Yeo Jin Goo as part of the "not talented" group so that's probably how high her standards are!
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fateme
April 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM
i think park shin hye is a really pretty girl but her acting is always the same !!! sry for that the only thing that matters for ppl is how pretty u are :(
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LOL
April 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM
the same can be said for lee min ho~
lee min ho is a handsome guy but he always plays the same role except for faith which he bombed in
the only thing that matters for ppl is how good looking u are :(
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liz
April 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM
PSH can act but her acting is boring adding LMH who is juust bland and stiff... I see a statue couple forming.
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nomad
April 5, 2013 at 4:38 PM
oh..the nightmare of BOF??
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Fudge
April 4, 2013 at 9:57 PM
I'm with you with this!!
PSH is such a sweetheart. I've always seen her in this innocent-cutie girl role with lots of aegyo (well atleast in YB, HS and FBND). But I'm not really into her. It's the same old sht. I'll be honest that I'm a bit disappointed that she's been cast as LMH's leading lady because maybe I expect too much.
But this is a Lee Min Ho drama, so I'll surely watch this. And I just hope PSH's role in here is different from her previous roles. I hope it's more spunky! Maybe she can finally won my heart in this drama to be into her.
Now I'm excited for the second leads!! Heard this would be like BOF + Gossip Girl drama. So, are we having 4 pair of leads? Like 4 boys and 4 girls? Please someone cast JUNG IL WOO!!
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8 Abbie
April 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM
So happy about this pairing, I've wanted them to star together for a while. Although I do hope Kim Eun-sook writes a good character to fit Park Shin-hye. I couldn't stand it if she's All About The Hero, All The Time. Just, please, NO! Looking forward to this a whole lot!
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9 zee
April 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Finally a heroine who's not older than him! very interesting news..I couldn't feel chemistry even for one sec in Faith..But now there will spark some chemistry..
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10 Ace
April 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Noooo! I like her, but...Oh well, at least it's not an idol.
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skelly
April 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Yes, at least it is not an idol. Can someone teach her how to kiss? Can she perhaps figure out how to graduate from puppy love to sexual attraction? But at least the little ups and downs provided for the female character will be well acted.
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Ace
April 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM
Hey, if LMH recovered from GHS' robot kiss in BOF then he'll probably survive this as well. And with good directing and editing, they could make it seem like she's responding too. The best kiss he had was "Game Over" with SYJ in PT. I liked his kiss with KHS in Faith even if she wasn't as responsive (it's because of her marital status) but I liked their romance more. In City Hunter, it was okay but I was more into the action-revenge stuff more than his romance with Kim Nana.
Anyway, I'm not really concerned about the kisses, I'm more concerned about the sparks. I was into SG more because of HB & HJW's chemistry. The kisses in SG weren't that good in my opinion.
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true2u
April 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Took the words right out my mouth. That was the GREATEST kiss he ever had. I mean I was all over the place when I saw that scene.
Let's hope they have a killer chemistry.
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true2u
April 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM
You my friend have just touched on the main problem I have with young female actress,(Espiscially Her, Koo Hye Sun, Park Min Young and Shin Se-Kyung) . They act like they don't know what a real kiss is. Maybe that's why I stay clear of any drama with them. I've tried so many times. It just make me cringe just watching a hug scene much less a kissing scene. Something that's supposed to be romantic and heart warming just feel like something down right wrong. It feeling like their doing something against their will. Ah well, I might just pass on this even if I love the writer's work(well, mainly "City Hall"). Sorry, her other works didn't do much for me at all. Although I do want to try and finish AGMD. "Secret Garden" still remains a no go. Now for LMH!! LOL!! After suffering watching 19 episodes of Faith,I'm kinda on the back bench with him. I tried so so so hard!! I really did, but My Gosh! what a drama. *swipes sweat* (But I'm conflicted, I always watch at least 7 episodes from this writer, so I guess I'll give it a try). Let's hope these two heats up the screen. And PLEASE don't make Park Shin-hye character childish. I want to see her as a strong leading female for once, just once.
