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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

stroopwafel

Currently recapping: House on Wheels

Graceful Friends: There’s so much to unpack, and after having finished the most recent episode, I’m finding both Goong-chul and Jae-hoon to be incredibly disturbing. It’s a credit to everyone involved that despite being unlikeable (or downright hateful in a couple of cases), they’re so fully realized that I understand their motivations even when I don’t agree with them. We’ve almost reached the end of the show, and we’ve had a lot of truths finally uncovered, but where will everyone go from here?

Forest of Secrets 2: I really enjoyed the premiere, but it was in the second episode where things really got interesting for me. I love seeing Lee Jun-hyuk back in action and that he hasn’t changed at all, he’s still in top weasel form. I can’t wait to see just how this police-prosecution power struggle plays out, and I hope that we get lots more Shi-mok–Yeo-jin teamwork . 

Memorials: One of my favorite dramas of the year. Gu Se-ra was such a wonderful protagonist, strong, funny, flawed and passionate. I’ll miss my weekly doses of OTP cuteness. Gu Se-ra+Gong-myung = ♥

 

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Currently weecapping: Graceful Friends

House on Wheels: I don’t know how it’s possible, but watching an episode of House of Wheels feels like therapy. There is something so comforting about watching our cast of three (and guests) drive around trailering their tiny house, setting up the tarp and deck, planning their meals, sitting around outside, and generally cracking jokes every other minute. I haven’t been watching every episode, but I’ve been tuning in here and there and every time I do, I fall in love with the show all over again. I just caught the episode with Uhm Tae-gu, because after reading that recap how could I not? Actually, it was kind of painful. As someone who gets really bad second-hand embarrassment, watching Tae-gu sweat and squirm made me want to sweat and squirm, too. It’s amazing how different he is on screen while acting compared to real life! I feel like if he was given a character and script he would have crushed the episode with his skills, but give him a poncho and tell him to do some small talk with strangers and it’s a fail (albeit, an adorable one!).

 
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Flower of Evil: Drama is at the half-way point and remains so good. I am a horrible scene skipper, and I haven't even been tempted in this show. Hope it holds up through the second half where so many dramas start falling apart. Also, love the female lead character. She manages to be smart but vulnerable. That overheard conversation in ep 8 was gutwrenching.

Forest of Secrets 2: Solid foundational episodes.

Lucifer: Via Netflix, I'm watching Season 5 and enjoying quite a bit. Thought this was the last season but they've added one more.

I was thinking that without k-dramas, I'd probably be cancelling my Netflix. I watch so little other stuff on the site as more content gets pulled to other streaming sites.

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Hmm, I like your "scene skipper". Can I have your permission to start using that term instead of my tired old "queen of fast forwarding"??
Feel the same way you do about Netflix! I'm starting to watch YouTube more and more but so far refuse to pay their high price for "w/o commercial interruptions".

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Of course, use "scene skipper" to your heart's content. I wish there were more dramas that kept the filler to a minimum.

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I'm watching a Chinese drama that's airing right now which seems to be not very popular but I find it incredibly sweet - and it's only 24 episodes! No filler...

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@linda-palapala what's the new C-drama you're watching?

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Are you watching go ahead? I love it... it has its faults but it makes me feel so much.

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@csmith @noone It isn't Go Ahead. I was going to watch the drama, but read comments that towards the middle it turned into another same old love story as per usually told in Chinese modern dramas. So I checked out the latest episode aired and sure enough.
The drama I'm watching that's almost over now is "Consummation". I almost didn't even try it because the premise is a "roll your eyes" one. You know, the censors don't allow time travel, so they present it as a "video game" that virtually takes you back 10 years. But the truth is once you get into it, it's about a guy who has been in pain for 10 years due to a tragedy where he erases the memories of someone who was precious to him. It goes back to high school days (yes, we know that's been done) in the "game" and relives some of those moments to help him heal. It's slow moving so if you're looking for action you'll be disappointed. It's a murder mystery, which is yet to be solved. But it's only 24 episodes! That's a huge plus. Plus there's a sweet melancholy to it that makes it different from other modern C-dramas I've tried to watch lately. But it isn't one that catches your attention right away.

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@linda-palapala Consummation is already on my watch list, and this description makes me want to watch it more. I've been in the right mood for slow, introspective murder mystery and 24 episodes is perfection. I have a hard time with the extra long C-dramas.
ALSO, I didn't realize that time travel was banned. That seems so arbitrary to me. Do you know why? Time travel is actually one of my favorite tropes.

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@csmith I heard somewhere time travel was banned, but there sure seems to be a lot of it. I think they don't allow anything fantastical or magical, but if it can be explained by science...
don't be put off by the first couple of episodes when you realize the video game concept is lame because he just is an observer, not really playing anything. But he has a sad history, and that's what I'm a sucker for!

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@linda-palapala
Thanks for sharing. I hadn’t logged in for a few weeks so couldn’t respond before. I will add consummation to my list.
I enjoyed parts of Go ahead but some was just... the director knew how to tick the right boxes with the dads and the sibling relation. I think when they elongated the series, they went a little overboard. My interest graph started falling once the brothers after the time jump. I still watched but ...

Cdramas are ok when I want to whole time away, otherwise they feel too fluffy and long drawn.

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It’s not a me too, me three comment but I feel the same way about FoE and I got Netflix because of Kdrama’s and Netflix have recently stopped releasing ongoing shows in my region plus I’ve probably watched most and the rest, I just don’t feel like watching hence why I shared the password with some people just so my sub doesn’t go to waste.

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I had Netflix before they had many k-dramas, but I discovered k-dramas via Netflix around 2014ish when their k-drama offerings were much smaller. Netflix is not yet turning a profit and with other streaming services like Disney and Brit Box and Acorn etc popping up, I honestly don't know how they are going to make it.

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I only use Netflix for kdramas that are exclusive to Netflix because their subs are not good and haven't been decent in a decade. I can't enjoy shows knowing i'm not getting an accurate interpretation.

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What bugs me about the subtitles is Netflix doesn't show them if they're speaking in English, like, hello, I need subtitles anyway, esp for Koreans speaking English!

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Exactly!!!
I even turn subtitles on when I’m watching an English movie, so I don’t know who Netflix think they are to not add subtitles to everything 😅

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CRICKET - Rain

3rd Test and England going good.
IPL is gonna start soon too. The only good thing about it is that it provides sufficient income to players.

JAPAN -

Houskeeper Mr. Nagisa - 7.5 out of 10. That one show that makes it whole of 12 months. Best of 2020 with its cliches. Characters being child and enjoying swing. I took note of it as i don't do this enjoyable but fearsome stuff.
Episode 07 watching right now.

Busy of weekdays so only time left to be a viewer is weekend.

Hanzawa Naoki Season 2 - 7.5 out of 10 As said 2 weeks ago they are going strong with meme faces this season which makes it more a entertaining but reduces its efficiency. Still high intensity

Penshion - 6/10 - it had no story to begin with. random characters, random events, random conversations and as random was its last episode 05 and last scene. What exactly was the purpose of this one?
more like extra expenditure done to evade taxes.

Papa Ga Mo - 6/10 - Fukumoto Riko and your usual loud humour with sparkle of emotions. I don't expect from this one.

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Korea -

Stranger - Initial week aka story setup week. Theme this time is more stronger than earlier but execution is a big meh. Too many coincidental things happen for a show that seeks merit in logic and rational. will be appreciated by those who never always run around and never face both. Director literally trying to spoon feed things to the audience. New characters are your typical ones, indulging in typical soap opera acts, making those fake expressions. 1st impression can't be the accurate one but it shouldn't be this much ridiculous one too.
New players in the game, setting up the table of mahjong. In the name of common man they are fighting to gain more power. sugarcoated with words like justice, an attempt to gain upper hand on other party, while cleanly ignoring self-deficiencies. good facemasks.
New positions aka useless positions created to burn taxpayers money on incompetent bureaucracy. The only job creation scheme of the government!!?
Work is all about visiting social profiles, burning petrol and doing nothing. 1st week was just to milk the name. I hope this whole show isn't all about looting broadcaster and audience.

Divorce Family - has become a bit more interesting. Couple's secret is out.

When i was the most ridiculous - 4/10 proper trash. Heroine with noisepollution of a parent. hero-heroine in shoujo mode.
To make it effective they need a small cat. yeah yeah. For publicity you have to depend on a Cat. slow n absurd. There is nothing good to talk about it. Well, that's the best you can expect from a Korean romance.

We are not Ourselves - 4/10 - shoujo manga aka Trash. Hamabe trying to be act like an adult with that kiss scene. Seems like hamabe's agency has decided its about time she needs to change the image. Mother in laws used to threw glass of water but this is 2020's MIL she throws water from flowercup. Soap opera delight with cringe hero n heroine.

Happiness won't find you - 4/10 - Not a single interesting character, no positivity from any character, annoying characters. Idiot hero, meddlesome heroine. Trash

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Hyped drama from the writer of W - Nepal - alright
Hero-Heroine fake banter - meh, nuisance
Hero's same old sob story, muh childhood nonsense - big bleh
Hero doing hero - ok. what else?
Hero telling supeiror his muh childhood story for straight 2 minutes. Soap-Opera delight.
revenge, can't live more than six months - enough to baffle the superior. marriage with heroine for 6 months and this soap opera is a fantasy show. This is why i take i don't take kdramas overhype seriously. Emotions overpower audience's logic and this kind of outcome is presented to you. Trash show.

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Into the Ring/Memorials: This drama was delightful from beginning to end. Ja Ryong for M.V.P. For me, it was a perfect rom-com plus it had an indie vibe which I loved. Se-ra and Gong Myung are one of my favorite OTP’s ever: Supportive, communicated well, great chemistry, great kisses, friends plus lovers.

Flower of Evil: Rip my heart out, show. First, Ji Won trying to trigger Hyun Soo with her gun within reach and then Ji Won overhearing Hyun Soo saying he doesn’t love her. Ooof. I’m enjoying the trio of Moo Jin, Hyun Soo and Hae Soo.

Forest of Secrets 2: I admit off the bat that I didn’t love Season 1. It was just okay for me. Season 2 started off slow. Season 1 did too, but I was interested in the murders at least. The drowning case was random, but I’m sure there is more to it. I’m not terribly interested though, and I’m really not interested in the police vs. prosecution. I did perk up when Seo Dong-jae entered the scene in Episode 2. I love to hate him.

The Good Detective: Kang Do-chang, his sister and Eun-hye coming together as a family was nice. While I don’t like Yoon Sang mi, I do like that she’s always been honest about her motives.

Graceful Friends: Jae Hyun has been obsessed with Jung Hae for years, but both are so cold and repressed they would have been a terrible match. Not that Goong Chul and Jung Hae - the non-communicators- are a great match.

Train: Better than average OCN drama but not fond of the ending.

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Annyeong WWW peeps!! How are we?

What have I been watching lately? Let’s see…

I was in the mood for something dramatic and was hoping My Husband Might Be a Serial Killer aka Flower of Evil would do the trick. I’m not totally hooked yet, but I’m liking it so far. This is my first time seeing Lee Joon Gi; I’ve been wanting to see him in something. Up through ep 3.

I continue to take my sweet precious time watching When We Were Young 2018. It’s still lovely. Hua Biao is <3.

