Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 4
by tineybeanie
The spotlight is once more on Amogae as he creates his own version of utopia in a new home. Despite the sorrow he feels at his wife’s death and his fear for his Mighty Child son’s life, he perseveres through these hardships with a steely inner strength. His clever wits and ambitious vision allows him to establish a stable life with his children that he could never dream of living before, but at what cost?
EPISODE 4 RECAP
On a frozen wintry day, Amogae kneels and drinks beside his wife’s burial mound. In his dreams, her specter comes to him and tells him not to sleep on the cold earth. He reaches for her and asks to stay with her, but she tells him that they’ll be together forever later, and that right now, he needs to return to the children. Gil-hyun and Gil-dong search for their father, who’s still with their mother. When they find him, they yell because they’re alarmed by his unmoving form, but he’s soon shaken awake.
Meanwhile, the cruel mistress of the house gets ready to move back to her family home, fearing the retribution of the current queen if she learns of her dead husband’s treachery. But her eyes are full of poison.
At the brothel, Secretary Eom and Amogae share drinks over dinner while discussing his astounding return from imprisonment and near-death. Amogae thanks Secretary Eom for all his help and reaffirms his promise to ensure that he rises to a high position.
Soon, Amogae’s family and their neighbor’s also get ready to move from their master’s household. Across woodlands and seaside cliffs, they journey to Ikhwari, a haven place for runaways, thieves, and generally people who have nothing to lose. Along the way, Gil-dong notices a pink bird following them, and believes it’s the spirit of his mother watching over them.
As we approach the village, we’re given a closer introduction to Soboori’s group of bandits. Yonggae, who we were introduced to earlier, sits on a boat until he sees a pretty woman walk by. He quickly stands up and practices his pickup lines before greeting her, but she’s already flirting with another man. His friend who corrects the rejected Yonggae on his table manners and etiquette is fallen nobleman SEGUL (Kim Do-yoon).
When they scheme together to cheat at poker, impious Buddhist monk ILCHUNG (Heo Jung-do) catches them in the middle of the act. Late at night, they all gather for a secret meeting at Amogae’s hut, and ordinary KEUTSAE (Lee Ho-chul) takes a final look out before closing the door.
The main purpose of the meeting is to discuss their next raid. Amogae wants to drink while they talk, but he’s quickly shot down by Soboori. The bandits argue between raiding Jangchung and Geummaljae, but Amogae suggests that they stop robbing and start their own business. Yonggae thinks that they’re not cut out for trade, but Amogae mentions Yonggae’s father, who was executed for being a thief, and that touches a nerve.
The entire room breaks out into a brawl, but after bloodying noses and bruising each other, they gather back in a circle. It seems like Amogae won the round because now there’s a large jug of alcohol in the middle of the room, and everyone defers to him.
He describes his plan to produce black linen (highly coveted by their Chinese neighbors), barter it with Chinese merchants for silk on the black market, and sell the silk legitimately to noblemen. He even offers to put up the initial capital for the production. At first, the whole black linen manufacturing line consists of two looms and two women, but soon that expands to four, and then many more.
As time passes, Gil-hyun continues learning his letters and Gil-dong teaches his sister to walk, but their father is no longer there for important family moments because he’s busy with his impending business.
When the night of their first black linen/Chinese silk transaction arrives, the men pile into a fishing boat with their goods hidden on board. They’re stopped by local coast guards, who they appease with a bribe of dried shrimp. Their deal with the Chinese goes smoothly, and they end up with a large net profit.
Unfortunately, a black-sailed pirate ship approaches them with nefarious intentions. Thankfully, Amogae notices them before they’re too close and wraps up their precious silk cargo in waterproof lining before jumping into the water. The others are initially confused, but they take the cue when the bullying pirates barge onboard and start rummaging through their belongings. They find some remaining black linen cloth and take it as tribute.