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pham
April 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM
@true2u
I can see where you're coming from as the viewer, but if you watch the BTS many times, the director will tell them to stop moving their lips or not to open their mouths.
In BOF, the director made Lee MinHo and Gu HyeSun do a retake on their kiss in the cave b/c he wanted just a "touch" of lips. Directors want that much of the time w/ dramas to give the purity effect. (It's different w/ films where you have a lot of raunchy stuff)
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Susan
April 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM
Hahaha, I feel the same way. But I must be the only one who actually likes my relationships (onscreen) platonic. I don't need kisses or ILYs to make my viewing experience enjoyable :)
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Ivoire
April 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM
Hello Susan, does ILYs stand for I Love Yous?
Also, I will second your comment in that, though I do like watching rom-com as a genre, I don't feel the need to watch kisses to have an enjoyable viewing experience. There are so many creative ways to show that the characters like each others, and imho, Kdramas writers (from what I have seen) can be really good at that. I will be honest and say that I do like the ILYs (if it means what I think it means), even though I know that they are fictional.
I also like platonic sleepovers as a trope in Kdramas (among many other tropes). So no, I don't think you are totally alone in how you like the interactions between the characters to be in your dramas, and I know of at least another beanie who feels the way I do. That makes at least three of us. Who knows, there might be more who might not comment :-)...
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canxi
April 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM
I agree with you guys, kisses aren't needed (ex: anyone watch Bollywood movies, in the older ones no one kisses, barely touch each other...but the chemistry is always there). BUT dammit, if you're gonna have a kiss put some pep in it is all I ask.
snow_white
April 4, 2013 at 8:16 PM
agreed......a drama can be romantic even if there are no kisses.....and Bollywood movies are a perfect example....they are romantic and the chemistry is awesome as well, and usually no kisses at all....
Ivoire
April 4, 2013 at 8:17 PM
Canxi,
This is an aside, however thank you for reminding me of Bollywood movies. They showed them in my country when I was growing up at a few theaters (and no, my country is not in Asia), and I used to go watch them with my neighbor's children at least once a month, many, many years ago.
Not long ago, I came upon a TV series from India on YT. They had episodes of the show in segments (with no subtitles) and I watched a few. The main leads had so. Much. Chemistry. It was palpable and oozing off the screen. Of course they were both gorgeous (like really gorgeous, the guy was seriously hot), and they were playing hot and cold with each other (I think they must have had an argument or something and they dragged that on for a while).
The script of course had them have all kinds of "accidental skinship," and I was sooooo impressed by the chemistry oozing out of them, without a single kiss in the 2 or 3 hours of different segments I watched. The acting was excellent, and I was reminded that yes, kisses are not the only way to show that two characters are into each other (a lot :-) ). It made me want to watch their interactions BTS, and I did. They were really comfortable with each other and that was heartwarming to see.
And I think that because it might have been a TV series (and not a movie), they didn't break into songs (I was used to that when I was watching Bollywood movies back home). It was fine however, and very entertaining and quite creative.
canxi
April 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM
Ivoire,
Yes, exactly! A friend of mine is from Bangladesh, and while over her house for a sleepover we watched Bollywood movies. The couple didn't even see each other for half the movie, but I could feel the love. There was so much. There were songs too, though, LOL.
Btw, if anyone wants to watch that movie, it's called "Devdas".
Ivoire
April 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Canxi,
Thank you so much for the recommendation of that movie. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and it seems to be based on a novel by the same name. The movie also seems to have had many remakes over the years, in different languages, which is quite interesting.
I would also like to clarify that I don't mind the songs in Bollywood movies, it is just that I was expecting some in the show I was watching (out of habit, probably) and was a little surprised when that didn't happen, that's all. I will write the name down and see if I can find it on Youtube to watch it.
Oh, and snow_white, I am with you on everything you said :-)...
alua
April 4, 2013 at 11:23 PM
I don't need kisses per se either, but I agree with @canxi. If you are going to have kisses, they better be real.
