Kim Tae Hee's teeth actually made her look very cute. Joy also looks cute with her smile. I think that's her charm.

I see comments about how unnatural her smile is, but if you watch her in interviews with Lee Hyun Woo or Red Velvet, that's pretty much how she smiles... and what a pretty smile it is! I honestly think it's her best feature but to each their own I guess?

Ikr? I've been dragged into kpop for almost a year, almost against my will. [Long story short, my serious boyfriend is Korean and I have been learning korean for almost two years because of his family. That's when I found out about hallyu, watched the reality shows of a few boy groups and never found the exit.]
Never had the urge of going into korean dramas even though I was told the fanbase there would match my age more and be more mature than the mess that is kpop fandom. I tried a popular korean drama once, apparently a huge success at home and overseas, but it was too soap for me.
I'm giving them another try because of Joy... but what I've seen of the comments on this site [I'm told is the main korean dramas blog for fans] is not giving me a very good image of the drama fanbase. You know it's a bad sign when comments on here are worse, more ungenerous and more vitriolic than comments on youtube, Naver, Nate or even Pann.

After being told the drama audience is more mature and thoughtful for so many months, and being looked down on by the real-life Koreans when I told them I liked kpop because it's apparently for young... so immature brats... I'm feeling quite wronged seeing how full of prejudice the superficial comments are(criticism for the way she's smiling, really?). Attacking a barely adult girl without giving her a chance... how is that less low than kpop. At least, there, there's no pretense for thoughtfulness or maturity.

I asked around for advice about how best to watch my first korean drama. I like to be thorough when I commit to something, as you can tell from the fact that I'm learning korean when dating a Korean. I want the full experience most of the time. After all that research, and being directed here and some other sites... I'm disappointed.

It's funny how the criticism on her voice, appearance and smiles on this blog are completely opposite to all the comments on Naver, the biggest Korean portal sites, and on Pann and Nate (notorious for netizens being critical) praising her voice, smile and appearance. Maybe this is the difference between film critics and just the pleb audience watching movies. But if being a knowing critic means seeing fault in something that brings enjoyment to most others like Joy's voice or smile, I'll pass on it. I loathe how immature the kpop fandom is as much as I like the groups. I was looking forward to experiencing another aspect of Hallyu that was more mature. How disappointing that maturity was just a code word for much of the same, just coated with more pretense.
Ciao.

Link 2 Vlive please?

He looks 10 years younger.. ?

Aesthetics might matter, but not as much as our dignity as human beings with some shred of decency. Our enjoyment of dramas should not be at the cost of our character. People using entertainment as an excuse to trash on celebrities' appearances, making posts pitting one actress against another in who wore it best, or Best and Worst list is part of the problem. It feels stuffing just to witness, I can't even imagine how it feels to be at the center of gossip. Gosh, I can't even with these comments.

You can't excuse the destructive comments just because their someone else's opinion though.

That was my first thought when I heard the casting news. Joy is known for her big head so when it's next to lee hyun woo's tiny face, it becomes even more plain to see. It's seriously look unbalanced, as you can see plainly in the trailers or here:

http://m.entertain.naver.com/entertain?id=1047153&imgId=49105811&host=http://m.entertain.naver.com&listUrl=http://m.naver.com#main/49105811

Casting her is a weird choice, and we can't even explain it with the usual "they look good together" or at least she's a beauty like with Kim tae hee, so that's why we're all questioning the legitimacy of it all.

I've read the manga too and I disagree. In the manga, she's petite, almost elfish, but Joi is almost a giant in comparison, and her features are big, especially her nose is huge, and so is her mouth. Doesn't suit.

There is a large difference between finding someone attractive and praising them for it, and then openly demeaning someone's appearance because you don't like how they look. Let's forget how unpleasant the atmosphere of the place is for a second, or how it makes the other person feel. Having this kind of attitude makes it unpleasant for yourself.
If people could open themselves to accept and get used to all sorts of appearances, rough, burnt, deformed, and find beauty in all, they will have a much more pleasant time. Your favorite flowers could be roses, but if we learn to find beauty in marguerites, and even in grass or algae, we'll have a much more pleasant and happy time walking around. We don't have to find them the prettiest, but learning not to find them unpleasant makes our lives better, and us a happier person.
My sister works with special-education children, and people who work there get used to how they are, and see them as people more than by how they look. When their class goes out, we can see some bystanders make disgusted faces... what they don't realize, is that their reaction limits their ability to explore people more deeply and see beauty in people. What they don't realize, is that my sister and her co-workers are having a happy time laughing with those wonderful children, when they, are having an unpleasant moment all by themselves, just by virtue of looking at people, just because they don't choose to see past superficial appearances.

