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"Ivy, you’re awesome!" Thanks, OTS :-)!!! I am, am I not? I am glad you got a kick out of this. I do aim to please, you know :-). I hope your weekend is going well!!!
And I read it, thank you soooo much. I am now curious about the whole recipe. I know you told me how to make it to get that shape, but now I am curious about the taste. What are the seasonings that your mom and/or you use with the eggs? Please share with me everything you know about how to make this omelet scrumpdelicious (I am just trying to make up a word) :-)...
as I told OTS, I do AIM TO PLEASE :-)!!! and it seems that I might have accomplished my goal. Well, a part of my job here is done then. (another part of my job here is to contribute very thoughtful and detailed commentaries most of the time :-))
Oooops, I signed with the wrong screen name. This is what happens when one has multiple names *SMH* Hard to keep up with which one I am supposed to use :-)
It IS a very appropriate name, isn't it? Just perfect :-). It represents well my persona here on DB and in life in general.
I have been good. I spent Wed. night through Friday morning with a 2 year old, so I was exhausted when I came back home. But it was good. How are you? How was your weekend?
Bonjour! I had to track down the comment from last week's OT to figure out what was going on! Good to see you here, Ivorie, because I was wondering how there could be an OT without you!
I am glad to see that you caught on. This is just a little inside joke that some people on OT will get.
" Good to see you here, Ivorie, because I was wondering how there could be an OT without you!" Thank you for the compliment (I am taking this comment as one), that was kind of you...
Thank you, Maya :-)! If you are given a name, you gotta wear it, you know, and wear it proudly. That's what I am trying to do here. And I am really glad people got a good chuckle out of it.
I hope you are having a great (long) weekend :-)!!!
Happy OT, everyone!! Off to do grocery shopping now. In the meantime, can anyone tell me whether there usually is much difference between Viki and Dramafever subs? And if yes, which ones are better?
there is a difference but it isn't consistent. I like literal subs you get some really nice korean expressions that way, more often than not viki has them while dramafever has western colloquialisms. There are times when the Viki and dramafever subs are both barebones- I think usually after the editing on viki depending on how soon the episodes were subbed.
the subs on Viki seem to be more true to the actual words spoken, rather than the gist of the meaning. (like, if you had someone translating sentence by sentence, rather than conversation by conversation) Some of the jokes are more cultural and don't translate as well and sometimes there's a play on words that involves the sound of the words, so those often don't make sense.
I think the most consistent subbing teams are on viki. I know about the jokes not coming over- or how someone can misunderstand who or what is being talked about when the previous sub said . . . but I think this issue is resolved for watchers when they learn more about the language and culture they're watching. One example that comes to mind of the limitations of subbing is in 1% of anything when the guy is saying something similar to "that person wants you to marry" and the girl misunderstands his meaning as his grandfather wants to marry her. The subs clearly state that the grandfather is the one anxious for the match between the two people so the girl misunderstanding doesn't make any sense at all. Subbers have a hard job. Maybe I'll join a spanish team.
Ok I have a stupid viki related sub question. How do you watch sans commentary. Last week I was there to watch Arang and Panda/hedgehog and though they were sometimes funny I kept being distracted by reading both the subs and the commentary at the top of the screen (Which for panda/hedgehog meant a lot of fangirling over Donghae). I have watched viki videos before without the commentary, so am a little confused on why some have them and some don't...
It's an easy fix! When you're watching a video on viki and you roll over it will your mouse, there's 4 little tabs on the far right of the video and the bar at the bottom with the video time/length, volume, and pixel setting. The option to turn off commentary is the very top little tab on the far right. It looks like a speech bubble. Just click it and it will go from white (comments are on) to gray (comments are off). Hope this helps!
I have seen some differences in translations between Viki and Dramafever AND Dramabeans (which then makes me confused about which translation I should consider). Regarding Viki and Dramafever, I am not sure which one is better. I remember one of the 1st episodes of "Faith" where one spy girl was talking to one of the bad guys and Dramafever just said that they were talking in a foreign language, and didn't translate what was being said. When I went to Viki (I stopped and went and checked at Viki), they had actually translated that conversation. I decided to stay with Viki because I felt that at least there, more of the drama was translated as a whole, or at least paraphrased. I know that Viki has typing errors at times, but I can always make or know what they meant to say because of the context and because of what was said before.
I think other OTers will be able to tell you the differences better than I would. If you don't mind reading translations, and if you have the time, you can also compare the translations with "With S2 Fansubs", which link you can find at the bottom of the page of Dramabeans on the right, under "Linky." The subbers at "With S2 Fansubs" are very thorough (and slower because they take their time to be that thorough and I think it is volunteer work as well). Some here will be able to tell you more about "With S2 Fansubs" as well.
DF hires their subbers. Some come from WITHs2 subbers.
There can be different subbers from one episode to the next. Therefore the differences varies from series to series, episode to episode.
I am going offline to bed so someone else can expand on this.
Episode 5 of Faith- DF the King's position was subbed as "seat " instead of position when the King was talking about his position of being a King ( I am summarizing a conversation some of us had re DF vs viki subs )
Someone said there was a line somewhere " She is a tough cookie but she is ? soft dough inside" or something like that in a sageuk drama. :-)
I can tell you which subs are good provided you get the officially released subs from the Soompi threads ( some recent dramas as examples )- Kings 2Hearts, QIHM, Golden Time, Bridal Mask and Arang. Hauendae Lovers. From the other subbing team.
I was told- I could be wrong- that WITHs2 lost some subbers lately. I would be happy to be wrong as I download their softsubs as well for some series.
Hope it helps. I read these info and it's in one ear out the other.
withs2 used to be the hallmark of quality- well they were very respected when I was gobbling up dramas on mute. But when I started watching and learning korean I cringed at the lost words, jokes. But they are also inconsistent.
Crackhead?You remembered which episode I would look.That is so odd when we've been trying not to use modern terms.
The problem is that someone has been ripping viki subs before it gets edited and posted on various sites and hatdsubbed onto videos.The final subs should not have crackhead.
oh they definitely did it - episode 3 I think? Possibly 2. I remember seeing that and thinking it was odd. I mean, clearly it's fusion but that's a LOT of fusion.
I watch both DF and viki. I joined DF when they first opened. At the very beginning, DF bought their subbed stuff from other people, so there really wasn't much difference between them and viki. But for the past year or so, DF has been doing their own subs, and I find them frustrating at times for these reasons:
- they do not translate written material, like a note or the menu board (very important!) in Kimchi Family
- they tend to replace Korean idioms with North American idioms, which don't always fit (especially in sageuks)
- they will summarize things: I hate it when a character talks for a long time and DF gives you one sentence
- they replace common methods of address (oppa, hyung, etc.) with names, so you lose that layer of meaning.
that being said, they are getting much faster, and their site always has good quality video and I never get nasty viruses, annoying game pop-ups, or commercials (I'm a member). They keep track of what I've watched, where I left off, and what I would like to watch in the future, and the comments are fairly useful.
For a show that I really like, I'll watch both DF and viki - DF to get the comfortable viewing experience, then viki to get more words, both top and bottom (sometimes the top scroll of comments is more entertaining than the actual show...).