Two (or one) wood plank(s) is not how people kiss in real life.
canxi
April 5, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Ivoire,
No problem! I hope you like it, if you ever watch it. It's really good and the lead actress is super epic beautiful. As well as the hero's other love interest. Also, it's ok-- I didn't think anything when you said that the show didn't have songs, lol. Maybe I should have phrased that part differently now I read it over, haha!
Snow_white! So true, usually no kisses. It's awesome how they can pull that off every time.
L'ánn
April 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM
@canxi
Ooooooo... DEVDAS is awesome!
I cried bucket for the last scene... Epic ending.
I wish there's a Korean version of Devdas :-)
Okie.. Back to this drama. I guess that Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye acting is at the same level. Both young and hardworking, good looking and good image... yeah, they'll be okay.
All the best to the both of them...
Ivoire
April 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM
@ Canxi,
I don't know if you will see this post/response, however, I am going to post/write it anyway. I was wondering what version of the movie "Devdas" you saw. When I look on Wikipedia, there were many versions (as I have mentioned), and I would like to see the version you saw. If you go to the Wiki page, do you think you could let me know, please? I would appreciate that (very much). I really want to watch it now, especially because of how you and L'ánn are enthusiastic about it.
Here is the info on the Wikipedia page:
1--The different versions of the movie (do you remember the year of the version you watched, by any chance)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdas#Film.2C_TV.2C_and_theatrical_adaptations
2--Info about the book it is based on and about the movies (the different versions): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdas
If you get to read this message and answer to it, that would be great. Have a wonderful weekend.
epuda
April 5, 2013 at 7:27 PM
hey Ivoire,
we seem to have something in common! I like Devdas too. The other lead actress, Madhuri Dixit is my family favorite. and my teenage years were spent watching her movies. And now I am in thirties.... Iam digging "baby" korean actors....how pathetic!!!:(. BTW, I love reading your comments!!
Ivoire
April 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Hellooooooo Epuda,
So good to see another response (from you) to one of my comments :-). Yes, we do seem to have one thing in common. I haven't seen Devdas yet, what year of the movie did you watch? (I am asking because they are many versions /years of the movie made and I am trying to find the one Canxi was referring to, with the beautiful actor and actress.
Thank for your compliment (about my writing), I remember you from the 7LCS episode 20 recap :-). I promised to answer to your response, and I never did, sorry about that. I thought about doing it though, I just didn't get around to doing it. I think I will still write something to Dominique and you, just so it is posted there. (I would feel better about that).
By the way, I don't think you are pathetic for digging "baby"Korean, though it depends how young we are talking about. So how young are the ones you dig?I am north of thirty myself, and I do find some of those Korean actors adorable and cute. For me, it is the personality however that wins me over, hence my love for Lee Seung-gi for instance. He is really is a people person and he knows how to interact with people. I also like the ahjussi actors a lot, because they are closer to my age group, and they have gravitas and they are really good actors and they don't get as much credit as the younger ones.
I will look Madhuri Dixit up and hopefully, I will have the time to watch some of her movies. Thank you for writing and "waving" at me :-).
dito
April 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM
@ Ivoire
sorry for butting in.....and hope you see this .....Devdas(2002) had Madhuri Dixit as the second lead.....as epuda mentioned her in the comment...I'm assuming canxi was talking of this version too,
BTW which Indian TV series did you watch? and which epi?....Can you give me the link?.......I'll explain what was going on:)...or suggest some other good ones to you:))
canxi
April 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM
Hello again!
Yes, Ivoire, I saw your post I hope you see this! Devdas from 2002 is the one like dito said!
This one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdas_(2002_Hindi_film)
epuda
April 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM
Hey Ivoire,
thanks for replying to my comment and sorry for not getting back to you immediately! for some reasons i was expecting a notification like in FB when someone comment on your post hehehe..... . Yes the one I was talking about is the one made in 2002. Although I don't like any movies or drama with sad ending this was an exception. The country I hail from watch lots and lots of hindi movies and dramas. but things are slowly changing ...korean wave is taking over...and you will find even housewives watching korean dramas!
