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Descended’s star writer Kim Eun-sook courted by tvN for fall series

Continuing in their quest to collect all of dramaland’s biggest-name talent, tvN is currently aiming to lure star writer Kim Eun-sook to their channel with talks of producing her next series. She’s currently enjoying success with her drama Descended From the Sun, which is logging 20%-plus ratings for KBS, and she’s got a long string of hits to her name (Heirs, A Gentleman’s Dignity, Secret Garden, Lovers in Paris) so it’s no surprise they’re eager to snap her up.

Even though Descended has barely begun airing, writer Kim is in talks to return with her next drama as soon as this fall. The series is described as a romance, which is only to be expected, since sweep-you-off-your-feet love stories and crackling romantic chemistry is her signature. However, this drama sounds like it’ll take a notable departure from her prior shows, most of which are contemporary romances set in the (relatively) real world featuring regular people; this one will feature fantasy-like elements found in Far East fairy tales and legends, such as goblins.

I think it’s safe to say tvN is no longer the fledgling underdog station compared to the Big Three broadcasters, now that it’s churning out some of TV’s most buzzworthy projects and raking in high ratings to boot. They’ve been scoring big talent in the director, actor, and writer ranks, and Kim Eun-sook would just be another feather in their cap, alongside writers like Noh Hee-kyung (the upcoming Dear My Friends) and stars like Go Hyun-jung, Kim Hye-soo, and Jeon Do-yeon.

I suppose writing another show this year wouldn’t be that much of a time crunch for Kim since Descended was pre-produced and she’s already done with it, but I can still imagine that it would be pretty impressive to score two big hits within one calendar year. Not that this drama is assured automatic success, but I’m looking at Kim Eun-sook’s record here. Whether or not you like her style, there’s no denying she knows how to give audiences what they want, and I wouldn’t bet against her.

Although the drama is still in very early planning stages, the new series is looking to take up tvN’s Friday-Saturday drama slot in November.

Via Asiae

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This is a ship. The ship's name is TvN's fall dramas.

You shall now witness the phenomenon of a small tadpole jumping off this ship.

WHEE

*splash*

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Tl;dr?

NOT TODAY, SATAN

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*throws salt around tvn*

*considers Cheese in the Trap, and then jumps off the ship anyway*

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Yesssss! TvN is bringing disappointment lately

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I take it you don't like tvN? Can I ask why?

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For a while, they were considered a breath of fresh air in the Korean TV world - daring, willing to take risks, innovative ideas, and really well received dramas. Then they got too big and started to act like the main TV stations.

The Reply series and the Flower over variety shows have been their saving grace, and they have had a few misses in recent times. But what has earned them a negative reputation lately, is what people perceive as them over reaching into their dramas production, by trying to push what they think will be the popular narrative i.e. pushing for a different husband in Reply series, pushing for Seo Kang Hoon in Cheese In the Trap. They want to be the next "viral" big story, Kim Soo Hyun in China success, so bad that they are actually self-sabotaging their own shows and destroying their reputation.

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A+++ comment.

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You've summed it up so well <3

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Well I agree with the cheese, but I don't think they are pushing for different husband for the Reply series. The one got casted first is always the male lead, and Hyeri even knows that Taek is the husband since episode 13.

So the mess in in the Cheese, and I kinda get offended when someone brought Reply to the mess. No offense though, I just want to clarify it teehee

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I think it's a disservice to the Reply series team to compare them with Cheese when Reply was original series where the husband is always hidden from the start whereas Cheese is an adaptation and you know who the male lead clearly was. Park Hae Jin clearly wasn't happy with how the production pushed him aside but there are no such discord between Reply cast and production. Pretty sure Ryu Jun Yeol is still thanking his lucky stars he was part of Reply even if he wasn't end game as he goes to sleep hugging a pile of CF cash instead of Deok Seon.

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I hope tvN can come up with more shows like Signal, with that calibre of writing, acting and directing!

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I agree about CITT but with the Reply series they did not change the husband.

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They've still had more hits than misses. Nine, Reply, 3MAD, Signal, Oh My Ghostess, I Need Romance, Queen Inhyun's Man, Misaeng, Liar Game, Let's Eat, Twenty Again, etc. They've had their fair share of misses (anyone watch the first 3 eps of Basketball? lmao) but I trust their dramas way more than other network and they tend to have the best writing and the least makjang dramas which is a breath of fresh air. I feel like you're describing recent dramas only aka CITT & the end of 1988. As a whole, I think your analysis is pretty far off.