Although Yonggae wants to argue against the pirates’ intrusion, Soboori stops him, because Amogae has been in the water too long without oxygen. The pirates’ last warning to Soboori and the others is that these waters belong to them, and that half of any profit made on them will be theirs to take. Trying to get them to leave as quickly as possible, Soboori just nods and acquiesces.
When the pirates are no longer in sight, they fish out Amogae, who’s unconscious and blue from lack of breathing. They hurry back to Amogae’s house where his children are playing in the front yard. They’re shocked to see their father on Keutsae’s back and start crying.
After they settle the unconscious man into bed, Ilchung holds a large needle against Amogae’s chest to perform acupuncture therapy, but his hands tremble in fear. Seeing this, Gil-dong places a hand over the anxious monk’s and says that he’ll hold him in place. After a nerve-wracking moment, Amogae spits up the water clogging his lungs and comes back to life.
Later, Soboori readies some boiling water for his revived friend when Gil-dong approaches him. Thinking that his father was corrupted by Soboori’s influence, Gil-dong tells him not to hang out with Amogae anymore. But Soboori laughs and tells Gil-dong to think closely about who really caused his father’s transformation.
Amogae and the others debrief on what happened at their night smuggling encounter, and after some investigation, they find out that the pirates are in league with the coast guards. By purposefully losing large sums of money to the coast guards, the leader of the pirate crew has been able to cash in on tipoffs and evade the huge bounty on the leader’s head that would turn a slave into a commoner, a commoner to a titled man, a titled man to a higher position, and so on.
Amogae decides to use this to his advantage and hatches a plan: after luring the head pirate into a night of gambling with Ilchung, they’ll kidnap him. Amogae kills two birds with one stone by bringing Secretary Eom back into the mix.
A flashback shows that when Amogae promised Secretary Eom that he’d elevate him to a higher position, and had given him a good luck talisman that was supposed to aid him during the national civil servant exam. On his way home from failing said exam, Secretary Eom holds the wooden talisman and curses himself for believing the lies of a honey-tongued thief.
However, that’s when cries to catch the fleeing head pirate arise. After hearing the calls that clearly state that whoever catches the pirate would be rewarded with a great position, Secretary Eom promptly bops the incoming pirate on the head with his wooden talisman.
He sees Amogae and the gang coming toward him from the direction of the knocked down pirate and realizes that Amogae had kept his word and repaid his favor in a different way, but with the same desired result. And just like that, Secretary Eom becomes Magistrate Eom.
He holds the gaudiest celebration that the Ikhwari town has ever seen for his official inaugural parade. Amogae nods to him, and Soboori winks at him from the admiring crowds, so Magistrate Eom flashes them the universal sign for drinks afterwards.
When they have dinner together, Amogae asks if the newly instated magistrate’s accommodations are adequate, and he replies that he’s been bothered by the sound of rats in his building. Amogae says that he’d like to donate some funds to the magisterial office once he profits from his “fishing” trips (aka smuggling operations) to repair the building, but that some “cats” (corrupt officials in league with pirates) are eating most of his catch. Taking the hint, Magistrate Eom promises to track down those “cats.”
The next day, he strikes fear into the hearts of his underlings by saying that he was a former magisterial secretary. That means he can catch the slightest whiff of corruption, and he won’t be lenient with anyone who is found guilty.
Of course, this has trickle-down effects, and the next time Amogae and his crew go out for their bartering mission, the coast guards won’t even take a look at the bribe that they’ve prepared for them.
As profit grows, the black market black linen trade grows as well, and the gang goes out to celebrate at a nearby town. Happy about their success, they become a little rowdy, and on a pee break, Amogae overhears the locals disparage his bunch, calling them a group of low-life gangsters.
He mentions that to the rest, and they become incensed, but then real gangsters — the pirate bullies from before — show up, wanting to pledge allegiance. They promise that they’ll do whatever they’re told, whether it’s beating, crushing, and destroying things or people.
Amogae speaks up and says that they don’t need people to do that, but rather, they need some more brothers to share drinks with who would be willing to protect their own. Liking the sound of being brothers, the pirate spokesman agrees in laughter.