My dalliance with korean drama began in 2007 or 2008 when I watched "Full House" and followed up with "Love to Kill". that drama put me off Korean drama for the next 3 yrs. My interest renewed when my friend recommended me to watch "coffee prince" in late 2011, then I followed up with "City Hunter" and there has been no turning back!!
I was just counting to myself and seems I have watched about 55 or so since then..and that is a enormous feat I have accomplished considering I have three children all under 10 and full hectic work schedule!! Right now I am a student again pursuing my doctorate and like one of the comments here (yours?) "so many dramas to watch yet so little time"!!
well that was a lot did I cover everything?....and for me I go for Lee Min Ho, Yoon Shi Yoon, Joo Won, Lee Jun ki,... oh well I guess all!!!!
canxi
April 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Hey Ivoire!
My comment is awaiting moderation, I guess because there is a link in it. Devdas (2002) is the one I watched :) With Sharukh Khan!
Ivoire
April 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Hello Dito, Epuda and Canxi,
Dito, I wrote you a response this morning at 7:24am, Dramabeans time (the time that shows up when your comment is posted) and it is still awaiting moderation and it is 12:15pm now, DB time. I don't know when it will be posted, however, just know that I did respond to you and also I gave you my email address so you could email me as well, since it is getting crowded here. I also added a YT link to the drama segments I have been watching (I need to add more, I just posted one). The drama I saw on YT was with Arnav and Khushi, FYI. I really liked the segments I saw, such sizzling chemistry.
@ Epuda, my computer was slow this morning, so I let it "rest" with the hope that it will run better. I had to finally restart it. I am going to write a response to you (now), however, it might have a "your comment is awaiting moderation" comment on it as well, which would mean that you might not be able to see it right away as well, just so you know.
@ Canxi, I saw your latest comment, thank you for that. I will be checking back here to see if your comment has been finally posted. Thank you for coming back and checking on the responses. I appreciate that.
Ivoire
April 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM
Hello epuda,
I hope you saw my last comment. You guys have me sold on watching "Devdas, 2002 version/edition :-)" So I will be waiting for Canxi's comment to show (she has a link in it for me, it might be of the movie) and see if I can access it (which hopefully I will be able to do).
Epuda, if I may ask you (and I don't think a lot of people are coming back to read these comments, so not many people will read this), what country do you hail from? I am originally from Cameroon (Central Africa), however I am currently living in the US. In some African countries, they show Indian movies as well in movie theaters. They did in my country when I was growing up (in a few theaters), and that was many, many, many years ago. I used to love them (as I mentioned or hinted in one of my earlier posts here) and I even used to go to the market and buy the audio tapes of my favorite singers and movies OSTs, believe it or not :-). I would listen to them at home when I was cleaning my room, etc... So yeah, Indian movies and I, we go a looooong way back.
My own dalliance with Korean dramas started in 2010 (so later than you) with Personal Taste, with no other than you know who :-) who has been discussed a lot here. I came across it on a US online website that hosts dramas and movies and shows (all kinds) from different countries called HULU. They had ventured into showing Korean dramas, which are slowly becoming popular in the US. BOF was then recommended to me, and I couldn't stand the F4 boys, so I stopped at episode 3. I was encouraged to watch more from a friend of mine, which I did and I kind of liked it. I was not on GJP's team however, I always rooted for Jin-ho (Kim Hyun Joong's character) and I liked the Kim Bum and Kim So Eun's pairing as well. I also liked how LMH looked like in PT and in BOF (the way his hair was styled, etc...).
I watched a few more, some better than others, and I discovered that we actually had 2 Korean TV stations in my area, so I had them on whenever I could. I watched more dramas that way and was introduced to more genres. I have come to find out that I really love the ones that make me think, such as political dramas, some historical ones (Gaksital, The King 2 Hearts) and I love some rom-com as well. I actually like many genres as long as the acting is really good, the OST is wonderful (I love Faith OST, not so much the drama, or at least not as much as I like the OST. I like some of the acting in Faith and some of the scenes, but not the whole drama), the cinematography (That Winter, The Wind Blows, The Moon That Embraces The Sun) and I also love dramas that have actors in their 30s and up, because many of them are really good actors (The King of Dramas with Kim Myun Min [sp?]) and now "All about My Romance" with Shin Ha Kyun.