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And have no problem promising the actors, directors and audience one thing, then doing another. Examples: CITT and Three Muskiteers.

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The one thing I like about TvN is that they are willing to take a chance on unproven actors/actresses to headline their dramas. I sometimes feel like the network stations just keep rehashing the same A listers, trying out different combinations. I'll be sad if TvN stops doing this though since they have become quite popular now and some of the well known celebrities are starting to take notice.

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My comment's a joking one. As most commenters might know, I am utter remorseless TvN trash- and tbh I did like KES's works, I just have no idea how to feel 'bout her after Heirs and DOTS since she seems to have only one type of male lead :c

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More power to Kim Eun Sook and tvN!

She is a star writer, a maker of superstars. It doesn't matter whether a few overseas English-speaking viewers like her style or not. Enough people do to make all her dramas big successes.

Good luck to tvN!

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This is what happens when companies/brands get successful too quickly. It's like they don't know what to do with themselves so they can only look to models of past companies.

Look at all the big names they are courting...and the big bucks they are paying. Does this show TvN's long-term branding and solid corporate culture synergy?

It's sad, because TvN has had so many remarkable yet non-traditional successes, but seems to have lost their way on who they wanted to be with all the success. There's nothing wrong with courting big names, but when that becomes your driving goal, you lose something in the process. *sigh* Trap of success as they say.

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What happened to KES being SBS-only? All of her dramas except the current DOTS have been SBS.

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SBS probably isn't paying as much compared to the other stations so she left

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CJ E&M recently bought KES' production company so basically KES is now exclusively working for tvN which is owned by CJ E&M.

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SBS has (man man from another star) writer now

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SBS couldn't afford DOTS because they were completely broke after Secret Door and the Olympics ratings flopped, and Kim Eun Sook was always willing to work with other stations, it's just that she and Shin Woo Chul were like soulmates until Heirs, when they decided to try out other writers and directors for a change.

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Kyaaahh. I so love this writer. Love her Lovers in Paris and The Heirs. Looking forward for DOTS (once it's done) and her future dramas. Hope she'll try TvN too. Why not? They produce good dramas too.

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You really should watch DotS after it's done airing. It's ridiculous how addictive it is.

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I love the Heirs too, I find new things to like about it with every watch. I know people will read this comment and wonder if I've lost my mind. I still think Heirs is the best acting Lee Min-ho has ever done in his career.

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agree to that.

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Heirs for me is the most beautiful high school drama I have seen so far,

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Great acting by Min Ho, but the guys were an awful bunch of characters.

Basically the drama is a bunch of privileged people crying about being too privileged. And a couple of girls who are apparently doormats, so they're okay with all that.

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Well, basically most, if not all KES female characters tend to be certified doormat, so no surprises there.

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This characterization of Kim Eun-sook's women is something I can never agree with no matter how many times I read comments saying it. I wouldn't consider Cha Eun-sang a doormat. I interpreted her character a lot differently than most people. She was a girl full of anger at how unfair her life was. A normal thing for even the privileged eighteen year-olds in real life. She just wanted a normal life, to go to school and graduate and get a job so she can move into a nice place. Things don't always work out well but she doesn't smile about it like the other poor girl characters in dramaland. She hates it, she hates that she has to work so hard and still be looked down on. She hates that her mother has to be treated the way she is treated, she hates that her sister ran off on her and her mother. But she still keeps working hard because she sees that as the way out of her poverty. She wasn't a noble idiot, she loved Tan but she left him not for him but for her. Because she couldn't take it anymore. She was strong in her own way but she was only eighteen, there's only so much she could do.

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I find Lee Min Ho's Go Jyun Pyo his best performance so far. But then I couldnt finish Heirs because Park Shin Hye's character ruined the whole drama. Her annoying damsell in distress and crying scenes were too much. (and yes I am a Park Shin Hye fan!). She had more chemistry with Woo Bin.

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Read a rumor a while ago that she's been trying to get Kang Dongwon for this since last year. That would be the biggest score for tvn lol.

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I can somehow see KDW coming back to dramaland, I can't however imagine him in a KES drama! :O

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I think he'd do it for the right drama and (very important) no live shoot.

