Lee Byung-heon speaks out
by javabeans
After the story broke about an ex-girlfriend of Lee Byung-heon accusing the star of tricking her into a sexual relationship (which Lee’s side refuted as an attempt at blackmail and extortion), Lee has now responded personally. He posted his feelings in a December 13 message on his homepage, and while he didn’t address any of the accusations directly, he called them “distorted truth” and encouraged his fans not to worry, as the truth will come out in the end.
The message reads:
This is Lee Byung-heon.
I don’t know what words to use to greet you.
It’s been a while since I last wrote. I should be writing about good news…
The company and my lawyers held me back, but I am writing because many of you are worried.
The story that has been released to the world has been distorted, and I’m not sure what stories will come out in the future, but the truth will come out in full, through the legal process.
But more importantly, what should have been left as precious, beautiful memories has been twisted and dispersed to the world. My heart is pained that the circumstances between two people who were once so dear to each other has turned into this.
Throughout my career, at times there have been instances when I could not explain a situation, and at times I have believed that keeping quiet about outright lies or stories that have been twisted was the wise choice, and that will largely continue to be how I live my life in the future. I believe that the truth that I have faith in can be felt through the heart, not through words.
Through this latest incident, I have unintentionally caused you all to worry. However, my drama has not yet finished, and it’s my duty to not cause trouble for the people working with me, so I will do my best through the end.
I am trying to not let this affect me.
I hope you will not let this affect you.
Please be strong.
I am here in my place as always, unshaken. Thank you.
Lee’s ex-girlfriend, a Ms. Kwon, had filed a civil lawsuit on December 8 with the Seoul Central District Court, asking for reparation for damages inflicted. On December 10, it was further revealed that she had accused Lee of illegal gambling.
Lee’s management responded by revealing that Lee had been the target of blackmail calls and declared their intent to countersue for defamation of character.
On December 13, Ms. Kwon’s side released photos of her with Lee Byung-heon and at his home to show that she had truly lived with him. (Pictures above and below.) Kwon stated that her reason for releasing the photographs is because of the reproach that has been directed her way after filing her suit, and she wanted to prove that she was telling the truth about her story and how she had lived with him.
Via Yonhap News, Leebyunghun.kr, DongA, My Daily
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51 ktbrods
December 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Yowza! Sadly, regardless of who is right or wrong, this isn't making anyone involved look pretty...
I have a Chinese final in 8 hours and instead of studying classifiers and grammar/syntax, I just spent 10 minutes reading the comments here.... ^o^
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52 Sharon
December 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
No matter whose version is true, I don't care. There's absolutely private matter. As a K drama fan, what I concern most is how the story in will become. I would rather spend time watching the drama than studying who's right and wrong in such personal affairs.
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53 Didi
December 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Again, that girl needs to go get a life....
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54 Chuchu
December 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM
People file lawsuits for emotional stress all the time and yes it is legal. I agree with everyone who have stated we can't really judge the situation because we really don't know all the facts. All we know is what has been released to the media. If he made promises to her and those promises were written down or as someone has stated, they planned a wedding and he backed out of the wedding...then he must pay for damages. We really don't know what happened between these two and should not pass judgement until all the facts are available. Unfortunately, I think she willl have a difficult case because: a). She's a foriegner in that country trying to sue a citizen of the country and b.) He's famous and wealthy. He's one of the representation of their Hallyu wave. I think it would be hard to take him on because of his status in Korea.
Here is the emotional stress tort. If she can prove any of the items listed under elements in the link below, she might have a case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress
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55 KT
December 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM
At first I feel sorry for Ms. Kwon, but after she posted the picture I think she is not innocent. LBH didn’t denied about their love, so why she need to prove with the picture for what? For money and destroy LBH images. I hope next is not the video. She acted liked 15 yrs been got raped and C’mon she lived in the western countries most of the teenager today go out around 16yrs and I don’t think LBH is her first love either. She acted liked LBH forced her to has sex with him, does she want to has sex him? Truth is love is not let the money in the middle. This woman is greedy asking too much. I am glad he dumped her. One year is not in the longest relationship, he is not married ok. There must be third party behind her; she can’t do this by herself. I will respect her if she sues him without ask for money, but turn out is not.
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56 Dumpling
December 13, 2009 at 10:43 PM
@54..Unfortunately, I think she willl have a difficult case because: a). She’s a foriegner in that country trying to sue a citizen of the country and b.) He’s famous and wealthy. He’s one of the representation of their Hallyu wave. I think it would be hard to take him on because of his status in Korea.
That means she is going to lose this case no matter what? Are the korean law that rigid and bias to define without a fair trial?
That is how any female will suffer and yet defending the male idol.
When they were together it took 3 mins to finish the job. Neither of them thought about money or gold or marriage or who worship which religion at that moment. Just how much chemistry did work on them to get the blast. After get up from bed only the person who is not satisfied with what he/she has got will leave the place. first and the latter will go after him/her.