Yeah literal subs are sometime more entertaining.Like for Golden Time there was a line where I think the intestines were herniating out from the incision.The viki sub was "the intestines were crawling out ". I was totally eeked out but left it as it is because it was literal.
The thing I find amusing are actually the literal translations of Korean swearing .There are some really funny lines out there
This!!!! You have captured my frustrations with DF perfectly. I especially hate it when someone gets a phone call and they show the phone but they don't say who it is. (I am always like who is it!!!!! who was it!!!)
Or when someone reads something shocking or pivotal in a letter and they don't sub it!
Thanks so much for the awesome comments and the advise! You guys are awesome.
And I can't stress enough how SUPER GRATEFUL I am to all the subbers out there!!!! Of course, we non-Korean speakers wish for high quality subs, but to be honest, I would never dare complain about typos or weird words and stuff ... To be able to watch KDrama hours or a few days after they air is simply a gift and, well, priceless!
I think it's impossible to generalize, as each individual subber handles things differently, but it's definitely true that DramaFever's subs are more Western-flavored (e.g., they use people's names in the subs, not words like oppa or noona). For my money, WITH S2's subs tend to be the best—they seem to try to convey the delivery of the words, not just the meaning (e.g., dialogue isn't presented in perfect sentence form).
Watching Arang and the Magistrate you get a sense of why “family” is so important in Korean culture, since they are the ones that will care to give you offerings of food and clothes and stuff.
Most of my Korean friends are Buddhist because I know they practice the yearly ancestor prayers. So I’m wondering, since there’s also a large Christian population, how does that influence their traditions? Do they still do ancestor rituals too?
I've seen it portrayed 2 ways in dramas- the families that don't because they're christian- and the families that have one parent form each religion and they do the rituals. The christian parent is usually catholic which I find very strange.
The original culture is hard to erase, like USAers who was their hair according to eh phase of the moon. Like Christians who are afraid of ghost. Like Koreans misogynist society. Old ways and beliefs persist and you have a weird composite. Cheju/Jedu island has different old religeon thus it's a composites with Confucius and Jesus beliefs.
It's like Easter Eggs/Bunny. Decades of atheist Communist rule couldn't erase their 'Easter' ritual of boys getting drunk and getting eggs thrown at them. When a boy catches a girl, he puts her over his knees, pulls up her skirt and spanks her. Spring fertility rite = USA's Easter bunny & egg. A composite
Wash their hair according to the phase of the moon? I have never heard of that (and I have spent all 50+ years in Michigan or California) - how have I missed out? Is it an East Coast thang? (It does sound very California, though - are auras involved?)
Wow, I wondered about that, too, and I'm an east coaster born and raised! Maybe it was an old wives' tale from the backwoods of the Appalachians or something, from the days when they only bathed once a month...
Have never ever ever ever heard of USA folks washing their hair according to the phase of the moon. The US is made up of so many cultures...it's hard to think of all of us US folks generally sharing one tradition. Christians being afraid of ghosts? Not sure about that one either. Some Christians believe in ghosts and believe a command in Jesus name will dispel them. Some Christians don't believe in ghosts. Some Christians believe ghosts are demons. Some Christians don't believe in the supernatural. Generally speaking, in any culture, there are folks who might be afraid of ghost and folks who aren't. Japan, Korea, and the US have tons of horror movies about both good ghosts and bad ghosts.
As for ancestors, it all depends. Christianity is wide enough to include all kinds of cultural situations. Some folks honor the ancestors, some folks don't. I remember our (episcopalian) priest's wife. Naeko. Buddhist before she converted to Christianity. Born in Japan. Her family renounced her because while she honored the ancestors she simply did not believe her ancestors' salvation depended on her. And because she didn't believe that, it didn't serve to have a descendant not worshiping the ancestors. So they cut her loose. I'm thinking it probably depends on the family and how seriously Buddhist or seriously Christian they are.
Oh you are watching Romance of the three kingdoms? Which episode are you on? I started last year didn't finish as subs were taking a long time but I want to continue.
My goodness RMPW was AMAZING! And I agree with oftheshore, the ending definitely raised my expectations about the episodes to come and the series as a whole ^_^
Well, I don't have time to get hooked on another country's dramas anyways, especially now that I'm hooked on RMPW thanks to your suggestion! But I do find that I drop a lot more than I used to, because I have to use my time wisely!
OMG Geet ?!! Before I became a fan of Asian dramas I was/still am a die-hard Bollywood fan which led me to Indian tv serials. I honestly watched a show called Dil Mil Gaye with no subs, purely because I loved the lead actors chemistry together [the lead actress eventually left so I stopped watching] coincidentally the actress of Geet was one of the side character on that show. I didn't know/realize that Geet was being subbed on Viki. The only tv serial I know with subs is Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon (which I'm watching at the moment)
Ahh John, is you lady wife's sanity still intact? Geet is our version of a z-lister makjang. Secondly, they run for months, and at time years at an end and end up lacking the punch that k, and j dramas do.
If she still hasn't seen I would suggest, Pyar ka bandhan (separated siblings, was pretty decent while I saw it back at home, cannot speak for it's quality now), "Mahi Way" will remind you of MNIKSS, Rishta.com (matchmakers/wedding planner hijinks)
My cousin and I made fun of that drama for being so cheesy. We still got sucked into watching it, though. She was the one who introduced it to me when I went to visit my family over summer vacation. It came on regularly on tv, and she would always tune in. It was kind of self-torture. We couldn't stand it since the plot wouldn't go anywhere and some of the characters were idiots, but it was so addictive. I finally got free from it's clutches when I came back to the US and couldn't find a site to stream it for me.
I remember this one scene where the two leads(?) were stuck in the rain because the car broke down and they had to stay at an abandoned cabin(?); all of a sudden, both of them burst into song, and we had to control ourselves from literally rolling on the ground since we were watching in the hospital. :)
Happy OT! The finale of Bridal Mask is coming! Hopefuly there's a good ending... Rich Man Poor Woman was great this week. After watching bridal mask, i went on to look for Joo Won's previous dramas and now i'm addicted to the super long 58 episode drama ojagkyo brothers. I've been following 1n2d too. Season 2 is just as great.
OH, I haven't seen it yet. Are the subs out? I didn't think the last episode would be subbed until the weekend. Now I'll have to rush and check it out! Thanks!
Happy OT Dramabeensies! And Happy Three-Day Labour Day Weekend to whomever will be celebrating such an event. Just hitting and running because I have too much to do today and the power keeps going out at home and I can't type on this stupid phone no matter what. Argh.
Not much on my 'watching plate' lately because of work and real life issues. Pretty much "Five Fingers" will be my life until the end of November (especially now that the adult cast has been introduced -- YAAAAAYYY!!). Yeah, it's a rough job, but *someone* has to do it. :P
But one thing I need to say in here is... I get down on my knees in respect for the DB recappers and the way you guys push out posts so frequently! Geez, how do you guys do it? I'm having great trouble finding any sort of free time to finish my recaps and feel guilty to my readers for not getting them online in a timely fashion. I hope to catch up with everything over the long weekend... so on that note, I'm going back underground to do so.
Hope you all have a great Friday and wonderful weekend. Mata ne!