But a KES drama would be so wildly out of step with his post-army work, I can't even imagine it.

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agree...those two are like opposites.
but if that happens, then i'd be grateful to KES for bringing KDW back to dramaland.

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Omo~ I really wish this would entice KDW to return to dramaland but I read somewhere he doesn't like a romance themed plot? And if you look at the lost of his works besides those from his starting years, he has never done a movie with that specific genre. :( He also doesn't like dramas too TToTT

Tuna-oppa I wonder what the drama gods could offer for us to see you weekly in a dram

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Before he had said that he'd never come back to dramaland because live-shooting is his personal hell, but lately he seems more open to a return possibly because pre-productions are getting popular and I think he wants to widen his appeal to an international fanbase. However he still has a movie to film soon, if it's completely produced then it might not fit in his schedule so I don't even know if he's considering it. At least KES got to have dinner with him lol.

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KANG DONG WON? REALLY? WHOAH!!! As soon as I read this article and it mentions "GOBLIN", I initially thought of Kang Dong Won since he was fighting Goblins in his movie Jeon Whochi hehe but I never heard about this offer to him. I will be super happy to see him in a drama, please make it come true, though I would've wanted to be in a historical drama back with that long hair just like in Duelist, but for now anything will do. I just hope the story will be epic and garner attention. I want him to be in a great production and land a good role so that he will be loving doing dramas a bit more. Just like Jun Ji Hyun, since the hit drama Man From The Star, she has been positively considering returning again and is looking for good scripts. Sigh, I would've wanted him to star with her but there are some big names out there that sure is available with their schedule. Good Luck.

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The writer certainly sets unrealistic goals. First it was JJM, now KDW? Though she failed with JJM, I REALLY hope she can convince KDW.

But who will ever lure Won Bin back into dramaland then? Or into films? Someone? Anyone? *in agony*

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Ah yes, the 'Won Bin' myth. I'm convinced we all made him up inside our heads.

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True, true, XD! I admit my head is full of the "Won Bin myth" for years.

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I've heard about KES planning a fantasy series post-DotS before, and the potential lure of tvN being the station both intrigues and terrifies me at the same time. I mean, fantasy. But then otoh, KES and her formulaic love lines, are they even going to play well on tvN?

Someone call me when Jung Yoon-jung is done writing her Bride of the Water God adaptation, that sounds more promising anyway.

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I think this will truly test her as a writer since she has yet to break her strings of success. It will be interesting for sure on how she goes about this genre with her usual standards for lovelines.
As for TBotWG, I have been waiting for a drama adaptation of this manhwa for ages ever since the time that manhwas were the rage but more webtoons gets adaptated nowadays. I wonder if we'll ever see this happening

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@pogp

OMG TBotWG -- such a beautiful manwha -- and so tragic

question if you don't mine me asking

I haven't finished it because I'm too scared of the ending-- or has it even ended?? is it really sad??

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woopsies

*** @pogo sorry

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The only writer I look forward in tvN is No Hee Kyung, Kim Eun Sook who X)

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I just really hope she gets paired with a good plot-focused writer to temper her... ah, weakness.

I don't deny that her writing sells but if we could have the best of both worlds, why not?

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I liked Secret Garden most out of all her dramas despite the whole body swapping mystery being such a huge DUD. So I guess Goblins and fairy tales would be fun. Though really, I'm just not a fan of this writer and her style.

I've been hearing three rumored names for leads and it's been going around since late last year. So curious to see if any of them are truly up for this because despite my dislike for KES dramas, I can't deny I'm a little excited. Just a bit lol.

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"I’ve been hearing three rumored names for leads and it’s been going around since late last year."

So who are they? soapbox said Kang Dong Won, but there are two more rumored actors? Makes me super curious.

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this is dilema.. I love tvn but actually almost all the drama from tvn that i wached, had such a bad ending for me and i don't know wether i should believe them, not after reply 88 and cheese in the trap. But i like descendant of the sun.. And i like romance.

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Latest good romance from tvN is Oh My Ghostess tbqh...

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Twenty Again was pretty good, too.

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Please no.

Don't know why tVn would go after a writer known for the typical excesses of bad K-drama writing - popularity or not.

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+100000 her dramas are soooooo overrated. Why tvN, why?