During the last half of It’s Okay to Not Be Okay I picked up the J-drama In Time With You/I Don’t Love You Yet as an in-between boredom/filler watch. It was okay; it served its purpose well enough. It’s your typical “best friends who are obviously perfect for each other spend the entire drama with annoying second leads until they finally come to their senses in the last hour” sort of thing. I enjoyed the dynamic of the leads, and it’s always nice to switch up the country once in a while. Japanese dramas have this distinct feel about them.
After I finished that, I watched the last episode of the original Taiwanese version because I wanted to compare the two without going through all the bs again. And why not watch more awkward transition from friends to lovers content?

I’ve also been on a bit of a mini drama kick lately. First I watched Mute which was…lame. Then I watched Everyday Loves which was also lame, but I enjoyed it slightly more.
After that it was If We Were a Season which was better written than the former two and about which I had previously heard good things, but for some reason this one didn’t do much for me either. It had all the markings of something I should like, but I just didn’t feel invested in the characters. I want to say it’s because there wasn’t enough time to develop them, but I know that’s a lie because I’ve watched shorter things in which I was much more invested. Still, it’s decent enough if you’re in the mood for a short youth drama and you’ve already watched to.Jenny and Splish Splash Love.
Next up was Wednesday 3:30 PM. Meh. The ending was funny; I’ll give it that. Just throw in that obligatory one year time skip because why not. Separations without communications cannot possibly be any shorter than one full year.
Finally, I watched Timing. All I have to say about this one is can we please, PLEASE, for the love of all things good and holy, can we maybe not confess our love in the middle of the street? Gosh. This one had something though. I can’t say it was well written, but it captured my attention and stirred my emotions more than the other ones I watched. I liked the pairing and could have watched more of them.

That is about it! I hope you all are having a good weekend!

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I have WWWY18 on my to-watch list. :)

And LOL, I've also been going down the mini drama route... I thought IF WE WERE A SEASON was good but I also wasn't as invested in the characters... I remember watching WEDNESDAY 3:30 PM and enjoying it but forgetting it immediately afterwards. That's the virtue of short dramas. No harm done if they are bland because I've only invested a bit of my time. :D

I'm currently watching BEST MISTAKE on YouTube (Season 1 and 2). Tropey but I'm in the mood for that. The comments section is hilarious because everybody (me included) ship the female lead's friend with a random bully who smiled at her once and didn't show up again.

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Yeah, mini dramas are great when you don't have the energy to invest 16 hours in a full one and just want a quick little story. You can't get mad at them if they're bad and maybe you'll even discover a little gem along the way. Or at least a fun little romp.

Lol, I may have to check out Best Mistake. That sounds fun!

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If you do only watch Season 1. Season 2 is really really bad 😆

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Ha! Noted.

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If we were a season has some nice elements but it didn’t work for me either :(

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Men are men. Five minutes into episode 13 and 2ML tells FL he loves her. Again. I stopped counting how many times he has imposed his violence on her. I need a truck of doom. What part of “No is no” does this guy find difficult to understand? He seems to get it by the end of 14 though. As for the rest, noble idiocy, funny parents, evil CEO doing evil CEO things, stupid side plots, mainly FF. See Yoon continues to be the only character that moves me. Only two episodes left. That’s the reason I haven’t quitted.

The Good Detective. Only two episodes left and still so many mysteries to be solved. We know Jong Tae killed the student, that Jung Seok killed the former policeman turned into pastor, but… who killed detective Jang? Was it Detective Nam? Well, by the images of the man burning the car, it fits better Jung Seok, but it doesn’t make sense. Is he helping Detective Nam? Why? I don’t trust Ministry Yoo but I don’t think he has the courage to kill someone all by himself. Theories, theories...

Memorials. This was a beautiful ride I would recommend any beanie who loves rom-coms, because Gong and SeRa are probably the cutest couple ever. I loved they always sorted out their problems and how deeply they care for each other, there wasn’t a bit of noble idiocy in their relation, something I really appreciate. The drama was not entirely perfect: the politics plot didn’t go anywhere really, but then… does politics in real life lead anywhere? I was glad we got Son Eun Sil back, and sad that we didn’t get a closure to Gong’s pain and his relation with his dad, but after all Chairman Jo made a choice a long time ago making politics his priority before his family, and he will pay the price forever.

Flower of Evil. I’ve only watched episode 7 (Viki’s late again with subs) and I’m totally hooked and waiting for the siblings reunion in episode 8. I also like the way JiWon is “paying back” HS by fooling him with her investigation. She’s got a little sweet psycho inside, imo.

Stranger 2. They are back! I’m so happy!!

Healer. I finished it and had so much fun, although I don’t share the enthusiasm about it as other beanies. It’s the first drama I watch in which the second part is much better than the first part. My heart belongs to Kim Mi Kyung.

I began Chief Kim / Good Manager and I wonder why I missed this one considering my devotion to both Lee Junho and Namgoong Nim. I’m having so much fun and I’m loving all the tropes and the overacting and the baddies and the goodies, the candy, the scoundrel, the office life, the chaebols and corrupted CEO’s. I’m on episode 9 now.

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Regarding "The Good Detective", I thought the show would probably delve in our ML's dad's murder as well and that will be somehow connected with the current murder mystery(like his watch was). But it's the final week and they still didnt really touch on it which makes me think they never intend to? Idk how I feel about this tho. It's definitely more common for dramas to connect them than to not..

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Yes, I agree with you. I thought the cases would be somehow connected, but they don’t seem so and I’m ok with it. Maybe the point was just for ML to understand and support Eun Hye.

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Yeah same. Now with just one week left I doubt it would be. Also needing something to feel bad about a character even though not necessary is kind of a kdrama thing lol (which always seems to work on me...)

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CHIEF KIM is one of the best office comedies ever

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I'm loving it!

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Chief Kim is a great drama.

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The secretary (poor girl!) mother continues to be the worst. If there were wee-caps here, she would be lambasted lol. Sucks that the last 2 episodes were postponed til Sep 7 (ep 15) and Sep 14 (ep 16). I believe they already shot Ep 15, and just had 16 left, but totally understand as safety comes first.

IA: Yoon continues to reel me in lol. He's such a good actor, I'm like you don't have to emote this well for this show man! His heartbreak/why he said no to HJE was so sad for me. Why did this show turn into such a revenge melodrama in the second half?? I wasn't expected a masterpiece, but the first 4 episodes were fun compared to now. Can't believe that the PD of Chief Kim is the PD of Men are Men, like ???

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I didn't know the last two episodes were postponed... OMG, this means I may never finish this drama...
And yes, now that I'm watching Chief Kim I can't understand why PD couldn't keep the comedy on. As you, I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, just a light show to have fun, but the whole evil crazy CEO plot is just stupid (it could have been valid for a couple of episodes, not 12). Also, the FL friends plot sides are not connected to the story and add nothing to it. It's like pieces of dramas together just to fill in. I would have enjoyed the whole drama with the comedy nonsense of the parents, but...

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The last two episodes got postponed b/c one of the supporting actors (small role/office co-worker of Hyun Joo) got Covid-19. Tested positive for it, and for safety reasons, it got postponed 2 weeks. Seo Sung-jong (MAM) first got it, and then other actors like Kim Won-hae and Heo Dong-won got it :( The preview for Ep 15 looked cute/fun which is what it should've been tone wise.

It confuses me too? The writer also did Painter of the Wind which I hear was very good, so this and the PD of Chief Kim plus the premise could've been fun to watch. I wanted more YHM and HJE (Who I say is good here, she isn't screeching past Ep 1 or so and she's more subtle here).

The antagonist is too much (I get it if it was a melodrama but this is a Rom-Com), it should've been a smaller story for that role imo. The FL friends could've been a nice supplement to the drama b/c I do like seeing FL being supported by them, but its very little screen time imo.

Basically a disappointment lol, been there before ha. At least unlike Good Casting (sorry but I had to lol), the pacing is slow, but there is something there that's hidden, but the writer/PD failed to deliver more on that premise. I hope the last 2 episodes are going to be fun (I saw preview for Ep 15 and it looked light like Ep 1-2 did). I'll say that YHM did a really good job in Ep 14 when we see what occurred to him (past life).

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Don’t remind me of Good Casting, please. I couldn’t finish it, not even FF. At least with this one I didn’t go for the FF until episode 12 😂😂😂😂

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@eazal LOL. Ok noted! That'll be the last time I mention the show to you ha!

OMG. Well like I told @kafiyah-bello, its so weird how this show makes us compelled to still watch/stick through LOL. As I said, the final episodes looks more light, so if they give me more cute YHM/HJE moments, I won't say it was a total bust in the end lol.

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Chief Kim was one of Junho's first dramas, he was so great in it. Namgoog Nim has just a gift for comedy and he is such a versatile actor.

Men are men: Spot on. I don't FF, but I should haha.

Good Detective: Maybe there will be a season 2. hehe

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I would watch a season 2 of TGD. I really like the characters, even the not-so-good ones.

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I love Chief Kim! I saw it on netflix and considering rewatching it.
Namgoong Min and Junho is my OTP in the show. 😂

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Chief Kim is sooooooooo good! Gol beginning to end. I would like a rewatch!

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So agree about Kim Mi Kyung! I believe she is one of the best actresses out there - she is often the best thing about a drama that she is involved in, like Heirs or Healer. I loved her part in Healer because it was unusual, she was smart and had an interesting backstory and was the rescuer more than once. To know her work ethic, she has been in 5 dramas so far this year. To see her range, watch The Master's Sun and Heirs, two dramas she did back-to-back, with characters so different you almost couldn't tell it was the same actress. OK, I'll stop fangirling now.

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I love her, whatever she does. She was the only thing that could be saved from Heirs (please, don't be so cruel as to recommend anyone to watch that drama, haha).
If I read she's in a drama, there are high chances I watch.
She's the best mum ever. I still cry if only I think about her role in Go back couple.

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I loved her to pieces in Healer, she was fun, super intelligent and super ethical (I suppose I can use that word). In Go back couple and Hy bye Mama, she made me cry and cry and cry over again. I won't watch Heirs, not even for her, but I could watch her parts in master sun, just for her.
She sooooooooo good!!!!!!

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My one and only recommendation would be:

CROSS FIRE

It's a chinese drama, centered around e-sports called Cross Fire. Why I love thos drama so much? Because this drama has it all. E-sport, youth, friendship, romance, and even mystery element. Added together, this drama provide me with the pleasure of watching the journey of two boys conquer the CF world with their own hands. Years of hard work, teamwork, and also support from all the people around them, enable them to step into CF world and reach that glory

When I'm watching this drama, one thing that stand out more than anything else is the characters. All of the characters, even the side characters, are brilliantly written. There's no character that's unneeded. Each background story of the side characters felt so real and so close to our heart. And what surprised me the most: this drama treated their female characters properly. The 3 main female characters are strong, level-headed, and even become the driving force for the male leads to be better. They're not there only for the sake of being there, but they're alive and each have their own back story that's unique

The gaming part is also amazingly done. When you watch the drama you'll know what I mean. It makes you feel like you're inside the game, which deliver a different type of viewing pleasure

The story is also relatively fast-pacing. Each arc is resolved within 2-3 eps and it's also beautifully resolved. Like I said, there's no character that's unneeded. They all have their own needs, their own agenda, and their own part in the story

The mystery part is also so well-done. Even though we all know who did it, we were made confused several times while watching, and even shocked when the revelation happened

In the end, it's a story about growing up, understand what friendship means, and about chasing our dreams. Watching this drama you'll shed many many tears, and you'll get frustrated many many times (in a good way of course), but at the end of the journey you'll feel empty because there are no more eps to watch

I highly recommend this to everyone. Please try to watch it. If you do watch it, I hope you have a wonderful time watching it like I do

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I love go go squid, love 020 and king's avatar. Will check this one.