Following this encounter, Amogae holds a primitive yet meaningful ceremony to commemorate the beginning of their blood brotherhood, and he promises that no one will touch him or his own. As he dips a gourd into the blood-mixed rice wine, he proclaims: “If one gains, we all gain. If one fights, we all fight. And if one dies, we all die!”
Watching from over the fence, Gil-hyun looks entranced, while Gil-dong’s expression is more wary. He tells his older brother that he’s worried because his father changed for him and that he might die because of him, but Gil-hyun tells him not to worry.
His concerns don’t seem to have gone away, because when Gil-dong takes a nap later, he’s transported back into the tiger’s forest where he cries sorrowfully that it’s all his fault. The majestic tiger stays silent, but keeps Gil-dong company while he weeps.
Meanwhile, Amogae looks over his little dominion with Soboori at his side, almost awed that he’s still alive to appreciate his family and new friends. He tells Soboori of his ambitions to raise Gil-hyun as a scholar and Gil-dong as a general.
Someone should have told him that these things don’t work out like you plan, because soon, Gil-hyun starts showing interest in knives instead of books. When Amogae asks Gil-hyun about possibly taking the civil servant exam, Gil-hyun replies that he knows there isn’t a bright career for slave-born scholars, and that he’d rather learn to follow in his father’s footsteps. Mollified, Amogae changes his ideas for Gil-hyun’s future.
One day, Gil-dong walks through the street stalls when a pretty display of accessories catches his eye. The vendor tries to shoo him away, but after hearing from his friend that Gil-dong is the son of Amogae, whose influence is now significant, he brings him back and tells him to choose whatever he likes. Gil-dong has so much fun that he runs back to his father and announces that he wants to become a traveling merchant in the future.
Of course, this was not Amogae’s plan for Gil-dong, so the next day, when Gil-dong goes again to watch the street mart, Amogae sits down with him to talk. He tells his son that while peddling is a good career, Gil-dong can’t become a trader because he is special — he’s the Mighty Child.
Gil-dong asks his father if he’s referring the same Mighty Child that’s destined to kill his family and all his loved ones. It’s clear that Amogae’s warnings to Gil-dong when they were still slaves have become ingrained in him. Even though his father tells him he doesn’t have to hide his strength anymore, all the recent emotional trauma has taken its toll, and it’s caused Gil-dong to subconsciously suppress any memories that he has of having inhuman powers. Amogae is surprised at first, but then accepts his son as he is.
Twelve years later, wealthy Ikhwari elder Amogae looks over his village, waiting for his second son to come home. His daughter rushes to present him with a bouquet and goes to find her brother.
An older Gil-hyun (Shim Hee-seob) is in the forge, overseeing the creation of counterfeit silver taels, and cautions his sister not to come in so freely. She goes back out in search of her second brother and calls out to the ocean, telling him that if he doesn’t come back soon, their father will be really worried.
At a nobleman’s house somewhere, the wealthy daughter and her servant gossip about rumors of a magical merchant who can help ladies with all their troubles with romance and fertility. Seeing her lady’s keen interest in his abilities, the servant gives her the name, Hong Gil-dong.
The scene switches to a beautiful panorama view of an older Gil-dong (Yoon Kyun-sang), who sits in a wheat field calmly gazing out at the blue sky.
COMMENTS
Finally! I could watch Kim Sang-joong’s masterful caper schemes all day, but I started this drama for Yoon Kyun-sang, and I’m so excited we’ll see him on screen now. After all the heavy background-building and history-setting, I’m ready for a few lighthearted episodes of seeing Yoon Kyun-sang peddling women’s wares and performing “love miracles.”
Too bad my drama spidey senses are tingling that things will go awry soon. This upward trajectory where good keeps winning over evil never lasts very long, especially at the beginning of a sageuk. A foreboding feeling tells me that Gil-dong will have to endure another traumatic event to rediscover his powers, and I just have my fingers crossed that his father won’t die in the process.