Arang is my new favorite. I'm watching Faith with one of my daughters, it's good too, but Arang gets me. Maybe because I have teenage daughters, episode 4 made me almost cry, the way it showed the unfairness of her life, cut so short.
Shin Min Ah is such a fabulous actress - I love how she can be comic and show the spunkiness and high-energy of her character, then with a change in her eyes show the vulnerability, how easily she can be hurt. She's so full of life, in character, yet in terms of plot she is teetering on the edge of complete death - and she makes this fantastical tale believable.
There are two guys who are watching Arrang with me, first time they ever watched a kdrama. They saw the first two episodes back to back with me and now are watching all of it. I asked them why this one when they would never look at any before and they said they liked sound of story so tried it with me.
They like the mystery and talked about what they think happened. I did not say much because if I am right and they are wrong I don't know if they will watch any more kdrama mysteries with me again.
Happy Friday OT peeps! At this very moment, typing and catching up with Arang, episode 5. Loving this show! Also watching TTBY, Faith (although kinda behind in watching), Panda and Hedgehog, as well as the J-drama, Rich Man, Poor Woman. Nothing too heavy in my drama rotation. Back to eating and watching. Hope all is well with everyone!
I haven't started Rich Man, Poor Woman yet. The reviews on Dramacrazy warned me to not start until there were at least 5 episodes out(there were) so I don't go crazy waiting for the next episode. How long is it supposed to be? Is it kind of like Protect the Boss (I LOVED that drama)?
J wanted to ask did anyone read the manga Gaksital is based on, and is the series based on the actual events in the manga? J have watched the Chinese version, Infernal lover, with Mike he as the main hero, it is similar with the korean Gaksital but they differ.
I watched Infernal Lover over the weekend. It's definitely the same Robin Hood-esque permise of Gaksital, but I didn't see a lot of similarities. I've never seen manga for either, but let us know if you find it!
For anyone interested in watching Infernal Lover, fyi Viki averages 70% subbed and is missing several episodes including the crucial final one. You can find the missing ones on Y/T, but they don't have subs.
Happy Friday, denizens of the OT! :D Hope you have a good weekend!
I've been seeing people discussing Rich Man Poor Woman, so decided to watch it. Finished Ep. 1 so far. Hm.
==Spoilers, maybe, kinda==
Finished Ma Boy. Still no subs, boo hoo! Good thing it's still easy to get the gist of the drama even when I'm watching it raw!
Oh, and yay, I was right about Touch playing Hyun Woo's dancer friends. They were the guys dancing in the street at the beginning of Ep. 1, which means Hyun Woo was the guy with the hankie over his face. I knew I recognized Sungyong and Kanghyun after watching the Let's Walk Together music video umpteen times. And lol the reference to the music video. :D
Currently watching: To The Beautiful You.
Mostly just watching it for the cute, because WTH is all this coming and going, Jae Hee? Also, can't help but notice Sulli has curves, which the uniform doesn't entirely disguise, although a loose t-shirt does.
Tae Joon's actions are different now compared to before, since he's more aware of proximity to Jae Hee.
Oh, and Hanna, I could do with less of your gymnastics, kthxbai.
DS have an available fansub (as opposed to their CTS versions) you will find it at their site. So far episode 1 & 2 are available and three coming soon but there is a disclaimer that it is as polished as CTS versions because the translator is a relative newbie, doing it voluntarily.
I marathoned RMPW yesterday. At first I thought it wasn't my cup of tea, but I ended up rooting wholeheartedly for Hyuga and Makoto. I couldn't stop-- now I want the next installment! >_<
Working from home in jammies today, woohoo! Currently chugging coffee and bopping in my seat to Tasty, 'Neo Na Ara' - but quietly, because the kid is still upstairs asleep. And the dog looks at me funny...
Let's see - sun is shining, cookout tomorrow with all the clan, payday was today...life's good. Still fat though. Oh well. I said good, not perfect.
New music - AM1997 introduced me to Jung Eun Ji (so damn cute, that girl) which has me kind of checking out A Pink but..yeah...with the girl groups I'm left a bit cold. In all languages, really. I prefer female soloists. Digging a bit deeper into Verbal Jint, who i'm really liking - and he partners with EVERYBODY so I'm always finding new people to check out. Brand Newjiq is it for this week, I guess...other than waiting VERY impatiently for Geu XX from GD, of course.
Watching. Oh, watching. What am I NOT watching? Um...Haeundae Lovers and May Queen. That's about it, and I'll get to them eventually.
High on the list of watching and loving: Gaksital, Arang, Answer Me 1997, Rich Man Poor Woman. Sprout didn't air this week. Liking quite a lot: Faith Enjoying enough to keep going: TTBY, Thousandth Man Just started and gonna be crack: Five Fingers
Okay chickies, gotta jet. I'll check back in because you know I gotta comment on stuff...but work assignments have changed recently and I'm trying to wrap my head around a few projects where I kinda have to hit the ground running, and this girl does NOT stumble if she can help it.
Cher, Cher, Cher - I am DYING to get caught up with you. I'll send you a DM with my email at some point today.
She is in all ways adorable, and quite the little actress. I won't even qualify it as 'for an idol'. She's doing a great job, and so is Seo In Guk. They all are, really. I have such fondness for this show, and I know I miss HALF the 'in jokes' and nostalgia bits because that's not my history, and even if I lived in Korea I was in my mid-30s in 1997. If I'm this nuts about the quality of this show, what must it be like for Korean viewers? I guess it's like That '70s Show, maybe? Because that show...man. I was a teen in the 70s. I had some of those exact shirts or pants, I listened to that music...we had some of that furniture. I know the WALLPAPER, you know what I mean? It's gotta be like that.
CHEAP TRICK!!!!!! My other obsession!!! It's been a running joke with anyone born in the Chicago Area that as soon as you're born, you're issued a Cheap Trick, Styx and REO Speedwagon album before you leave the hospital. :P
I've attended 107 shows since 1976 (with my 100th in Japan at the 30th Anniversary of their Budokan show in 2008). Several of my friends will be at that show too, so you're in good company. :)
Have fun and tell the boys that 'Apple Girl' says howdy -- I'll see them again in LA later this year!!
Good Morning JoAnne! I'm loving AM1977 and Jung Eun Ji also. I wish I did know more of the music references, but I just try to relate to how it was back int he day for me!
Love Shin So Yool, too. Her character can be annoying, but there's something about her cute little pout....and who didn't know a couple kind of like that in high school?
Loved Episode 11 + can't wait for the next one. But one question - did anyone think it was a little out of character for the teacher to become such a slob for a bit? That kind of threw me.
Love RMPW, too. And gotta say, I really like the shorter episodes of these two shows.
I love AM 1997! It is just freakin adorable! I'm from the wrong age group and country to have lived it but some things are universal. :)
@JoAnne
We must be about the same age because I would see episodes (especially the first season) of That 70's Show, and just howl! We (at least where I grew up) were those people! :)
JoAnne,
I just had to say that I really admire you for being able to work from home - and in you PJs, too! Whenever I work from home I need to at least dress up to concentrate on the job to be done.