So, why is everyone talking about feminist, chauvinist /chauvenist and hurling at each other for one rich and famous actor?
No matter what, LBH comes and will go. He will still be famous and rich in future too. No scratches,no impotency. Only his dreamers are still the same not moving from where they are , crying, with hope to marry this guy in your dreams. The bottom line is your dreams has shattered.
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57 Red
December 13, 2009 at 11:09 PM
First, I am happy to hear his blackmail. Since I saw his face, I had never thought he is a good guy. I pray for her to won.
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58 pencils
December 13, 2009 at 11:24 PM
another reason we (as in the world) needs to get rid of anarch laws drawn up eons ago....at least tweak it to recognise that it is one open to abuse....women these days....are DANGEROUS.
Big star or not, is it me or is it that guys can't seem to keep their damn mouth (and legs) shut so they don't go around pissing off women? Worse off, a women from a foreign land, who flew over primarily because of 1. your promises 2. you're a big star (that if she manages to cling onto is like hitting the jackpot).
What i don't understand out of this whole thing is, korea has no shortage of (good looking, smart girls) who know how to keep their mouth shut schooled in the art of how not to offend vicious netizens who will hunt you down and rip you apart...why take all the trouble to get a girl from far flung canada?
If I were a guy and a big star no less the last thing I would want is a whole lot of fuss (as this girl is slowly turning into).
I would like get the no-frills, older, no-strings-attached kinda girl from korea who knows that i'm not one to stick around....heck, i don't even stay in one place for long. one day i might be here, the next day i'll be gone flying somewhere else....so why get a girl from CANADA, FLY her to KOREA, KEEP her there only to get into knee-high shit like this?
Shouldn't it be what happens in Canada, STAYS in canada?
Can somebody explain the logic behind this?
It's like human beings kinda loose their logic and ability to think rationally when it comes to either guys, girls or everything in between....
Hell knows no fury like a women scorned....now LBH (and the guys of the word knows) HA!
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59 anne
December 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM
@Agent Darwin: oh no, i read it, i read it perfectly well~ but then again, i was just wondering how that could change my thought toward your other comments, for i do not see any relevancy in your second argument.
and Buddhism? huh? get some sense into your argument, so not worth my time
bleh~ gotta go study for final, LBH can wait
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60 tfftff
December 13, 2009 at 11:33 PM
i hate that people are trying to use her age to defend her. i am 20 and if i decided to give up everything for a relationship in hopes for marriage i'd fully understand that is was my decision. If she didn't think there was a possibility of a break up then she's an idiot and she should only be blaming herself. there is absolutely no reason for her to do this except for money/revenge.
breaking off a marriage proposal or simply dumping someone is not a crime. sure it hurts for the person still in love but honestly it's a gift to them. i would never want to be in a relationship with someone who didn't love me but stayed with me because he didn't want to hurt my feelings. ending a relationship means you have the chance to start a new one and find someone who does love you.
i have no idea the reasons for him breaking up with her but i don't think he should have to pay damages.
also just because i am female doesn't mean i'm going to stand up for someone who i believe is in the wrong just because they are the same sex. if it was a male lover of his i would still feel the same way.
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61 ar_arguably romantic
December 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM
i feel sort of bad for her- people are accusing her of being a golddigger, trying to get at such a perfect guy like LBH (who may in real life, be your average jerk). for all we know, he could have been like "nyah nyah. i'm rich and famous. you can't catch me!" and then she went berserk in order to get back at him in the only way she knew she could. but then again, we don't know the entire story and probably never will.
i agree about famous guys and girls who don't keep their mouths shut. Why do famous guys always go for the high strung and talky girls and not the mousy, but pretty schoolteachers? it's like guys like to go out of their way to make sure they get embroiled in female-related scandal. And i hope this incident will be a lesson to all famous men and to all naive girls who believe the promises famous men make.
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62 rita
December 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM
oooo...i love that wallpaper...so gorgeous and classic! It's like a 3-D skyview!! must buy that kind of wallpaper for my house next time! :)
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63 selenoliber
December 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Obviously people get heated up over these issues, but I do think accusations against both LBH and this girl are unfair at this stage. There's really no information to judge who's in the right/wrong, if there's a basis for that kind of judgment in the first place.
I do think there's a sad reality that girlfriends/boyfriends of stars who file lawsuits always get labeled as "gold-diggers" or morally bankrupt people by some form of media or by fans of the star without much basis. That doesn't mean this particular girl isn't a gold-digger but what is to say that she is? It looks like she's made some serious errors in judgment regarding her relationship and future and there are MANY reasons for why she is suing, one of which could be that she is deeply emotionally scarred in her disillusionment of someone she thought she loved. Maybe there are middle parties influencing her, maybe they had a misunderstanding about why she moved to Korea to be with him in the first place, maybe she had no idea what she wanted/was doing and is just lashing out. Maybe she wants money. All of these scenarios are possibilities and I really don't think based on what has been reported, there is any solid basis to be decrying either LBH's moral character or that girl's.
