Premiere Watch: Your House Helper, Mr. Sunshine
by girlfriday
It feels like we’ve been waiting forever for Mr. Sunshine to premiere, which isn’t an exaggeration this time—it’s been over a year since the project was first announced, which is eons in dramaland. Thankfully we’re less than a week away from finally satisfying our curiosity. It’d better be one hell of an epic premiere to make up for the wait! No pressure or anything!
Your House Helper
Time slot: Wednesday & Thursday
Broadcaster: KBS
Genre: Romance
Episode count: 32 (half-hour episodes, 16 hours in total)
Reasons to watch: This will probably be an underdog drama, but it looks breezy and light, and very easy on the eyes. Ha Suk-jin stars in the healing drama about a pretty flower boy housekeeper who gets hired to clean your house but ends up cleaning up your life in the process. It’s based on a webtoon, but since that’s an omnibus series with a rotating door of clients for the housekeeper, I’m not sure what to expect in terms of an overarching plot. Coming from the PD of the sweet, uplifting Strongest Deliveryman and one of the junior writers of The Producers, I think we’re in for sweet romance and adult coming-of-age. Oh, and lots and lots of house-tidying. Is there a cleaning equivalent of food porn? Because I think that’s what we’re getting. Vicarious cleaning has never been my thing, but maybe it’ll inspire me to clean my house? It doesn’t hurt to try.
Mr. Sunshine
Time slot: Saturday & Sunday
Broadcaster: tvN
Genre: Historical, romance
Episode count: 24
Reasons to watch: Star writer Kim Eun-sook is back with a new drama and is once again teaming up with PD Lee Eung-bok, who directed her last two mega-hits, The Lonely Shining Goblin and Descended From the Sun. So it’s really not an understatement to say that expectations are through the roof for their third collaboration, a period drama that takes place at the turn of the 20th century and at the cusp of the Japanese occupation. Lee Byung-heon headlines as an American officer stationed in Korea, who will fall in love with an aristocrat’s daughter (Kim Tae-ri) and end up fighting for his homeland for which he had no previous allegiance. It’s life-and-death stakes, country and honor, and once-in-a-lifetime love amidst a backdrop of war. I expect to cry through two boxes of tissues by the time the show is over, and will accept nothing less.
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1 Kudo Ran
July 2, 2018 at 8:03 AM
Ha Suk Jin + "sweet romance and adult coming-of-age"
Assa~ :D !!!
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2 WishfulToki
July 2, 2018 at 8:08 AM
Both dramas on my list! Perfect contrasting styles.
Also, cleaning house is very attractive. Ji Ho fell for Se He watching him take out the recycling.
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3 blnmom
July 2, 2018 at 8:09 AM
A drama that will make me want to clean?
I'm up for that.
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goldenaddiction
July 3, 2018 at 6:49 AM
Yes! Maybe my Mom will finally think that K-Dramas can have a positive influence hahaha
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javinne
July 3, 2018 at 2:16 PM
LOL!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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diyaa
July 4, 2018 at 6:24 AM
count me in.pls give me the motivation and yes @goldenaddiction maybe my husband will think the same lol
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4 callie
July 2, 2018 at 8:31 AM
That Mr. Sunshine poster is both hilarious and terrible 😲 lol
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Kudo Ran
July 2, 2018 at 8:35 AM
I can't help thinking of "hand lotion" after the post on the fanwall, I can't see this drama in a serious way anymore x)
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fencejumper
July 2, 2018 at 9:05 AM
Same! 😂
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Amilia
July 3, 2018 at 7:22 AM
Link? I don't get over to the fanwall as often as I'd like and I missed that.
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Kudo Ran
July 3, 2018 at 8:45 AM
it's on @outofthisworld 's wall
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callie
July 3, 2018 at 9:08 AM
😂 the behind the scenes photo makes it even funnier omg
Amilia
July 3, 2018 at 12:50 PM
Thank you!!!!
bbstl 🧹
July 2, 2018 at 1:32 PM
That's . . . not their real poster, right???