I have to take a shower and wash my hair but pjs or sweats are comfy. Today will be an easy day most of my project contacts are either done for the day (ex-US) or taking a vacation day (in-US) and MY list mostly includes reading study documentation so I understand the existing setup. Very low interaction level and plenty of opportunity for OT!
Happy Friday to all my fellow drama addicts. Am I the only one who keeps telling myself my drama watching schedule will get easier, but keep finding more to watch?!
By the way, I was sad to hear that Ivoire isn't moving to Minnesota, because that is where I live, and I have been seriously thinking of starting a Kdrama club, where we get together and slam down a little soju once in while. For now I am so thankful to meet you all at Dramabeans.
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1 Jlee
August 31, 2012 at 6:19 AM
Happy OT!
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leaf
September 1, 2012 at 7:33 AM
Happy OT!!!
Hope you all have a good week!!! <3<3<3
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Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:27 AM
HI LEAF!
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2 Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
August 31, 2012 at 6:20 AM
Happy OT everyone!
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 6:55 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG YOU ARE THE BEST
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
August 31, 2012 at 7:14 AM
:-)! Good morning JoAnne, I left you a message in last OT. I was the last one who wrote under your post. Don't know if you read it. Have a great day!
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 7:24 AM
I saw it but I don't think I responded :)
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Ivoire
September 2, 2012 at 1:05 AM
Oh OK! I just wanted to make sure that you saw it, that's all. Even though a response would have been nice :-)...
Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:20 AM
I am sooo sorry :-( This is supposed to be my screen name for this post. Thanks for going along with it...
oftheshore
August 31, 2012 at 7:19 AM
Hahahaha, I'm rolling under the desk laughing. Ivy, you're awesome!
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Ivoire
September 2, 2012 at 1:09 AM
"Ivy, you’re awesome!" Thanks, OTS :-)!!! I am, am I not? I am glad you got a kick out of this. I do aim to please, you know :-). I hope your weekend is going well!!!
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:22 AM
I am soooorry :-( I signed on with the wrong screen name. THIS is what I am supposed to be today...
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zgznoona
August 31, 2012 at 7:31 AM
:D :D :D Morning
I left something for you on last OT
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:32 AM
Hello ZGZ....
And I read it, thank you soooo much. I am now curious about the whole recipe. I know you told me how to make it to get that shape, but now I am curious about the taste. What are the seasonings that your mom and/or you use with the eggs? Please share with me everything you know about how to make this omelet scrumpdelicious (I am just trying to make up a word) :-)...
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Rashell
August 31, 2012 at 8:23 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh, Ivoire. It's always a great way to start the day!! :)
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kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM
haha, now I get it!!
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Ivoire
September 2, 2012 at 4:08 AM
Good, I was thinking of leaving you a long post/response to explain. I still might... I am glad you got it though :-)...
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Ivoire
September 2, 2012 at 1:14 AM
Hi Rashell,
as I told OTS, I do AIM TO PLEASE :-)!!! and it seems that I might have accomplished my goal. Well, a part of my job here is done then. (another part of my job here is to contribute very thoughtful and detailed commentaries most of the time :-))
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:25 AM
Sooorry ladies, I signed on with the wrong screen name. I am trying to keep this one for today :-)
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leaf
August 31, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Unni!!!!! You are the best <3
Hope you are having a great week!!!
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Ivoire
September 2, 2012 at 4:11 AM
Good to hear from you, My Dongsaeng! I will have to check your post to see what you said about Seoul (and maybe China) :-)...
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:18 AM
Oooops, I signed with the wrong screen name. This is what happens when one has multiple names *SMH* Hard to keep up with which one I am supposed to use :-)
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Laya
August 31, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Ahaha, happy weekend! <333
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:15 AM
Hello Laya, I am glad you caught on, I have to wear the name, if it has been given to me :-)!
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Laya
September 2, 2012 at 7:56 AM
It's a very good name! ^_^ How are you?
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 1:55 PM
It IS a very appropriate name, isn't it? Just perfect :-). It represents well my persona here on DB and in life in general.
I have been good. I spent Wed. night through Friday morning with a 2 year old, so I was exhausted when I came back home. But it was good. How are you? How was your weekend?
korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Bonjour! I had to track down the comment from last week's OT to figure out what was going on! Good to see you here, Ivorie, because I was wondering how there could be an OT without you!
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:38 AM
Bonjour KL!
I am glad to see that you caught on. This is just a little inside joke that some people on OT will get.
" Good to see you here, Ivorie, because I was wondering how there could be an OT without you!" Thank you for the compliment (I am taking this comment as one), that was kind of you...
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Maya
August 31, 2012 at 2:53 PM
LOL. That's hilarious, Iv... :D
Happy Friday btw, Iv!
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Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
September 2, 2012 at 4:45 AM
Thank you, Maya :-)! If you are given a name, you gotta wear it, you know, and wear it proudly. That's what I am trying to do here. And I am really glad people got a good chuckle out of it.
I hope you are having a great (long) weekend :-)!!!
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3 kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 6:22 AM
Happy OT, everyone!! Off to do grocery shopping now. In the meantime, can anyone tell me whether there usually is much difference between Viki and Dramafever subs? And if yes, which ones are better?
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ahjummabunny
August 31, 2012 at 6:26 AM
there is a difference but it isn't consistent. I like literal subs you get some really nice korean expressions that way, more often than not viki has them while dramafever has western colloquialisms. There are times when the Viki and dramafever subs are both barebones- I think usually after the editing on viki depending on how soon the episodes were subbed.
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kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 6:34 AM
ok, thanks ahjummabunny! I usually get Viki subs so I guess I'll stick with them then :)
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yooney
August 31, 2012 at 7:04 AM
the subs on Viki seem to be more true to the actual words spoken, rather than the gist of the meaning. (like, if you had someone translating sentence by sentence, rather than conversation by conversation) Some of the jokes are more cultural and don't translate as well and sometimes there's a play on words that involves the sound of the words, so those often don't make sense.
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ahjummabunny
August 31, 2012 at 7:27 AM
I think the most consistent subbing teams are on viki. I know about the jokes not coming over- or how someone can misunderstand who or what is being talked about when the previous sub said . . . but I think this issue is resolved for watchers when they learn more about the language and culture they're watching. One example that comes to mind of the limitations of subbing is in 1% of anything when the guy is saying something similar to "that person wants you to marry" and the girl misunderstands his meaning as his grandfather wants to marry her. The subs clearly state that the grandfather is the one anxious for the match between the two people so the girl misunderstanding doesn't make any sense at all. Subbers have a hard job. Maybe I'll join a spanish team.
Lovebug
August 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Ok I have a stupid viki related sub question. How do you watch sans commentary. Last week I was there to watch Arang and Panda/hedgehog and though they were sometimes funny I kept being distracted by reading both the subs and the commentary at the top of the screen (Which for panda/hedgehog meant a lot of fangirling over Donghae). I have watched viki videos before without the commentary, so am a little confused on why some have them and some don't...
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MeeisLee
August 31, 2012 at 2:51 PM
It's an easy fix! When you're watching a video on viki and you roll over it will your mouse, there's 4 little tabs on the far right of the video and the bar at the bottom with the video time/length, volume, and pixel setting. The option to turn off commentary is the very top little tab on the far right. It looks like a speech bubble. Just click it and it will go from white (comments are on) to gray (comments are off). Hope this helps!
