I feel like it is important to note that this normally is never a male teacher with female student because that seems to add to the predatory nature of it and just plain creepiness. Also it gets rid of the whole, yep when I'm that lady's age, a 19 year-old is going to think I'm smoking hot too. I think it is so hard because the drama has to balance having the audience forget the age gap to accept the couple while also dealing with the fact that oh hey this is illegal. But I had not heard of Biscuit Teacher, I might have to check it out if it actually figured out the right formula.

Where I can watch or DL torrent for Biscuit Teacher ?

Dying to watch it but no luck.

Now I have to rewatch FBRS..., thanks ladies!

There seems to be a huge disconnect with Kdramas and the way the world really works --- students and teachers don't get involved, and men of all ages are too busy chasing young women to even give an old maid like myself the time of day. Watching noona dramas has become kind of a painful experience for me because I'm so keenly aware that it's all a dream.

It's funny how I did not like any of the dramas listed and it had nothing to do with the teacher/student relationship. Just did not like the dramas.

I think the problem with Big was that a, it didn't know what it wanted to be and b, couldn't really be what it should've been--if that makes any sense at all.

Watching it was like watching a 6-year-old kid who, believing he's going to invent a rocket ship (in like the next ten years) struggles with long division even though he can't add, subtract...hell even multiply for that matter. If Big had just focused on the romance and stopped trying to go for the deeply philosophical, emotionally-wrough, angst-driven conflict of test-tube babies and weird-ass convoluted ramblings about my-life-could've-been-your-life-except-it-totally-wasn't, it would've been something entirely different. Though this is not to say that emotionally moving rom-coms are bad especially with a predecessor like Coffee Prince doing such a good job of it. But rather that 'Big' tried to deny its rom-comness in favor of le angst and le anger and le wild declarations of LURV. If it had just focused on the inherent conflict in cradle-robbin' lovin' and the shenanigans that come about because of it, it probably would've been bearable if not enjoyable.

But noooo, we get 20 episodes of a spineless doe-eyed sap of a teacher and hot sexy Gong Yoo...er I mean, a overly-ambitious pseudo-adult student running around in circles like two kids on a sugar high after Halloween. SMH. I've never been so disappointed in my life.

...I still love you Gong Yoo. Please do another drama...one that offers at least 5 gratuitous shirtless scenes since there (obviously) were not enough in Big. Just sayin'

What other noona dramas are in the works? Can't think of any besides Faith and I doubt romance will be the big selling point of that drama. On the contrary, my friend in Korea claims that people seem to be tired of noona romances because, despite then novelty factor, East Asians in general are just so age-conscious. Hope we don't have to say RIP to the noona drama just yet since the trend only started in 2010 iirc...

I think I was ok with Flower boy Raymun shop due to the fact that she wasnt even technically a teacher yet and 90 percent of the drama was done outside of the school so you kind of forget that he's a student and she was suppose to be his teacher. I also like when the characters look older then 19. My biggest problem in Big ( besides the story and execution ) was that Shin looks 19 and Min Jung looks 30. * Although I think Lee Min Jung is beautiful she ain't 19 * With the other dramas the guys always look a bit older so I tend to forget the age they are playing. I also agree that if the situation were reversed (young girl+ older guy ) it does add a level of creeper-ness. I know it sounds sexist but you just think that a guy can handle himself where a young girl is probably being taken advantage of. As a girl I'm all about equality and all that jazz but I have to admit I might not be comfortable watching a 19 yr old girl romance a 30 yr old man. I don't know...

Yes, GF, I had a young, hot, history teacher in high school. Ah, Richard Hewes, you have remained unchanged in my yearbook...but, I, alas, have not.

All these boys are in their twenties playing highschoolers. That's why I generally forgive it. It is creepy in real life when you see it but it's a huge taboo so that's why it's such dramatic fodder for shows. And they get charasmatic men who can act like boys so it's cute. Younger people are more likely to have bleeding hearts too, which you can't help not root for. :)

Sorry to say that k-dramas version is pretty tame. They're light-hearted fantasy drama written to please the women audience. The actresses are young, not a real cougar. Lee Chung Ah is only 3 years older than Jung Il Woo. Gong Yoo is older than Gong Hyo Jin in Biscuit teacher. Plus, in Big, the young boy sleeps till the end of the drama, it's Gong Yoo and Lee Min Jung in the end.

