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Open Thread #43

 
Fair warning: Rantiness ahead, but feel free to comment on non-ranty topics below!

Phew, for one who hadn’t intended to follow the Olympics to any close degree, I spent the early part of the week unintentionally watching almost everything (TV has been left on while I tune in and out, but inevitably I find myself watching most of the coverage). Then I got sick of wasting so much time listening to hyperbolic, jingoistic commentators blathering on about anything and everything to fill up air time and maxed out on my retarded-commentary quota.

For instance: saying that a gymnast’s last-minute injury was “like having a tear in your wedding dress before you walk down the aisle”? That is insulting to gymnasts and brides both. Oh yes, the elite gymnast who’d trained on an incredibly intense level for more than half her lifetime and was taken out of the Games at the last minute due to injury is really the same thing as a woman having a minor wardrobe mishap on her wedding day. How tragic. First off, you’re an idiot for making such a retarded comparison. Second, you’re an insulting idiot for perpetuating the stereotype that all women are frivolous, fashion-frenzied bridezillas who lose all sense of rational thought when it comes to her Day of Princessly Wedding Perfection. Some of us have never coveted a Vera Wang white dress, matchy-matchy flowers-to-cake-to-eyeshadow color coordination, or a $40,000 Big Waste of Money. Some of us are even capable of handling wedding days — or high-pressure moments — with self-control. I know! How novel! And here you thought all us women fret over a broken nail and simper over boys we like and cry when we’re frustrated.

Then we followed that bit of belittling commentary with the oh-so-clever quip following the women’s Cuba-U.S. beach volleyball match in which both teams came out sporting the same color beachwear. One team changed to alternate suits of a different color, but not without one correspondent remarking with relief over the suit change because showing up in the same outfit as another woman “is every woman’s worst nightmare.” Really? Because I have had a lot of nightmares in my life, and the color of my outfit matching the color of another woman’s outfit has never figured in any of them. Thanks for showing how thoughtful and elevated the discourse can be in women’s athletics.

Also getting on my nerves? The multiple anchors and commentators who describe the U.S. team athletes and coaches of Chinese descent as “returning home to their own country” for the Beijing Games (e.g., Shawn Johnson’s Chinese coach, the women’s volleyball coach). You know what? They’re fucking representing this country, they’ve devoted their livelihoods to furthering the sport for the U.S.’s teams, they’re contributing members of American society. So why are they all of a sudden chink-eyed foreigners “returning home”? I nearly threw my remote at my television set when one commentator essentially assured us, the American viewing public, that the U.S. volleyball coach Jenny Lang Ping (who’d formerly played for China and has since moved to the States) COULD BE TRUSTED not to compromise the U.S. team with divided loyalties to China. And what about Kevin Tan, U.S. men’s gymnast who happens to be Chinese-American. AMERICAN. Yet the commentators repeatedly had to blow smoke up their own asses about how amazing and progressive the U.S. is for having an Indian(-American), a Chinese(-American), and a Belarusian(-American) gymnast on the team.

Way to make it stunningly clear that you consider “true” Americans to be corn-fed, blue-eyed, blonde-haired white people, while the rest of us are merely The Foreign Other, no matter our citizenship or country of birth. We just happen to be benefiting from the U.S.’s benevolence and magnanimity in allowing us to live here, pay our taxes, and contribute to society, right?

Fuck you, NBC. Plz to be hiring some competent correspondents nxt time!

Suffice to say I’ve now got a heavy hand on the mute button and have switched to watching DVR-recorded broadcasts with most of the filler fast-forwarded. Because it’s stupid to give myself any aggravation over such a small thing (in my life) as the Olympics.

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Seriously, a sigh of relief from me that someone got this out.

Racist commentary aside, NBC just has bad commentators. During the men's gymnastics final, one of the Japanese members was caught smiling on camera after he did badly on a routine and the ex-gymnast commentator said something to the affect of, "I don't like it when I see a gymnast smile after not doing well. I don't like it at all." And then a female commentator was talking about how the Japanese team was taking pictures and videos of each other while they were not performing on the floor and she said, "You just don't DO that at the Olympics!" all the while while the American team would shout frat boy lines into the camera every time the camera panned over to them.

It's amazing how evident it is that these people are just so not aware of the implications of what they're saying. It makes me sad.

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well to tell the truth until now i didn't watch the Olympics until now.... why... i had my share of high blood and slpeeless nights in the last world cup... so from now i will only do sport not watching it for the sake of my heath....

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I wouldn't say ranting, more-so stating the truth.

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OMG!!!!!!! I Feel the exact same way! I too had no intention of watching as much of the Olympics as I have. My daughters and I have been up past midnight glued to the TV.
We've recently moved from Houston to the "Burbs" and and encountered the kind of racism that comes with a smile. You know the kind that declares "One of my best friends is a ......." or "My sister used to date a ........, he was a really nice guy". ARG!!! What's really more frustrating is when they're surprised that you can actually articulate you words and can speak without an accent.

Javabeans, great writing. I love your witt and frankness.
Well, better get my Mexican-American ass to work.

