Lie To Me: Episode 8 Open Thread
by javabeans
This episode in a nutshell (or, as I like to think of it, the weecap): Ah-jung takes care of Ki-joon when he’s sick (food-poisoned by her leftovers). She’s miffed when he doesn’t reply to her text, so Ki-joon admits that he didn’t know how to reply — if he said he was still sick, she’d worry, but if he said he was better, he was afraid she wouldn’t come to see him. Aw. He plays a joke on her by shaking her Coke behind her back, which causes it to explode, leading to a mini-food fight, pounding hearts, and an acknowledgement of their attraction. (Ah-jung: “Is this acting, or is this for real?” Ki-joon: “For real.”)
Alas, K-dramas never allow our happy couple to be happy very long before mucking up the works. Two complicators: Sang-hee and Auntie CEO. Sang-hee gets pissy to see the growing rapport between Ah-jung and Ki-joon, and tells her repeatedly that she’s misreading the situation. He tells his brother he’s really, truly over Yoon-ju and that hyung should be happy with her — his way of pushing his brother away from Ah-jung, whom he’s starting to like.
On the other hand, Auntie CEO steps in get rid of Yoon-ju, despite professing to liking her very much, because everybody in this drama thinks Sang-hee’s a poor, feeble-hearted child incapable of mature reasoning or of handling the disappointment of not getting the girl. DUDE. He may be your baby brother, but he’s still a grown-ass person. Let him deal. So Aunt calls them all together and reveals that Ki-joon and Ah-jung are secretly married. Ki-joon freaks out, chases Yoon-ju out (leaving Ah-jung behind), and reconciles with her. Phew! Boy gets around.
Ah-jung imagines the kissy reunion, is heartbroken and withdraws, blaming the lie on herself and telling the reunited couple that she’s happy for them, then bawls her heart out. And then she goes to So-ran — who has just heard that Ah-jung knows of her marital woes — and cops to the lie. Finally!
Comments: The lie is out — thank god! They’ve gotten about as much mileage out of it as can be reasonably expected, especially since the Chinese investors have now returned home. I actually think there’s a fun drama in here, but the problem is that it’s padded with so much useless filler material that the interesting stuff gets watered down and dragged out, thereby smothering what life the drama does have. (Triple-mixed-metaphor, woo!) It’s too bad that there’s so very little plot to keep the pace moving, and despite my great liking for the leads, there’s only so much dead weight that can be carried by chemistry alone.
I’m curious to see how the story changes after this — and hope that it doesn’t go off into a totally weird direction because the writer’s run out of ideas (I’m thinking I Am Legend, which turned into a different, much more tedious drama halfway through). I’m hopeful that with the lie now out in the open, we’ll finally make some narrative progress…although a part of me is nervous that it’ll just be angst city as the golden couple gets back together.
To be honest, I can’t even tell you what a relief it was to be able to watch Episodes 7 and 8 without the burden of recaps. It helps that this week’s episodes were better than last week’s, which at some points had me banging my head against my desk with frustration. But it’s also freeing to not be stuck having to recap the many boring filler scenes — the parental love triangle, the co-workers, So-ran’s tirades, which used to be fun but which are now getting tiresome, Sang-hee’s hot-and-cold angsting — because we all know that we’re basically just watching this drama for two reasons: Yoon Eun-hye and Kang Ji-hwan.
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26 pbw
May 31, 2011 at 2:05 PM
thanks for still recaping the most interesting scenes!
smoking hot that picture - I feel like really getting hot just seeing this erotic atmosphere. best dramapicture I've seen so far. heh.
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27 crazedlu
May 31, 2011 at 2:06 PM
ooh. i digs this much better. still feeling sorrow for kang ji hwan's choice in drama, but i'm dealing. pass on the yeh though.
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28 Celexa
May 31, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Did anyone else hear the sucking and smacking during the kiss or was it just my degenerate mind?
My heart was pounding stronger than thiers during the Cola Kiss! I loved it!
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mary
May 31, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Haven't watched it yet but DAYUM if you're right.