I wonder if they bring in a real real old actress, i wonder these dramas still sell... I know I will cringed... because I cringed when I see my dear Tackey romancing Nanako in Majo No Jouken (japanese drama).. Now, that's a more realistic cradle robbing drama.. and surprising awesome!

Is it juste me, or in all these nouba dramas they chose an actor who doesn't really look like a teenager (il woo has boyish looks but he still looks adult). I guess "big" wouldn't have worked if we had shin&Minjung couple and no Gong yoo

Is it juste me, or in all these nouba dramas they chose an actor who doesn't really look like a teenager (il woo has boyish looks but he still looks adult). I guess "big" wouldn't have worked if we had shin&Minjung couple and no Gong yoo.

a lot of people are bringing age differences into this. tbh, as long as they're legal, i have less problems with the age gap than i have with the inherent power imbalance in student-teacher relationships.

i assume why most people can accept this particular trope in kdramas is because usually the actor portraying the student is well over legal age, thus giving us the illusion that everything will be okay. conversely, it's probably why some people have problems with kyung-joon romancing gil teacher because shin won-ho looks significantly younger and much more jailbait-ish.

i've never seen biscuit teacher but am a huge GY fan after watching BIG (missed CP the first time around cause i only got into kdramas last year). do you all recommend i watch this? also a fan of GHJ.

only if the ending is satisfying of course. can't deal with another let down after the BIG ending.

You forgot the drama Romance with Kim Ha Neul and Kim Jae Won. That was something....hahaha

And Loveholic with Kang Ta and Kim Kyu Ri...That was really odd as well...the guy goes to jail to cover up for his teacher's medical condition.

Nothing could ever diminish my love for Biscuit Teacher, which is hands down the best school drama I've ever watched (and the only one I've been able to stomach - something about school dramas just never seems to be able to keep my attention for more than a few episodes). While I haven't seen Flower Boy Ramyun shop, so I can't comment on that, I do agree that Biscuit handled the situation realistically. There were real enough stakes and hurdles for the leading couple, and the mini arcs about the other students' stories throughout it all was just the icing on top.

Big, on the other hand, took nearly every wrong turn and somehow made it even worse. Like their inability to juggle multiple characters and give them depth, in Big, the Hong Sisters were also unable to balance multiple plot points and allow them both to develop. The Hong Sisters chose to focus the drama on the magical body switch more than the teacher-student issue, which I normally wouldn't have a problem with - except for the fact that in choosing to drop a potentially great and engaging narrative, they ended up fumbling the one they actually ended up picking.

Gong yoo had me at biscuit teacher - many many moons ago. Also loved Kim jae won in Romance.

While watching these dramas, I've wanted more and more plots along the lines of Teacher-Student romance cuz I love them! But when I think about it in a real life situation, I get so grossed out!! LOL :P You're totally right about that point.
And yes, why are always JIW and GY always in the teacher-student romance dramas, its such a coincidence!! ^_^ But it's not like I'm complaining ;P

LOL at the last bit.

I don't get the student/teacher romance plots. They kinda make you stop and wonder why would the writer do this. I haven't watched Biscuit. I watched and loved Flower Boy Ramyun Shop, but that had basically nothing to do with the high school setting and the story took place outside of school. FBRS would have worked just fine without her being his teacher. I was not into Big although I wanted to be because of Gong Yoo.

I think student/teacher relationships just create issues in kdramas that are a little iffy IMO and then they confound them with age gap differences. The issue with kdrama student/teacher romances tends to not be the age gap (since most of the heroes are pretty much legal and they never do anything till everyone is legal), but the power imbalance. Hence why a student/teacher relationship in college still brings up not so fun ethical issues.

As for noona romances, there are a lot of them, but I think people categorize more romances as noona romances than there really are. Noona romances also tend to be the trendy dramas with young stars that get lots of attention especially with the international crowd.

If we were to count all the "oppa romances" the list would run off this page into eternity.

It only takes maybe a 2 year age difference to make romance a noona romance, but if the guy is 2 years older or 6 or 8 or even 10 it's not even an issue. The age gap has to be 10+ for it to be mentioned and if the woman is mature it's still not an issue. Just calling that out for the record.