I’ve gotten so attached to Amogae and his impressive rags-to-riches journey. For Amogae, it was never about the wealth or the power, but rather what those could help him protect: his family. I think that’s one of the reasons he created the blood brotherhood, so that his children would have a strong familial support network in place should he be taken away again for his murderous past deed. His actions also empowered his people, the helpless and undesirables of society, and validated their inner human worth. Growing up under those ideals, Gil-dong’s inner compass is equipped for him to become a leader, but is he ready for the burdens of responsibility?
When Amogae initially wanted Gil-hyun to become a prestigious government official and Gil-dong to become a general, I had a laugh thinking: Wow, stereotypical Asian parent. After seeing his acceptance of Gil-dong’s desires, my impression of him changed. Partly, I think some part of him still wanted to shield Gil-dong from the world to keep him safe a while longer. But mostly, I think Amogae is truly a great father who only wants his children to be happy.
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1 frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
February 10, 2017 at 3:23 AM
How many episodes will this drama be if four were spent on backstory?
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voice
February 10, 2017 at 4:39 AM
it's 30 episodes
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
February 10, 2017 at 9:28 AM
Oof. That's a lot of episodes. I don't think I have the stamina for this drama.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 10:20 AM
I'd take my chances on a promising 30-episoder instead of going for a 16-20 episoder that begins cute enough but then fizzles halfway.
It helps that this PD seems to know what he's doing, if the early episodes were like Hwarang I'd have peaced out by now.
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voice
February 10, 2017 at 3:19 PM
lmao same
Lai
February 10, 2017 at 5:08 PM
I take my chances with a 30-episode drama with a fantastic storyline, directing and acting rather than a 16-20 episode drama with idol who doesn't know head or tails about acting but only know how to ride on his or hers' popularity (Esp: Hwarang).
Nadila Nadila
February 10, 2017 at 9:33 PM
@Lai I might be blind but the acting in Hwarang's were good tho? especially the boys acting, I get it Go Ara's acting is lacking but you're blaming the idols acting for Hwarang??? really??? Don't get me wrong, I hate it too when unexperienced idols with connections are taking roles that is supposed to be for actors, but if they are doing good then I shall give them the credit they deserves, the storyline is the most problematic part in that drama IMO
Ashablue
February 11, 2017 at 9:55 AM
With the writing and directing so far, it looks like the story will be tight and without fillers and the 30 episodes might be worth it
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2 yrlvv
February 10, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Bye little Gil Dong. You are the cutest little one.
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Islander north
February 10, 2017 at 11:03 AM
And what happens to the younger sister, I don't see her listed among the cast or am I missing something?
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latteholic
February 10, 2017 at 4:47 PM
YES! Lil Gil Dong will surely be missed! He's too adorable.
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3 nchoe
February 10, 2017 at 4:04 AM
I'm still wondering what actually happened between Gil-dong and the majestic tiger at the woods.
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faith
February 10, 2017 at 4:37 AM
i feel like that the tiger will make another appearance and he will got his memory back from this encounter.
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4 voice
February 10, 2017 at 4:43 AM
i'm so excited to see YKS next week. i've also started this drama for him (well actually the whole cast) but my heart was captured by the beautiful childhood story, i'm really going to miss little gil dong but hopefully we'll see traces of him in the adult version. i'm really interested to see how the story is going to unfold because even though i came for the cast, the story is so interesting. also i heard this episode reached 12% i'm so happy, hope the ratings keep climbing!
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5 darcylove
February 10, 2017 at 4:49 AM
Here for yoon kyun sang..... Will always be here for him..... Love him soooo much.....
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6 Kendi
February 10, 2017 at 4:59 AM
Thanks for the recap!
Here wishing Dad to stay alive till the very last episode, he cheated death many times anyway.
Suddenly curious, is gibang and brothel a same thing? Or gibang is for noblemen and brothel is for commoner?