Your soulmate waiting for you could be of a physique that is not your "rose," but if you've never even found time to see that a tulip has its own charm, or learned that Jasmine could smell wonderful, if you've only limited yourself to looking at roses, you'll miss out on your tulip or Jasmine soulmate.

Back to dramas, there are many side characters who aren't "roses" to us. They're not our favorite kind of appearances. But we still learn to like them, and watch them on screen and be entertained by them (like Sung Dong-il, Secretary in Goblin, Ma Dong Seok, etc.) so why not extend that to main characters too?

I might find Lee Min Jung the prettiest (she's my rose). But instead of finding Kim Go Eun unpretty, if only I start noticing how pretty and charming she is as a lavender, I'll have a much more pleasant time watching Goblin. And watching Lee Min Jung too, because if I Kim Go eun, who is not of my natural taste, pretty, then how much more of a pleasant time will I have looking at Lee Min Jung? :D

By just shifting your acceptance range a little bit, we'll find the drama watching experience much enhanced, and in life, we'll open ourselves to finding a lot more beautiful people, and begin seeing them beyond their surface. We're surrounded by people all our lives, perhaps we should all learn and actively work to see beauty in them, rather than be idle and let our taste remain static. Trust me, it's worth making an effort on our part to change. It'll...

Honestly... Joy may not read *these* comments specifically, but people who've followed her definitely know that she's read ugly comments about herself because they're all over Korean websites too. She's talked about being on a cucumber diet when she was 17 to lose weight! 17 years old! She's been fat shamed so much since her debut days. Plus she has also had her front teeth chiseled. We're talking about a 17/18 year old girl here who went through this shit for the sake of her appearance even though she was perfectly fine to begin with.

Maybe I'm more sensitive as that one commenter said as a Joy fan because I've seen her change over the course of 2 years. But I do agree with the general sentiment of your comment. These kind of opinionated comments can be so detrimental. They make me seriously uncomfortable as a bystander. I can't even imagine what it'd be like to be the center of such conversations.

As I read more comments, I have a feeling these commenters are fans of Lee Hyun-woo and thus the disgusting comments, because they feel that Joy isn't good enough for him or this role.

Either way, as both a long-time Beanie and a fan of Red Velvet and Joy, it's just disturbing. She's already had a difficult time with her weight and even fixed her teeth for this role, even if she's perfectly fine...Whether or not you feel she was miscast, why not wait until the first episode actually airs to judge her based on her acting? However, it almost seems like that's not really their concern in the first place.

no,
i have seen prettier girls !! so many of them on my campus
she is not pretty
sorry

and her singing is bad judging from the teasers and acting looks awkward

i think this drama will be a flop

"As humans, we all value the beautiful. It’s easy. The danger is when you believe the converse statement, that only beauty is valuable."

So wise.... it's easy to like the beautiful. It's so easy people then assume it is acceptable to dislike the not-so-beautiful for not being "beautiful" enough. It's a sad thinking for sure.

lol pple get offended @ anything these days. this is why I don't like idols going into acting. the fans make it 10x worse. their fans are just immature and unable to take any mild criticism. they get offended by anything.. it's really hard to talk to sensitive fans sensibly, they don't even want to hear you out and label you a "hater." It goes with the job to get criticized about your appearances. Grow up and deal with it.

let's be real, the only reason this drama has started is because of her brainwashed fans. if she wasn't popular, people wouldn't even bat an eye. they're all hypocrites, asking not to judge appearances. kim go eun got plenty of flak for not looking good enough, where were they? they only get offended because it's joy. smh.

I very much dislike it when the excuse "it's just an observation/opinion" to say mean hurtful things about someone's physical trait. We're not talking about a rock or a flower pot. It's an actual real person your making that observation about, who, unlike a flower pot, will have a reaction and feel some emotions in response to your observation. Please take that into consideration before throwing out observations so easily. The person on the other end of such observation might not find it as easy to receive it.

it tells a lot about a person when they hate people who defend a person getting body shamed more than the people who are body shaming the person.

hahaha. Forget criticism about one's appearance. Or even a critical reply. I get bothered just getting a thumbs down on comments I make. hahahaha