I'm not taking a side here, but I absolutely disagree with some earlier comments made about Jacky's Chan's "good" wife who embraced his cheating behaviour and forgave him vs. Tiger Wood's wife. Just b/c your wife forgives you for cheating, does not make her a "better" wife than someone who doesn't. Forgiveness is outside of a wifely duty. It is a charity that the husband does not deserve. A wife is completely in her bounds to never forgive her husband, divorce him, or publicly decry his actions. I don't know what Tiger Wood's wife has chosen to do, but as long as it's legal, it's within her bounds to do. He cheated on her. There should be some consequences. The extents of those consequences may be up for debate but I personally think it's more the media's fault than Wood's wife's fault that he's ended up where he currently is.
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64 mcjayjay
December 14, 2009 at 12:36 AM
HE WAS NOT MARRIED.
that's all i gotta say, and god how can she be so naive to just give up her life? ok he promised to marry her? how do you know he has the actual intention of marrying her? I am not defending LBH, because what he did to her wasn't right, but she is also to blame, they weren't married, she has no right to sue him like that, there was no contract written. She should have known, she should have been smart and told him to marry her before, but she wanted this, she wanted to hold on to him even though there might be a chance that she won't get married. Was she blinded by love? that's not an excuse, these days you can't just love with your heart, you also need to use your brain, no one is to be trusted.
She was too naive, and LBH was just like any other man (that's not an excuse but that's how men are), girls need to be more wise and careful about such things, im 19 and I have the common sense not to do what she did!
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65 selenoliber
December 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Sorry about the double post but I wanted to add that society tends categorize women into 2 categories. The kind hardworking, maybe not so gorgeous kinds of girls who earn their living the hard way and are independent, and the other kind of slutty girls who get through life relying on men and sleeping their way into opportunities and fortunes. Many people seem to be putting this girl into the second category, some even going as far as to tell her to "close her legs". I'm sure we can all think of examples of girls who actually live in a manner where they rely on men etc.
But who's to say Ms. Kwon is prostituting herself in this way?
All we know is that she gave up going to university, a chance on some national gymnastics team and left to be with LBH in Korea and lived with him, during the period of which, she may/ or may not have relied on him financially for things outside of a roof on her head. But that doesn't make her a slut who doesn't want to earn a living and relies on men. I think to reduce Ms. Kwon into such a stereotype is a vicious thing to do. Especially by women. Who's to say any one of us wouldn't be driven by passion or some other motivation to act similarly if we were in her shoes? People make stupid choices when it comes to relationships. I personally think she made many many stupid decisions regarding LBH, but he is a star, probably one that she admired. Maybe she wanted a fairytale ending. Maybe he promised her things he couldn't deliver. Who knows? But I don't think we can ever know what it's like to be in her shoes unless we actually experience it. Relationships are messy. It's easy to say what you should do when you're standing outside but so much more confusing when you're actually in the situation yourself.
I personally hate it when women categorize other women into the "slut" category without any thought of circumstances. It's really easy to judge someone on their mistakes but always harder to see where they're coming from.
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66 Agent Darwin
December 14, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Rossi and Anne: Like what I said it is sexual misconduct and whether one is Jacky Chan, LBH or Tiger Woods, one has to take self-responsibility for it. If the girl has not idea of true love, not to say Jacky Chan, LBH or Tiger Woods knew what it is. If they did, they would not have get into the "crime" of sexual misconduct at the first place.
Oppotunities create the thief. They have done it before, just as unlucky that they got caught this time. If they did not get caught, I believe, 99% of the men will continue to do it, unless one takes the precepts in Buddhism or the 7 deadly sins in Christinity very seriously. Otherwise, temptations are every where, and it is very easy to get distracted and lust is the hardest thing to control!!
It is my opinion on buddhism and its precepts. But if they do not practice it, that does not mean they are out of the loop. Hence, even if the law is on their sides, I believe, the divine justice will get to them eventually!! In that sense, I think my view is corresponds with both of your views.
The same applies to the girl - Ms. Kwon. If her motive is pure, then she has nothing to worry. The issue here is that she is not being rape, she agreed to the LBH's temptation. If she is not virgin Mary, neither LBH is a Buddha. Both of them will continue to reincarnate until the square off their debt!! Understand?
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67 Jae
December 14, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Hmmm.... $86k only and you're a gold digger. She could have sued for more if money is the motivation. He's way more worth than that. Like many of you mention a hallyu star.
Another scenario is those "shady" people behind her maybe are people who was asked to "house" her ie furnisher,plumber, renter(breaking the lease), gardner, electrician, chef, decorator etc...They are trying to cover losses. Plus, they need her to establish their claim.
Maybe she needed part of this money to head home set up herself for a few months to get her back on track.
Seriously not enough.
Why does LBH just settle it amicably with a contract like if Kwon sues/ask him for more then they will see it as extortion and as penalty pay him back what he paid and let court decide? They win it that way. Why scrimp over $86k?
He has people, PR, agency, and management. She has "shady" people.