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I loved Go Go Squid, too, although the team Batcave was completely over-the-top. It got me interested in learning more about Capture the Flag, and I wasn't surprised to learn that one of my favorite schools, Carnegie Mellon, is a perennial champion.

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BEWARE: SO umm those beanies who think they won't enjoy a frustrated beanie's brutal ranting of A POEM A DAY, please skip the comment.

So I started "A poem a day" this week (eventhough I was supposed to start watcher😅). I am on the halfway mark and umm I cannot enjoy the show as much. I find the characters tooo frustrating and they haven't gotten better. I don't understand how Lee Joon Hyuk is the main lead here when he has barely any screen time? I did enjoy the initial episodes (and hence stuck with with the show) because I thought we would eventually get to know more about the ever mysterious Ye Jae Wook but 8 epeisodes have passed and nill. That's how much we know him. We still know only that about him which everyone else does (meaning strangers in the hospital). I cannot ship him with Bo Young because I DONT KNOW HIM!!. I don't understand why the writer is not/didnot spend time developing his character further. Right now he just comes across as an annoying, obnoxious, rude doctor who loves to hand out unsolicited advice to everyone. My problem isn't his strict moral code or his inflexible personality, my problem is that I don't know what's going on in his head! The viewers need more time with him. He's tooo opaque. If I didn't know any better I would have thought he was that second lead that the female lead develops a crush on because he's handsome, cool and well mannered (kinda like how Bok Joo in weightlifting fairy develops a crush on that doctor brother only the doctor brother's character was better developed than Ye Jae Wook's is here) but eventually falls for the main lead. Don't get me wrong I do not think Shin Min Ho is better suited to be the male lead nor do I ship him with Bo Young but his character is still better developed than Ye Jae Wook's. We spend time with him and his thoughts and we can see the depths to his personality.
Bo Young with her many weird quirks (like the random crying) also comes across as a very amiable character (the second hand embarrassment here is strong tho). A character that you root for.
Even the lady doctor's character is well developed and by "developed" I'm not just talking about her backstory. Even before the reason for her divorce was revealed, I could never truly dislike her even with her "if I do it it's romance, if you do it it's adultery" thinking. The writer worked on her to give her balance.
So I do not understand why the writer hasn't as of yet spent more time on Ye Jae Wook when he's her main lead. To feel the swoon moments, to appreciate his smiles when we get them, to be awed when he buys the cotton candy for her I NEED TO HEAR HIS THOUGHTS.

Another quip I have with the show is how everyone just assumes things and jump to conclusions!! So so many times this has happened that it gets tiresome. Furthermore, I get frustrated when Bo Young goes along with those assumptions (He's taking special care of you, he must like you, he saved you from that...

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Furthermore, I get frustrated when Bo Young goes along with those assumptions (He's taking special care of you, he must like you, he saved you from that patient, he must like you, those flowers must be form that admirer of yours, he took you out for dinner, it totally was a date).

Rant over. I'm truly sorry to those beanies who really enjoyed the show for my cruel criticisms but the 3 am frustrated me really needed to write this.

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You are not obligated to confirm to someone other's feelings. If someone can't even point out their view in an open platform and someone fear what some others might think of their view, then there clearly lies fault in its inhabitants. I dropped the drama at 8th episode. writer reeks of pseudointellectualism with cliche clumsy pure heroine setup where she most of the time acts like a middle-schooler having crush on her teacher. Then to prolong the story ridiculous situations are created which in return turn every character into a loony toon. Some gonna appreciate/like the cliche, some won't. If someone can write sonnets about it, then someone else has equal write to criticize its mediocrity without any fear.

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Rant accepted. I too was a bit underwhelmed by the show but continued to watch it hoping she would end up the SML who was so sweet.
Otherwise it was just fun to watch and keep up with the beanies who were enjoying it. But it didn't do much for me.

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Adding to your rant, why was Min Ho denied a full growth arc? WHY 😱 !!!!? (I guess I am still bitter.)

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I have never dared to confess on db that I was so bored with APAD that I dropped it.

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I was actually invested initially but now that it's clear Ye Jae Wook will not get more characterisation I'm kinda bored and want to skip scenes. The humour too was a bit fun (cringe and second hand emarrasment and all) but now it's kinda getting repetitive, sigh.

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The humour was another prolem for me. I have a very low tolerance for cringe and second hand embarrassment unless it is done subtly or in a tongue in cheek way.

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I understand you. Though I can forgive it if the rest of the drama is solid, but that's not really the case here for me so yah it does bother me a bit.

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LOL! I did enjoy a poem a day, and I was on the Ye line from the beginning, but I understand your rant. The drama would have been way better if many characters hadn't been so annoying and jumping into conclusions, as you said, or if the writer would have developed more Lee Joon Hyuk's character instead of spending so much more time with Jang Dong yoon's.
But, but... I enjoyed the show because it was like finally an apparently "second lead material" (dr. Ye) gets the girl because he treats her better.
And mostly I really liked the drama because of the poetic narrative, at least when they intertwine poems into the daily life.
Of course, many say the romance was lacking because we never got too know many things we should have about dr. Ye, and I agree I would have liked him more if I knew, but... I just accepted the conclusion that he was that simple and kind of boring (I don't mean it in a bad way, by the way), and that as long as Bo young was happy, I was happy too... And boy she was ok with him. He always treated her with respect and attention and he was a decent person.
Yeah, he always handed out unsolicited advice to everyone, and many got annoyed with that too, although we know it was built up as a comic relief from the character, from the writer's point of view, and for me it worked, but supposing there was a person like that, well, nobody is perfect.
I personally enjoyed the drama most of the time but again, I understand you.
Nevertheless, I hope you finish it.

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I too enjoy the poetic narrative and have even jotted down some of the poems (my fav as of ep 12 is "What a fool you are" that Shin Min Ho narrates) and how it's tied to everyday the characters go through.
I read somewhere that the writer initially intended Bo Young to end up with Shin Min Ho (hence more time was spent on him) but because the Ye Line ship was so popular she changed it. I wish writers wouldn't do this. I would have loved the Ye Line ship (because he does treat her better) if only the writer had intended it to be THE ship from the start because the characterisation is severely lacking for me to enjoy the romance.
Right now if you put a gun to my head and ask me there's no other option other than Ye Jae Wook and Shin Min Ho, so who do you prefer Bo Young to be with, I'll probably say Shin Min Ho because he's been acting more and more considerate and is a way better developed character (I'm on ep 12 but I hear that he acts like a real jerk again towards the end..? In that case I would choose to get shot than have Bo Young end up with any of them lol).
Don't you worry, I have watched too many epsiodes to bail now so I'll definitely see the end of it tho I can't promise I won't use the 2x button to speed up the epsiodes 😅

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"In that case I would choose to get shot than have Bo Young end up with any of them lol"

I wrote right before the finale on my fan wall that Bo-young should remain sexy, free, and single in the end.

As for whether that happens...

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Literally what i want but its a kdrama..

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I'm with you. I really enjoyed the drama, but what one likes another one doesn't. I couldn't finish Sky Castle, for instance, could never finish episode one of When the Camellia Blooms, and even I had fun with Healer I think it was terribly acted, terribly filmed and terribly edited.

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Oof. It is true. What one likes, another one doesn't lol.

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HA! Are you my db twin?? I disliked Sky Castle, hated WtCB , and I SO AGREE on Healer!!

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Twinsies!
Hope @kafiyah-bello doesn't mind!
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@eazal, noooooooooo lol. I'm okay with it, hehe. I loved Healer, but I am 100% with you on the other two. Never made it past first episode of Sky Castle and didn't make it pass episode 2 of WtCB.

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It is nice to hear the shows that people liked and didn't like. I'm always surprised at the shows I loved and others didn't but then there are many shows that I disliked and others LOVED.
and that is perfectly fine. It makes it interesting to find out the reasons and sometimes I'll go back and watch to see what I missed.
but not always, there are just too many darned shows!

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Exactly! and it's so nice when we can openly discuss here on DB and learn more and exchange opinions. That's what I most like about this place.

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@eazal @kafiyah-bello WtCB is one of the rare shows I dropped at ep 12. Usually when I am that far along I ff to the end, but I couldn't stand another second of it.

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You all talking about WtCB and I don't know what it stands for. Which drama is that?
On the other hand, yes! It is so interesting what people like and dislike.
I am something in the middle, I think, but mostly I don't fall for the hyped action thrills, or detectives/police/politicians, etc ones.
Not all rom coms, and not at all those where they deal with occult.
But I fall for hypes like: it's ok not to be ok, and I loved Healer even though I binged it more than a year after it aired so... 😅😅😅😅
Anyway, it is nice to discuss with you all.

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That was me with Sky Castle, I dropped on episode 14.
@javinne we are talking about When the Camellia Blooms.

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@javinne WtCB stand for "When The Camellia Blooms".
I too didn't watch this past the premier week but it was because of lack of time then lack of interest. Haven't gone back to it yet tho.

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Wow, same here about When the Camellia Blooms. I made it to about episode 12, just because bored with a lack of character development. I went back later and watched the last 15 minutes of the final episode to confirm the ending. What a dull couple in the end!

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I haven't seen the series since Drama Fever days but I recall the rude doctor's behavior got *reinterpreted* as being a 'super-awkward shy dork' which is more endearing than merely being 'rude'. For all the cast (except the second male lead who had genuine problems) their annoying personalities got reinterpreted as charming eccentricities.

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Your rant is totally understandable. I really enjoyed the show but was also disappointed that we didn't get to know Dr Ye more (hey, that's the reason I was a neutral islander and not on the Ye Line officially). It's a writing flaw, because there was definitely enough time to develop even Nam-woo and his Alligator, as well as the radiologists and nurses' stories.

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And enough time to fully develop Min Ho's growth arc which ended with him being a fully mature and loving partner to Bo Young. Right?

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Yes of course...uhh... right.

*makes a mental note to just agree to whatever Ndlessjoie says and help her work through her long-standing pain*

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I'm apparently still looking for recruits from the Island of Neutrality.

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There, there. Shall I watch Mary Stayed Out All Night to make you feel better? Or write a gif-story about LT's indifference to WHO?

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Maybe I'm the one who should rewatch Mary Stayed Out All Night. Gif-stories are always good though. I'm sure LT would love it.

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🤣 Welcome to my pain. It was promoted as Jang Dong Yoon's first male lead role (where he would get the girl). Imagine my disappointment (okay, it was more like rage) when the writer changed course. If it hadn't had the best all-in-good-fun Beanie shipping war, I never would've finished it. @raonah My Captain

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My serious drama slump continues. For some reason everything else (listening to a book on tape, reading a book or making a puzzle) seem to be more enjoyable than watching dramas at the moment. I haven't watched a single episode in July for 3 weeks before I finally made myself watch the final two episodes of Will Have Dinner with Me? a few weeks ago. Then I tackled Backstreet Rookie but I still have 5 episodes to go. And I am waaaay behind in Once Again.

Then finally last week hubby finally wanted to watch a Korean drama with me. His second after Memories of Alhambra. I have been waiting for a few years to watch Circle with him and he is a binge watcher so we finished it in less than two weeks. It kept us guessing and we didn't see many of the twists and turns coming. I was annoyed that Byul's origins were never explained and hubby thinks after 3 years it's unlikely that there would be a sequel but overall it was a great watch.

I think he has a total new appreciation of the creativity and uniqueness of Korean dramas now. If I make careful selections I have hopes of fully converting him yet. 🤣🤣🤣

The only problem is sci-fis are few and far in between and the other genre that would attract him is not one of my favorites (crime). Still, I see it as progress and a win!!!!