It's so many kinds of wrong, I can't stop looking at it 😬
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egads
July 2, 2018 at 1:37 PM
Graphic designers everywhere are shuddering in horror. It's bad, it's real bad.
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Mani-chan
July 3, 2018 at 8:44 AM
I'm teenager and looking at it I think that some of my friends who are into photography and graphic designing would have done much better
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 9:51 AM
Oh, for sure! There's no question. 👍🏼
tonal
July 3, 2018 at 11:24 AM
Oh gaaaawwwd...that poster is awful! Why would they do this? They couldn't afford a graphic designer with their ₩40 billion budget? *shudders*
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5 fencejumper
July 2, 2018 at 9:05 AM
I'm in for both but I'm not sure whether I'll be with it for the long haul.
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6 Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
July 2, 2018 at 9:12 AM
Am I the only beanie who thinks of the "Rising Sun" Japanese flag when they think about the title Mr. Sunshine? I need to get that out of my head!
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greenfields
July 2, 2018 at 9:51 AM
Very nice catch. I'm now curious about whether the title is "Mr. Sunshine" in Korean as well and whether that has the same meaning/connotation in Korean
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Kudo Ran
July 2, 2018 at 10:11 AM
the title is the same in Korean "Mr. Sunshine" , someone posted it in the previous drama news post.
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WishfulToki
July 2, 2018 at 10:26 AM
Yeah. Miseuteo Sheonshain.
Maybe it refers to his US identity, since it's in English and he grew up in California, The Golden State? Would be even better if he ended up in Florida...*grasping at straws here*
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WishfulToki
July 2, 2018 at 12:00 PM
On further thought the title could refer to his double identity: it's in English but the sun is an important symbol for Koreans (at least in KES dramas - DOTS for instance). I'd really like this to be a drama with a character who struggled to survive in two very different cultures, with Korean heritage but who grew up as an immigrant in the USA. Very topical.
WishfulToki
July 2, 2018 at 9:52 AM
No, me too and it's all wrong!
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Elin
September 9, 2018 at 10:56 PM
Noop! Sunshine is too much for the Japanese flag.
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7 FritzB
July 2, 2018 at 9:16 AM
I'm all in for Mr. Sunshine. I read that the production budget was something like ₩40 billion! The stills and teasers have looked fantastic, worthy of any movie.
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kabsy
July 2, 2018 at 10:57 AM
Yeah it has the biggest budget for a Kdrama ever I read. I wonder how they got the money with no PPL 🤔
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8 blnmom
July 2, 2018 at 9:52 AM
Just noticed that the vacuum is not a Dyson. They're on every other drama, why would they not sponsor a cleaning drama? Missed opportunity.
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V
July 2, 2018 at 11:52 AM
Maybe they will switch to a Dyson half way through once they secure a sponsorship. Or maybe LG is on the come-up, I heard they have a Dyson knockoff that is really good. Better than the original if you can believe that.
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9 risa
July 2, 2018 at 10:06 AM
If I had a housekeeper who looked (and sounded!) like Ha Seok-jin, who cleaned up not only my house, but my life, he would be my Mr. Sunshine!
I'm so glad that we're getting a light, healing drama to help us recuperate from the heart-wrenching watch that Mr. Sunshine is sure to be.
I see that Mr. Sunshine has been added to the "currently recapping" list-- no surprise there, but I don't take recaps for granted anymore, so thanks for recapping it! It's the kind of ride that should be shared!
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10 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 2, 2018 at 10:09 AM
One couple is inhaling the scent of freshly washed bed sheet and another is raising the stink.
Choose the Perfect Partner - Your House Helper.
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FD
July 2, 2018 at 10:27 PM
There is a 13 year age gap in House Helper as well. Not very far from the 20 year age gap.
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Flightey Gazelles
July 4, 2018 at 4:07 AM
bwahahaha!!!
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11 CatoCat Drama Kun
July 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM
It seems lime You House Helper's concept is taken from Japanese Drama whose 2nd season aired several months ago.