Maybe arrogance on him or his people that she wont pursue and then now got slapped with a lawsuit. Who knows?
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68 pencils
December 14, 2009 at 1:02 AM
@66
I may not know anything about buddishm and the stuff that you might have been wanting to bring across, but if i remember correctly, buddishm teaches responsibility AND tolerance; but by the looks of it, THE WAY you esplained it, makes its as though a whole lot of tolerence is the way to go to smooth things over with no mention of responsibility which IMHO is not the way to go.
Reverse the who scenario around, would any (sane) guy like to know that his wife is doing the rounds, seducing young guys while he sits at home trying to guess what the heck is going on...only to find out that the wife gets to walk away without having to answer for her actions? Somebody who has decided to be tempted obviously made the concious choice to fall into temptation....everybody does, but the difference i think is, how one manages to recognise that, and not fall into it again....
I think it will be alot easier to leave god/religion, pathriarchy/feminism out of the equation and start looking instead at the simple things like human behaviour and how it can hurt another human being which in turn causes alot of problems which human kind need not deal with.
Rule of thumb, if you want to play, regardless of wether you're a guy or girl, READ the rules and know full well that you might get your butt in hot soup if things don't go as plan. Get ready some burn cream ready and the world would be a more peaceful and less-troubled place to be in.
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69 Agent Darwin
December 14, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Em...pencils: I did mention self-responsibilit twice in my above posting. Thank you for pointing out tolerance.
BTW, to be able to recognise the temptation and not to fall prey to is called Mindfulness!!
Karma is just mere cause and effect!! So, whatever goes around, comes around!! Even if LBH won the litigation and has the girl sucessfully thrown out of Korea, it doesn't mean he is the winner. The law of karma will get to him eventually.
OK, need to go for meeting now. Will be back to check this side only tonight!!
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70 bspanda
December 14, 2009 at 2:00 AM
Re: LBH and MS Kwon
Who knows what really happened? But how does breaking up with someone = lawsuit?
Was going to leave my comment just to the above, but really could not be silent....
Re: Agent Darwin @9 et al
"In contrast, look at Tiger Wood. I am actually feel rather sorry for Tiger, such a genius, but has a wife (or rather a nanny/baby sitter) who has little understanding, shallow intellectual depth and lack the power to embrace his flaw. At the same, gave willing to give him no concession at all, but with malicious intent to destroy him. I think Tiger is a broken man now, and not sure how long will take him to get back to his feet.
I find it is extremely puzzling that you feel sorry (or any sympathetic emotion) for the husband who MADE THE DECISION to cheat on his wife (and his kids), yet his wife is the one called shallow and she "should embrace his flaw?"
Excuse me? WTF?
OMG Tiger is flawed? No cannot be - he a golfing legend! (BTW this is sarcasm...)
HIS WIFE has malicious intent to destroy him??? How so? By marrying him and having his children? Very malicious indeed.
The only person with malicious intent to Tiger was/is.....Tiger himself. He knew his PR image. He knew his endorsements were based on that. Yet he made the choice. And he would be stupid not to think that it would come out.
Perhaps with the ever increasing woman out there purporting to have had an affair with Tiger you have gotten Elin (his wife) and the multiple women coming out claiming to have had an affair with Tiger confused? How is being publically humilated on an international scale by her husband's infidelity 'her' fault? Does having sporting talent really negate being a decent human being? I should think not.
I don't care if you are Tiger Woods golf genius or John/Jill Smith the publically unknown person - if you say your vows on your wedding day, you should mean it. And honor it.
"All three of them, I believe, are buddhists."
I must have missed the reports that the 3 celebrities had blamed their behaviour on their religion??? Once again @_@
@ dramalover
If you think feminism = dumb bitches, perhaps it is time to tell you it is fast approaching 2-0-1-0 not BC2010.
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71
December 14, 2009 at 2:02 AM
I think whoever is right or wrong in this story, and whoever looks bad or not are not our matters to comment on. The fact that we give this too much attention is bad because:
1. It's a matter of someone's private life. I'm sure I don't want everybody talks about me dumping my bf or looks at pictures of my house and comments on it.
2. Even insiders probably haven't yet comprehended the situation, so we outsiders do not have any sufficient information or evident to make any claim.
3. As in all the Korean dramas we've seen about stars, public curiosity causes the biggest, and most stupid troubles of all.
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72 mookie
December 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM
Agent Darwin:
bringing Jackie Chan and Tiger Woods into this convo has a prob... they r married men, whether it's known to the public (Woods) or not (JC), when u made a legally and/or religious binding vow/agreement and there r obligations to adhere to. I'm appalled u implied the qualities of a 'good' wife to obligate this level of tolerance. Whatever the wife's action...its her choice, you have no place to judge whether one is more superior than the other.