The other thing is a lot of the popular male stars out there are young. Lee Min Ho is 25(?) and it seems that now he will be taking on roles where he plays older than he is in real life. Till Lee Min Ho is 30, I doubt he will be playing people actually his age. Jung Il Woo has done the opposite playing people younger than him in real life. Yoon Shi Yoon who was casted in Me Too Flower at the last minute played older than he is next to Lee Ji Ah (who is older than him in real life and looks older than him) and he has a total baby face, but in the drama they are suppose to be the same age. Sometimes the story isn't about a noona romance, but it appears that way because of casting issues.

Also, I'm calling it- Yoo Seung Ho is so the next young talented guy to fall into this quandary. He's hot and looks older than he is. Probably he will get casted that way wooing some older woman, even when older means 23yrs old(!).

I love both noona romances and oppa romances. As long as we have a good story with a couple who have crackling chemistry, I'm in!

Jung Il Woo does intense really well.
In America, teacher-student romance are, shall we say, dealt with pretty harshly. Forget fired, try jailed and blacklisted.

Slightly OT: is there a specific term for younger boyfriend and girlfriend, i.e. the opp. of oppa and noona? dongsaeng doesn't work unless used for siblings or non-romantically involved juniors, right?

What annoys me more than the teacher/student romance is all the people that think such relationships are immoral. Strange, yes. Illegal, yes. Immoral? I feel like these sort of dramas have something to say about love that shouldn't be ignored.

Sure, many relationships with such an age difference do not work out. That might make such a relationship a large risk, or potentially harmful, but NOT immoral. Especially considering that in the context of the drama, both characters are obviously mature enough to make relatively informed choices regarding their desires.

I think that's missing aspects of the power in the relationship which is precisely why this type of relationship is generally not only frowned upon but illegal in many countries.

I might be misremembering (i've only watched it once as I wasn't as much of a fan) but I wasn't as sure that Ramyun Shop did address it. I thought there attempt to leave that aspect behind was to get it out of school, him change from school uniform and generally to pretend/forget he wasn't a school boy.

As Eye Candy says up top, and I completely agree - a gender reversal would generate a very different reaction to these stories and, I think, rightly.

Biscuit Candy I thought was well performed and did look at the fall out- but they were so clearly in favour of the main relationship that that did still skew it quite a bit.

Out of curiosity, which episodes does JIW star in? All i know about Unstoppable high kick is that there are alot of episodes...other than that, never watched it. Maybe I'll watch the parts with him though hehe.

I don't have problem with age gap differences between male and female, whether the male is a lot older or the female (a female 15 years older than the male is not a strange case 'cause it happens around us ), BUT NOT with student-teacher relationship, especially if it is in high school.
I am a teacher in high school and because of my friendly character and my style that somehow I look younger than my age. I can sense some of my male students' interest and I often feel uncomfortable of that, because a few of them cannot differentiate between adoration like to an older sister or to a female. I don't want to be their fantasy.
Thus, I don't understand the student-teacher romance in FBRS and especially, Big.First, it's not a matter of age gap to me, but about maturity gap. The dramas don't convince me about the maturity of the boys to have a relationship with older women. Thus, I guess why the writer need time jump to convince us. But then to me, why don't the realtionship start then?
Second, there is an ethic as a teacher. No matter how big your love is, to continue being a teacher while responding to the feeling of her student is just not right.

Noona drama's don't bother me because most of the time the character's are adults,this is not true for the teacher student relationship the age difference takes a back seat because it's crossing the lines of trust between the adult, student and parent.

Lets be honest what kind of a relationship can a woman have with a teenage boy, it's certainly not a healthy one. I'm not saying that you can't be physically drawn to him but would you really fall in love and risk everything for him. If you did most people would think you were nuts.

There is not a parent in the world that sends their teenager off to school even considers the possibility that the teacher would fall in love with their kid. That's why most object to these relationships even in drama's.

In Biscuit the teacher never crosses the line with him and when he about to graduate she tell's go to collage and just like she did come back when you are an adult.
It also helped that he really didn't look like a kid. That can be the saving grace.

Oooh! Don't forget Romance (2002) with Kim Ha Neul and Kim Jae Won! That was my very first teacher-student kdrama...

In real life about a few years ago, wasn't there an actor in his teens that had a relationship with his director/ producer? I think she got pregnant too.. I just can't remember his name. Anyone?