Well if you aren't, I guess it still makes sense. They look like they're eating each other in the pics. :P
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Kiara
May 31, 2011 at 5:09 PM
Not quite the suck face you are imagining or they'll have to up the rating to soft-porn.
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mary
May 31, 2011 at 6:18 PM
LMAO
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drama fever
June 2, 2011 at 2:23 AM
I DID !!! I watch behind the scene clip on Secret Garden Spoiler page and WOW !!! I am speechless. They cut out some of the sucking in the finale that air but the KISS on the behind the scene was HOT !!! Everyone should see this clip and here is the link
http://www.viki.com/channels/1565-secret-garden/posts/3422-spoilers-for-secret-garden
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29 HyoSun
May 31, 2011 at 2:08 PM
Never thought I'd ship EunHye with anybody other than JiHoon but
WOWOWOWOWOW!
Coke Kiss = best drama kiss of 2011
and their chemistry is amazing! I bet it must make their jobs easier whan they have that sizzling chemistry!
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30 satorare
May 31, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Thanks JB!!!
I'm glad u enjoy this drama..instead being burden for make the recap...u can see now..the show more entertaining n touching since u try not to analyze it......thats the main reason watching drama right?? this episode is DAEBAK..I love the Cola-Kiss..Its HOT...the LIE finaly end...now romance time...I love YEH acting...because when she cried I cried...oh Ah Jung a....fighting!!
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HyoSun
May 31, 2011 at 2:12 PM
oh lord, who didn't cry along with her?
I was sobbing my eyes out ㅠㅠ
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31 U.K.Chick
May 31, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Is it wrong that as an 18 year old I cannot stop listening to the “Lovin’ Ice Cream" song? haha. it just makes me feel so happy. Btw is that KJW's voice in the song posted by JB? Despite the boring parts I completely love this drama. Ah Kang Ji Hwan <3
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32 maria
May 31, 2011 at 2:16 PM
thanks for the open thread... i just hate it when guys cant make up their mind about liking or not liking a girl... but what can we do it's what the writer wants, hehe.. but these 2 are oozing with electrifying chemistry.... kisses are amazing, i will always crave for more.....
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33 Mickey
May 31, 2011 at 2:19 PM
Thanks JB for the Mimi recap! In only watch it for the chemistry between the two main leads, everything else is just boring fillers! I was watching ep 8 raw version and going crazy wondering what's going on! :)
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34 Lilly
May 31, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Great acting combination, yes. It works.
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35 Confused
May 31, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Yaaay!!! I just want to say THANK YOU so much for posting this weecap. This is the first time I am submitting a comment even though I follow your website religiously. I love how insightful your recaps are and I love that analysis and thought you put into it. I sometimes watch the episode while reading your recap because I want to know if you're fangirling over the same thing or what you (JB/GF) thought of a certain thing. I love this new weecap format for Lie To Me because you are right, there are so much boring stuff to wade through. But I heart YEH...she is just pure charisma and her chemistry with KJH is just pure smex.
although, am I the only one that feels that when KJH is trying to be cute (like during housewarming when he's calling everyone to the table and shakes his hips a little) that he sometimes comes across a little drag queenish? *runs and hides*...please don't kill me! I still think he looks amazing in his suits!!!
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Kiara
May 31, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Lol I saw that and laughed my head off. It was a little drag-queenish but hot damn he can move em hips.
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Celexa
May 31, 2011 at 3:06 PM
*key words* He can move those hips! ^o^
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Daniela
May 31, 2011 at 4:10 PM
YES HE CAN!. I want a dance scene with him
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Kiara
May 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM
I reserve the Argentine Tango, Samba and Rumba for me thank you.
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Confused
May 31, 2011 at 4:47 PM
LOL. Glad I was not the only one who thinks so!
and YES YES YES to the dance scene...*starts imagining and drooling*
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kdfan
June 1, 2011 at 9:58 AM
i think the director just tells all the actors and actresses in this drama to go ahead and have a good time. thats why we get all the out of whack acting like hip shaking. i personally thot the scene where Soran beat the shit out of her hubby was quite good fun hahah. it really does feel like all of them are just having fun acting in this drama.