JC is more of a joke really, if you are really in the knows of the 20ish to 30ish demography in Chinese society , I doubt he's truly respected in that group. He did do a great deal of charity work and many do weigh his body of work to his 'transgressions' and judge him accordingly. His case is peculiar in that he is already an established 'world star' since the 80s, he has so much power in the industry to pull strings his way (esp in combination with his rumored ties with the organized crime world) and 'buy' himself some face value respect or honorary degrees. Take a look in YT and u'll find more vids jabbing at his hypocrisy than marveling at his body of work ( I do agree he's one true action/ kungfu star)
Whenever he speaks in public, you really can't have that high an opinion on him esp as a woman, particularly when he's denying his role as the father when his sexual misconducts resulted in a child and referring so nonchalantly as 'I made a mistake any man would've made' I honestly can't respect someone as a human being referring to his biological baby as a 'mistake'.
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73 dramalover
December 14, 2009 at 2:19 AM
@71: BUT she was asking for it. She was releasing pics and stuff all over the press. If she could just shut up and follow the lawsuit quietly then no one could say a thing about her. But she chose to expose everything to the public. I don't feel sympathy at all, and in this case, she is either a dumb bitch or an attention whore.
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74 WD
December 14, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Just wonder whether she has any parents around. How are they taking this?
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75 R
December 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM
Guys, you seriously have got to learn to stop screwing other women when you're already attached to someone.
^Referring to the Jackie and Tiger Woods case.
LBH's case however, since he IS not married yet, I guess he's free to break it off whenever he wants. The girl was naive to actually believe the SWEET NOTHINGS that Lee Byung Hun promised her prior to moving to Korea. She's dumb in that sense because she's in Uni and she has got a whole life ahead of her. And she didn't bother to think of the consequences should LBH decide to break up with her? To give up your future for a man? That's just stupid. Oh well, maybe she really was "blinded" by love (or money, lol).
If I put myself in the girl's shoes however, I would totally hate LBH. I give up everything and move to Korea to be with you and he just asks me to SCRAM? I would definitely feel hurt and betrayed but I don't think I'll go as far as filing a lawsuit.
Or maybe LBH did say some really nasty things to her prior to the break up which made her really hurt and at the same time sparked her anger......and she decided to take revenge or some sort?
To break it off nicely is FINE, but it's a different story if a guy just breaks up with you harshly. Like instead of just breaking up, he adds a whole lot of bullshit and starts to criticize you like you're nothing to him but dirt.
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76 Agent Darwin
December 14, 2009 at 3:31 AM
Sneak out from the meeting, and read this thread!! Hehe...OK, sheepishly I shall keep my mouth shut because women is a majority here!!
It seems like I am the lone voice here. Even the smart Samsooki keeps so quiet!! So, Agent Darwin will duly oblige to seal off the mouth too before becoming a target or prey of very very distress fans of LBH!! ^__________^
Am quite sure LBH and his once "beloved Ms Kwon" read this thread to fill their curiosity of what foreign fans views!! So, please carry on your discussions....
Relax ladies, the world just lost a great Tiger, so at least be kind to a peaceful and loving guinea pig, OK?
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77 tinyviolin
December 14, 2009 at 4:23 AM
Holy crap.
I can't believe the amount of venom that's being flung around in this thread.
It's no surprise that the word "feminist" is being used as a perjorative, everyone from BDSM slaves to Gwen Stefani deny feminism as if it were a nasty contagion. Gwen Stefani, true story.
I always think these people never think far enough about what feminism means. As Anon (I think) pointed out, if you're a woman today and you enjoy your choices, you're a feminist. Being a feminist is kind of inescapable these days. Maybe you should revoke your voting rights and your independence, then you can be free of the "feminism virus". ^^
Oh, wait, I mentioned BDSM, right? Well...I guess I've always assumed that feminism was the ability to become who you wanted, without anyone denying it to you because of some arbitrary like genitals. Want to be a housewife? Go ahead! Want to....well, yeah, ok, go ahead....Yay! ...
There's been a lot of success equating feminists with crazy, uptight, hysterical bitches. Maybe, instead of falling for that image, you should think about why that is so.
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Anyway, I agree there are two sides to the story. I get that it's unfair to use her age as an excuse--both to bash LBH and explain away any negativity in her actions.
But, I also think you don't know the extent of your own naivete until, well, you fall in love. Think about a star you admire, then picture meeting him and discovering he has all the qualities you love in a man...unbelievably, you two hit it off, and suddenly you are talking about marriage. Then, just as suddenly, it falls apart and you're reeling from the confusion and hurt. He's older, which has a whole slew of other factors involved, and he's rich...and wildly famous. The scale is so far tipped in his favor you feel like a mere bug squished under his designer loafers. You're really nothing. Then some shady goblin whispers in your ear and...Suddenly you're "that girl".
I don't know LBH's character. When I said he couldn't handle a woman his own age, that wasn't because I had a personal conversation with him about it. Maybe he's not looking for an unequal, easily infatuated partner when he goes for younger women. Maybe he genuinely liked this woman but her dependence on him, her love of pogs, the pressure to get engaged now, cooled his interest. That's perfectly reasonable. I'd feel the same way. I'm sure he's stressed out, and he's got his own story from this, too.