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Lovebug
August 31, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Thanks so much!
Our Lady of the Methodical Response Process
August 31, 2012 at 6:58 AM
Hello Kakashi!
I have seen some differences in translations between Viki and Dramafever AND Dramabeans (which then makes me confused about which translation I should consider). Regarding Viki and Dramafever, I am not sure which one is better. I remember one of the 1st episodes of "Faith" where one spy girl was talking to one of the bad guys and Dramafever just said that they were talking in a foreign language, and didn't translate what was being said. When I went to Viki (I stopped and went and checked at Viki), they had actually translated that conversation. I decided to stay with Viki because I felt that at least there, more of the drama was translated as a whole, or at least paraphrased. I know that Viki has typing errors at times, but I can always make or know what they meant to say because of the context and because of what was said before.
I think other OTers will be able to tell you the differences better than I would. If you don't mind reading translations, and if you have the time, you can also compare the translations with "With S2 Fansubs", which link you can find at the bottom of the page of Dramabeans on the right, under "Linky." The subbers at "With S2 Fansubs" are very thorough (and slower because they take their time to be that thorough and I think it is volunteer work as well). Some here will be able to tell you more about "With S2 Fansubs" as well.
Have a great weekend!
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ck1Oz
August 31, 2012 at 7:14 AM
DF hires their subbers. Some come from WITHs2 subbers.
There can be different subbers from one episode to the next. Therefore the differences varies from series to series, episode to episode.
I am going offline to bed so someone else can expand on this.
Episode 5 of Faith- DF the King's position was subbed as "seat " instead of position when the King was talking about his position of being a King ( I am summarizing a conversation some of us had re DF vs viki subs )
Someone said there was a line somewhere " She is a tough cookie but she is ? soft dough inside" or something like that in a sageuk drama. :-)
I can tell you which subs are good provided you get the officially released subs from the Soompi threads ( some recent dramas as examples )- Kings 2Hearts, QIHM, Golden Time, Bridal Mask and Arang. Hauendae Lovers. From the other subbing team.
I was told- I could be wrong- that WITHs2 lost some subbers lately. I would be happy to be wrong as I download their softsubs as well for some series.
Hope it helps. I read these info and it's in one ear out the other.
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ck1Oz
August 31, 2012 at 7:16 AM
I forgot to mention the DSS subs.
@nonski if you're passing by you can explain :-)
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kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 10:12 AM
lol - the tough cookie / soft dough inside is cracking me up right now ...
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ahjummabunny
August 31, 2012 at 7:18 AM
withs2 used to be the hallmark of quality- well they were very respected when I was gobbling up dramas on mute. But when I started watching and learning korean I cringed at the lost words, jokes. But they are also inconsistent.
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john
August 31, 2012 at 8:08 AM
Re subs:
Recently for the Arang subs , they used the term "crackhead".
Really? Did the writers use that term or was it lost in translation?
-5 points for that.
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ck1Oz
August 31, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Crackhead?You remembered which episode I would look.That is so odd when we've been trying not to use modern terms.
The problem is that someone has been ripping viki subs before it gets edited and posted on various sites and hatdsubbed onto videos.The final subs should not have crackhead.
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 9:09 AM
oh they definitely did it - episode 3 I think? Possibly 2. I remember seeing that and thinking it was odd. I mean, clearly it's fusion but that's a LOT of fusion.
ck1Oz
August 31, 2012 at 9:22 AM
JoAnne thanks will check it out.Can't see the subs on my phone but check it tomorrow.Man I thought " what is the punk doing?" bad enough today.
john
August 31, 2012 at 9:35 AM
ck10z~
Ep 5. Dol Sue uses the term a couple of times.
I don't recall if it was on DramaFever or Viki though.
danni
August 31, 2012 at 11:46 AM
I've seen that as well, but it must have been dramafever's subs since that's the only place I watched Arang.
skelly
August 31, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Hi Kakashi;
I watch both DF and viki. I joined DF when they first opened. At the very beginning, DF bought their subbed stuff from other people, so there really wasn't much difference between them and viki. But for the past year or so, DF has been doing their own subs, and I find them frustrating at times for these reasons:
- they do not translate written material, like a note or the menu board (very important!) in Kimchi Family
- they tend to replace Korean idioms with North American idioms, which don't always fit (especially in sageuks)
- they will summarize things: I hate it when a character talks for a long time and DF gives you one sentence
- they replace common methods of address (oppa, hyung, etc.) with names, so you lose that layer of meaning.
that being said, they are getting much faster, and their site always has good quality video and I never get nasty viruses, annoying game pop-ups, or commercials (I'm a member). They keep track of what I've watched, where I left off, and what I would like to watch in the future, and the comments are fairly useful.
For a show that I really like, I'll watch both DF and viki - DF to get the comfortable viewing experience, then viki to get more words, both top and bottom (sometimes the top scroll of comments is more entertaining than the actual show...).
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ck1Oz
August 31, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Yeah literal subs are sometime more entertaining.Like for Golden Time there was a line where I think the intestines were herniating out from the incision.The viki sub was "the intestines were crawling out ". I was totally eeked out but left it as it is because it was literal.
The thing I find amusing are actually the literal translations of Korean swearing .There are some really funny lines out there
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Lovebug
August 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM
This!!!! You have captured my frustrations with DF perfectly. I especially hate it when someone gets a phone call and they show the phone but they don't say who it is. (I am always like who is it!!!!! who was it!!!)
Or when someone reads something shocking or pivotal in a letter and they don't sub it!
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kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Thanks so much for the awesome comments and the advise! You guys are awesome.
And I can't stress enough how SUPER GRATEFUL I am to all the subbers out there!!!! Of course, we non-Korean speakers wish for high quality subs, but to be honest, I would never dare complain about typos or weird words and stuff ... To be able to watch KDrama hours or a few days after they air is simply a gift and, well, priceless!
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Llamaesque
September 1, 2012 at 4:28 AM
I'm sort of obsessed with finding the "best" source of subs. (I even posted on my blog about the differences between the way a Coffee Prince scene was subbed on a variety of sources, which was link of enlightening.)
I think it's impossible to generalize, as each individual subber handles things differently, but it's definitely true that DramaFever's subs are more Western-flavored (e.g., they use people's names in the subs, not words like oppa or noona). For my money, WITH S2's subs tend to be the best—they seem to try to convey the delivery of the words, not just the meaning (e.g., dialogue isn't presented in perfect sentence form).
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4 Jessica
August 31, 2012 at 6:28 AM
Watching Arang and the Magistrate you get a sense of why “family” is so important in Korean culture, since they are the ones that will care to give you offerings of food and clothes and stuff.
Most of my Korean friends are Buddhist because I know they practice the yearly ancestor prayers. So I’m wondering, since there’s also a large Christian population, how does that influence their traditions? Do they still do ancestor rituals too?
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ahjummabunny
August 31, 2012 at 6:40 AM
I've seen it portrayed 2 ways in dramas- the families that don't because they're christian- and the families that have one parent form each religion and they do the rituals. The christian parent is usually catholic which I find very strange.