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Angel
June 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM
Well, he DID do Rocky Horror Picture Show... plus I think a lot of KJH's acting is rooted in theater so movements are slightly more exaggerated (like how he lifts and turns his head first before turning full 95-degrees to walk a certain direction... see the scene where he meets Ah Jung at the cafe after the first near-kiss).
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36 Marie
May 31, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Thank you so much for the mini recap it was very helpful to understand what is going on.
Thank you very much appreciated.
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37 MJP
May 31, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Thank you, JB! I am off now to watch the RAW.
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38 Kfan
May 31, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Thanks for the information! I think it's great that you will do recaps of Miss ripley!
I can read the recaps for LTM at another source ^_^ but not MR so I'm glad that you'll do it!!
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39 Abbie
May 31, 2011 at 2:45 PM
HMMMMMMM. okay. I'm not sure what to make of this whole open thread thing. But I don't want javabeans and girlfriday to get overworked. So, I'll go with it.
Does anyone know where I can watch this drama online with English subs?
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Cynthia
May 31, 2011 at 2:56 PM
DramaCrazy.com
Viki.com
:)
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40 Cynthia
May 31, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Thanks for the weecap, JB! It was a good choice to drop a full recap. I actually found myself skimming over the last full recap due to all the filler nonsense Show was/is packing in.
Just watched this ep Raw - I think it kind of says a lot when someone like me who understands only a smattering of Korean could pretty much figure out what was happening. Won't be able to do that for City Hunter, Greatest/Best Love or Miss Ripley - these are where your full recaps are totally appreciated.
I've noticed that there are lots of opinion polls concerning Korean matters. Here's one for LTM: Sang Hee, younger brother extraordinaire, is a Total Dick and is getting "dickier" by the episode! Agree? Disagree?
Mr. Sweet Charming Kind & Funny has taken a turn for the worst. The sympathy bus has left for this one. (Sang Hee should hook a ride on said bus over to Romance Town. He'd fit right in.)
The Cola Kiss was a fun watch - mostly due to the agile mouth-work of our leading lady. I wonder if her leading men look forward to kissing scenes with her? She doesn't hold back (and that's a GOOD thing! Heh). :)
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41 Anh Nguyen
May 31, 2011 at 2:55 PM
not sure how the 2nd half of this drama would be. But that KOLA kiss is the hottest kiss in Kdrama, hands down!
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Lizzy
May 31, 2011 at 3:28 PM
The famous director Green Rose PD Kim Soo Ryong took over from episode 7. His specialty is the emotional drama.
He is head director from episode 7, things will change
Assistant PD of Secret Garden director Kwon Hyuk Chan was in charge for ep 1~6 cause his specialty was more on comedy, so now that it's the emotional aspect PD Kim Soo Ryong took over what a big difference, yah! T
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mikiadashiwa
May 31, 2011 at 10:42 PM
oohhhh but i think i like the comedy between them better than the angsty stuff...... cuz with comedy, there is more romance don't you think?
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J
June 3, 2011 at 6:02 PM
I'm happy that PD Kim Soo Ryung took over, because episode 8 was MUCH better. Yoon Eun Hye OWNED this episode. Kudos!
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42 Lizzy
May 31, 2011 at 2:55 PM
ahhhhhhh. ....KJ you !$#%@%^%. how could you hurt AJ (just choose her)..and you writer-nim how cruel can you be. AJ first love did no go well..grrrrrrrrrrrrr can you give the girl a break. stupid stupid writer-nim
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43 pumpkinattack
May 31, 2011 at 2:56 PM
Amen.
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44 zakuropanda
May 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM
You guys are brilliant for coming up with this idea!! Please remember to take good care of yourselves, we have no problem waiting for recaps (or weecaps as the case may be) :)
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45 stars4u
May 31, 2011 at 3:15 PM
that was quick! I thought I was running along...
I agree the reasons why I'm watching and loving this drama is because of Yoon Eun Hye and Kang Ji Hwan! They have amazing chemistry!!!
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46 Dmko01
May 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM
thank you so much JB for your great wee cap! Man, I was pouting all morning about what I was going to do without your recaps! Yeah! Happy Day ! Javabean is back!