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thank God I thought I was the only one who hates this idea. I can't imagine KES's drama airing in tvn.... it ruins the image I have in mind of tvn.

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I want more dramas like signal for tvn, no cheesy shits like her dramas.

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LOL @ cheesy shits. But yes, I agree wholeheartedly.

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I will never understand Kim Eun Sook's script's appeal (as well as the Hong sisters'). I find their writing shallow and so far removed from reality that I just can't get into it. I quite liked City Hall when it first aired, but that was during the early days of my drama watching. Now I just cannot stand all her later dramas (especially when I've watched so many better-written dramas from lesser-known names). I dropped A Gentleman's Dignity and Heirs 2 episodes in, and I'm going to drop DoTS as well. Not even 20%+ ratings and SJK can pull me in. I guess I just have to accept that I have a very different taste from the majority of the public.

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Well, some people like that nonsensical, soap opera fluff.

The same network known for the "AM/Reply Series", "Signal" and (going all the way back) to "Joseon X-Files" shouldn't be producing dreck like "Secret Garden" or "Heirs."

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+1, from me!!
and i'm being seen as the strange girl, since all girls in my class are falling so hard for yoo shi jin in DOTS.. and which i'm not. and i'm dropping the drama too.
i'm glad that i'm not the only one ?

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haven't bother to watch DotS or Heirs. KISs other dramas was kinda predicted and boring BUT City Hall was just WONDERFUL. Very mature, intriguing, interesting with great romance and storytelling (not perfect one, but realistic one).

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I meant KES :P

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That's the Writer Kim I've missed.

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+1! That drama had the very best elements of the genre (let alone the fantastic OTP- talent and looks combined!). We do need that writer back no matter the broadcast network. If cable channels promise less formulaic projects, that's what we need... "Something old, something new..."

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me too.. already dropped DOTS after first episode.. DOTS not really my cup of tea.. so sayonara to DOTS.. but i still love SJK..

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Lols, trust me, you are not the only one regarding KES or the Hong sisters. The star casts and pairing chemistry have always been KES's only saving grace. Once you are past the teeny-boppy years, it's hard not to see all the flaws of her writing, even with beautiful people in front of you.

I'm way past my teeny-boppy years so I can't shut my brain off for that long. I can barely shut my brain off for a movie, much less than a 16 hr drama. Plus, it's not like I can't see beautiful ppl on my screen from other countries/regions, with better writing and acting to boot. Can't wait for the Game of Thrones.

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I agree and this has been my taste for drama for the past few years. I tend to select which dramas I should watch from recaps and who the leads were. Most of the time I tried some first two episodes of the drama, then I decide whether I should continue watching them or just drop them.

By now, I realized that I like dramas that have unpredictable plots (which I see most are thriller/crime plots and only few romance) and made me sitting at the edge of my chair/bed and few plot holes which I can ignore.

Signal is by far the most interesting drama I watch this beginning of the year. Pied Piper and Memory is on my list next after Signal is over.

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I like the way KES writes about supporting / second lead's pairing characters' story (kim sarang & yoon sanghyun's in secret garden, im meahri & his oppa's bff - forgot his name - in AGD or bona & chan young / chan young's dad & rachel's mom) but the whole story in her dramas is not too appealing to me, like stale rice.
anyone who are considered as weird because you don't watch DotS, don't be afraid, you are not alone.

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IKR! I watched kes dramas for the second lead's pairing though and skipped all the main lead's pairing scene lol

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That's what I'm doing right now for DoTS tbh. Just watching the cuts for the second lead pairing :P

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I hope the drama turns into a Tvn signature with a KES twist rather than vice versa. Hope they stick with their existing style than thirst after DOTS type ratings ..

The last two eps of DoTS were a step up from her typical work, they actually introduced some moral dilemma / conflict of interest btwn the two leads..
Keeping my fingers crossed !

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Slowly... TvN is becoming "somebody" in K-dramaland, while the once Big Three are no longer big another... or becoming TvN in its earlier year.

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It's unfortunate that, although KBS tried with more "tvN-esque" scripts and ideas, several things went wrong...or not. Ratings didn't work despite the effort and lots of good-quality projects. Maybe local audiences expect different things from the mainstream networks, maybe they're not ready yet, who knows!
I think tvN has already set the bar too high, even for tvN itself. They cannot afford major set-backs while they're rising as the true "Trend Leader". And I don't mean ratings-wise...