Maybe this woman really fails as a person and LBH was lucky to figure it out early.
But, no one here is angry with her about that, because no one here knows her. What infuriates some people in this thread, is that she didn't just shut up and feel grateful for what she got. She's a whoreslut golddigger little bitch who deserves to be humiliated for suing LBH.
And I'm a filthy feminist for slowing down and going "wait, whaa...?"
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78 Agent Conon
December 14, 2009 at 4:43 AM
One agent has retired( temporarily). I'm not LBH fan neither I know of the girl. The girl is also a newbie just popped up out of the blues. LBH is 40 yrs old, a seasoned actor with tons of experience on and off screen for so many years with women. It is very strange that he fell for a 22 yr old girl that was acquainted on foreign land in such a short time and brought her to his house stayed with the family as if he has known her for god knows years.
In his open letter to fans he talked about " what should be retained as good memories. Also, no matter what is the cause, that "two persons who once felt important to each other" etc etc.. the way he talked is like they have been in love for a long time, broke up and he's painful. This one doesn't make sense at all as he had known her in a shortest period like merely 8 to 10 months and yet referring like "good memories/once felt important to each other". Is he still confused with this girl to Ms Song? Strange .. very strange. IMO, something is not right for a person like LBH to say such things.
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79 nell123
December 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM
@73 dramalover:
Was she really? All we know is that she filed a lawsuit. We don't know who released the information about it to the media. And i don't see anything wrong with the picture she released. It's her life and her picture .She can do anything she wants with it. She has no obligation to keep her mount shut. If she feels she is right she can use any legal means to support her claim. Doing so does not make her a bad person or make her claim any more or less valid.
The thing I don't really understand is whether or not she is related to the blackmail attempts or not. That's the only thing I can see that can undermine her claim.Did she instigated the blackmail or the men who asked LBH for money simply threatened to reveal facts from his private life to the public and she wasn't involved?
@76 Agent Darwin a.k.a. Peaceful and Loving Guinea Pig :)
Nobody's attacking you. Other posters (and me) just disagree with you. There is a difference.
Aaaaaaand... The world didn't lose a great Tiger. The Tiger was just publicly embarrassed and lost some money (probably will lose some more later along with his wife...who knows) He is still fully capable of playing golf. :)
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80 'cille
December 14, 2009 at 7:30 AM
@ #78 "something is not right for a person like LBH to say such things" - it could be a lost translation or the letter was edited with his lawyers around.
in any case, LBH is still a person that although he's a famous actor, it doesn't mean that he doesn't go through the same experiences as most everyone else. whatever relationships he begins/ends only gets magnified because it becomes front page or most searched news online.
i'm a woman, but i feel for LBH because it sounds like he genuinely felt love towards Kwon though at some point in their relationship - he found something that didn't want him to move forward with the relationship. as for Kwon, if she was hurt during their relationship - then they should have discussed the issues while they were still in that relationship. not wait months later and file a law suit.
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81 dwilliams
December 14, 2009 at 7:39 AM
@huh..how would you feel if it were you in LBH's situation, would you be feeling that way?
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82 dwilliams
December 14, 2009 at 7:43 AM
@Rossi just like you said it takes two to tango and we need to quit justifying whorish women and their ways. The majority of women knew Tiger was married and they engaged in sexual misconduct just like he did, just like this woman knew who LBH was and put all of her dreams aside to be with him, now whose fault is that. She could not have been that stupid to think LBH would just leave his career and marry her if that is the case then her case definitely needs to be dismissed.
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83 xyz
December 14, 2009 at 8:49 AM
@ 67 Jae
Hmmm…. $86k only and you’re a gold digger. She could have sued for more if money is the motivation. He’s way more worth than that. Like many of you mention a hallyu star.
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I agree Ms. Kwon must be the stupidest gold digger I've seen so far!
Now it's her words against that super star's and so many his fans'.
Can't help feeling a bit sorry for her.
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84 babyan
December 14, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Letters, words, whatever. I don't trust. The man is an actor. He's paid to act. So this could very well be just a plain act from him?
On the other hand, the girl is too naive. Girl needs to know the world more. and I wonder what really happened between them that caused her to sue him? ...I'm pretty sure there's so much more to this.
(Maybe she conceived? underwent an abortion just to save his career??? Who knows???)
That said, this is certainly drama worthy. haha...
(okay, i shouldn't be laughing at this point of time. *knocks head*)
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85 Bogoshipda
December 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Please give LBH a break...
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86 nia
December 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM
free promotion for LBH..haha~
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87 .
December 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Or maybe he got one of his scriptwriter buddies to write this note for him? Lol.
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88 dramathons
December 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Do you think Ms. Kwon is the victim here? Does she deserve compensation for the "damage" she suffered?