Has anyone tried Dating is Annoying, but I Don’t Want to be Lonely? That's the only one piquing my interest now. Does it air only once a week?

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Did you happen to read mine and @leetennant’s piece on a sequel to Circle? We would love that too, but yeah, no takers yet.

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And since I’m just plugging my writing on the page right now...😂

http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/01/plot-twists-when-youre-dead-but-not-really/

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I haven't read anything on it, I avoided it for years not to spoil myself and we just finished it but I should! It does need a sequel.

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I started LONELY ENOUGH FOR LOVE (the Viki title) but frankly have not finished the first episode- so I am not sure I can recommend it.

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The Good Detective I'm not so interested in the story but more in the characters.

Memorials I will miss it! It was really a great drama from the beginning to the end and it's rare. I'm really happy they kept the cinematoraphy until the end because it was what it made this drama so fun to watch for me. The couple was super cute. 2020 gave me really good couple with a healthy and cute relationship like My Unfamiliar Family's Eun Hee-Chan Hyuk or Backstreet Rookie's Saet Byul-Dae Hyun.

When I Was the Most Beautiful The scenery is beautiful. The characters are so clichés for now... Poor second female lead, she's so badly written...

Forest of Secrets The Police and the Prosecution pass more time to fight against each other to fight against bad people in Kdramas.

Lovely Us It was a lovely drama 😅, kinda typical but nice to watch.

Avatar I rewatch the both seasons with Aang and Korra and it didn't age for me :)

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I’ve been kind of hesitant about starting WIWTMB because of all the cliches but I do want to give it a fair shot.... buuuttt I’m not sure how long I’ll last with them lol

Ahhhh Avatar!!! I remember watching this with my brother in elementary school and I’m rewatching it all with my family right now and it’s still just as entertaining and beautiful. Though, I will say I’m picking up on some of the nuances that could be considered for older audiences haha

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For WIWTMB, I think I last at least for the big bro and the FL and after I will see :p

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That ship seems better haha I know that there's a time skip and Jisoo isn't a student in the majority of the drama, but something about that initially just puts me off.

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I tried watching the first episode of WIWTMB and you are right there were just too many kdrama cliches. I didnt like the second FL from the second she showed up the screen, too. I gave up after that. I will try again to watch until the end of the first episode since I want to like it for ISH and Ji Soo

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I watched a few episodes of the 10-year-old Taiwanese rom-com Down With Love and, to my surprise, found it wildly entertaining. Jerry Yan isn’t my type (“You’re so not my type either, knewbie!” - Jerry Yan), but it’s hilarious how the show twists his beauty into goggle-eyed befuddlement. And it was nice to see the Ella Chen character being accommodating and exasperated at all the right moments, rather than getting outraged at tiny things while meekly submitting to real wrongs.

As for K-drama: SF8! FoS2! My cup runneth over.

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Finished HEALER!!!! Finally!!! It’s only been like two years. It took me a long time to get into this one—don’t know if it was the fact that it looked older, not as vibrant in terms of color palate, and didn’t hold my attention, until about ep 8-10. Episodes 6-7 was a slug fest with Elder being introduced and all the politics (snooze). I also was distracted the ENTIRE time that our villain brother was supposed to be the same guy 20 years later as that baby-faced actor without wrinkles and porcelain skin that they chose to be him in his younger days. He looked like he was at least 30 years older than that kid. I did enjoy the show, but how it garnered so many comments on recaps back in the day is just mind-boggling. And I think I agree with @leetennant about the last two episodes. The FL was relegated to a potted plant status while the ML regained his masculinity and just beat everyone up, and everyone else just ran around without much purpose. The whole Russian lab tech also was unnecessary. Why introduce a whole new character for just 2 episodes that could have been dealt with off screen? Overall, it was enjoyable and entertaining and Park Min Young is just a revelation and I get her hype now after seeing her across from several lead actors and having great chemistry with all of them. I think she made Ji Chang Wook much cuter than he would have been in this. He did do well playing bong-soo (@marcusnyc20) with that stutter though.

Also was able to catch the first two episodes of FOS2/Stranger 2. It took me a bit to get into this—but by the end of the second episode, seeing Weasel and Shi-Mok together in all their anti-bromance glory made my heart sing!

Happy watching, Beanies. Covid19 has taken a foothold here with no end in sight yet. I may be around less, but kdramas still are essential!

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Train: 6.5 - Noble idiocy is never a favorite, and putting it in the final day doesn't help. Not persuaded by the ending.

Stranger 2 / Forest of Secrets 2: 5 - Sorry, I can only grade the week on what they showed this week, not on season 1 or what we expect next week. So far it's a standard/boring police/prosecutor conflict with spoiled rich people and corruption. What else is new?

Queen In-Hyun's Man: 9.5 - Re-watched days 8/11. What passes for mid-show doldrums in this show is better than most other shows at their best

Memorials / Into the Ring: 8

Flower of Evil: 7.0

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Maybe it's because I haven't seen that many K-dramas, but for my part I find Forest of Secrets / Stranger Season 2 and the police-prosecution stuff far more original and gripping than Season 1's premise. For months I didn't bother to watch Season 1, thinking that it was going to be yet another "cold rational X works with bright warm Y to ferret out master criminal Z" show. (Which it kind of was, actually...)

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My ratings are mostly subjective, and are based mostly on the week, not the whole series. And the "red herrings" kind of piss me off.

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Yeah pretty much where I'm at with it too.

Still enjoying the show, but after I'm done with Stranger S1, I might watch something lighter. Thinking of putting FOE watching for Ep 7-13 later until Ep 14 appears (also pay wise too lol).

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Yes its still an enjoyable show. The leads are very talented and its still well written. Just have to wait for a different drama wherein LJK goes dark or just get my fix in finishing You S2.

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@jillian Same. I think b/c its live shooting rn (Welp), that they prob. altered a bit of LJG's character?? Prob. the closest a Kdrama will have to Dexter.

I finished You S2 after putting it off after Ep 5 b/c I find his character more insufferable lol. Pushed through and enjoyed it. Again, I'll say is that I don't care for the characters on a deep level imo, but the plot/pacing moves well & it gets to the point so I say its worth finishing!

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I think that this has been the show's trajectory since the beginning (so I feel slightly mislead) and also they may not want the ML to go dark since he can not be redeemed. Thus they chose the melo route and cast perfect actors to play the leads.

I stopped after watching episode 1 when he moved to the new city. He can be insufferable lol. Thanks for the tip. I will pick up S2 soon probably after FOE ends. 😊

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@jillian Np! For You S2, it was fun and more of a binge-watch on a weekend.

I am über curious where K-dramas will be in 5 years from now. How the situation will be? with more film actors jumping on board, am curious if by then, someone will attempt to do FOE with the ML being a legit psychopath and see if the writer takes us there :O

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A kdrama serial killer lead would be interesting to see. There are a lot of seasoned actors who can do justice to the role. I can think of Hello Monster/ I Remember You, Girl Who See Smells and Voice, the actors who played the villains were amazing. So its bound to happen right?

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MEN ARE MEN: I know many jewelers and craftsmen who could never put together in a day a shattered 50 year old music box back into pristine condition without even one hairline crack in the finish. That sums up the broken story pieces of the show. How can three failed past lives dictate your current life? Besides brain washing, what does Hyun Joo see in current Ji Woo? How is being a panic disorder, anal, obsessive, self-centered, controlling idiot attractive? The past lives story line really put this show off the rails.

WAS IT LOVE? And speaking of going off the rails, one cannot stuff so many different genres into one show to make it work. It started as a rom com, but now it drives off a cliff into a dark gangster drama? Dae Oh is blasted into a coma (but not one scratch on his face) from the exploding Chinese restaurant of doom. Is that the only way the writer could bring this family together? It was a little frustrating that Pado did not actually meet Sook Hee in the hospital room. They would make the most interesting couple. In fact, Pado’s story line is a better plot than the main one. A man kills his brother and step sister for gang control, and Pado keeps a dying promise to her to protect her child as his own.

MEMORIALS (Dropped/Dropped in at the End); I kept up reading recaps and watched segments when channel surfing. The lead couple had very good chemistry. Watched the last 4 episodes. From a distance, it seems the show fizzled out at the end. Se Ra’s first relationship lasted 9 years. At the end, her relationship with Gong Myung is 4 years in but it seems like no growth or marriage. With all the spunk and personality, Se Ra's story ends basically back at the beginning of episode one. Was producer thinking of a second season?
Variety:
HOW DO YOU PLAY? The SSAK3 project ended nicely with a House on Wheels style country dinner.
HOUSE ON WHEELS. Part one with Ha Ji Won was delightful. She is a nonstop laugh machine.
FUN RESTAURANT: Starting the bar food competition which is an interesting concept of a convenience store launch.

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Very little things make sense about this drama.

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If anyone else is watching Men are Men, can you explain how and why other than their past lives, how Ji-woo fell for Hyun Joo/vice-versa? Because other than the physical/past life stuff, I'm not entirely sure tbh. I'll say that the two leads are good actors, so no issue with that but I feel like the show sorta wasted their actors. Sucks that the happy/rom-com vibe we got in the beginning is coming back in the finale (Should've occurred in Ep 10!!).

The show runner should've either made this a melodrama or stuck with the rom-com vibe (Mis-marketed or what?) and have it still be the show where the FL declared no marriage but keeps getting haunted by prior flashbacks to a life she has no clue about. She then meets Ji Woo through her work, gets to know him, falls in love, and then explore the past lives aspect when she kisses him in Ep 6.

That way, she fell for him/he fell for her due to present day stuff. It's only until Ep 6 or so, when they both realize that the meet-up is fate/destiny when they kiss (and the flashbacks pop up). Then the two of them through open talk go to a therapist and then realize halfway thru the show their fate, and work on it together. And get rid of the evil mom too. Wasted Potential.

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I see more writers smashing together (like a car crash) two different genres. It starts off as a light rom-COMEDY then suddenly pivots to a dark rom-DRAMA. In the past lives I do not recall seeing why the main couple were ever together. I only saw that Hyun Joo is waiting for him after he left her.

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Hi everyone~~ Here's what I'm currently watching:

My Unfamiliar Family - this show was such a gem. Geniunely loved the growth of all the characters and the development in their relationships. I have to say my favourite character was Eunhee :) She was so vibrant as a character, and although I wouldn't necessarily agree with some of her decisions at the start, I just thought she brought so much life into the drama. Of course, I was completely squealing by the end seeing her and Chanhyuk being the absolute cutest haha I'll miss this one for sure >-< <3

Stranger - I was just so curious about Stranger after seeing sooooo many beanies' excitement for the second season that I had to give it a go. And... I like it :) Definitely see the worth of its hype now that I'm pretty hooked onto the show myself ^-^ One thing I have to say is I'm truly impressed by the writing of the characters and the acting!! A main lead who is 'emotionless' can be written or acted in a way that's quite 'lifeless'. Yet since the beginning, I never saw Shi Mok as an emotionless character (props to Cho Seung Woo's great acting), in fact I was more intrigued by how he had such a calm and quiet demeanor. And then we have Yeo Jin, a badass female lead who honestly could be quite stereotypical looking from the surface. But once again good acting and writing pulled her character through, making her completely shine since we were introduced to her. Really really looking forward to the rollercoaster this drama takes me on~~

Hospital Playlist Throwback - One thing I love about this lil throwback series is getting to see how talented all the cast of HP are. Watching Jung Moon Sung (Do Jae Hak) first act out Ik Jun, then Jun Wan, and finally Do Jae Hak in his auditions, it's truly fascinating getting to see how versatile his acting was. And honestly, this week's throwback clip only made me appreciate his character even more, especially since I could see how perfectly fit he was to play Do Jae Hak. Gosh, my love for this drama is endless~~ hehe

That's all for this week~ As always, have a lovely week everybody :)

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i just finished My Unfamiliar Family too. Eun Hee ans Chan Hyuk are absolutely adorable! They lucked out in finding each other. Each character has grown and I am happy with how their arcs were resolved.