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I will always have a soft spot for Writer Kim.

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Lol I can see Seo Kang Joon Being The Lead. He's The New TvN Boy

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Lol. You got me for this comment! Btw, if SKJ takes the lead (and, with this writer), I can't imagine what disaster will happen.

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What I love: this fantasy premise, TVN

What I detest: this writer :/
literally the MAIN thing that is holding me back from watching DotS is because her work is trope-y, cheesy & uninspired. & may I add, ridiculously frustrating. If this was written by anyone else I would be on the bandwagon already tbh, because I'm a fan of Song Joongki's acting.
((I'm still debating whether to just watch it for shallow reasons & just switch my brain off, because I appreciate pretty shows, but then when I think about this writer, I just get mad lol))

There's still plenty of time for the details to get hashed out before November and if the casting/promotions sell me a premise that sounds like it would be fun, then I'm in. I'm not totally writing this one off just because of the writer, but from the outset I don't have huge expectations tbh.

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tvN has had way more hits than misses for me, I've never considered networks to be much a determinant of how good a show will be though, either the writing is good or it's not.

Still a little perplexed by DOTS's numbers, it's just not THAT good, at least yet.

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mte, on all accounts. the praise for both tvn and kes kind of baffles me, lol.

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Eeeee! I wuv my Kim Eun-sook, I've always loved her dramas except Lovers and On Air and South of the Sun, which I haven't seen. I'm excited to see who'll be cast because Kim Eun-sook is known for always getting the men she wants. I find that admirable really. I hope the actor is someone I really like.

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I don't understand how there are people who think that tvn's reputation got ruined by Reply 1988's ending and put it on the same level as Cheese In The Trap. Just because you didn't like the ending doesn't mean it's tvn's fault or that they even changed the ending (people seriously still believe that???). Now the situation with Cheese In The Trap is a legit problem. I sincerely hope that something like that doesn't happen again.

Kim Eun-sook....sigh....all her dramas have actors and actresses starring in them that I like but no matter how hard I try I just can not get into her writing... It's too cheesy and I really don't like the way she writes her male and female leads. I was thinking about watching DOTS but after reading the recaps on here...Kim Eun-sook's dramas and me just aren't meant to be I think lol

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Lol. So totally agree with the first par.

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I totally agree with your first paragraph - it's wildly off base to compare 1988 to Cheese, and a huge insult to the 1988 team.

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Totally agreed with 1st par too even though I wasn't a Taekki's shipper. Reply 88 is so well made and acted, and very very thoughtful.

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I agree with you... on both paragraphs.

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Agree with your take on Reply 88.
Reply 88 was wonderful because of all the families, their stories and friendships. I didn't mind Taek being the husband however it disappointed me to not get an update (a cool one, of course) on JH. That would completely seal it for me.

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contents trend leader tvN

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Noooo.
The storyline sound promising but knowing the writer...ugh this drama will chock full of cheesy romance, predictable plot and a full blasting OST screaming "loveeee....." everytime the otp within each other range.

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i agree with some who said her romance story is kinda cheesy and unlogic.
but thanks to her i get to know an OTP The "YoungRa" young do and rachel from heirs. even though she messed it up in the end, still they are the best pair in kdrama to me.
she's also seems like often using the same actors, so i wish i get to see another kim ji won because since Yoo Rachel, i'm a huge fans :D

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Yayyy!!! I dont care about the writer, but im happy that tvn's going up and is being more popular! I, for one, dont like the writer, but i like the description even though its not much!!!

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but... why? for ratings??

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I like some of KES's works like Secret Garden and Descendant of the sun. But I'm kinda sad that she screwed up in Heirs!!
I'm Lee Min Ho's fan and got happy when I heard he would be in her drama. But what was that drama?? Seriously, she has done a good job so far in Descendant of the sun. I LOVE LOVE the main leads, supporting actors and also the plot is fresh and interesting. Couldn't she not screw up in Heirs?
All her drama but Heirs are good. And the reason why I'm saying all this is because I just don't understand why she wrote that drama like that. Heirs even didn't have good ratings until nearly the last episodes..
I hope KES doesn't do this with other actors. Just because she is recognized, actors accept her offers without consideration and sometimes they get caught right in like LMH!