I have watched a lot of dramas, however I am not sure that I have watched as many as you. I tend to take my time to watch them and I participate on blogs a lot (mostly this one. I sometimes write on two other ones as well), so, that is time consuming as well. I think I like reading and writing about dramas and the K. entertainment world more than I do watching them. I also like some of their variety shows like "We Got Married," Happy Together, 1Night2Days and a few more that I have watched.
What drew you to Korean dramas? I personally like that they are more chaste (in general) than what I see on US TV. Yes there are good looking people in it (many of whom have had some form of plastic surgery to achieve their looks), however I like more so that I get to be exposed and learn about a different world, culture, language (I am a linguist, I speak 4 different languages fluently), food, music, etc... Korean dramas have lead to my (serious) interest in the two Koreas, and I am grateful for that. I also like that many of their cultural traditions/habits are similar to the ones in some African countries, so I can relate to some of what I see about the Korean culture.
I do agree with you that it is an enormous feat that you have watched so many dramas, considering how busy your life has been. If you don't mind my asking, what are you getting your doctorate in? And yes, I was the one who said this week, “so many dramas to watch yet so little time”!! or something along those lines in "The Mandate of Heaven's Man" thread. I guess you read that as well :-). It is neat that you have children. I don't have any, but I am the older of 6 (I grew up being the 2nd mom :-) ). I have worked with children for many, many, many years now as a nanny, so I have been around children for a long time.
Regarding your last paragraph, the actors you mentioned are all of legal and of a decent age. I was wondering if they might be younger. I gave my email address in my response to Dito, so when that post is posted, please feel free to email me (if you are OK with that). I have done that with some people here before, and I have never had any problems, so far. Just a thought :-)... I don't want to write it again (my email address), in case it causes my comment to await moderation, because then I don't know when this comment will be posted. I think my post ended up being longer than yours :-)... And I believe I covered everything :-)
canxi
April 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Ivoire,
I came back to see if you saw my response, lol. You don't actually have to wait for the comment to show up. The link was just a wiki link so that you could see poster and maybe get more info on it.
I could send you a link, though! In an e-mail?
Ivoire
April 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Hello Canxi,
Thank you for checking back and forth. I included my email address in my message to Dito, so please email me there and please remind me that we "met" here on DB and on this thread (about LMH and PSH) so that I would know that it is you (and also remind that you are Canxi here). Thank you for doing that :-)... I don't want to write my email again, in case my post needs to await moderation again, which will take longer to post :-).
Ivoire
April 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM
Hello Dito,
Thank you for butting in :-). I am soooo glad you did. Thank you for the recommendation for the Devdas movie 2002. Do you think I could find it on YT? I will look for it there.
The Indian drama/series I watched was with Arnav and Khushi (that is what I have been seeing on YT). I have rarely seen such wonderful and oozing chemistry on screen from two people who don't kiss each other (on the lips) and I personally like that. I have seen several segments, and it will take me a while to find them. Here is one that I just watched, if you could explain this to me, I would appreciate it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XkUnmil2NI
Also, since this is getting crowded, you can email me here: [email protected]
I hope that is OK with you :-). Please let me know.
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April 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM
@ Ivoire
I KNEW IT!!:)).........it was IPK (Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon - What Name Should We Give This Love...literal trans.)......i'm a huge fan too...Barun and Sanaya had phenomenal chemistry.....no one comes close to them...........i'll email you the happenings in the scene........hope you're watching them in order.....from the start.....i'll give you links to them...the earlier epi's had so many good scenes .....when they were just beginning to have feelings for each other.... this scene was after the misunderstanding .....and after their forced wedding.