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That's one way to put it. HAHA. I also heard those words from the commentators as I have been steadily tuning into the olympics every morning and night. And let me tell you, at first I really didn't take any offense to it because I thought they were trying to lighten the mood in all seriousness.

To me, as an asian american, I'm not so discontented. I just firmly believe these commentators are trying their best (partially failing) to give as much background information on the coaches and team members.

When I heard the wedding dress comment, I simply laughed thinking, "How can a wedding dress tear and a broken ankle be the same?" And yet, my father thought otherwise saying, "You know, he's right!"

All in all, it's the olympics that comes every 4 years. Who says we must listen to these fine (sarcastic) commentaries. Rather, let's just focus on the games instead. It truly is a pleasure to watch when you do.

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Right on javabeans, right on. Thank you for articulating it so well, it needed to be said.

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I know javabeans, I know...The women stuff hasn't bugged me as much as the race comments. Especially the gymnastic commentary has been terrible! Amy, the comments about the Japanese gymnasts made me mad too! Last night I watched the women with the sound turned down low (in fact I was listening to korean101.com podcasts instead haha), and wow it was awesome!! Our US women were amazing under such big pressure! I love the Olympics and will be watching even if I have to hit the mute button. Thanks for your rant javabeans. I really appreciate it!

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OMG! That sounds pretty bad. The US TV station commentaries are one of the reasons I have avoided watching the Olympics. I haven't been able to stand it in the past.

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Yeah, I heard the wedding dress comment and I thought how stupid .. what an idiot.

I also heard what #1 Amy mentioned about the commentator basically saying the Japanese were unprofessional for smiling after a disappointing performance. Anyone who has ever watched a Japanese dramas/movies or read any of Donald Ritchie's essays on Japan knows that smiles can indicate more than "I am happy." in other cultures including Japan. That judgmental comment embarrassed me as an American and it wasn't the only one to do so.

When NBC's China correspondent/expert took a break during the opening ceremony when the athletes were entering the stadium, I had to listen to Bob Costas repeatedly point out how "nonsensical" it will seem to the audience the order in which the athletes were coming out. And that was after he explained
they were coming out according to how many strokes it takes to write their country's name in Chinese. He still seemed to think this made no sense... like the Chinese just thought it would be cool to do that for a change.

And don't get me started on Bob Costas' interview with Bush. Some Americans are so condescending to other cultures it is so embarrassing to me. I guess it's not just Americans either - that Spanish basketball team photo - wtf?!!!

Here's my rant on something not as important . Why can't ANYONE at NBC pronounce Beijing correctly or just closer to correct? (I'm not talking about the tones and granted the Chinese pronounce the "j" in a way which has no exact equivalent sound in English)
But people it's more like a "j" as in "just" or "jingle", not like the "s" in leisure. I hear it mispronounced a hundred times a day now from every single commentator and that plucks my nerves.

I don't know... the Olympics make me happy for the world/humanity in so many ways but they also point out how much more we need to learn about each other!

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You wouldn't believe some of the comments floating around the web. Some people are actually so ignorant to make comments like, "Shawn should have got the gold because she is the true American." What the heck is a "true American?" Being in this country for a few years has really been an eye-opening experience when it comes to race and prejudice.

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Are all commentators over the world the same? No I think only the ones from "civilized" country. I'm from France, and I was not so surprised to read your topic today. Because here it's more or less the same atitude they have. I was watching the opening ceremony and already wanted to kill the guy speaking behind the image. He couldn't get one phrase out that doesn't insinuate how bad China is: politics, human rights, ecology, even the traditional costumes. At the end, I couldn't maintain my calm any longer, had to go on their website to leave a comment. And believe me I was not the first there, nor the most angry one.
I am not saying I'm all pro-China, but hey, I don't put on the olympics to hear people talk about politics or human rights. What if we give the athletes their due attention? Also the ancient Olympics was a mean of truce during war times. Please let us enjoy the sports!

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THANK YOU SO MUCH for writing this post.
The Olympics have been driving me nuts for these past few days, and yesterday I finally gave up--- I just didn't watch them. After I looked at the All Around results for the female gymnasts on the NBC website, I decided to go to bed because I couldn't bring myself to listen to the commentators and their stupid remarks.

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I was out this week on business and like yourself Javabeans, spent more time watching the Olympics then previous planned. In any case, my conclusion after a week of watching the media and reading all sorts of ramblings here and there is that:

Olympics = Ignorant Nationalism

It's not new of course, but for the media to be that blatant?? I guess my assumption that they cater to the lowest common denominator is in fact correct.

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@ Alyssa

> To me, as an asian american, I’m not so discontented.
> I just firmly believe these commentators are trying their best
> (partially failing) to give as much background information
> on the coaches and team members.

I know a lot of people who think this way...

So imagine if the commentators talked about the black athletes that way.

For example, the flag bearer was a Sudanese immigrant. Can you imagine if the commentators said, "Even though he's from Sudan, don't worry he's on our side!"

Or about the number of black athletes competing for us, "Isn't it amazing that our country has all these African Americans to represent us? My how progressive we are."