I love FOS so definitely into Season 2. Its a character driven show and absolutely love the writing. CSW is doing a great job as Shi Mok and same with BDN as YeoJin. ShiMok has grown so much and looking forward to what will happen this season especially since they will be working for opposing sides.

I also love Hospital Playlist. Love the songs and the cast!

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Yes!! I was very satisfied with the ending of My Unfamiliar Family and felt so happy for the family :))
Trying to pace myself with Stranger or else I'll end up finishing it too quickly :P Definitely love the great character writing for sure!
Hospital Playlist has actually taken my heart haha I'm thinking of rewatching it again before the next season begins just because I miss the 99ers :<

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But of course Stranger / FOS2 is the one kdrama I have watched this week, and it's pretty darn good so far. I am yet to catch up with this week's Into The Ring, mainly because I can't bear the thought of it having ended! *wails*

In search of other work by Qin Hao after his solid performance in The Bad Kids, and I think on a recommendation by someone here some time ago, I watched the cdramaBurning Ice. It was decent till about ep 8 or 9 (although I could have done with a little less of the spoon-feeding), before descending into a gore-fest and total self-destruction by the end of it. I wish they'd finished the show a few eps earlier, and kept it a solid crime story, instead of something bordering on horror. :/

Go Ahead is the other cdrama I have been watching as a nightcap - pleasant story so far, terrific ensemble cast (not just the leads), though like I discussed on the fanwall sometime ago, I am not entirely sure how I feel about the impending change in the relationships between the characters. I like the found family as it is right now!

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I am really enjoying Go Ahead. I agree that that 2 of the sibling's(not blood-related) relationships do appear destined to change(romance). I hope that area is done well because that was the problem I had with Pinocchio.

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I am thinking of watching Burning Ice as i like the Bad Kids. Thanks for your review, I think I will skip.

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When I Was the Most Beautiful: Yes, rip my heart out and take it on an angsty road trip, I'm ready! Use your beautiful cinematography and pained performances and well-implemented tropes to MAKE ME SUFFER.

Was It Love: When was it this show forgot what it wanted to be? If it hadn't spent so much time on boring, repetitive, meandering miscommunications between these characters, the show could have done something interesting with its themes! Now because there's no time left, the only way to hastily get the characters from A to B is through a fucking KIDNAPPING. What a convenient situation to help establish trust between Ae-jung and Dae-oh, give Ha-nee some faith in him, and resolve the Pa-do Dong-chan plot at the time! It just means the characters don't have to do any WORK to sort out decades of deeply-rooted resentments! Tropes are fine when they have structure. Trope sandwiches, for instance, are delicious. But this is just lazy trope soup, and it's left a bad taste in my mouth.

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... By the way, when I say that the tropes in When I Was the Most Beautiful are "well-implemented", that's not to say that the story is the best thing ever. Tropey stories are always predictable, but only the ones where the tropes are well-implemented can be engaging anyway. I've seen this story a million times, but I still want to watch it again. That's what I mean.

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The amount of tropes I’ve heard that are in this one does scare me a little and I’ve been slightly hesitant to take the leap and actually watch the eps haha

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But if you did, we could play Trope Bingo together! 😂

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I think this convinced me... lemme just open Viki really quick 😂

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Oh my gosh, @juniebug, I actually want to make Trope Bingo a thing now! I just asked the Discord beanies for recommendations 😂

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Yesssss, I’d so be down to do that!! Also, there’s a Discord for DB??

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Oh yeah! A lot of us are on there! We used to all have a Rabbit chat room so we could watch things through screenshare, but then Rabbit died we all moved to Discord 😂
Wanna join?

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Omg that sounds amazing! I would love to! My ID is: achetty2#5345 (getting My ID is Gangnam Beauty vibes lol)

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Trope soup is still being too kind. Trope trash pile - an incoherent unwanted mess - seems more appropriate.

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I'm constantly thinking about how to assassinate this show as succinctly as possible 😂

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I gave up on WAS IT LOVE? After the first couple of episodes. This was a case of bad writing from the beginning.

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It was, at the very least, fun at the start - but no one is having fun any more 😅

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Was It Love (Episode 13-14)
Despite giving us with 6 different unlikeable leads (Pa Do managed to escape that label until the moment he didn’t tell Dong Chan the truth behind his mom), one character which I never thought the show would defame was Ha Nee (she’s been pretty much the victim of all the adults’ immaturity). Yet, that somehow happened this week with Ha Nee stupidly going back into the building for her bag knowing there was a gas leak! What happened to the usually mature Ha Nee? I can only conclude it was lazy writing to get Dae Oh unconscious so that the cliffhanger would have that awkward kiss.

Memorials (Episode 15-16)
The romance in the show was tackled very delightfully with the development of the couple progressing smoothly: there wasn’t any second lead or familial interference despite the presence of the ex-boyfriend Min Jae and the father-in-law Chairman Jo. I also felt that Yang’s murder was handled nicely: the truth behind that night explains why Bong becomes so powerless in the future since he was essentially blackmailed by Jo. The ending was a tad too fairy-tale like with the eldest stooge turning over a new leaf and Jo apologising but I enjoyed all the throwbacks to the start. Will recommend!

Train (A series overview)
After the debacle that was The Snooze: Eternal Slumber, another parallel universe show was not exactly one I really wanted to pick up. Yet, I found myself doing so when the other supposedly elegant whodunit lost its marbles and the two post military comeback shows ended up sensationalising mental disorders and perpetuating racism. All in all, I found the story having several issues: 1) Little if any development was given to Seo Kyung despite her being the female lead (if you’re going to put someone on the poster that character is a major lead), 2) World B’s Do Won was erased too quickly and Jung Min’s arc disappeared (we didn’t see World B Do Won do much in World A, also, isn’t Jung Min one of the leads?), 3) Train portals weren’t explained properly beyond being metaphors of chaos theory (how did Mi Sook find out about it?), 4) Finale jumped the gun going from duoverse to multiverse theory when the entire show was about how Do Won’s younger decision caused a duoverse (they actually retconned it!). On the upside, the twists were decent, plot continuity in the duoverse was maintained and we saw ample amounts of Yoon Si Yoon’s abs. He worked hard!

Also watching: Flower of Evil (Episode 7-8) / Graceful Friends (Episode 11-12) / Men Are Men (Episode 13-14)

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Lazy writing is exactly correct. Sigh. Still think this drama should have been about the two kids searching for the truth of their missing parent, with all the adults as side characters.

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Completed: Train, Into the Ring (both stayed solid throughout)

Dropped: All the Guys Who Loved Me (might fast forward through the final 4 episodes once the last episode is out)

Still watching: The Good Detective, Flower of Evil (both still good)

Started: Forest of Secrets 2 (very happy with the first 2 episodes); When I Was the Prettiest (will probably drop by next week, far too trope-y and chock full of stock characters)

Was planning to binge watch some older dramas I had missed but got caught up in BTS's Dynamite comeback 😁

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The Good Detective. I'm a halfhearted admirer.

Forest of Secrets 2. So far for me it lacks the appeal & energy of the original. Too talky, too info-driven, too something. But Hwang Shi-mok is still there, still his old immoveable self. Maybe he'll carry us through.

To get a breath of humorous fresh air in a crime drama, rewatching The Fiery Priest. The humor is outrageous when you consider the premise of the story, but the quirky characters in this craziness are just a hoot.

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Last week when I watched SF8 I commented that anthology series usually place their best episodes first and last with the middle episodes of varying quality. Their first episode 'The Prayer' was staggeringly good. The second episode "Manxin" was a pretty good sci-fi 'concept piece', though the plot took second place to the world building. The story reminded me of 'Raider of the Lost Ark' in that the actions of the lead, for all their bravado, had no effect on the story outcome. Things would have transpired as they did whether the heroine was in the story or not.

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Reply 1994 (21/21): Poor Na-Jung got a messy love life because we were not allowed to know anything until the end.🙄Since romance is the key of the reply series, I can see why the majority prefers Reply 1997. The amount and length of episodes plays an important part as well. As much as I agree with these flaws, I still do prefer the boarding house family over the Busan classmates. I will miss real life maknaes Baro and Min DoHee nagging and hitting their Yoo Yeon-Seok and Kim Sung-Kyun sunbaes!😆Seeing all the boarders leave the nest felt like I was moving out with them.😭 Reply 1988 will be next, and I am looking forward to living with the other families in the neighborhood!🏡❤️

Memorials/Into The Ring (16/16): Third Bean for 2020! This show has been one of the silver linings of 2020 for me so far. Se-Ra and Gong-Myung are probably my favorite OTP and Gong-Myung my favorite male lead of all time! There are more excellent male leads out there, but Gong-Myung is among the few that would actually sweep me off my feet in real life as well.❤️ Se-Ra definitely would be a handful in real life, and I fully understand why some Beanies found her over the top in certain ways. However, she bulldozed into my life at the right time and left an impact on both Mawon-Gu and my views of my future. If she can represent a district, then I can represent my life.💪

Mori who stole the Beanie’s hearts (19/30): I thought eunuchs were always ugly, short, fat and old. What on earth is Ahn Bo-Hyun doing among them?😂Gil-Dong and Ga-Ryung are married!🎉I had not expected it to happen so soon after their first kiss, but it makes sense considering how long they have literally been together and how much story there is still left to cover. Now that I am nearly two third into the story, I find it both a lot easier to press play, and a lot harder to wait for the next episode.😆Mori is still looking *mighty* fine, but Gil Hyun stole my heart. There, I finally admitted it to myself.

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Hello Beanies!!

This week I needed up going on a minor K-Variety spree amidst my drama watching, specifically Busted! and I-Land.

Busted! is so scripted it honestly hurts sometimes but I appreciate the whole murder mystery aspect and the cast is just so much fun to watch. I just started the second season and it’s all based around a serial killer named “The Flower Killer” and I’m getting Flower of Evil vibes haha

As for I-Land, no matter how much it hurts to watch because of eliminations or just bad coaching/editing/etc, I’m a sucker for those survival shows. It’s just so weird because for the first time that I’ve seen, a survival show has participants that are younger than me. And, it also makes me feel bad about what I’m doing with my life LOL

K-Drama-wise,

Flower of Evil: This continues to hit all of the right notes!! MCW and LJG are shining in their roles and I love the direction everything’s going!

Hospital Playlist: This is soooooo good. I’m on ep 3 and I love the friends so much and the whole dynamic of the show is top-notch. I have no qualms or quibbles about anything so far!

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Whoops! I forgot about Forest of Secrets 2!! I’m not sure if this was a common feeling among other Beanies, but I felt like the premiere was lacking a little in comparison to the first season. I love CSW and BDN in their roles and the premise seems just as interesting as the first but something feels missing though that may just be my “nothing can beat the first” mentality shining through. I will say that I felt things picking up during the second ep so maybe it was just the first and a half eps that was slowing me down a bit. Excited about this week though!

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Busted! is so fun to watch - it's just ridiculous and madcap. The first few episodes everyone seemed so confused, but now they're this adorable team and since no one seems to be taking it too seriously, it's hilarious to watch them goof off together (especially since Park Min-young essentially solves everything in about 5 seconds flat, from what I can tell). I'm looking forward to season 3.