Are the 'employees' of the establishment both called gisaeng?
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:03 AM
I'm a little confused myself, but I think there may have been some kind of class distinction between gisaeng and regular prostitutes - the former seem closer to what, in the western world, were known as courtesans.
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 7:50 AM
I think I get it but I doubt myself so let's put our heads together and figure it out .
I think a gibang is not just a place of entertainment for noblemen but it's also a training place for gisaengs or courtesans.
They were not your regular street prostitutes. They were very intelligent, well versed in their traditional culture. Beside being skilled entertainers, they were taught to read and write, they knew politics etc etc.
(Jeok Sun-A's testimony helped Amogae. She knows what those noblemen are up to).
In short gisaengs had the brains of an educated noble with status of a slave. Joseon's best spies I'd say, if only the higher ups were smart enough to use them.
I'd go with courtesans
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 8:04 AM
yeah, that's what I thought - I've seen enough sageuks featuring gisaengs (or, on the Japanese side, geisha) trained in the arts/music, so it makes sense that a gibang isn't any old brothel even if the women were effectively enslaved in both cases.
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Kendi
February 11, 2017 at 2:46 AM
@Kiara & @pogo
Thanks for insightful comments guys. This place is the best! :))
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM
@ Kendi
I think brothel have different purpose according to each culture.
I think a brothel would be different from a gibang. It was not a place for training but full on entertainment as in, you know....those kind of activities that are illegal these days most countries.
According to historical records of Joseon, King Yeonsangun ( king in this drama) shut down the Seonggyeongwan (Sungkyunkwan University), lecture halls etc and turned them into his personal brothels.
We can guess that only the best and most beautiful were picked to serve him there. That was probably how Honey Lee's character Jang Nok-soo met the king.
I think the words that the historiographers used to describe their pleasure seeking king's behavior was just as vulgar.
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7 keiru
February 10, 2017 at 5:03 AM
I thought their little sister wouldn't be able to survive after their mother died, but I'm glad that she grows up and live, at least until now..
After getting used to the image of Yoon Kyun Sang as a hyung (Ki Jae Myuuung~) , now I can't wait to see him playing as someone else's dongsaeng ;)
There's this still picture on instagram showing Gil Dong crying like a baby and Gil Hyun sits beside him with a worried look. It looks cute and has made me anticipating their interaction even more !
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:09 AM
I was so sure their baby sister would die without a mother, it was practically a relief every time they had her onscreen (and she's played by the cutest babies ever, especially when she gets a little bigger and learns to walk, she's so adorable)
I know what you mean about YKS, for some of us he'll always be 'HYUUUUUNG!!!' That bro-chemistry in Pinocchio was magic, but even if he's the dongsaeng this time he's still got the heartbroken eyes down.
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Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 8:50 PM
There is something about this family and their relationship with each other that makes me want to root for them. There is love and respect between a husband and wife, between children and parents.
I think the Confucian strict values of that era is sometimes being over exaggerated in dramas. The rest of Joseon can use it to dominate and abuse others but not in Amogae's house. His wife and him are equal, they get to eat at the same table. He never treated her like she is below him.
His children have choices, they are not forced into pursuing a career that their father chose for them.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM
It makes sense, since Amogae lived most of his life as a slave at the bottom of an oppressive social system.
So it's natural that he wouldn't be as firmly bound to the idea of following it as the better-off yangban class who profit from said system - he's something of an egalitarian, even if he sees ambition as his road to security.
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8 Tae minie
February 10, 2017 at 5:08 AM
Yoooooooooooooooooooon kyun sang. Love him and them cheeks so cute. I haven't started the drama yet but I'm coming kyun sangy oppa.
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9 rara
February 10, 2017 at 5:40 AM
hey I'm waitin for lee hanui here. hope she'll get more scenes here
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 6:00 AM
I think she will but hopefully not too evil for our liking lol. I'm excited to see her too and I'm glad she is playing Yeonsangun's famous consort Jang. The kind of character that is not going to be one dimensional.