Maris
June 14, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon is really the best indian TV drama for me with unbelievable chemistry between the main leads . Barun and Sanaya who were great together.....even without any spoken words or kissing scenes one could feel the depth of their love for each other.
epuda
April 4, 2013 at 6:24 PM
Yeah that was my first thought "kisses will be wasted"....can I go and kiss LMH on her behalf ...please!! :)
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phoenix
April 4, 2013 at 6:53 PM
she is so stiff in her kiss scenes. i mean u are in love and you want him and the only thing u do when he finally kisses you is having your eyes open??lol
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canxi
April 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM
LOL, true true. I think Park Shin Hye is lovely but then a kiss scene comes and everything romantic she built up till then with her co-star gets dissipated as soon as they, quite literally, touch lips. It's so weird, I dunno if they are just simply uncomfortable or if the director tells them to hold back....I know sometimes I see BTS and the director does do that and I'm sitting around like "WHY?!?" Make it hot or just don't do it. It's not like she is under age.
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YY
April 5, 2013 at 12:50 AM
Agree, agree.....sometimes I wish they'd not kiss instead. The moment they kiss, it's so awkward I snap back to reality and think, ok, they're acting, and the romance just poof! disappears. I remember watching "Constantine" with Keanu Reeves and Rachael Weizs, and they never kissed, not once, but there was so much palpable chemistry between them, and the most romantic scene was two of them leaning in so close, noses almost touching, and it's just so romantic. In 49 Days, Kang-ah and the girl never kiss, but the scene where their hands just lightly graze each other was beautiful. No kiss, no words. Just that fleeting moment of tenderness.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 4, 2013 at 8:01 PM
That last kiss in Flower Boy Next Door though....UNF.
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Aliya
April 5, 2013 at 7:37 AM
That was ALL Yoon Si Yoon though *_______* His kissing is seriously hot. Even when coupled with someone 'shy' like PSH he made it look insanely hot. I hope LMH can do the same.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM
She did her bit, too - I saw head-tilting to reach his lips, and even a wee bit of lip movement and clutching on to is coat to hold him tighter - SUCH an improvement over the kiss before that.
And I don't think it's entirely fair to single her out for not actively participating in her on-screen kisses when 90% of Korean actresses in dramas do the exact same thing, usually on PD's orders, and the guys are the ones who do all the work.
For an example, just look at Nice Guy or even the celebrated 'game over' kiss from Personal Taste - Song Joong Ki and Lee Min-ho were the ones who looked like they were doing all the kissing (and sometimes this is down to editing too - in BTS footage, there's a split-second shot of MCW actually kissing SJK back on the police station steps....but it's not in the scene
Just to clarify, I'm not asking for everyone to be Frenching, but it would be a wee bit more convincing if they were allowed to look like they were into a kiss instead of just tolerating it. (Yoon Eun-hye and Jung So-min are two awesome exceptions to this rule, though)
909
April 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Kiss scenes have changed so much over the years, it's quite sad. Actors & Actresses used to make an effort and make it look so real in the past, but now... *sigh* I think I blame mostly the directors cuz they seem to never get over the whole *wide-eyed stare/ arms down/ 5 second camera freeze/ girl and boy holding their breath/ camera spinning around 360 degrees* The directors should give more freedom! And actresses also should try a little harder. I still remember My Lovely Sam Soon kiss scene and Worlds Within (?) with Hyun Bin and Hye Kyo plentiful amount of kissing scenes or even Flower Boy Ramen Shop (...I think I got that wrong lol)....etc
If you're gonna do it, try harder, or don't do it at all.
Romance films don't always need kissing scenes to show their love, nor does sadness always require tears, and anger doesn't have to equal to shouting.
kahoni
April 5, 2013 at 11:57 PM
She no doubt can do sexy, have you seen her Jambangee ads?
Blame it on the roles that don't ask for sexy.
http://www.shinhye.org/2013/02/photo-park-shinhye-for-jambangee-ss-2013.html
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11 Honora
April 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM
OMG! This must be a dream!
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12 graceface
April 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM
SO MUCH POTENTIAL. LOVE THEM BOTH. Hopefully the drama/writing/directing will complement this great casting!
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13 skelly
April 4, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Some people are going to be so thrilled about this.