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The cast is so funny! The way most of them are just going with the flow and are making the most outlandish comments is hilarious and I love it. Park Minyoung is definitely a force to be reckoned with and now I'm honestly curious to see if she'll take on a detective-type/crime role because of how good she is at solving everything haha I am missing the Lee Kwangsoo-Yoo Jaesuk interactions in this season but I'm excited for when Lee Seungi gets introduced.

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Ha, yes, totally agree - the Lee Kwang-soo/Yoo Jae-suk repartee is a highlight of season 1. They are both just so dang funny! I was bummed that LKS's schedule conflicts meant he couldn't do season 2...but rumor has it he may be back for season 3, which I believe is airing this November or so! :-) And LSG did well, especially since it has to be hard to be a latecomer to a group like that.

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That’s what I heard too and I’m really excited for him to return!! I haven’t seen him yet but I’m curious to see what his role will be haha

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I'm glad for Moon Chae Won the most! Not necessarily a fan, but I find her naturally beautiful, and felt bad that despite her huge 2010-2013 status, that she hasn't been able to get back to it. While FOE might not do it, it is giving her a chance to shine again/show off her acting chops/physicality. It seems like a better opportunity overall for her than Mama Fairy was, which I heard she got sidelined for the ML/SML's bromance.

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The last time I saw her was in Innocent Man and I ended up dropping it after a couple eps (I don’t remember if it was because of time or just disinterest), so I never truly got a taste of her acting. But, so far her performance has been amazing and I love the nuances in her facial expressions and actions. Might not make me a fan but definitely a performance worth noting.

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Same here. Her choices since Good Doctor *Her last well known role/drama have been dismal.

She is better than I thought in FOE. Yep, not something where I'm like "Now I'm a MCW fan" but its good this show is making her flex her acting guns again. Didn't watch Innocent Man, but I heard she was good in it. Her most famous/successful yrs were at KBS. I notice public channel tends to stop casting their favs for younger talent compared to cable (which I notice has more older/veterans).

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I might give Innocent Man or Good Doctor a shot after FOE finishes just to watch another one of her works but it’s sad that she hasn’t had a remarkable drama since then.

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I'm really hoping FOE propels her to a higher standing in terms of dramas because her acting skills definitely are good enough.

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Their relationship is heartbreaking despite having so much chemistry and I honestly love that for the show. Their BTS interactions are so much fun to watch though! The one thing I’m kind of still sad about is the fact that Hyunsoo is more misunderstood than a killer because I thought that would be really interesting to see play out. But, overall I’m just loving it.

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Yes he is definitely misunderstood. The show lucked out on their leads. I could not imagine anyone else playing Hyun Soo and Ji Won.
I did see a few BTS and they look like they are having fun. LJK makes it seem effortless since mostly see him happy in the bts.

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Definitely!! LJG and MCW are doing stellar jobs with their roles. Each week I'm amazed by how good their acting is.

I love how LJG ends up playing such serious roles but in real life, he's a goof and loves to play around and have fun. He seems like such a fun person haha

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I have been watching I-Land with my daughter, and both of us have massive amounts of pity for the contestants: not only are they at the mercy of arbitrary yet make-or-break tests, they are also not just ranked by talent - which they can all fairly well accept - but by global popularity voting which has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with nationality, supposed charm, and love of the underdog. We have also decided that the producers have a set of core 'ringers', 4 or so candidates that they will make sure get into the final group to ensure something they can work with, then 3 or so more or less determined by luck of the game and popular vote. Poor little guys.

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I completely agree and I think that's accurate for any K-pop survival show. The whole system is just brutal for all of them. It's all about favoritism whether by the producers or by the audience which leaves so many capable boys in the dust and ultimately, eliminated. Plus, talking generally, they're all so young and I can't imagine the amount of stress and mix of emotions they're experiencing. The fact that this popularity determines who debuts and who doesn't inherently minimizes their hard work (maybe not entirely, but it's still there) and that breaks my heart. During the first elimination round, there were many boys who were capable and had the skills whether be dancing or singing, but despite that it just came down to the favorites of both producers and fans. I haven't watched this week's ep yet, but I know this is just going to be even more brutal from here on out.

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Train: should have 16 episodes, too many things that havent explained and the last episode feels so so so rushed

Memorials: havent watch the last 2 episode but i will miss the cutest couple ever

Flower of Evil: or Flower of makjang? when i watched the trailers i thought my heart is going to aches for the wife (Jiwon) but nah my heart breaks for both of them. i dont signed up for this suffering. this is the drama that make me excited the most atm.

Secret Forest S2: the police vc prosecutor thingy is so suffocating tbh because this childish rivalry between them, the investigation becomes a mess. i wanna see Shimok and Yeojin working together quickly.

Count Your Lucky Stars (Cdrama): havent watch this but im so suprised seeing Jerry Yan on my Viu timeline? so old Meteor Garden male lead appear on drama with new Meteor Garden female lead?

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episode 14 could be extended into 2 episode tbh i 14 about the chief real identity eps 15 about the truth of parallel universe. i hate that they tried to close this drama with noble idiocy. i feel like Dowon is too easy to trust Chief's words

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Oo~ I like that break up! Learning more about the Chief’s background would’ve added so much and although the ending scene was sweet, the noble idiocy was just too much.

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Voice 2 (rewatching): i wanna say this season is better than the season 1 but idk why is the writer is so cruel to Do Kangwoo? i cant bring myself rewatching the season 3. let him life....

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Eun-joo's Room - it was a cute little watch. The leads were cute, but I never understood why they took 20 years to get together. Everyone and their mama knew they belonged together but they were both hesitant for....reasons. The show makes me want to renovate my apartment though lol
Miss Hammurabi - I have 2 episodes left. I have been enjoying it, but I do get frustrated by the FL's (and the show's) definition of justice. Yes, there are crimes that are the by-product of an unfair society, but that doesn't excuse every single poor person with a tragic history. I do like the conversations that it brings up because the ML is willing to have these arguments without either degrading the other. Also I love L. He's adorable and doing really well here. I've loved him in everything I've seen him in actually though I think I've avoided his worst choices (She's Lovable (or something like that) and the cat one (though that is still sort of on my list)).

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I love L too, I have also not watched the She's Lovable or the Cat drama either.

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For me his worst performance was ruler master of the mask. If you didn’t watch that one you lucked out.

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Oooh I forgot about that. I tried live watching that, got maybe half way, and just couldn't continue. That's saying a lot since I almost never drop kdramas. He wasn't really the main problem but yeah that was bad.

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he wasn't. the whole show/characters were a mess but he overacted quite a bit in it is my point

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It’s okay to not be okay: so I decided to pick this show up from where I last left off which was ep 4 and I couldn’t stop clicking next. After two days I’ve managed to binge up till episode 14 and boy was it a rollercoaster ride. So much ups and downs and cute family and romantic moments that I don’t know where to put my focus on. Although the revelation of moon young’s mum actually surprised me quite a bit (good thing I’m quite dull when it comes to these kind of things) so now I’m off to watch the rest of this drama which I can count on to have a happy ending right?

Men are men: fast forwarded my way through the last two episodes because I don’t have time for the stank faces the characters had to make at each other for the entirety of the 2 hours. Glad that the angst is now over and we can get to the cute before the finale.

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I'm glad you're enjoying the rollercoaster (so true!) that is IOTNBO. Don't wait to spoil anything for you, but the shakiest eps for me were 13 & 14, so if you're anything like me, I think you'll be happy with the homestretch!

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I am so far behind in both Memorials and Men Are Men. The only show I watched this week was SF8, and Lee Yoo-young was fantastic in it. It airs just once a week and has only 8 episodes. Will watch the second episode this weekend, I hope some of the upcoming episodes have happier themes.

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I'm having a hard time figuring out what I want to watch next - think I'm still coming up from my IOTNBO deep dive. I've watched a few episodes of House on Wheels, and I'm really enjoying it. It feels like a nourishing time out from 'real life.' Since reading that quite a few upcoming shows are now delayed, I'm thinking of watching an "oldie" on my list - maybe Jealousy Incarnate or Moorim School? I may also start Memorials (as it wraps, I know, I know!) - seems like it should be up my alley, and I can't figure out why it hasn't appealed to me very much.

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Not recomend Moorim School. If you wanna see more Seo Yeaji, Lawless Lawyer or Save Me is so much better choice.

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Lawless Lawyer getting better when the leads start working together. And Save Me is indeed hard to watch list. Marathoning is the best way to watch imo, because i can watch it without much thinking. Usually i watch kdrama ongoing but this one is exception

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Even marathoning Save Me didn’t make it less hard for me. I really had to pause in between the episodes, like 1-2 episodes with a day or sometimes half a day break.

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Okay, so for some reason I thought it would be a good idea to watch A Piece of Your Mind, after Its okay not to be okay. I wanted a calm and soft drama. And.....

A piece of your mind - When it is beautiful, it is beautiful. When it is amazing, it is the most amazing ever. When it is boring, it is the most boring thing ever. And then there is this thing in the middle that makes absolute no sense. The first 4 episodes are a mess. The rest of the drama, while tries to follow the initial plot, it is so disconnected, that you wonder what was that for. Dont get me wrong, I wanted so much from the story, I wanted them to go a bit deeper about the device and much more from everything. But the flower lady made no sense until episode 11. The husband was bleh/guilty and I absolutely hate the lack of conversation between people. So many misunderstood because of it. So many years of pain. Someone better make a remake of this drama, but with a better writer and a better editor #justice4apieceofyourmind #thisdramadeservesbetter

Age of Youth - Just started, because I still need to get over IONTBO and now APOYM.

When I was the most beautiful - I liked, its not bad. But the closes up at Im Soo-hyang, worries me, because sometimes I feel like her nose is gone.

Hangout with Yoo - seriously, if you need something to cheer you up, I highly suggest episode 55. The whole SSAK3 series is amazing (you can skip some parts), but it in times of Corona, it truly gave me a reason to laugh.

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I watched Age of Youth (season 1) in between waiting for more IOTNBO, and I really enjoyed it, I think partly because it was so different from IOTNBO. It made me nostalgic for my own college days in the best way possible - and it also led to some great reminiscing convos with some good gal pals. :-) Hope you enjoy it!

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I am happy to see that someone else is also bothered by Im Soo-Hyangs nose. She is a fine actress, and a melo like When I was the Most Beautiful seems a good space for her, but I just wish I could stop staring at those tiny little nostrils. I am unfortunately reminded of Michael Jackson. It's so shallow but I can't help it.

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Airing
1. The Good Detective: 13-14. Honestly I get confused cause I can't remember names properly. Lol regardless it's good. The group interactions makes me laugh. Sad only two episodes left.

2. Train: Ep 11-12 Rating 8.5/10 Yeah some questions were left unanswered but I am not surprised they wouldn't go into too much detail. Kind of reminded me about 365: Repeat the Year in that respect. Still like that one the mystery of the killer and the motives of the characters were more important. And the ending might feel rushed to others but to me it was expected.

3. Flower of evil: Ep 6-8 Didn't know I would get hooked to this. Now that I know the ML isn't the killer. I totally understand the reaction of the FL. It might feel like she is being cruel but to her if was all a lie. But yeah it does hurt.

4. Was it love: 10-12 Sigh the FL should have been more honest with her daughter. Lots of should haves. This drama has a big communication problem.