Mr. Sunshine is the show to look after. Posters are good and story gives off the vibe of something important. I hope it won't devolved into cliche kdrama atmosphere because this show has in it beat any other popular kdrama out there.
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12 Wise
July 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM
To be honest, kim eun sook's pieces were never on my favorite drama list. I kind of feel her dramas are overrated and maintain to achieved high ratings because of the pd works (his direction absolutely beautiful) and beautiful actors. When news about me sunshine comes out i have no excitement at all. But suddenly, yo yeon sok and byun yo han confirmed to work in it. How can i resist to not watch them? And when i watch the highlight i could feel their hardwork and totality to potraying they role. Yo yeon sok holding a sword and byun yo han playing a melancoly playboy are enough for me to watch this show. Hopefully this time her drama will live up the hype.
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amara
July 2, 2018 at 1:18 PM
wow im miserable bc i def wont be watching but i love them too ;—;
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Wise
July 2, 2018 at 7:19 PM
Let us just give it a try. Yo yeon sok look so legit there. I hold my breath when i watching him in the highlight.
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RenOIshi
July 2, 2018 at 2:32 PM
You know what? I totally agree with you! The only reason I watched Goblin and DOTS was due to the hype. If it wasn’t for Gong Woo I would have dropped Goblin many many episodes ago.
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suk
July 2, 2018 at 3:32 PM
Finally, someone who thought Goblin wasn't that good! DOTS may not have been worth the hype, but it was a solid drama. When Goblin suddenly became the hit drama that it was, I was so confused at first. Now, all I remember from Goblin is the slow-motion flashback of Kim Go Eun running toward Gong Yoo that they overplayed too much. The romance was not very believable either, but the director did a good job with the cinematography.
I feel like Mr. Sunshine will be the same, in that it will just be a really beautiful drama, but might be lacking in some of the writing. The fact that the drama will be premiering on Netflix also raises questions about whether or not it will be worth the inevitable hype. Crossing my fingers for a good drama though!
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RenOIshi
July 2, 2018 at 3:39 PM
Agree with you totally. The age gap in Goblin totally eeked me out!!! I cringed everytime GE would say ‘saranghe Ahjusshi’! Gah! I was more interested in the Grim Reapers romance.
DOTS was better writing wise but still was just a one time watch for me. You are quite right in your assumption that Mr Sunshine probably will have some writing flaws but I am waiting to find out myself :)
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Wise
July 2, 2018 at 7:14 PM
Im okay actually with the age gap which is actually ridiculous (i mean like 900 years), but what i didnt like was KGE start chasing and living with him when she just barely 20 y.o. Like, why? And they meet again 10 years later. I dont understand why the goblin live again immortal when he had no sword on him. And actually the whole drama were about funny fight and bickering. Its fun to watch but, yeah, not that great.
Wise
July 2, 2018 at 7:17 PM
I confused to about all the hype, but i have to admit the cinematography was great and the best that year.
What is suspicious about drama that will be premieringbon netflix? Just curious.
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suk
July 2, 2018 at 10:04 PM
Well, you have a point that there really isn't that much wrong with putting a show on Netflix. I just feel like they're purposely overmarketing the drama.
Nam Joo-hyuk is Tall
July 3, 2018 at 12:30 AM
KES comes up with great premises and main characters on paper, but her stories rely on a lot of romantic cliches, drama for drama's sake, and she has really messy narrative threads. I'm not a big fan.
I finished Goblin for Gong Yoo, the bromance, and Sunny and Reaper. I fast forwarded through every scene of the main couple and that is the only reason I found it to be a decent drama.
I think I'm the only Beanie alive who didn't finish DFTS--I just didn't like it that much, even after 6 episodes. Felt like I was on a life raft and couldn't find a plot threat to hold on to.
I cannot find any desire to watch Mr. Sunshine. But I am excited to read all the beanie posts on the wall about it!
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 3, 2018 at 12:39 AM
"I think I'm the only Beanie alive who didn't finish DFTS-"
eh....I may have turned green from watching too many lacklustre dramas but I am pretty much alive. Only 'almost' casualty were my eyeballs which dived off the cliff in DOTS but miraculously rolled back into their sockets.