Take the poll!
http://eyebagsndramathons.com/2009/12/14/old-lee-byunghun-photos-with-ex-surface-the-net/
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89 dangermousie
December 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM
@77 tinyviolin "But, no one here is angry with her about that, because no one here knows her. What infuriates some people in this thread, is that she didn’t just shut up and feel grateful for what she got. She’s a whoreslut golddigger little bitch who deserves to be humiliated for suing LBH."
OK, I am a self-professed feminist and I think she's a misguided idiot at best and a gold-digger at worst. It's not because she got to date LBH and he's a good-looking rich star blahblah. I would feel exactly the same way if she dated and then sued a fat 50-yr-old ahjusshi who ran a fish shop.
Because, even if I assume everything she says is a 100% true, I still think it's beyond ridiculous to enter into consentual relationship while you are an adult with another adult and then when that relationship does not work out, sue for it. I just don't get the lawsuit at all - to me suing under these circumstances is either nutty or greedy, take your pick!
I have no idea whether LBH was Prince Charming or a disgusting dirtbag. I have no idea whether he promised her marriage and the whole universe or told her it was a quick meaningless fling. It doesn't really matter. If you, at 20, meet someone who says he'll marry you, you ditch school and move in with him of your own free will, and then he eventually dumps you - you can yell at him and complain to your friends or whatever, but suing for this is insane.
Moving to another country to shack up with a star - if you don't realize the risks that this relationship may not work out, you are dysfunctionally naive at best. Marriage promises, even the ones which go as far as an engagement ring, a caterer, and a wedding dress (none of which happened here) are not (to me) a contract you can sue under! Even if the guy walks out on the wedding day - so what? He's a scumbag, but he's not someone to sue!
So I vaccilate between emotionally unstable idiot and greedy in my opinion of this girl.
Also, I fail to see comparisons people make between LBH and Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods was a married parent - he committed adultery. Once again, not something you should sue for, but morally it's hugely different than LBH, the worst you can say about whom is that he doesn't go for women his own age and is potentially a relationship liar.
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90 Dora
December 14, 2009 at 11:20 AM
@ Mookie,
sorry off topic but this is the first time I heard about jackie chan's scandal. Would you elaborate more or send me the link pertaining to the issue?
@ agent_darwin
You are a guy who likely has cheated on your gf or wife that you gave excuses for your own behavior by thinking that wives are expected to stay with their cheated husbands. How did you confuse true love with extra marital affair? Wtf
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91 mookie
December 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM
OT:
@ Dora, the scandal happened many years ago, his illegitimate daughter is around 8 years old now, her mom just changed the kid's surname to 'Chan'. She was not included in the obituary of Jackie's Mom at her passing (normal Chinese customs called for a complete list of descendants). It's briefly mentioned in his wiki and in this article:http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-09/24/content_377571.htm
and if you can read Chinese: http://stars.zaobao.com/foreignstar/pages4/jackie070604.html
In the article, he admitted to his adulterous affair with Elaine Ng (A Miss HK Asia) He used to deny being the father, as time went on, he indirectly and scoffingly admitted to that.
My quote of 'I made the mistake that any guy would make' was a direct quote, he made that in the context of his adulterous affair(s). In the article he also said he can't be affectionate or care for the child because he said it was 'ill intent and scheming' by Elaine Ng that resulted in the pregnancy.
Frankly don't have an opinion on this scandal at all. It's simply none of my business. As long as there's no innocent child involve, these are adults. If they bring their personal disputes to court and a judge entertains it, then let the legal proceedings decide on an outcome. I honestly can care less if she's a gold digger or plain stupid or he's a dirty scumbag.
With Tiger, what I got fr it is the realization that his job is solely to launder his image for endorsements. Golfing is just a very side hobby.
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92 mookie
December 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM
a YT clip of Jackie Chan suffering fr major foot in mouth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDBDRe_9zQ
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93 Agent Darwin
December 14, 2009 at 2:14 PM
@Dora: No wife, never cheated any girls before excepting teasing some here and there, and occassionally making a few very angry on internet!! So far, so good. Leading a simple, happy and fulfilling life!! ^__________^
Om!! I am meditating!! Don't disturb me!! I suppose to keep my mouth shut!! ^_________^
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94 selenoliber
December 14, 2009 at 2:43 PM
@89 dangermousie:
I agree with a lot of what you say about how there is a logical disconnect in Ms. Kwon's actions and her decision to sue LBH, but at the same time, there's no details on why exactly she's suing. I think if the situation were indeed one where she had no guarantees, no assurances for her career etc. and out of her own free will, she chose to move to Korea w/ LBH anyway, she is liable for her own actions. However, going back to your wedding example, if a couple agree to pay for a wedding together and the hubby ditches out on her, yes, he wouldn't be liable for leaving but he would be liable for the costs b/c of a verbal contract to pay for these costs.
That is where I think many people are jumping the gun about this situation. There simply aren't enough details to tell anyone if there is a legitimate case against LBH. The problem is how legally binding those assurances made to Ms. Kwon are, and to what extent these assurances were. I'm not a lawyer but where I live, verbal contracts are also binding. If you lure someone into an action under false pretenses, that is considered fraud. They made a choice based upon false information. And really, who knows if LBH even knows what these middle parties who handled the affairs for him told Ms. Kwon? It could all be a misunderstanding. But that's for the courts to decide, if she has a legitimate case or not.