She is very good with this kind of role and I can't wait to see what the writer has in store for her character.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:14 AM
That first scene hinted at it - she seems quite content with the king but I don't think she can be taken at face value. Definitely doesn't look like your standard bitchy second lead to me - thank goodness!
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 9:18 AM
She had some control over him so it's going to be interesting when it comes to Gil Dong.
I want to love our leading lady and I hope she's more than just a love interest. Her character is a widow so that's more interesting than the usual single noble damsel in distress.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 10:22 AM
Based on what I can see of her hair in the preview, she's still unmarried, but has it in the Joseon married-lady bun by the time she's tied to the stake. I'm guessing her marriage+widowhood happens during the course of the drama?
Chandler
February 10, 2017 at 10:38 AM
Yeah, making her a widow hints at her being a little bit more worldly and self-sufficient. I hope I'm not wrong.
She did seem to have tenacity in the brief clip we saw, even if she does seem to be used as Hong Gil Dong's Achilles' heel.
Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 8:52 PM
Excited to see them all next week.
rara
February 10, 2017 at 5:47 PM
definitely understand with 'not too evil for our liking' hahah. I knew bcs sometimes when the character just so evil and annoying being played by a good actor/actress then it'll leave deep impression.
Just like seohyunjin, if you watched feast of the gods back then. She's way too good as antagonist so I can't watch her in other roles lol.
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Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 9:04 PM
Her family background is just about the same as Gil Dong. It'd be interest to watch her work her way up and elevating her low status.
I wonder if Gil Dong is going to have a hand in it based on the trailer.
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Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 9:06 PM
*interesting*
10 Rose
February 10, 2017 at 5:46 AM
Amogae is Chosun's Dark Vador.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:10 AM
not really seeing it tbh, I mean there's the lack of crazy/evil.
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11 sunnyl
February 10, 2017 at 6:21 AM
Thanks for the recap! lol on Asian parent comment. Yeah I did that too and didn't quite work out (well one worked lol)
Love the show, Love Amogae, Love little Gildong, Love cidar story. I am a happy viewer (at least for now)
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 7:17 AM
I'm hopeful that this is going to be my sageuk of the year. The upcoming ones that haven't been aired are not as promising based on the writers etc. Most are going for the fluffy love story with very little history.
Here I get a good amount of history thrown in as part of the story. I'm still trying to absorb them all. It's good for a rewatch because it's not boring.
Here is hoping that the main leads will be as good.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 8:08 AM
This drama seems to be a different beast from the upcoming romance sageuks - it's not quite a traditional sageuk, but not really a fantasy sageuk either despite Gil-dong's unusual strength as a child, or his encounter with the tiger.
but it's clear at this point that the people behind it have a good idea of what they're doing, and a definite vision for their story. I just hope it holds through the live shoot!
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12 sharkie
February 10, 2017 at 6:28 AM
This is the only currently running kdrama that got me excited! I'm really for YKS next week!
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sharkie
February 10, 2017 at 6:28 AM
*ready
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voice
February 10, 2017 at 3:23 PM
same here, i watch defendant and hwarang as well but rebel is the first one i watch, defendant straight after and hwarang... well.. i still haven't watched this weeks episode oops
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13 john
February 10, 2017 at 6:31 AM
tineybeanie ~
Thanks for the recap. Enjoyed the story so far, all of the actors have been on the money, the supporting cast is wonderful.
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14 pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:02 AM
Thanks for the recap, tineybeanie!
This week has been a nice reprieve for Amogae and his family (though considering they got it after losing Geum-ok and him being tortured, they really needed it). But yeah, I'm now nervous that Ahmogae and the kids have had twelve long years of peace, prosperity and relative happiness - and this drama is going to live up to it's gut-wrenching opening scenes at some point.