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oppafangirl
July 3, 2018 at 8:24 AM
*raises hand*
I am not a ghost yet!! And i did not get past 4th episode of DOTS.
*hi out of the world, nice to see you here again !! I would have guessed we would be in this league together as well !*
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Wise
July 3, 2018 at 1:31 AM
"KES comes up with great premises and main characters on paper, but her stories rely on a lot of romantic cliches, drama for drama's sake ..."
Couldnt agree more.
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HANI
July 3, 2018 at 2:32 AM
I felt like many did the same thing with Goblin tbh. Her dramas follows the same formula since ages ago. KES+LEB pd makes it so shiny and pretty but if you take a step back, you realize finding its plot requires a shovel. It was tiny and got buried under all those blings
XD
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miss h
July 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM
Fellow Beanie here who did not finish DOTS. I think I made it 6 episodes before I was like "I just can't." The thing is I'm not opposed to cheese, pretty people, romantic clichés, overly dramatic plot twists that make me lol. Sometimes I eat that stuff up. Just not in KES dramas for whatever reason.
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tonal
July 3, 2018 at 11:19 AM
Totally agree! I also just eat that stuff up if done right but never in her dramas!! I've never finished any of her dramas...started most of them and got through a couple episodes... They are a treat for the eyes and ears but that's doesn't keep them from hurting the part of my brain that does complex thinking and reasoning.
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Barbrey
July 5, 2018 at 6:29 AM
Nope, I didn't finish Dots or Goblin either. Hardly anything happened each episode - pretty cinematography and actors only go so far with me, I need some plot suspense to keep me going and I was frankly bored. So the writer for Mr Sunshine is a negative not a positive, though I am attracted to the plot outline. The thing is both those former dramas were blockbusters so I doubt the writer will have been encouraged to pick up her plotting or pacing for the outliers like us who found them boring. I expect more of the same for Mr Sunshine but will give it a try anyway.
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13 Min
July 2, 2018 at 11:21 AM
The housekeeping one i'll probably watch Mr. Sunshine i will definitely skip. Cannot stand LBH he seems so smarmy all the time.
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vongole
July 2, 2018 at 8:52 PM
Hear hear!
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14 V
July 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM
Definitely checking out both. I feel bad for any show that is up against Mr. Sunshine, though. I feel like it will take all the ratings in Korea.
I hope it becomes an international mega hit. I was on a Kdrama break when Descended and Goblin came out so I missed out on all the super big obsessive live watch fun!
If this one isn't a hit, then hopefully Memories of Alhambria is. I just want to be in the live watch mood for whatever hit there is. Hwayugi live watch was a lot of fun, but it wasn't a super big crazy international hit.
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bbstl 🧹
July 2, 2018 at 1:19 PM
🤞🏽aw, that would be nice for Alhambra. I'd love Hyun Bin to be in the middle of a mega-hit ❤️
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15 Ally
July 2, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Goblin’s premier was surpassed expectations, so I wouldn’t expect any less with Mr. Sunshine with the biggest budget in the history of kdramas.
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16 saphia
July 2, 2018 at 12:15 PM
I'm looking forward to Mr Sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the main actor, I've seen him in quite a few hollywood movies, and I love Kdramas. So to see them two out together like this makes me super excited!
And the person who made Goblin AND descendants on the sun is making this. Super high expectations.
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17 amara
July 2, 2018 at 1:17 PM
i’m excited to maybe catch ha suk jin’s bc i like him for some odd reason even though i dont know much from him but 1% of anything which is one of the worst things i’ve ever watched. there r some underdog dramas from kbs that i honestly love (suspicious partners!!!) so.
also: i’m....lol. i hated goblin (i couldnt concentrate because of the horrid age gap) and lee byung hun is atrocious and it SUCKS because kim tae ri is such a fucking force. i hope she gets a lot more work and ones that i can watch because shes so incredible. i am wondering if the show will end up being more nationalist leaning, which would be a concern for me if i was going to watch it buuuut im not. i hope people enjoy her though shes so *_*
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Meeko
July 2, 2018 at 7:03 PM
Ha Sukjin and Bona has like 13 years age gap though...that's more than Gong Yoo and Kim Goeun.....don't know if i will feel comfortable watching them unless they have no love line.