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I too have trouble remembering the many names in.good detective so what I do is that I have the asianwiki page for good detective open on my mobile while I watch the drama on my laptop. Asianwiki uses the character's pictures and not the actor's so that really helps plus it also has every character neatly characterized (like all the characters related to lee dae chul listed under "lee dae chul's group", all the police detectives listed under "West incheon police detectives"and so on) so it's easy to find them.

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That's what I do when I comment on recaps, otherwise it's totally insane for me to remember the names.

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I don't need many names to have troubles to remember them... And if I do, I don't know the spelling... asianwiki is really a big help for me.

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Currently watching:

1. Goblin
Strange, right? Lol I never liked Goblin. I tried watching this one two times already: The first I ended up dropping it at ep.8, the second trial I dropped it at ep.2. But right now, I feel like watching it and am enjoying it immensely (now at ep.5) Like some said before, never say never. And if only the timing is right...

2. FoS 2: Tbh, I forgot what happened in SS1. That was why I couldn’t really connect some dots watching eps 1-2 in this SS. I guess in order to fully enjoy it I’ll need to rewatch the first SS which I don’t feel like doing at the moment. Again, if only the timing is right...

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GOBLIN is a classic.

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Until it was swallowed by the subway curse.

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Don't worry, you are not the only one with Goblin. I hate that drama with a fire of a thousand suns. The memory still pisses me off.

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Once the story neutered the power/threat of the spirits on Eun-Tak that it had set up in the beginning it lost an important driver.

Still, Han Seo-Jin's ep01 scene at the death of her mother ("you are not my mom") is, for me, one of the best crying scenes in all of SK Drama.

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I'll be waiting to hear what your think of Goblin. Maybe we'll agree again? I'm slowly watching IOTNBO.

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Perhaps. I'll let you know later on.

And.. I have stopped.. or dropped? IOTNBO a long while ago. We really are different, aren't we? lol

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Very different. 😂 I'm actually annoyed by the treatment of mental illness and am watching it as a fairytale solely because I like the actors.

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@ndlessjoie I finished Goblin today and I adored it! I don’t know why it didn’t appeal to me earlier, but guess it’s all about timing. There are many beautiful messages conveyed in the drama, and I’m all for it.

I used to think that Ji Eun-yak character is a nuisance, but it’s bearable and sometimes even ..well, quite .. well I’ll go back to bearable.

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And I’m glad Gong Yoo remains single, he lights up the world.

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Another one we both enjoy!

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I’m a bit hesitant about starting any currently given the current Covid situation- am thinking I’ll stick to completed stuff for now at least.

My sister and I are marathoning Lee Seung Gi’s dramas and we’ve just finished Shining Inheritance - technically it’s not that great and it’s very dated, but I really enjoy this drama. It definitely gets better as it goes along. Next up is King2hearts which I have never seen 😱 so I’m looking forward to it.

Have also taken the plunge and started watching Six Flying Dragons. I’m only one episode in so far (49 to go!) but it looks interesting.

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I liked Six Flying Dragon too. I remembered it got better and better. Given that I never really liked period dramas, SFD must have been very good that I remembered I felt good finishing all those many episodes.

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I gave up on Six Flying Dragons about 1/4 of the way into it - I think after the Boon-yi episode. Is it worth going back and picking it up again? I did like the historical elements of it but just couldn't quite settle into it.

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Apart from the romance part which I found very bland and kind of lackluster, I kinda liked where the story was going. It was interesting for me and if my memory serves me right there was another couple that I was rooting for.

I’d say it’s a good one but everything depends on the mood and preferences of each watcher, so I can’t really say if you should continue this one or when you should do it.

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Memorials : a delighttt until the end. I will throw myself for a guy like Gong Myung in real life. The ending make sense. Love Sera and her gang. This drama is a surprised, i didn't even wait for this one. But this is the best drama that airing now. ( I know is finished already :p)

Im in the mood of Cdrama because of ROMANCE OF TIGER AND ROSE, anybody watched this? This is a delight. I rarely watch Cdrama except for some Xianxia like ashes of love or history heavy like Nirvana in fire. Hopefully some beanis give this one a try. XD

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Many Beanies commented on THE ROMANCE OF TIGER AND ROSE, to universal approbation.

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Hahaha it deserves the hype. I really love the female actress and finally searched her other dramas. Xd

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I'm watching the Romance of Tiger and Rose right now and loving every single minute of it! It's so youthful and sweet!

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Yes yes just so enjoyable. Maybe some plot holes here and there. But still enjoyed it very much.

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I finished my C-drama.

SONG OF GLORY: 10 episodes of fun, 10 episodes of palace intrigue (yawn), 10 episodes of exciting war stuff, 10 episodes of taking down the villains one by one, 10 episodes of heartbreak and fizzling towards a happy ending, and 1 episode to completely destroy it all with an ambiguous lame ending. WHY.

Two movies:
THE LAST PRINCESS: It's about the tragic life of Princess Deok-hye (1912-1989), the daughter of King Gojong, who was sent to Japan as a child and didn't return until 60 years later. Son Ye-jin can do no wrong, and Park Hae-il fan kills me with his eyes. Kim Jae-wook looks super spiffy in a suit. 👌

THE KING'S LETTERS: So apparently this movie created a ruckus in South Korea because Hangul is considered the creation of King Sejong, but the film showed him collaborating with Buddhist monks. However, I thought it was an interesting fictional take... It makes sense to think Sejong consulted people versed in other languages, and Buddhist monks with their knowledge of Sanskrit and Tibetan (as well as Chinese) could have contributed. Sejong himself published a life of Buddha, so he couldn't have been totally against them even if Joseon had rejected Buddhism in favour of Confucius' teachings.

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Cool. I was taught by my Korean teacher that you are never to refer to King Sejong, but he must always be called King Sejong the Great. 😁

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I offer that as an amusing aside, not as any kind of correction.

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No worries, I think that’s fascinating, thanks! It shows how important he is for Koreans, and why they’d make a fuss if they thought the movie offended his sacred memory. If I ever go to Korea I will make sure to refer to him as King Sejong the Great. 😁

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I am still watching the weekender ONCE AGAIN which has really picked up now that Da-hee and her man have revealed their intention to marry. Meanwhile Na-hee and her ex have been discovered.

Missvictrix is right about HOUSE ON WHEELS as therapy. You can watch it in snatches and this has been a good thing for me as work has been heavy lately. I need a short break from time to time. I am part way through episode 10 right now.

I understand that DO DO SOL SOL LA LA SOL will start this coming week.

My wife continues to love SONG OF GLORY and THE EMPRESS KI. When she runs out of subtitles she watches something else and this week it was DREAMING BACK TO THE QING DYNASTY. She watched all forty episodes in four days and thought it was fun.

We are watching SYMPHONY’S ROMANCE, the C-Drama remake of NODAME CANTABILE. It is much better than the other C-drama remakes that I have seen recently. The actors have their hearts in what they are doing and we really see their struggles.

In contrast the J-drama remake of the classic T-drama FATED TO LOVE YOU, titled YOU ARE MY DESTINY (like the C-drama version) has just broadcast its first episodes. I was underwhelmed by the C-drama version but it was actually better than what I have seen of the J-drama. I have seen some great Japanese shows with wonderful actors giving great performances- but we are not getting that here. Of course the original T-drama had the fabulous Joe Chen as the Sticky Note Girl, Baron Chen as Dylan- the greatest second lead of all time- and the beautiful Bianca Bai as the ballerina- and all the actors gave their best for a script that was well constructed even if it was a bit slapsticky at times. Of the re-makes that I have seen only the K-drama version of FATED TO LOVE YOU really did justice to this story, in part because of the casting of Jang Na-ra as the sticky note girl and Jang Hyuk as the male lead (but that laugh of his!).

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Re House of Wheels as therapy - I second that! I stumbled upon this after reading a few of @missvictrix's recaps and am so glad I did. It's delightful and rejuvenating. Like you, I dip in and out. I hope they keep this concept going, even if they swap out the trio in the next season or something.

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Forest of Secrets S2: The show is still setting up the current climate and where our beloved characters are at as of March 2019. Shimok and Yeojin seems to be in regular communication despite the distance. I was most excited to see Seo Dong Jae back in his element. Plus seeing where Lee Yong Jae is after the death of her husband. We see her as the new Chairwoman of Hanjo Group in a meeting, looking calm and in charge while keeping her dissappoinment with her all male presidents in check. We got to see new characters with Chief Choi Bit on the police side and Chief Woo Tae Hoo on the prosecutor side. Then we got to meet the current Chief Prosecutor Kang Won-chul. Last, it was interesting to see that Chairwoman chose to reach out to Chief Prosecutor Kang amidst the brewing scandal of that article. Now I wonder if she has any control on Chief Prosecutor Kang.

Flower of Evil: Things are heating up between our leads. Ji Won got her heart broken multiple times this week. Hyun Su would work hard to get her good graces back once he realizes that she knows his secret.
Our little family is on the verge of collapsing until Hyun Su and Ji Won have a real conversation. I dont think that will happen soon since Hyun Su is adamant to keep his fake identity intact. I do want Ji Won to join our little band of misfits. Hopefully Hyun Su will come clean soon. That ending does not bode well for him since the real Hee Seong just woke up.

My Unfamiliar Family: Finally! Chan Hyuk wore her down with his steadfast devotion and cheesy lines. They have known each other since college and that confession was long overdue. Its very fitting that their official relationship will begin infront of Deoksugung Stonewall Walkway. And very funny on how her siblings found out about their change in relationship status.
All the family issues was resolved one by one. It was heartening to see that their mother chose to live her life her own way.

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Flower of evil: The show keeps on drawing me in every week. This week I felt so sorry for Hyun soo, Ji won is such a strong character and she won't make anything easy on him. Fingers eager to type awaiting recap post!

After summer hiatus, I finally finished Extraordinary you, and although I liked the premise of the show and loved the first half and most of all Kim Jae won (not Beak Kyung, to be clear, but the actor's enactment of him), the latter half was so slow and dare I say boring towards the end. Also, after having read a beanie comment on the voice of the female lead and her terrible aegyo, I couldn't un-hear it.😱

Whilst trying to stay away from rewatching and dissecting Flower of evil, I decided to watch The Romance of Tiger and Rose after having read so many praises on db, and boy, am I glad I did! 😍 The show is endearingly childish and innocent in a lot of ways and I think it fits the premise of being an aspiring screenwriter's first show very well. Am as of episode 16 loving two things: Ryan Ding's mimicry and the ending theme 'Rumor' by Huo Zun.

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I love ”Rumor” - and TRoTaR was an unexpected good surprise. And I loved the fruit circle, lol, and the two servants bickering like an old couple. Definitely a great, lighthearted show.

And it seems to be getting a second season, lol. (If you haven't finished it yet, don't worry, there's a good ending already. A second season would have to have a completely new plot.)

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i agree that Ji Won is a strong character but Hyun Soo is also not bad himself. They need to work together to clear Hyun Soo's name first theb resolve their relationship issues next. Can't wait for next week's episodes.

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Currently Airing

SF8: THE PRAYER: This was a fascinating little short. Definitely dark and reminiscent of the TV series BLACK MIRROR. I plan on continuing on. (ep. 1)

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Stranger: More than halfway through the show. Excellent writing and great usage of background cast as well as main cast. See it can be done when both leads are cool w/ sharing screen time with others! Serious note: There were some parts where it was technical, so it was a bit hard to dissect but past an episode or two, the show went swinging! For a show that's quite talky, it pulls you in with its smart writing. Also I love that the tone is serious throughout with spurs of levity, a lot of K-dramas start off one way and then halfway/towards the end b/c a diff. drama tone wise (Comedy to drama and vice versa) which can be tonal whiplash. Bae Doona is cool as always, she's isn't hysterical as other FL's, and is driven like Cho Seung Woo by conviction, justice, & morale.