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InSu
August 31, 2012 at 9:30 AM
The original culture is hard to erase, like USAers who was their hair according to eh phase of the moon. Like Christians who are afraid of ghost. Like Koreans misogynist society. Old ways and beliefs persist and you have a weird composite. Cheju/Jedu island has different old religeon thus it's a composites with Confucius and Jesus beliefs.
It's like Easter Eggs/Bunny. Decades of atheist Communist rule couldn't erase their 'Easter' ritual of boys getting drunk and getting eggs thrown at them. When a boy catches a girl, he puts her over his knees, pulls up her skirt and spanks her. Spring fertility rite = USA's Easter bunny & egg. A composite
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InSu
August 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM
ooops! TYPO: should be "WASH their hair" not 'was their hair"
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skelly
August 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Wash their hair according to the phase of the moon? I have never heard of that (and I have spent all 50+ years in Michigan or California) - how have I missed out? Is it an East Coast thang? (It does sound very California, though - are auras involved?)
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM
new info here too (east coast)
korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Wow, I wondered about that, too, and I'm an east coaster born and raised! Maybe it was an old wives' tale from the backwoods of the Appalachians or something, from the days when they only bathed once a month...
trixicopper
August 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM
I'm a life long West Coaster and I've never heard of that.
Lilly
August 31, 2012 at 7:37 PM
It is cut your hair with a waxing moon if you want it to grow faster and cut it with a waning moon if you want it to grow slowly.
They say that at beauty salons. I do not know where it came from originally.
mskololia
August 31, 2012 at 11:40 PM
My grandmother used to get the Old Farmer's Almanac when I was a kid....It may stem from there originally.
Mama J
September 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM
THAT I had heard of - but forgot!
CaroleMcDonnell
August 31, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Have never ever ever ever heard of USA folks washing their hair according to the phase of the moon. The US is made up of so many cultures...it's hard to think of all of us US folks generally sharing one tradition. Christians being afraid of ghosts? Not sure about that one either. Some Christians believe in ghosts and believe a command in Jesus name will dispel them. Some Christians don't believe in ghosts. Some Christians believe ghosts are demons. Some Christians don't believe in the supernatural. Generally speaking, in any culture, there are folks who might be afraid of ghost and folks who aren't. Japan, Korea, and the US have tons of horror movies about both good ghosts and bad ghosts.
As for ancestors, it all depends. Christianity is wide enough to include all kinds of cultural situations. Some folks honor the ancestors, some folks don't. I remember our (episcopalian) priest's wife. Naeko. Buddhist before she converted to Christianity. Born in Japan. Her family renounced her because while she honored the ancestors she simply did not believe her ancestors' salvation depended on her. And because she didn't believe that, it didn't serve to have a descendant not worshiping the ancestors. So they cut her loose. I'm thinking it probably depends on the family and how seriously Buddhist or seriously Christian they are.
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Lilly
August 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM
There is a ghost story in the bible. The name of the ghost is Samuel.
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5 john
August 31, 2012 at 6:29 AM
Yay, it's Friday!
Watching:
Arang
TTBY
Faith
AM1997
RMPW
various others too numerous to mention
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Kiara
August 31, 2012 at 7:31 AM
Lucky you..I can only watch Faith and Arang during the week and Romance ofThe 3 Kingdoms on lazy Sundays.
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shiku
August 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Oh you are watching Romance of the three kingdoms? Which episode are you on? I started last year didn't finish as subs were taking a long time but I want to continue.
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WishingStar
August 31, 2012 at 7:35 AM
My goodness RMPW was AMAZING! And I agree with oftheshore, the ending definitely raised my expectations about the episodes to come and the series as a whole ^_^
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korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 8:03 AM
John, how's your wife's Indian drama going?
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john
August 31, 2012 at 9:05 AM
Stopped watchuing due to lack of subs.
I will say that this particular drama, (Geet , it's on Viki ), pales in comparison to K, J, and C dramas.
I don't know if this is a good representationof Indian dramas or not.
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korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Well, I don't have time to get hooked on another country's dramas anyways, especially now that I'm hooked on RMPW thanks to your suggestion! But I do find that I drop a lot more than I used to, because I have to use my time wisely!
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john
August 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Korazy Lady~
Glad you're enjoying RMPW.
Kath
August 31, 2012 at 9:19 AM
OMG Geet ?!! Before I became a fan of Asian dramas I was/still am a die-hard Bollywood fan which led me to Indian tv serials. I honestly watched a show called Dil Mil Gaye with no subs, purely because I loved the lead actors chemistry together [the lead actress eventually left so I stopped watching] coincidentally the actress of Geet was one of the side character on that show. I didn't know/realize that Geet was being subbed on Viki. The only tv serial I know with subs is Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon (which I'm watching at the moment)
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john
August 31, 2012 at 9:51 AM
The actress that plays Geet is beautiful. She does a good job and I like her character.
The male characters are all super losers .
anklegirl
August 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Ahh John, is you lady wife's sanity still intact? Geet is our version of a z-lister makjang. Secondly, they run for months, and at time years at an end and end up lacking the punch that k, and j dramas do.
If she still hasn't seen I would suggest, Pyar ka bandhan (separated siblings, was pretty decent while I saw it back at home, cannot speak for it's quality now), "Mahi Way" will remind you of MNIKSS, Rishta.com (matchmakers/wedding planner hijinks)
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~Feather~
August 31, 2012 at 5:35 PM
My cousin and I made fun of that drama for being so cheesy. We still got sucked into watching it, though. She was the one who introduced it to me when I went to visit my family over summer vacation. It came on regularly on tv, and she would always tune in. It was kind of self-torture. We couldn't stand it since the plot wouldn't go anywhere and some of the characters were idiots, but it was so addictive. I finally got free from it's clutches when I came back to the US and couldn't find a site to stream it for me.
I remember this one scene where the two leads(?) were stuck in the rain because the car broke down and they had to stay at an abandoned cabin(?); all of a sudden, both of them burst into song, and we had to control ourselves from literally rolling on the ground since we were watching in the hospital. :)
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~Feather~
August 31, 2012 at 7:03 PM
*ground laughing
Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:29 AM
Watching:
The Thousandth Man
A1997
I'm pathetic I know. What kinda drama watcher. But life when you move is insane. Headsno2 really is amazing for recapping and moving!
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6 Matilda
August 31, 2012 at 6:35 AM
Happy OT! The finale of Bridal Mask is coming! Hopefuly there's a good ending... Rich Man Poor Woman was great this week. After watching bridal mask, i went on to look for Joo Won's previous dramas and now i'm addicted to the super long 58 episode drama ojagkyo brothers. I've been following 1n2d too. Season 2 is just as great.
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oftheshore
August 31, 2012 at 7:29 AM
Rich Man Poor Woman went from really good to OMG-awesome in the last 5 or 10 minutes of the episode.
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 7:40 AM
it certainly DID
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Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:31 AM
You were telling me that I needed to watcht his. I need to get on it!
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Rashell
August 31, 2012 at 8:30 AM
OH, I haven't seen it yet. Are the subs out? I didn't think the last episode would be subbed until the weekend. Now I'll have to rush and check it out! Thanks!
