Most of the time my life is lovely but when I have experienced discrimination from racists/sexists/homophobes; it felt unjust in exactly the same way.

Yes, all these things have different histories but when you're in the middle of experiencing it - I assure you - it all feels the same.

I dislike when people try to separate racism and homophobia since most people on earth are of colour therefore most gay people are of colour as well.
Same thing for sexism or any other prejudice that makes some humans consider it acceptable to restrict rights for other human beings.

I disagree:

Mixed-race children have been known to be confused about what "race" they are. Similarly black kids who don't identify with the stereotypical black representation (rap music, urban language, etc.) are teased for being "white" and white kids who do identify with that representation are often told they're being disingenuous. So racial confusion is very common. Sometimes black people who can "pass" for white do so in order to be able to survive in whatever environment she/he is in, and this does not mean that that person is or isn't black. It just means identity is fluid.

Also, the above response makes it sound as if the only reason racism is wrong is because people cannot choose their race, as if if we were able to choose our "races" and someone chose to be black, then discriminating against that person and hating that person would be morally and ethically right. Racism isn't wrong because "race" is genetic (it's actually as constructed as anything else); racism is wrong because hatred toward other human beings as a whole -- as opposed to individuals -- is disgusting and gross. Alternately, if a gene were found that identified pedophiles as being "born that way," would it then be morally acceptable? Your argument is not only offensive (comparing homosexuality to incest, that's one step away from comparing it to pedophilia) but fallacious.

Also, science is as constructed a system as any other: it used to be "scientifically verifiable" that black people and Jews were not people at all, but some form of animal, so I'm not sure why scientific documentation is necessary for "acceptance." (The idea of "accepting" other people is a little absurd -- how does one "accept" that another is black? a woman? and Irishman? taller than you? But that's an argument for another time.)

I don't think that it matters wether people are "born gay" or not. It is besides the point. If two people (or three or four or whatever) decide to love each other and there is no coercion or manipulation or abuse or purposeful hurt involved, (things which are very prominent in heterosexual relationships, indeed, most relationships, romantic or not), then I don't think there is anything morally degrading about it, certainly not anything to deny them the right to exist and have media representation. There are sooooooo many dramas and films about heterosexual couples -- is this one episode of a show really that much of a threat?

I think you take it too far to suggest that because love is acceptable we should accept romantic relationships between siblings. however, I'm not strictly opposed to romantic relationships between siblings. The reason it is frowned upon is also biological but I think if they contracept all should be fine.

I actually agree with you, at least about there being no gene for homosexuality. Countless examples from real life have shown me that sexuality is fluid. It can change depending on a person's experience and circumstances. Some never question their sexuality and are faithfully one way or the other from birth to death, some have thoughts but don't act on them, some people change over a lifetime. As far as I'm concerned it IS just a mindset, a feeling, much stronger in some than others. But it's still not a choice. Why would someone choose a path that might make life horrible for them, unless denying their feelings would put them in even more pain?

As a queer woman who struggled for years to accept her sexuality -- specifically, my romantic and sexual attraction to women -- largely because of people telling me it was impossible for me to have been born queer, I would have found it deeply helpful and indeed inspiring to have seen a show such as this when I was younger, something that would have supported me and told me that I was not wrong or strange or confused as, it seemed, everyone I knew was telling me. Sexuality is a complex affair; like many things, it is influenced both by society and culture and by genetics, and it can be and often is fluid. Anything that offers a light to people who have been hurt and who are, as I was, afraid of themselves is a good thing. I am very, very glad that this drama exists, and I hope very much so that it is subtitled so that I might watch it. Hooray for queer representation!

Additionally: two consenting adults engaging in consensual romantic or sexual activity on an equal standing is inherently dissimilar to incest (which frequently involves a major power imbalance), pedophilia (which is entirely unrelated to queer sexualities being as it concerns the sexual attraction to CHILDREN), bestiality (which is also unrelated to queer sexualities because it involves ANIMALS), or any of the many cruel and frankly illogical arguments people like to throw out to defend their bigotry. There is no slippery slope here. My wanting to marry a woman I love does not mean people are going to run around marrying dogs or children next. I do not want to marry a dog. Queer people don't want to have sex with children. It isn't the same thing. You cannot conflate these things; to do so is disingenuous.