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47 Haj
May 31, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Anyone else drawing Samsoon connections? He goes back to his ex, Lea in his lie with our main character broken. But they've already developed feelings for each other!
I'm google to guess hat it will coninue to play out like MNIKSS
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sixtyninety
May 31, 2011 at 5:07 PM
I was thinking My Girl
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Eleven11
May 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM
I'm with you. Sam Soon did it waaaay better - but that whole 'undeniable chemistry torn apart by ex-lover misplaced by cruel twist of fate' thing is unhappily familiar. Damn tragic ex-lovers.
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48 clichique
May 31, 2011 at 3:25 PM
As much as I love KJH, his character Kijoon is killing me. HE IS SUCH A FLAKE!!!
Oh my god seriously.
But so true, KJH and YEH = why I am watching this drama still.
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49 ajewell
May 31, 2011 at 3:35 PM
You feel better after dropping the recaps, and I feel better after dropping this drama. It's the circle of life!
Sadly, even my love for Kang Ji Hwan and Yoon Eun Hye couldn't keep me invested in this story... and for that, the blame lies solely with its writer. To be frank, their entire relationship felt forced and unrealistic - like it was catering to fan-service and banking on the actor's chemistry alone, rather than evolving naturally from an actual "plot" (and here, I use that term loosely).
Take Coffee Prince for example. We loved the make-out sessions there because it evolved naturally/believably from the drama's inherent conflicts - it even forced a man to examine his own sexuality, and challenge the very concept of love. THAT'S the beauty of chemistry. It's something that is earned through sufficient build-up - through the use of plot and character development.
Not through make-out sessions that have no clear function other than to show how hot a couple is together. I mean, one moment KJ's pining for his ex, the next, he's eying AJ like she's air itself, and he needs her to breathe! It's! So! Dramatic! How can we possibly take it seriously?
Even their near kiss on the bench had me nearly keeling over. All I could think was, "She JUST threw up on you - and you think the mood is right to KISS?!" They're forcing this... and it makes all the legitimate bonding moments they do share feel disingenuous *because* it's built on a false foundation.
So needless to say, no amount of kissing with cola, or going temporarily insane with lust in front of a roomful of bare acquaintances is going to make me swoon or buy into this OTP...
I. Am. Done.
And... now that I got that off my chest, I'm ready for the flames, lol.
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Daniela
May 31, 2011 at 4:30 PM
You just read my mind. I agree with every word. It feels forced.
Thats why the kisses are good but I dont feel excited about them. Its like watching a couple in the street. What you said about The Coffee Prince its true. The kiss, the one in episode 10 (yes, i know it by episode) its good but its better because all the things that are related to kiss.
Im not dropping it yet, my resistance is bigger than I thought. Plus I have Park Hoon and some funny scenes with Kang Ji-hwan
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LL
May 31, 2011 at 5:17 PM
... Yeah, I might have to rewatch Coffee Prince. (Again.)
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Eleven11
May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM
gah, me too. You guys got me all piney for it. I'm making moony cow eyes.
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bd
May 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM
Nah, you pretty much hit it exactly.
The writing/dialogue for "LTM" absolutely stinks (even worse than "Secret Garden").
I don't see the "chemistry" btwn KJH and YEH b/c who can take their characters' relationship seriously? (Same w/ HB and HJW in "SG".)
The best part, thus far, was the little bit of the relationship that we got to see btwn the 2 brothers - the rest has been a complete waste (which is a pity since there was such high hopes for this drama due to the 2 leads).
"Best Love" has everything this rom-com lacks.
Really, no point in re-capping this dreck.
Now, I really hope YEH picks her next project more wisely (yeah, loyalty's good and all that, but not when it negatively impacts one's career).
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Lizzy
May 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Its true in some ways or in so many ways. I know it is a flawed drama. But can you not over analyze..it is a drama after all. A make believe reality that should not be taken seriously. Plus, give it a chance, they change the director already. Can you at least give it a second chance? The next episodes will see flashbacks that will make us understand more about each character (character building--like what they did with 49 days). That's all ^_^
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CreamPuffs
May 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM
I don't think being logical is too much to ask of a drama. And more flashbacks? The writer can't even make the characters' actions in the present make sense; I don't think any amount of flashbacks would help develop these pitiful characters.