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oftheshore
August 31, 2012 at 8:55 AM
Yep, it's subbed and available on D-crazy.
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leaf
August 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM
I think I will actually cry when GAKSITALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is over :(
I won't know what to do with myself....
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Maya
August 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM
Me too! I'll be a lost soul when it's over next week :(
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7 cherkell
August 31, 2012 at 6:37 AM
Happy OT Dramabeensies! And Happy Three-Day Labour Day Weekend to whomever will be celebrating such an event. Just hitting and running because I have too much to do today and the power keeps going out at home and I can't type on this stupid phone no matter what. Argh.
Not much on my 'watching plate' lately because of work and real life issues. Pretty much "Five Fingers" will be my life until the end of November (especially now that the adult cast has been introduced -- YAAAAAYYY!!). Yeah, it's a rough job, but *someone* has to do it. :P
But one thing I need to say in here is... I get down on my knees in respect for the DB recappers and the way you guys push out posts so frequently! Geez, how do you guys do it? I'm having great trouble finding any sort of free time to finish my recaps and feel guilty to my readers for not getting them online in a timely fashion. I hope to catch up with everything over the long weekend... so on that note, I'm going back underground to do so.
Hope you all have a great Friday and wonderful weekend. Mata ne!
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 6:40 AM
Saw first episode of Five Fingers - wow!
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korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 7:20 AM
I second that, Cherkell. DB recappers are awesome!
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Deeno
August 31, 2012 at 9:40 AM
I'm so glad you're recapping Five Fingers. People really ought to have a sane recapper tackle it.
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cherkell
August 31, 2012 at 3:27 PM
And girlfriend, I was gonna say an insane recapper should tackle it on as well... that's me, right? :P
At least we have all bases covered now. LET THE MAKJANG RAGE ON!! :D
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Deeno
August 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
Don't worry. You may become insane one day.
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Maya
August 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Yeay for Labor Day weekend! :)
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Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:33 AM
I know. They're ridiculous how fast they pop these QUALITY recaps out. But you're amazing too!
Off to read some recaps...
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8 Sumee
August 31, 2012 at 6:43 AM
Wow how much I love Arang &the magistrate <3
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skelly
August 31, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Arang is my new favorite. I'm watching Faith with one of my daughters, it's good too, but Arang gets me. Maybe because I have teenage daughters, episode 4 made me almost cry, the way it showed the unfairness of her life, cut so short.
Shin Min Ah is such a fabulous actress - I love how she can be comic and show the spunkiness and high-energy of her character, then with a change in her eyes show the vulnerability, how easily she can be hurt. She's so full of life, in character, yet in terms of plot she is teetering on the edge of complete death - and she makes this fantastical tale believable.
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InSu
August 31, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Ep.8. @ 2 about minutes Arang has hilarious innocent pose. Her posture and pinky sticking out. I died laffin
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InSu
August 31, 2012 at 9:42 AM
oops! TYPO; it's Ep 6, not 8
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Lilly
August 31, 2012 at 7:51 PM
There are two guys who are watching Arrang with me, first time they ever watched a kdrama. They saw the first two episodes back to back with me and now are watching all of it. I asked them why this one when they would never look at any before and they said they liked sound of story so tried it with me.
They like the mystery and talked about what they think happened. I did not say much because if I am right and they are wrong I don't know if they will watch any more kdrama mysteries with me again.
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bd
September 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM
Seems like "Joseon X-Files" and "Tree With Deep Roots" is right up their alley.
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9 kewbie
August 31, 2012 at 6:44 AM
Happy Friday OT peeps! At this very moment, typing and catching up with Arang, episode 5. Loving this show! Also watching TTBY, Faith (although kinda behind in watching), Panda and Hedgehog, as well as the J-drama, Rich Man, Poor Woman. Nothing too heavy in my drama rotation. Back to eating and watching. Hope all is well with everyone!
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~Feather~
August 31, 2012 at 7:15 PM
I haven't started Rich Man, Poor Woman yet. The reviews on Dramacrazy warned me to not start until there were at least 5 episodes out(there were) so I don't go crazy waiting for the next episode. How long is it supposed to be? Is it kind of like Protect the Boss (I LOVED that drama)?
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dramabliss
August 31, 2012 at 9:47 PM
It's supposed to be 11 episodes. We had Epi 8 last Monday, so three epis more to go of this awesome show.
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10 Ying
August 31, 2012 at 6:46 AM
J wanted to ask did anyone read the manga Gaksital is based on, and is the series based on the actual events in the manga? J have watched the Chinese version, Infernal lover, with Mike he as the main hero, it is similar with the korean Gaksital but they differ.
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shukmeister
September 2, 2012 at 5:11 PM
Ying -
I watched Infernal Lover over the weekend. It's definitely the same Robin Hood-esque permise of Gaksital, but I didn't see a lot of similarities. I've never seen manga for either, but let us know if you find it!
For anyone interested in watching Infernal Lover, fyi Viki averages 70% subbed and is missing several episodes including the crucial final one. You can find the missing ones on Y/T, but they don't have subs.
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11 Laya
August 31, 2012 at 6:50 AM
Happy Friday, denizens of the OT! :D Hope you have a good weekend!
I've been seeing people discussing Rich Man Poor Woman, so decided to watch it. Finished Ep. 1 so far. Hm.
==Spoilers, maybe, kinda==
Finished Ma Boy. Still no subs, boo hoo! Good thing it's still easy to get the gist of the drama even when I'm watching it raw!
Oh, and yay, I was right about Touch playing Hyun Woo's dancer friends. They were the guys dancing in the street at the beginning of Ep. 1, which means Hyun Woo was the guy with the hankie over his face. I knew I recognized Sungyong and Kanghyun after watching the Let's Walk Together music video umpteen times. And lol the reference to the music video. :D
Currently watching: To The Beautiful You.
Mostly just watching it for the cute, because WTH is all this coming and going, Jae Hee? Also, can't help but notice Sulli has curves, which the uniform doesn't entirely disguise, although a loose t-shirt does.
Tae Joon's actions are different now compared to before, since he's more aware of proximity to Jae Hee.
Oh, and Hanna, I could do with less of your gymnastics, kthxbai.
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john
August 31, 2012 at 6:53 AM
Finished Ma Boy. Still no subs, boo hoo!I know, pls sub soon.
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sebsob
August 31, 2012 at 7:00 AM
DS have an available fansub (as opposed to their CTS versions) you will find it at their site. So far episode 1 & 2 are available and three coming soon but there is a disclaimer that it is as polished as CTS versions because the translator is a relative newbie, doing it voluntarily.
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Laya
August 31, 2012 at 7:10 AM
Thanks, Sabah! You're a lifesaver. ^_^
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mars
August 31, 2012 at 9:09 AM
@Sabah. Do you happen to have a link handy? I'm still coming up empty when I tried to search for the Ma Boy subtitles.
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sebsob
August 31, 2012 at 10:31 AM
http://www.darksmurfsub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/5662-ma-boy-%EB%A7%88%EB%B3%B4%EC%9D%B4-fansubs/
mars
August 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Thank you! I apologize for my noobness!
sebsob
August 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM
No need to apologize. We are all brothers and sisters brought here by our love of Kdrama. Glad I could be of service.