Men are Men: Already talked about this in other replies, but lackluster. Waste of two perfectly fine actors. I hope that they nail the last 2 episodes (Seems by preview/more lighthearted), I wish it continued on the funny that it showed in Ep 1/2 :(

Witch's Romance: Funny/a bit racy for its time/flirty. Also YHM is in this show and he's hilarious. Even though his character is a ladies man, he's my fav. here for some reason. Harmless and funny. Makes me wonder what's up w/ his career choices lately (maybe the offers he gets aren't great?), but he does well with the smarmy, cocky, and witty dialogue/acting. Again, MAM should've used this side of him more :/

My Holo Love: Geez, wonder if there's a pattern lol ;) Binge-watched. Fun trope filled show that dragged more or less in the middle and last 2 episodes w/ noble idiocy. However, the pacing generally was good, and the way it talked about A.I and such was good/very now. The 2 leads had good chemistry together, very cute, but I wish they were more like ITR couple w/ more skin-ship/kiss scenes lol. (I wish the show had more of them Nan-do) than the silly cop stuff which was annoying. Overall, quite enjoyed it and YHM is now a fav! (He pulled off three different personalities/he carried the show acting wise for me). Also his motorcycle outfit was really hot/he looked really good in this show.

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Men are men: Blah blah blag, what a waste of talent.

The Good Detective: Do Chang, Eun Hye, and Eun Hee's family moment was so cute. What a fab moment. Eun Hye's joy at belonging was beautiful.

Memorials: A+++, Se Ra and Gong Myung were so cute. The rest of the drama was fine too. I would recommend to those looking for a nice feel good drama without too much trauma porn. It had some flaws, but overall it was lovely.

When I was beautiful: The first episode was fine. The 2nd episode proceeded into nonsense. If Ji Soo is the lead, his relationship with the female lead has already skivved me out. Every time they were together all I kept saying was is inappropriate. I don't know if I will finish this.

Flower of Evil: Poor Ji Won. She genuinely has her heart broken. I feel bad for her. That being said Hee Sung does have affection for her, just like he has affection for his daughter and his sister. Does he love them? Probably not in the intense way that they love him, but there is affection. He reminds me of this guy https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/.

Forest of Secrets: Here we go!!!

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Right on MAM: Its not an god awful show imo, there are still some elements that I like but the switch of the tone really hurt the show in the end. (The last two episodes seem more fun to watch/which is what it should've been all throughout but anyways still watching for the mains lol).

Both actors have charm/and are talented individuals, but the writer and PD didn't guard a tight ship with them.

If I've to be positive, I do remember liking the perilla pay scene (that was cute/I want more moments of Ji-woo being tipsy/adorable), the bookmark scene of the rated 19 web-toon, elevator hand scene, the ML and SML interacting in Ep 1/2, & the kiss scene in the rain/kitchen. If the show had more of this, I would've enjoyed it a lot more plus taking out the antagonist or at least giving the actress (who is doing a good job/yay for Older actresses getting a meaty part) another shade to her (a good side as well?)

Still for some weird reason, I'm compelled to keep watching LOL. The leads look so sad now :( I mean the wheelchair scene was super sad to see, props to YHM for emoting well. I felt the pain.

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That's saying something right haha??

It's weird to explain it too. I get annoyed sometimes by the antagonist and silly character choices, but its also weirdly compelling lol. And the story moves slower so its like you can rest a bit, and still not miss too much haha ;)

I wonder if @laica is still watching since they did the first recap episodes? They did mention they might consider doing a series recap at the end (it got postponed by 2 wks (Safety comes 1st!) if they like it lol. So not sure haha?

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We three are on the same boat.
None of us why we keep watching this, haha

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I just finished watching a Japanese drama, Kotaki Kyoudai to Shikuhakku and so far it is my must-watch of any drama this year. Short, sweet, and so many tears shed! And one of my favorite artists did the theme song too.

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The Good Detective My eyes glazed over in ep. 13, there were so many mentions of villains and new characters, by name, that everybody seemed to recognize - well, I didn't. Particularly the newly out-cropped villain brother who used to be a cop (under a name) and then a priest? (under another name) but was also the brother of one of the already present villain. I got so lost... I don't know if I like the way the politicky thing got in the first row, while the detective team and KDC were all left a bit behind in the penumbra. I'd have preferred it if there was more police work done instead.

As for OJH's father's death, unless his cousin decides to suddenly confess he did it or ordered it because reasons, I guess it'll stay unresolved forever. Or they make a second season. Is that feasible?

- a c-drama that was very entertaining in its first two-thirds, then somehow took a really strange turn and flat-bellied the landing. I had a lot of fun with the FL acting like a fish-out-of-the-water and the shenanigans of the ML & crew trying to keep her out of trouble and do their own side-thing uncaught, but then it became something like a tug-of-war with the villain cast (and none of them were that good at being villains anyway.)

Too bad, I really like the great house interiors and the new-outfits for everyone each episode, lol. The ML's female friend was persistently distracting, for some reason, I kept thinking of Kang Chul's sidekick secretary from W.

The love stories were kind of convoluted, and overall, could have done better. But oh well, wishful thinking by now.

The one thing that I'll definitely remember lol - they used to have living-room discussions while the TV was left on on the wall. And at one amazing moment, they were not watching The Untamed on it. I went ballistic in an instant and chuckled throughout the whole episode - because WWX caught in the wild!

After that, because Flower of Evil is not over yet, and I'm not diving in that hole until it's finished, I had a great struggle to find my next drama. The end of summer is coming, and I'm stressed, so nothing much appeals. I tried c-drama Memory Lost and put it on hold at 2 episodes, because it's not really what I want atm, then looked at Cross Fire which seems pretty interesting, but it's not completely translated yet. Eventually I settled on Thai BL drama Why R U and I have to say I'll watch this only for Saint. I have no interest in any of the others, the story is a complete mess, the editing is painful, there's no soundtrack to remember - but Saint being just that tiny bit aggressive is a great hook. And I hope the producers of the second season of LbC feel the pain of not having him (and I won't be watching that season, either.)

After that... In the improbable case that The Wolf actually starts (I'm testing my hypothesis that each time I mention...

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After that... In the improbable case that The Wolf actually starts (I'm testing my hypothesis that each time I mention this drama, it gets some new strange push back on being aired), I'll be watching that. If not, I'll probably try darting at drama titles, lol. See what I hit.

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Mr Fox and Miss Rose - a c-drama that was very entertaining in its first two-thirds (etc)

The title went down an internet black hole for some reason....

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Forest of Secrets/Stranger 2: Really wish Netflix kept the name Forest of Secrets or Secret Forest. The first episode was slower than I anticipated, but the second episode picked up some steam and drew me in. The topic of the turf war between police and prosecutors seems like a really dry subject, but the drama really knows how to draw me in.

The Plough Department of Song dynasty Historical/investigation web cdrama. Finished it. It was fun and I enjoyed the characters. Seemed like there's a setup for a sequel but not sure if the sequel will happen.

Crash Landing on You: Drama knows how to keep up the fun and humor! Seri's expanding wardrobe in North Korea is confusing to me. Anyone know if these clothes she wears in North Korea are designer clothes?

Hey Anna! Let's Eat!: 5 mini episode web series. I think I expected too much for what totals to be about an hour of content. But I don't think the writer used that limited time well either. That content could have been distilled into a 6 minute extended music video and it would have still told the story.

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FoS2/Stranger2: carrying huge pressure from S1. It does a good job of showing where the old characters are after two years, introducing new one and setting up new conflict while packing so much information. I know small details would become more important later on. As with Season 1, I have to pay attention to the dialogue and subtle expression to do my own investigation and it's the charm of Stranger. Just happy to see my beloved characters and excited to get to know the new one.

Hospital Playlists: I am at E3, kinda like it but I don't eagerly want to play the next episode. Possibly the problem is me not the drama as I don't feel connected to any of the patient sad stories. I just want their parts to end quickly so that we can see the gang. My brain can't process any of the medical terms especially English is my second language. I enjoy when the friends together but part of me don't believe 40 something, good looking and successful would stay single long in that environment. Overall so far it's a feel good drama but unbelievably sweet sometimes. I heard it picks up the space later on so I will continue.

Hanzawa Naoki: I am curious about this show because It had highest rating in Japan and season 2 is showing. I am a big fan of Japanese animation and anime but this one is too over the top, overly dramatic acting (it equals bad acting to me) with cartoonish characters. This type of exaggeration works in anime but just weird in a show about banking. Do most of Jdrama have the same type? I dragged myself to finish it and doubt I would check out season 2.

The Bureau (Le Bureau des Légendes) S5: finished final season and I can’t express how much I love this show. The show is about French secret service and its mission around the world. My favorite spy/thriller and the top tv shows ever. During its run of 5 season, never once it dropped in quality. Excellent in all aspects, acting, production value, intelligent writing with intricate plots that focus on the character and give insights on how intelligent service works.

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I felt the same for Hospital Playlist, actually there were so many cases that one didn't feel connected to any of them. But rest assured, things get better with onwards ep 4 because they focus more on the friends and lovelines. I think HP was an average med drama but a great slice of life and friendship drama (but I haven't seen many med dramas to call it average also i don't like that genre). The lovelines and friendship will soon cone into play and keep you invested.

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Watching C drama My Fair Princess
ReWatched K movie A Taxi Driver with wife.

Watched T movie Stray Dogs

Watched Ukrainian movie Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors
I liked the costumes in this film.

Watched Viva Riva! a Congolese crime thriller film. Good action flick. Riva steals a load a fuel and intends to reap a huge profit selling it in the neighboring country. A local gangster’s girlfriend catches his eye and he captures her heart.
There aren’t any saints involved in fuel smuggling it seems, so no tears will be shed when folks get whacked. Enjoyed it.

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On my bad news only: I temporarily (or indefinitely as possible) dropped Flower of Evil after only five episodes.

On my good news this week:
- Graceful Friends: Still a great episodes this week and a good casting.
- Was It Love: I still made fun because of some hilarious a bit. More funny that I watched, the casting still a great job.
- Train (my overall for this show: 9/10): It was one of my best shows from 2020 aside from IOTNBO and Itaewon Class. All the best episodes due to excellent cinematography and action scenes. Kudos to this most action team!

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I am watching Flower of Evil and The Good Detective. Great shows! Talented actors! Has anyone tried SF8? I watched the first 2 episodes and I am really impressed......

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CHIEF KIM just gets better and better. This is the drama that made me a fan of Junho. I loved to watch him eat. Enjoy the shenanigans of TQ Psycho and Gluttonous Sociopath! 😄

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Oops, this was supposed to be in reply to @eazal’s post.

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I hear, I hear!!!

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Dramas I started watching...

Shopping King Louie... I haven't laughed so hard in the first 10 minutes in my entire life... the whole chase scene because he doesn't wanna drink the tea. lmfao. and then them falling in such an awkward position. oh my gosh. hilarious.

1% of Something/Anything - The main FL is great. Putting the ML in his place immediately and not taking his bs. Love it. I also do love the ML, he isn't the typical stubborn a-hole you want to slap for being a douche from the get go... i mean he is stubborn and kind of a butt wipe, but in a not so ugh way... if that makes any sense.

Lie to Me - The pilot was very solid and I already love the main couple. I'm excited to watch more and see them grow closer and eventually get together.

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