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Kiara
May 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM
Forgive her, she's still new. She'll probably do better on her next drama.
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bd
May 31, 2011 at 11:53 PM
That doesn't excuse the CRAPPY writing.
It's not like the premise in "Coffee Prince" or "My Princess" (nevermind "MGIAG") were believable, but the lead characters and their relationships were ibelievable and totally engaging in those rom-coms.
Plus, they were good for a lot of laughs due to the witty/fun dialogue - here, there's no romance or comedy - so that makes for a crappy rom-com.
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ajewell
June 1, 2011 at 1:32 PM
I don't think it's a case of over-analyzing; rather, it's an honest attempt to understand why something does or doesn't work.
And for me, the cons far outweighed the pros.
So no, I won't be giving this a second chance. If I couldn't get behind this OTP when they were falling in love - there's no way I'm going to enjoy watching them angst away as they're "tragically" torn apart. The fact that I made it through the first seven episodes is a testament to how much I love and respect these actors... I just can't show the same courtesy to its writer.
But, by all means, continue enjoying the show. I won't hold it against you. ;)
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Celexa
May 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM
I thought the same thing... then I realized my american point of view may find it weird, but Korean culture (or at least Kdrama culture) seems to take body functions in stride.
I don't think I've ever seen a character in a Kdrama gag while his buddy is throwing up or sitting on the potty.
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ajewell
May 31, 2011 at 10:43 PM
I don't necessarily think it's a cultural thing though - I can see those type of scenes and be unaffected, despite being American.
Then again, there's a *huge* difference between holding someone's hair back while they're throwing up, and asking someone if they wanna swap spit immediately after. And though the potty and fart jokes may run rampant in lots of k-drama's... I have yet to seen the sexy-vomitus-kiss taking the world by storm, lol.
That's gross in any language and culture.
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HanKang4ever
May 31, 2011 at 8:27 PM
@ajewell
"Even their near kiss on the bench had me nearly keeling over. All I could think was, “She JUST threw up on you – and you think the mood is right to KISS?!”
for the life of me i can't imagine why anyone would want to kiss someone who just threw up. puke smells bad, puke would definitely taste horrible.
i feel so bad for YEH.
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Ju Ina-sshi
June 1, 2011 at 6:51 AM
it should not be 'Lie To Me' it should be 'Through Up And Kiss Me'
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ajewell
June 1, 2011 at 9:10 AM
I'm sure they're saving that for the sequel. ;)
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abc
June 1, 2011 at 8:28 PM
with all the illogical kisses in this drama so far, i feel as if YEH have prostituted herself for the sake of ratings with the writer and the whole production team as her pimps.
if she wants to be taken seriously as an actress she has to choose roles that will challenge her acting ability not her kissing ability.
I love her so much in CP, i consider MFL was a step back and that she would learn a big lesson in choosing roles from that fiasco. But it seems she and whoever are managing her career didn't learn anything from her MFL experience because i see LTM as a giant leap backwards for YEH.
LTM is a total waste of her talent, but i still like her a lot so i will still wish her the best in her future projects.
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natus
June 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM
If you look at her character, this is a character that has some substance vs. the average K-drama heroine. She is smart and has a good job. She has flaws like every human being, but she is not your average heroin in distress who needs to be saved. While their relationship could be less forced, we can also argue that unlike most K-dramas, they in fact started to date and give each other a chance. By no means I'm in love with this drama, but I think that maybe she read the synopsis and character description and liked it. I don't think actors know the path that the drama is going until they already sing up for the drama.
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eca
June 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM
"If you look at her character, this is a character that has some substance vs. the average K-drama heroine. She is smart and has a good job."
Hmmm. Don't know if I should laugh or cry when I read this. Okay. I'll just disagree, period.
"She has flaws like every human being, but she is not your average heroin in distress who needs to be saved."
And what do you call what Sanghee has been doing? Just "helping" her out, huh?
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50 jyyjc
May 31, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Two things that I care about this drama:
1) kang ji hwan and yoon eun hye
2) the aunt trying to get rid of yoonjoo.
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