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September 1, 2012 at 5:22 PM
Hello, just in case you haven't check Kimchidrama today, but they posted Ma boy with sub for all 3 eps :D I love it, Ma boy is so cute :D
akichan
August 31, 2012 at 7:17 AM
i'll just wait till jb recap it.
then i'll watch it if i have free time.
hopefully... :(
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akichan
August 31, 2012 at 7:19 AM
anyway, happy ot everyone
:)
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Laya
August 31, 2012 at 7:35 AM
Happy OT, akichan ^_^
Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:37 AM
I just want to say Hiiiiii. I really need to get on rmpw. like now. I keep hearing fun things!
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Laya
September 1, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Hi Raine!
I marathoned RMPW yesterday. At first I thought it wasn't my cup of tea, but I ended up rooting wholeheartedly for Hyuga and Makoto. I couldn't stop-- now I want the next installment! >_<
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12 Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 6:55 AM
Greetings My Wondrous Beans!
Working from home in jammies today, woohoo! Currently chugging coffee and bopping in my seat to Tasty, 'Neo Na Ara' - but quietly, because the kid is still upstairs asleep. And the dog looks at me funny...
Let's see - sun is shining, cookout tomorrow with all the clan, payday was today...life's good. Still fat though. Oh well. I said good, not perfect.
New music - AM1997 introduced me to Jung Eun Ji (so damn cute, that girl) which has me kind of checking out A Pink but..yeah...with the girl groups I'm left a bit cold. In all languages, really. I prefer female soloists. Digging a bit deeper into Verbal Jint, who i'm really liking - and he partners with EVERYBODY so I'm always finding new people to check out. Brand Newjiq is it for this week, I guess...other than waiting VERY impatiently for Geu XX from GD, of course.
Watching. Oh, watching. What am I NOT watching? Um...Haeundae Lovers and May Queen. That's about it, and I'll get to them eventually.
High on the list of watching and loving: Gaksital, Arang, Answer Me 1997, Rich Man Poor Woman. Sprout didn't air this week. Liking quite a lot: Faith Enjoying enough to keep going: TTBY, Thousandth Man Just started and gonna be crack: Five Fingers
Okay chickies, gotta jet. I'll check back in because you know I gotta comment on stuff...but work assignments have changed recently and I'm trying to wrap my head around a few projects where I kinda have to hit the ground running, and this girl does NOT stumble if she can help it.
Cher, Cher, Cher - I am DYING to get caught up with you. I'll send you a DM with my email at some point today.
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john
August 31, 2012 at 6:58 AM
JoAnne~
Jung Eun Ji (so damn cute, that girl)
I love her.
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 7:04 AM
She is in all ways adorable, and quite the little actress. I won't even qualify it as 'for an idol'. She's doing a great job, and so is Seo In Guk. They all are, really. I have such fondness for this show, and I know I miss HALF the 'in jokes' and nostalgia bits because that's not my history, and even if I lived in Korea I was in my mid-30s in 1997. If I'm this nuts about the quality of this show, what must it be like for Korean viewers? I guess it's like That '70s Show, maybe? Because that show...man. I was a teen in the 70s. I had some of those exact shirts or pants, I listened to that music...we had some of that furniture. I know the WALLPAPER, you know what I mean? It's gotta be like that.
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john
August 31, 2012 at 7:23 AM
AM 1997 is the show I run to watch. The cast, the writers, etc, have all done a fantastic job.
Seo In Guk is stellar as well.
Hah, I'm going to see Cheap Trick tomorrow, so that'll be my time travel back to the day experience for me.
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cherkell
August 31, 2012 at 8:06 AM
CHEAP TRICK!!!!!! My other obsession!!! It's been a running joke with anyone born in the Chicago Area that as soon as you're born, you're issued a Cheap Trick, Styx and REO Speedwagon album before you leave the hospital. :P
I've attended 107 shows since 1976 (with my 100th in Japan at the 30th Anniversary of their Budokan show in 2008). Several of my friends will be at that show too, so you're in good company. :)
Have fun and tell the boys that 'Apple Girl' says howdy -- I'll see them again in LA later this year!!
john
August 31, 2012 at 8:49 AM
cherkell~
Wow, you are a fan! It should be fun. Southern Culture On The Skids opens for them.
The first time I saw Cheap Trick was with Blue Oyster Cult and Kiss. That was approx 35 years +/- a few years ago.
korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 7:30 AM
Good Morning JoAnne! I'm loving AM1977 and Jung Eun Ji also. I wish I did know more of the music references, but I just try to relate to how it was back int he day for me!
Love Shin So Yool, too. Her character can be annoying, but there's something about her cute little pout....and who didn't know a couple kind of like that in high school?
Loved Episode 11 + can't wait for the next one. But one question - did anyone think it was a little out of character for the teacher to become such a slob for a bit? That kind of threw me.
Love RMPW, too. And gotta say, I really like the shorter episodes of these two shows.
Happy Weekend!
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trixicopper
August 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM
I love AM 1997! It is just freakin adorable! I'm from the wrong age group and country to have lived it but some things are universal. :)
@JoAnne
We must be about the same age because I would see episodes (especially the first season) of That 70's Show, and just howl! We (at least where I grew up) were those people! :)
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Mama J
September 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM
gonna be 50 Nov 1st @Trixicopper
cherkell
August 31, 2012 at 8:11 AM
Dahling, please do. My life has turned into "As The Stomach Turns" and I need to get you up to date. :)
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oftheshore
August 31, 2012 at 8:27 AM
JoAnne,
I just had to say that I really admire you for being able to work from home - and in you PJs, too! Whenever I work from home I need to at least dress up to concentrate on the job to be done.
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Mama J
August 31, 2012 at 8:43 AM
I have to take a shower and wash my hair but pjs or sweats are comfy. Today will be an easy day most of my project contacts are either done for the day (ex-US) or taking a vacation day (in-US) and MY list mostly includes reading study documentation so I understand the existing setup. Very low interaction level and plenty of opportunity for OT!
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korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 11:12 AM
That's right, it's a full moon so must be time to wash your hair :)
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skelly
August 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM
But what if this is a leap moon???
kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM
it's a blue moon. I seriously don't want to know what happens in Arang's world on a blue moon.
korazylady
August 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM
A blue moon means we USAers can wash our hair twice this month, right? Yeah!
I'm sorry, but dirty hair, which is a huge no no in my book, always reminds me of KSN in City Hall. All I kept thinking the whole time was YUK!
kakashi
August 31, 2012 at 1:50 PM
Yes, you USAers can wash your hair twice - or do you possibly need to dye it blue?! In any case, sounds like over-indulgence to me!
Raine
September 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM
Unni, we ALL know that FF was going to be your crack. That's a pure given you makjang queen you!
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13 RockPaperScissors
August 31, 2012 at 6:55 AM
Happy Friday to all my fellow drama addicts. Am I the only one who keeps telling myself my drama watching schedule will get easier, but keep finding more to watch?!
By the way, I was sad to hear that Ivoire isn't moving to Minnesota, because that is where I live, and I have been seriously thinking of starting a Kdrama club, where we get together and slam down a little soju once in while. For now I am so thankful to meet you all at Dramabeans.
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