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amara
July 2, 2018 at 7:30 PM
Oh wow....I lit have no clue who she is but YIKES
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Barbrey
July 5, 2018 at 6:39 AM
I'm not too disturbed by age gaps but maturity gaps can be cringeworthy - please no high school students and middle aged adults, that kind of thing. If she's 25 and He's 38, no problem at all, but if she's 17 and he's 30, in real life I'd be wondering what was wrong with both of them and it ruins my drama experience.
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18 C0reen
July 2, 2018 at 2:48 PM
So many people complained about the big age gap in My Mister before the drama started, but I can see (almost) no complaints about the one in Mr. Sunshine. Hypocrisy is real.
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bbstl 🧹
July 2, 2018 at 3:08 PM
Like girlfriday said, we've been talking about Mr Sunshine for a year and I think nearly everyone got the complaints out of our systems over that time. A lot of people don't like LBH, either, so there have been plenty of objections to him as well.
But probably once we see them together there will be oodles of new comments about the age gap, just hold on.
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C0reen
July 6, 2018 at 11:11 AM
I was more talking about knetz, not about the international fans. And I can't remember that Goblin got that kind of backslash back then.
I personally don't mind a big age gap when both characters are responsible adults, but KSE proofed with her last drama that she can't write those well. The main couple made even me hella uncomfortable (the immature female lead being the main problem, aging her up a bit or making her more mature would've helped a lot).
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fay17
July 2, 2018 at 3:42 PM
The age gap doesn't bother me tbh, and it didn't of course in My Mister. Just that it's Lee Santa lol, from the poster and from the already released stills, I am quite certain that I won't be invested in the OTP.
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19 Chandler
July 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM
So I guess KBS is officially doing the split episode thing, huh? Took me a while to realize they did it with Are You Human Too? because I watch on dramafever. It's such a bummer because even though I believe that them airing more of my favorite dramas in 2017 than SBS or MBC is still because of the overall quality of those dramas, I also suspect that them keeping the standard hour-long format really made for, well, more memorable episodes.
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V
July 2, 2018 at 4:20 PM
There is some law in Korea that keeps you from putting Commercials inside TV shows. So stations are trying to do the half hour TV shows to kind of circumvent that. It will be so funny (in a hilarious and sad way) if they start making 20 minutes episodes and then 15 minutes episodes until every episode is a 10 minutes web drama.
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Chandler
July 3, 2018 at 1:53 PM
Haha, oh no, I hope they never get to that point. I know of the reasoning behind all this, but KBS was doing so good holding out against this ridiculousness.
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V
July 4, 2018 at 3:01 AM
I was so happy that they were holding strong too. But another one bites the dust.
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20 SnarkyKitsune
July 2, 2018 at 4:11 PM
Hmmnn...Will you not be recapping Your House Helper? T_T
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V
July 2, 2018 at 4:21 PM
Maybe they are holding out to recap LIFE at the end of the month.
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21 adieunoire
July 2, 2018 at 4:43 PM
I’ll be watching Mr. Sunshine but only for Yoo Yeon Suk and Byun Yo Han. The age gap between the leads seriously erks me out. He looks like her dad to me.
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Endo
July 3, 2018 at 11:10 AM
Here we go again with age difference. As if LBH and KTR will hook up in real life. LOL.
How come no one reacted when when Kim Yoo Jung who was underage during moonlight doing kiss scenes with adult Park Bo Gum? Why because the age gap is not so much?
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 4:25 PM
People totally freaked out then, too.
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adieunoire
July 4, 2018 at 7:50 AM
Moonlight didn’t bother me because it wasn’t as large. As I said before, he looks like her father! What is it, 20 years age difference? Bleh.