I really do like how the older kids just went and declared they wanted to do their own thing (and a little sad that Gil-hyun, even at that young age, knows he won't get anywhere as a slave's son if he takes the exam), and their dad accepted it. And while little Gil-dong has been utterly adorable, I'm thrilled to see Yoon Kyun-sang at last!
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 7:26 AM
I'm nervous too and I'm feeling what little Gil Dong is feeling and seeing. I'm with him, I don't like Soboori either.
I have a bad feeling that someone close to Amogae is going to betray him.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 10, 2017 at 7:44 AM
AAAAGH I mixed up it's and its! damn grammar pet peeves!
I have my misgivings about Soboori too, since he started out in the first place as a thief out to screw over a humble slave who became a target because he was nice enough (read: patsy enough, in Soboori's thinking) to help him. I don't think he's evil, more like amoral, and I rather hoped he'd grown enough of a conscience during his time with Amogae (maybe something of a Lando Calrissian figure?). But I wouldn't be surprised either way, especially since Amogae has in a way taken over the leadership of his gang.
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WishfulToki
February 10, 2017 at 2:31 PM
Hmm yes, when they do the blood-brothers ceremony and Ahmogae says 'my men', Soboori gives him a quick look. We'll see.
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PakalanaPikake
February 11, 2017 at 4:17 AM
Thanks for pointing that out. So maybe little Gil-dong's spider sense was tingling after all. And it doesn't bode well for Amogae if the old boss turns into a green-eyed monster instead of remaining thankful that his blood brother has used his ingenuity to make everyone's life materially better and far less risky.
Soboori also seemed just a little too pleased to meet Geum-Ok, which is what made me think that Amogae kind of gave her the bum's rush to get her out of the room.
Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 9:49 PM
And there is Secretary Eom who has been on Amogae's side during the whole trial but he is a magistrate now and he is not newbie like the other magistrate. He knows what the local officials are doing illegally. They make a living out of changing high interest on the grain loan to the locals. Instead of 10% interest they'd double or triple it so they can pocket 10-20%. That's the reason why he asked them about the grain ledger.
I'm impressed but how long is he going to protect them?
Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 10:06 PM
*charging*
15 UmbrellaMan
February 10, 2017 at 7:18 AM
I was totally worried that Amogae was going to push his children to be a scholar and a soldier. It is very common in Korean dramas to have extreme parents that force their children to become this or that. And given their background as slaves, I could see him wanting better for his children, even pushing them if need be So, boy was I surprised that he let his sons grow up to be who they wanted to be- even a lowly peddler. Amogae may have many faults as a parent, but this wasn't one of them. #parentingdoneright
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16 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
February 10, 2017 at 10:10 AM
At the beginning, when wife's ghost tells Amogae that he will freeze to death if he falls asleep there (according to the subs in the version I watched)...
... No worries - every kdrama veteran knows if you fall asleep any place where you could possibly be even slightly cold, somebody (of the opposite sex) will put something warm on you :)
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17 O_o
February 10, 2017 at 10:40 AM
About the Asian parenting comment... That's not how I saw it. Amogae was not necessarily trying to push his sons to become a scholar or a general, but he knew his first son loved to study and his second son was a born warrior. So he wanted to be in a position to support and root.for his sons' dreams. But by the time he got there, his sons have already lost their dreams and learned to compromise with the world, which made him sad.
Loved the dream scene where the tiger yawned at Gil Dong's sob story. It was hilarious and heart-rending at the same time.
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18 PakalanaPikake
February 10, 2017 at 10:57 AM
Thanks, tineybeanie, for recapping!
I really like the music. Here are a couple of links:
이하늬 - 길이 어데요 by 역적 : 백성을 훔친 도적 OST Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjFYvDNqxQ
-- "Giri Eodeyo" (Please pardon my transliteration.) Mournful female vocal with piano and orchestra.
"When Spring Comes" is a real earworm in several variations.