I like her well enough, she just hasn't any chemistry - with anyone - that isn't cute and sweet and asexual. I know just what sort of relationship it is going to be: he is going to be a jerk, in an atmosphere filled with silly misunderstandings, arguments that hurt for exactly a day, and clever hijinks like the knit skirt being unravelled by a stray thread. He will probably think that she likes the other guy, while she is convinced he likes the other girl. In the end, she will look up at him with her huge, adoring eyes and he will melt, and the audience will all say, 'awwww.' Cue one lip-locked kiss, same as in FBND, and end. Maybe I need more edgy in my dramas, because this whole premise, and the pairing, is boring me out of my skull.
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Noemi
April 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM
I have to agree with you about the chemistry bit, if you're talking about sexual attraction type of chemistry. That type I haven't really seen out of PSH, at least in my opinion. But I think PSH as Dok Mi had great emotional chemistry with YSY as Enrique in that old souls kind of way. Call me superficial, though...I don't really want to see old souls kind of chemistry between her and Lee Min Ho. I want to see some sparks fly!
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true2u
April 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM
LOL!!!! I can see it now. But you have to put into consideration who the writer is. She did writer the masterpiece that was "City Hall" and boy what a ride that was. But I can see where ur coming from. I'm tired of the "‘awwww.’ Cue one lip-locked kiss," scene as much as the next person. I want to see some hardcore sparks flying. I don't want to force myself thinking "They are in love* I want to feel like their in love. Not just acting out what the script say. I want them to bring that scripted character to life. I want them to own it, make it that no one can out shine their awesomeness, should there be a future remake of this drama.
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danteee
April 4, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Wow, then doesn't that make PSH an amazing women? I mean, she got all these handsome co-stars and yet she doesn't even like any of them romantically (hence, why no chemistry) where we viewers will probably faint if any of the male stars were in front of us XD
I haven't watched Heartstrings but can someone tell me if she and Yonghwa had good chemistry? :o
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AJ
April 4, 2013 at 4:58 PM
No, they did not. I like to believe thats because they are such good friends they did not know how to have chemistry. You could tell during the kissing scenes they did not know how to kiss each other, and they did not want to kiss each other. What made that drama was how you could feel that they really did care for each other, but the relationship felt more like a best friend relationship more than a romantic one.
I find it funny that if Yong-hwa does sign in PSH will have been in all the dramas he has been in.
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hmmm
April 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM
that's why the whole Korea believe they are dating ... LOL
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Gom
April 4, 2013 at 9:22 PM
The kiss in Heartstrings was one of the most painful and awkward things I have had to watch in my entire kdrama-viewing life. Even their back hug was icky to watch because it felt like they were in pain doing it.
They had incredible chemistry as teenage-y, cutesy lovers. But no emotional attraction that transcends into the physical, if that makes sense. You know how some pairings just glides into the scenes with so much chemistry that they seem like their dancing somehow? Well, they don't have that.
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skelly
April 4, 2013 at 5:06 PM
No, but Yonghwa was pretty hot with his older woman crush.
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true2u
April 4, 2013 at 5:11 PM
See, it's the older girls that get these men outside their box.
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Gom
April 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM
I had to repeatedly remind myself who the true pairing was because aside from that hot noona crush, Park Shin Hye's character also had something going on with the guy coach that she and Yong Hwa didn't have. Thinking about it now, that drama was quite weird.
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Ano
April 5, 2013 at 2:07 AM
Anyone ever watched PSH and Lee Wan in Stairways to Heaven and Tree of Heaven (?... I hope I got the last title right).
I think what Shin Hye need is a strong male lead... Someone that can play broody roles... I love the chemistry between PSH & Lee Wan or Kim Tae Hee's little brother (where the hell is he now??)
I like PSH's acting in her early days... But now, she always fall for the same safe role over and over again.
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tosin
April 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM
lol I hope this doesn't happen...this seems to happen in like most of lee min ho and park shin hye's dramas :/
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Mar
April 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM
I have reservations also on the chemistry thing and PSH, but I also take into account the writing and directing and project over all. How much lack of heat can we put on the actors when script and directing choices don't call for heat? We all know that YSY can throw some heat, but that's not the direction that FBND went (much to my dis