Yes people totally did freak out then. But it was a very innocence drama and only 2 kisses? I couldn’t even watch Mirror of the Witch with my baby YSY because of the age difference.
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adieunoire
July 4, 2018 at 7:52 AM
It doesn’t matter if they hook up in real life. That’s not even what crosses my mind. It totally ruins the immersion for me.
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22 panshel
July 2, 2018 at 7:57 PM
The ratings for Mr. Sunshine's premiere are going to be HUGE. What's Wrong with Secretary Kim also on tvN is already pulling over 8%.
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23 YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
July 2, 2018 at 8:01 PM
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24 Fanboy
July 2, 2018 at 10:19 PM
Not really up for the hype . Part of me wishing for not a mega hit ratings because i want jo seung woo's Life be the main with steady ratings.
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25 tonal
July 2, 2018 at 10:54 PM
As a linguist one of my favourite things to do while watching dramas is to pay attention to what dialect of Korean each character is using and I've been watching dramas long enough that I can spot certain sounds, words, intonation patterns, or ways of conjugating verbs that are specific to different dialects. Of course this I can't always spot them as I've never formally studied Korean but it's very easy for English as I've been using it for most of my life. So a thing that takes me right out of a show is when characters have lived abroad (usually in English speaking countries) but their language accent and style don't match how the language is actually spoken in that particular foreign country. Since dramas have such a short turnover cycle, there might not be enough time for the actors to learn the foreign accents. But for Mr. Sunshine, with it's enormous budget, I wonder how much attention will be paid to getting the language to be accurately represented. Not only the accent but also the things like sentence structure and word choice. Especially for the hero who's lived in an English-speaking country since he was a child... what will his English be like, which dialect of North American English will they use in the show. This applies to his Korean as well... will he speak it as someone not used to speaking Korean on a regular basis, will he have an English accent while speaking Korean, etc...
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 6:52 AM
Fascinating! Doesn't it drive you insane when characters supposedly have grow up in America with American families but come back speaking perfect Korean (and often little English)? 😂
Please report back on your findings!
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WishfulToki
July 3, 2018 at 8:37 AM
Oh yes! I'll be looking out for this as well. The only drama that I remember addressing the language issue a tiny bit was Flower Boy Next Door: Enrique grows up in Spain, and when he comes back he proudly asks if they think his Korean is good, explaining that his mom spoke to him in Korean.
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 9:48 AM
@tonal, @wishfultoki
My Korean teacher told me that Korean changes so fast with inputs from other languages and fast-moving slang that if you don't go back constantly, your Korean marks you as a "visitor from another time". And, you take a LOT of grief, or at least notice, for that. Of course she is also a linguist so she would notice.
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tonal
July 3, 2018 at 9:59 AM
It is definitely possible to still have a native-like language use if you regularly use the language with someone who is a native speaker of the language even if you've lived in an environment where the majority language isn't your native language. But if you've heavily integrated the majority culture and language into your life while living abroad, the language patterns of that majority language start to seep into the native language, be it the word order when forming sentences, using direct translations of majority language words instead of what would be used in the native language (which is why the subs feel off sometimes), or even not being able to produce certain sounds in the native language because the majority language doesn't have that particular sound in its inventory so they never quite learned how to produce those native language sounds (which is how we can tell that someone's speaking with a different accent).
I still haven't decided if I'm going to watch this show but I'll definitely check out the first episode to see if it's worth continuing. I couldn't get through more than 3-4 episodes of this writer's previous dramas as well...
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persianrose❤️战哥
July 3, 2018 at 10:32 AM
"I couldn't get through more than 3-4 episodes of this writer's previous dramas"... Me too and I wonder why?! Her dramas usually have excellent production quality and high buzz and rating, but I guess I really dislike the way she writes her heroines, also the romance is too cheesy for my taste...