I very, very strongly recommend that you do a great deal of reading on these issues, as there is much that you can learn. If nothing else, perhaps in learning you can offer greater sympathy to others.

cityhunter4ever: I agree. and as u said, since when did "love" translate to "sex" ?? who said two guys or two girls can't love each other?? it's just against nature to try to have sexual intercourse!

First off, I want to commend your professionalism when dealing with this topic.

Second, I think you're looking at this too literally. No one is ever going to condone bestiality or incest or anything like that if they're going to accept homosexuality. Those things are extremely different, and it's a bit ignorant to think that they even belong in the same category.

I think the point the writers were making in Coffee Prince and Sungkyunkwan Scandal was that you don't have to be limited to one sexuality. The hero of Coffee Prince said that it didn't matter if the heroine was a woman or an alien. The whole point is love whoever you want to love. In those shows, neither of the heroes looked at men the same way they looked at the heroine they thought was a man. They only had eyes for who they loved. "Gay" and "straight" are only labels.

Questioning one's sexuality does not lead to a decision. It leads to an epiphany. Most of the time, people don't want to be homosexual because most of society says it's wrong. They can repress their thoughts for long in life. They are allowed to be confused about what their heart wants and what their brain wants to want. If it were a decision, why would they pick a sexuality that is always under fire?

I think it is important to point out that genes are not everything, nor does the apparent absence of a "Gay Gene" automatically mean that homosexuality is not biological.

First of all, many traits are manifested from the confluence of many genes, not just one. Things like your eye color and blood type are determined by one gene that one can point to. But other traits are determined by many genes, not just the absence or presence of one. To further complicate the matter, researchers now have found that genes can be turned "on" and "off" through the external and internal environment of the body.

But let's say for the sake of argument that genes are not involved in homosexuality at all. People have put too much stock in genetics, and not enough in development. The overwhelming majority of homosexual people report feeling attraction to the same sex at extremely early ages, far before they can comprehend what "gay", or indeed, "sexuality" at all, is.

So even if the reason is not inherently "genetic", it still may have come from pre-natal, post-natal, and early childhood development, which would include physical, biological changes to the body. This would preclude a choice -- meaning that their feelings have already developed without their conscience decision. Not everything about a person is predetermined by genes -- much of it is effected by development far after the genes have been donated. For example: Two centuries ago, white Westerners in the New World were barely over 5 feet tall. But with better nutrition in the general population, the average person is now closer to six feet tall, around 5'9" for men. That has nothing to do with genetic changes and everything to do with environmental changes: better medicine, better diet. You can see the same thing happening with taller and growing populations in wealthy, growing Asian countries.

And so I take issue with the labeling of either "genetic" or "choice." Even if it is not genetic, in my mind that does not mean that homosexuality is not still biologically based and unchangeable. It is unfortunate that a gross oversimplification of the interaction of genes and environment has left the debate over homosexuality so dichotomous.

And let's face it, with all the hatred and discrimination they have to put up with, who, if actually given the choice, would ever choose to be gay? There are almost no social or economic incentives to be so: homosexuals face judgement, harassment, physical and emotional harm, and being ostracized from their closest friends and family.

CityHunter4ever...completely agree and I also stand w/ the mothers against the gay/sex agenda.

Agree~

Brilliant answer. They claim being gay is genetic and not a choice/decision they make, I have wondered how come the gay-gene advocates have not presented us with apes or monkeys,(since the scientist say these are man's closest evolutionary relatives) who are homosexual or lesbians. Please put gay monkeys or apes on display to show that this is something wired from the gene. I wish these people would stop trying to justify themselves by shoving their choices down other peoples throat. its their choice not mine therefore let them keep their choices to themselves and stop trying to force other people to become like them. it is just like a smoker puffing his cigarette smoke in the face of a non-smoker. it is downright WRONG. Keep your smoke in your own lungs. I really do sympathise with people who are afflicted with this craving because of the hate they face but since it is a choice they make, they should be able to live with the repulsion such aberration evokes. I cringe at the thought of poor innocent children whose mind are forced to accept this aberration they claim to be love.