Personally, I just don't see the case as black and white as others see it. I agree w/ you that as the story as been portrayed so far, she seems to be supremely naive. However, look at the spin that has been placed on this story w/ all this involvement about middlemen and her "shady" persons who are urging her to sue. Clearly, there's a lot more lurking under the surface, so maybe we should give Ms. Kwon the benefit of the doubt before accusing her of being a slutty gold-digger.
I agree w/ tinyviolin that there are some in this thread that seem to be angry at Kwon merely b/c she made the issue public and are insinuating that if she had moral character, she would have handled the issue silently. However, who's to say she hasn't tried to handle this silently w/o much success? Why is going public somehow a morally bankrupt thing to do? In LBH's own words, if he is innocent, the truth will come out. I don't see why there should be any judgment on Kwon for going public w/ this, simply b/c it has a chance of endangering LBH's career. If he didn't do anything, it won't affect him. And if he is guilty, then it's for the fans to decide whether they will continue to support him.
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95 Agent Darwin
December 14, 2009 at 3:12 PM
@92 mooki: As I understand Jackie Chan did not even complete his primary education. Indeed, very embarassing YT clip!! :P Hahahah....am very surprise that the chinese communist party is still so much pro him that allowing him to sing the Chinese 60-year anniversary song? What a world?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PomCc_kfvdw
P.S. Just receive it from my dad today. Am sending him the you tube link that you have just posted. Am going to wait for my dad's reaction!! Hahaha....
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96 Sonam
December 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I have always been more a Jett Li fan than Jackie Chan one. There's something about JL's martial arts that's more powerful, graceful and beautiful at the same time. Also he seems more spiritual making him a true martial artiste.
@agent Darwin
To be contented is to be free. Your meditation must be really good.
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97 slim
December 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM
"My heart is pained that the circumstances between two people who were once so dear to each other has turned into this."
i think it was a good move for LBH to Hand write his letter to appear genuine..but it would be crazy for him at this point...to just put his letter out there without having his lawyer consent or read it first....so when he writes "The company and my lawyers held me back, but I am writing because many of you are worried." this whole letter comes off to me as disingenuous .
if LBH dealt with this situation wisely from the beginning...things wouldn't have gotten this messy..
I think LBH is a great actor and i like him as an actor..but that's all he is..an actor.
and since I don't know him personally it's hard to judge his character...
either way hope this stuff settles quick for the sake of both sides...
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98 oysteinsevag
December 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM
@94 selenoliber & @89 Dangermouse
I agree with you in your evaluation of what we know. The truth is we the public know very little. We do not know what was arranged. We do not know what has transpired. We really only know that a relationship existed it went bad and now there are legal, emotional, and financial implications to the actions taken by BOTH parties.
People are calling Ms. Kown a slut & golddigger, we are villifying a young lady who's only crime is wanting a resolution to a nasty situation. Is she naive-perhaps we dont know her, we don't know the circumstances of this relationship. It is not right for us uniformed bystanders to cast judgement on her and on this entire situation without knowing what went on, both behind closed doors and in front of them.
People make decisions all the time to move across countires and around the world however if she had some vocal assurances that he would provide a home/life for her in korea and he broke that contract I would agree that he is liable, espically if he or his people were the ones to enter into legally binding contracts such as: rent, utilities, etc. If when they breakup he refuses to continue providing those amenities after entering contracts saying that he would he is liable. I see that is a perfectly logical reason to sue. The truth is we just don't know. Until the court papers and full complains are filed in discovery we will not know what is going on and what the truth is. We can only hope that LBH & Ms. Kwon come to an amicable arangement before it gets to oral arguements.
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99 Agent Conon
December 14, 2009 at 6:19 PM
@93 Agent Darwin.. meditating.. for LBH or for himself.. either way...for better or for worse...
This is the first time in Agent Darwin's online history that he listens to someone's suggestion... to meditate. I hit it. ha ha..
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100 Anonymous
December 14, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Why she released the pix? Because she was infuriated by LBH's lies. She feels humiliated. His management company claimed they were lovers only from last winter to this spring. But she retorted that this July she was asked by LBH to come over to Korea and lived with him for two months before he threw her out without any reasons. Since then she was arranged to live in a cheap flat on her own. She tried to communicate with him but to no avail. He avoided all her mail and messages. She had been his lover for a year, not just some months as claimed by LBH's company.
A gold-digger? It's been confirmed that LBH's management and lawyer met her in mid-November and tried to send her off with money. She rejected because all she wanted was a face-to-face meeting with LBH. She wanted an explanation from him. A law suit claiming less than $100K from a star you say she's a gold-digger? Don't be kidding. Minus the legal cost I doubt how much she can really pocket. If money is what she wants I think she could ask for more in private.
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