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tonal
July 3, 2018 at 11:06 AM
I find them incredibly cheesy, cringe-worthy, and so out-there, which isn't bad but just not my cup of tea. But I loved Waikiki and am currently loving Greasy Melo, which are also 'out-there', so I guess they have to be done in a specific way? I don't have to relate to characters but I do want the characters to believable and they should make me want to root for them. I also don't think so highly of romantic love so when I don't believe the characters, I don't believe their love and all the gestures they do to show their love for each other just become cringy and sometimes laughable. I do really like some aspects of her shows but they're just not enough to keep me invested. Plus, there are wrist grabs and other assorted gestures that are just uncomfortable...I used to be like 'Oh, I'll just ignore this scene' but now it has become hard to ignore those scenes.
🍭liquidsoap🏳️🌈
July 6, 2018 at 11:51 AM
bless, tonal. exactly my issues as well. she can't write romance at all in my book.
bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 6:14 PM
@tonal, @wishfultoki
You may be interested in this excerpt from tonight's PBS Newshour featuring linguist Hernan Diaz of Columbia University, about accents.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1014289519657406464
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Peridot
July 4, 2018 at 6:49 AM
Thank you for this! I wrote something along similar lines in the last post for Mr. Sunshine. In that post, I asked if the show would address language issues and culture differences. If we talk the lead of Mr. Sunshine, for example, he leaves Korea between the ages of 7 and 9 (I don't remember which number was given in the descriptions). America becomes his homeland. He might speak English with a lingering accent, but I would expect English to become his dominant language (affecting how he thinks, behaves, etc.). His Korean would be stuck at the level he had when he left, and it wouldn't change unless he was somehow able to keep in contact with other Koreans. He does not return to Korea until much later in life, so his Korean would not have evolved with the changing times. He might be able to pick up a lot after spending time there, but if he has not really been using his mother tongue at all, there would be a real struggle. I went into extra detail in my original post, so if you want to, you can check what I wrote.
I love your post, because you and I are thinking along similar lines. I am always looking at how language and cultural differences are handled (or not, as is usually the case).
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Peridot
July 4, 2018 at 6:55 AM
Here is the thread for my original comment (#51):
http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/06/the-epic-battle-for-joseon-in-tvns-mr-sunshine/comment-page-2/#comment-3260699
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Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
July 4, 2018 at 6:59 AM
Great post, but I have 2 comments:
1) Eugene may not allow America to influence him as much as we think because there was a lot of racism in America during this period.
2) We may learn that Eugene was raised by Koreans living in America, which would allow his usage of the Korean language to continue to a state of fluency.
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Peridot
July 4, 2018 at 7:09 AM
1. Yes, the racial issue will be important. Despite his experiences, he still might hold onto the belief that he is a true American. His resentments toward and bad memories of his homeland might at least make him identify as an American.
2. Even if raised by Koreans, he still might struggle with the language in different ways. Will he receive a formal Korean-language education? Would the people raising him be literate? Even if they would be literate, the reality is that the language back in the homeland will be constantly evolving. So, Eugene might very well be able to communicate with others, but I would expect there to be differences between his Korean and the Korean of those who never left. Even his intonations might be different.
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bbstl 🧹
July 4, 2018 at 5:22 PM
Isn't he in the American Army/Marines?
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Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
July 4, 2018 at 5:26 PM
Yes,after he is taken to America as a child, he joins the US Marines when he gets older.
26 HANI
July 3, 2018 at 2:20 AM
Not trying to be ageist but Ha Suk Jin is a tad too old for that 'adult coming of age' tag no? Unless that one is for the heroine which I guess this one also has a huge age gap between leads?
I having a hard time sticking to a drama but this 2 also didnt excite me.... which I guess I should just go back to my webtoons
haha
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WishfulToki
July 3, 2018 at 4:31 PM
I didn't think of Ha Suk Jin as a "flower boy".