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@javabeans
Why would you even put Heir's poster in your post? It is a totally messed up drama.
Sorry Javabeans I don't mean to intervene, just wanna share my opinion.

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maybe because DotS and Heirs are most recent works of KES. otherwise if they only put DotS poster it would give the impression that this is an article about DotS

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I haven't seen any dramas from TVN, Can someone plz suggest some good dramas from tvn, (worth watching)
tnx

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Signal, Liar Game, Marriage Not Dating...

3 very different shows but I love 'em all.

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misaeng is their best, in my opinion.

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I also enjoyed Oh My Ghostess.

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Oh Chem, where have you been to not have seen tvN dramas? In addition to what the others mentioned:

Answer Me series (1997, 1994, 1988)
Shut Up Flower Boy Band
Flower Boy Next Door
Flower Boy Ramyun Soup
Cheese in the Trap -- just be careful with this one though. It can harm you.

Misaeng and the Answer Me series are my favorites.

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Nine.

It's TVN first drama ever that made me look into TVN, besides Reply 1997.

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Joseon X-Files/Secret Investigation Record is still the best (just beating out the Answer Me/Reply series).

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Signal.

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Ugh. Kim Eun-sook can't even structure a plotless rom com. The thought of her doing fantasy makes me want to puke. That's the equivalent of Danielle Steele writing a romance set at Hogwarts.

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This got a guffaw out of me.

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The last time I watched a fantasy-eque drama it took me weeks to recover (Gu Family Book *raises fist to the sky*). I'm so hit and miss with KES. I liked Secret Garden, hated Heirs, was mentally destroyed by the end of A Gentleman's Dignity. I seriously stopped watching Heirs three weeks into the run. I just couldn't do it, even with the cast filled with my favorites.

My expectations are low so far. Very low. Like down in the deep depths of the ocean low.

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That rep scouting for tvN is on FIRE. I want to be that person's friend.

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I'm not so sure about this writer, we'll see... I've watched 3 episodes of DOTS and I still don't like it. The ratings are so high because there's not a real contender for this drama, OMHE and Come back mister are nice dramas but they're not that great.

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Isn't tVN owned by CJ E&M? I wonder how much say they have in the going ons of the channel. Lately CJ E&M has a hand in everything and what seems like a very big influence.
They could be getting more involved in their little cable channel that could with all of it's successes.

But, I don't know. Either way, I still think they make some of the best programming right now. I think as long as they don't forget to showcase some new talent every now and hire people who can really, really write/direct it's all good.

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I can't agree on the 'she knows what to give what we want' part. Kim Eun Sook NEVER gives me what I want. But then I lose out to the majority of the audiences who doesn't care about the plot development or the importance of characterization in her dramas.

tvN, why oh why? You can do without this overrated writer.

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Same reason why shows like "Grey's Anatomy," "Melrose Place," "Two and Half Men" and "Baywatch" were huge hits.

"Breaking Bad", "The Sopranos", "Orphan Black," GoT, TWD, "Fargo", etc. they are not (these show actually have/had great writing to go along w/ great acting).

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I thought GoT has pretty great ratings? But other than that, yep. This kind of argument doesn't really work with kdrama fans for whatever reason (there's an obsession with popularity and monetary success), but I'm with you all the way.

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+100000

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Well, this writer's trend is : Forced Romance..... Always surrounded by non-asian casts (lately),which is OK..... Disturbing imagination... No quite solid writing...

and of course, knows how to fool audiences, which what broadcasting channels like, for profit purposes...

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Well, I'm upset with CITT.
Even cry then alongside the last episode.
Well I dont really hate the end of the stories, instead Seo Kang Jun was too cute to be blamed.

But its Kim Eun Sook anyway... his Gods art of writing for succesfull pieces.
Umm.... Can I request, Kim Seul Gi? Then Yoon Do Jun, rite? They're awesome in Splash Splash Love. Pleeeeasseee... *begging *widesmile

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Please let Kim seul gi be the lead!! She deceives it!! Wouldn't hurt if it's with doo joon! They were so adorable!!!!!

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Finished watching Goblin last night. Just now read these comments. Made my day. Thanks!

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Just read all these comments esp those in March 2016. Look at her recent drama now. Goblin is the best!

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