You can bet if they said that there would be a many protests and boycotts of NBC and its sponsors.

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TOTALLY FUCKIN TRUE.

THis is a RAVE about YOUR RANT.

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Couldn't agree with you more! In face, I've been feeling and hearing the same thing and I'm getting tired of it. So after seeing your post, I think I'll do the most rational thing. Send an angry email to NBC. Toodles!

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Yikes! And I was feeling grumpy about some of the Japanese coverage! (A few commentators sound like they are broadcasting a horserace over the radio! Just too much over-hyped unnecessary information!) However, i don't think we have to deal with this level of idiocy! I find it unbelievable that they can get away with such nonsense. (I'm Canadian and I can't imagine commentators there getting away with such unprofessional drivel.)

Actually, after reading your rant I googled "NBC olympic coverage idiots." Whoo baby! You are NOT alone - there are lots of NBC olympic rants out there! Now, if only all this rant power could be harnessed into something that could kick NBCs butt! It certainly sounds like they need it!

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Why does nationalistic pride often translate into borderline xenophobia? Why does supporting your country mean saying bad things about other countries? Its this very reason why I chose not to follow the Olympics. Its understandable that coverage of the Olympics in America would be America-centric; but I dont know why this is synonymous with bashing the athletes from other nations. In fact, its the reason I choose not to watch any news broadcasts (or things in the news family) from local television - if I want any attempt at objective, informed, intelligent reporting, I wont find it there. I also find it particularly ironic that they are actually pointing out the ethnic backgrounds of some of the American athletes - do the commentators need to be reminded that America is a nation of immigrants? Should someone point out how unlikely yet admirable it is that a (Polish/Irish/Italian/German/Dutch/etc)-American commentator can be *so supportive* of the American team despite their foreign heritage? Or does this over-developed sense of Other-ness only apply when its accompanied by a racial deviation from "the norm" (said norm, as Javabeans pointed out, being the blond blue-eyed Caucasian). It takes away from everything these wonderful athletes/coaches have and will accomplish that their loyalties are even a conversation topic - I guess they are American enough to add to the medal count, but not much else. That said, I very much doubt America is the only nation that has such ridiculous Olympic coverage.

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I've been following very closely to the gymnastics and swimming competitions (because they air late at night) and I actually like listening to the commentators. Without them, I wouldn't know what was going on. I now know how the gymnastics scoring system works. I didn't catch them saying anything like what y'all are talking about up there, probably cuz my mom likes to make her own commentary while we watch.

Still, I always love your ranting!

P.S. I am SO happy the US women gymnasts beat China last night. I'm usually all for China, but they really should think about choosing ELIGIBLE athletes with more experience next time.

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Javabeans I totally agree with your rant regarding the olympic coverage! It has been making me mad too!
I have been watching all the gymnastics coverage and I hate to say this but although I was dismayed I was not shocked... During the last two summer olympics there were many tasteless comments made about Dominique Dawes being the only African American gymist, and what that said about her rare determination, given her background (As a fairly determined, although not athletically, African American I was a just a tad UPSET). The comments have always been prejudiced and often small minded.
I think the main problem with the commentators is that they feel they always have to say SOMETHING witty and given their insights I highly doubt they think before they speak; thus the end result is that thier prejudices are painfully obvious. I also think that many of the commentators are jealous of the atheletes and as a result the commentators feel the need to cut them down and belittle thier amazing athelitic accomplishments (cause honestly, even if you lose at the Olymipics you are still one of the best in the world, you have to be to compete). I think it would be better to just watch the even with no ramble in the background and then have a judge explain what the deductions were, etc. And then watch the medal ceremony minus stupid comments. But that's just my two cents.

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From what I can piece together, from other commenters and personal experience, it's not just the American media. Listening to the BBC commentary on the parade of nations during the opening ceremony, certain countries (western, pro -American) were more likely to be described in terms of their Athletic achievements, the rest were all about political troubles, and they never seemed to have something positive to say, which had me yelling STFU! at the screen by the end of it. Extremely negative bunch of people, reporters seem to be these days. They seem to have trouble finding good things to say about....well, anyone.

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You could listen to the Canadian ones over here, but they're not that much better. Day 1-4: China's got horrible weather, bla bla, our athletes will contract asthma, bla. Day 5 - now: omg we have no medals noessssss.

In fact, they cut out women's gymnastics in favour of swimming trials. WTF?

Thank goodness for mute buttons. :D

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lol

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Haha, it's a bunch of Americans on NBC anyway. Did you see any other race besides White?

That aside, it doesn't really matter to me b/c I clearly don't think I listen to what they say. I only watch the swimming, gymnastics, and beach volleyball part.

According to what you say, yes they are very unaware of what they are saying on television and because of that i find their rantings a bit annoying.

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"Haha, it’s a bunch of Americans on NBC anyway. Did you see any other race besides White?"

popcorn, that's exactly the problem. "Americans" doesn't equal "white." The non-white people they're putting down or treating condescendingly are ALSO American. It's like when Tara Lipinski won the gold over Michelle Kwan and the news headline read "American Beats Kwan." WTF?

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