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27 Dorotka
July 3, 2018 at 4:10 AM
I'm more excited for Helper than Sunshine... actually wanted to skip Sunshine as I'm not much of a fan of the writer (I admit I did enjoy Secret Garden though 🙂 despite its limits)... but that time period is very interesting... plus Yoo Yeonseok and Byun Yohan 😍😍😍
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28 callie
July 3, 2018 at 9:05 AM
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29 Alessar
July 3, 2018 at 9:45 AM
Soooo .... Yoo Yeon Seok is in this show and he posted a teaser photo of the cast and I was blown away but this stupendously hot Japanese bandit/ronin looking dude in the photo with scruffy bear, thin moustache, tousled bangs almost over his eyes and then I very, very slowly realized ... it was him.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkm_LZmjkbu/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17k8990m7eqj1
and then I was like, "No, this hotness must be a fluke" so he doubled down with a black & white close up
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkrsA5dDgrC/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=h7skbu48huz4
Like, DAMN boy. You may have found your Hot Look.
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silentbeluga
July 3, 2018 at 5:44 PM
A-freaking-men. I want to have a really smart, really well thought-out reason to watch this drama because they are so many interesting, profound and topical themes being explored BUT really, if I'm 100% honest, hot Yoo Yeon-Seok is the main reason I'll be tuning in.
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Barbrey
July 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM
Thanks for sharing! He looks super with the more scruffy look. Actually, maybe it's my age but most kdrama heroes look so overly groomed to me it takes away from their sexiness sometimes.
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30 Endo
July 3, 2018 at 11:05 AM
" Is there a cleaning equivalent of food porn? "
I think there is, i'm following a lot of instagram accounts that posts about cleaning and organizing stuff and guess what? they're mostly koreans and japanese.
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 4:31 PM
There's a TON on Pinterest, I learned by accident 🤣
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31 javinne
July 3, 2018 at 2:19 PM
Oh no... Otokke??? I like them both!!!! But I need to start swimming again. I need to lose weight, and my doctor order 50 physiotherapy gymnastics sessions for me.... what will I do??????????😱😱😱😱😱
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bbstl 🧹
July 3, 2018 at 4:36 PM
Physiotherapy gymnastics??? We don't have that in the States 😮 We have Physical Therapy after an injury, OR gymnastics when you're young, tiny and incredibly agile! But either way, you couldn't watch drama while doing them ☹️
Treadmill? Stationery bicycle? Elliptical/stepper?
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javinne
July 3, 2018 at 9:50 PM
I also don't know how it is, because I haven't started. But I have heard the social system here pays even some kind of gymnastics in order to prevent more damage to the joints. I get confused with the name of things in German and possibly I am not translating good into English. But I will find out better and comment about it😀
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bbstl 🧹
July 5, 2018 at 8:18 AM
It sounds good, whatever it is!🤸🏽♂️
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🍭liquidsoap🏳️🌈
July 6, 2018 at 11:50 AM
we have aqua-aerobics, probably the same thing
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32 newgirl
July 3, 2018 at 6:47 PM
@javabeans & @girlfriday, I sincerely hope one of you two will be recapping Mr. Sunshine. Come back to recapping for this; we beanies need your expertise!
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33 RoseRedFern
July 4, 2018 at 8:58 AM
Mr Sunshine is on Netflix in Canada. Your House helper is on Viki. Thank you streaming gods.
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34 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 4, 2018 at 11:48 PM
A new Kim Eun-sook drama.
Bring me out of hiding when it's over.
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35 Shorebunny
July 5, 2018 at 12:56 AM
Lee Byun Heon has been the man for me since 2002 when all of Korea and Japan was crazy for Korean Harry Potter looking Joon sama so it's fabulous to see him older wiser and sexier.!lol
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36 🍭liquidsoap🏳️🌈
July 6, 2018 at 11:48 AM
Kim Eun-sook.... yup, skipping it with no regrets
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37 wingedswan
July 7, 2018 at 9:34 PM
I'm so unsure as to if I should watch Mr. sunshine, I loved Goblin because it was both funny and serious. And had an intricate fantasy storyline, this drama just looks as if serious and depressing had a baby and I am never in a mood for dramas like that no matter how critically acclaimed, kinda like My Ajusshi, I don't really choose to suffer lol I can't get past the depressing feel of a show it just makes me feel like crap.
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