Vocalist Ahn Ye Eun with some seriously tasty Hammond B3 in the kickass drama version in episode 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8JTZYbZ44E
Vocalist Jeon In-kwon, original version. The lead guitar sounds like it's straight out of a spaghetti western (ramyun eastern?!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFAhPuucpQ
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UmbrellaMan
February 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM
I only wish the OST was available through itunes! I want this music!!
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Kiara
February 10, 2017 at 4:40 PM
Love the ost. I have them all on my playlist.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that is Honey Lee singing the first song. It sounds like her at least to me.
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PakalanaPikake
February 11, 2017 at 3:11 AM
이하늬 = i ha nui = Honey Lee, from what I can gather from my still-underutilized copy of Korean From Zero! vol. 1. ;-)
I'm not familiar with her enough to recognize her voice -- but I'm sure that will change by the end of 30 episodes.
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voice
February 10, 2017 at 5:33 PM
is OST 2 by honey lee?!
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PakalanaPikake
February 11, 2017 at 4:04 AM
DramaWiki doesn't have a listing for Part 2 of the OST, but so far there are two different female vocalists:
Honey Lee performs “Giri Eodeyo.” Sorry, but I couldn't find an English translation of the title when I wrote the original post.
Ahn Ye Eun is a different female vocalist, who performs the uptempo rocker "If Spring Comes" in Part 2 of the OST. It is the same song as in Part 1 that is performed by Jeon In-kwon, the guy with the distinctive voice. There are 3 versions of that song in Part 1, specified as Original ver., Drama ver., and Inst. (= Instrumental).
I find it helpful to take a gander at the entries for OSTs because they can be so doggone confusing. A single part may consist of multiple tracks, which may be entirely different pieces, or multiple variations of a single composition -- or a combination. Arrrgh.
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19 PakalanaPikake
February 10, 2017 at 1:50 PM
Finished marathoning SIX FLYING DRAGONS this afternoon -- just in time to catch Yoon Kyun Sang's latest Joseon incarnation. From swordsman to traveling salesman. This ought to be interesting. Now I can see that little Gil-dong used to zone out in much the same way that Musa Moo-hyul went into berserker mode.
Amogae is a sharp cookie to set up a textile workshop to take advantage of the demand in Ming for high-quality linen which could be traded for the silks preferred by yangban. Over time the enterprise grows to provide employment to a passel of female weavers (not to mention the farmers growing and processing the fiber). It was interesting to catch a few glimpses of linen weaving processes.
I have to admit that the silver mine and foundry make me nervous because of the counterfeiting operation. Governments get really bent out of shape over minting your own coinage. I'm getting sensations of a shoe about to drop.
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Kiara
February 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM
Yea Moo-hyul was a total beast on berserker mode similar to Gil Dong. Love his undying loyalty to his king.
Did you watch TWDR yet?
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PakalanaPikake
February 16, 2017 at 11:37 AM
@Kiara,
Did you watch TWDR yet?
Just spotted your query. Sorry for the delay. ;-)
Nope, I wanted to watch the prequel before taking on TWDR, and finished SFD 6 days ago. It may be a while before I get to TWDR. Already have a lot of live-watching on my plate.
On the other hand, I went completely off the deep end and marathoned SECRET LOVE AFFAIR shortly after SFD. It was really strange seeing Yi Bang-won playing the piano, and Gil Tae-Mi / Gil Sun-Mi without swords. The music was great. Ditto Yoo In-ah and Kim Hee-Ae. ;-)
Before REBEL started, I managed to marathon HONG GIL-DONG, THE HERO and enjoyed it quite a bit. Kang Ji-hwan was dandy in the title role. The ending reminded me of WELCOME TO DONGMAKGOL and BICHEONMU / THE DANCE IN THE SKY.
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20 niyati
February 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM
I loved the little detail of how the colors of Amogae's clothing kept getting darker and richer throughout the episode as an indication of his growing wealth and social standing.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 12, 2017 at 12:47 AM
oh yeah, I noticed that by the end, he's dressed in purple - even if it's still cotton. The aesthetics of this drama are A+++!
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