Six Flying Dragons: Episode 29
by HeadsNo2
That’s the face of someone who’s met his match when it comes to swordsmanship, though there are plenty of surprises in store when it comes to exactly which uber talented and ultimately legendary swordsman has come knocking on our dragons’ door. More is revealed about Nameless, even if it still leaves us with more questions than answers. Actually, make that all questions, zero answers. But at least we have more of them? And more is usually a good thing.
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EPISODE 29 RECAP
After repeating the code phrase to her would-be assassin and getting the right response, Boon-yi again escapes being found out when she responds to him having never seen her before by telling him she came from the Chunmyung Branch.
She knows that only because the man who came to her mother said the exact same thing, though she has no idea what those words even mean. It’s only her and her wits to save her from certain death, since the assassin still seems suspicious that someone from the Chunmyung Branch was sent when “Master Gil” already gave his order.
Boon-yi immediately understands that the master he’s speaking of must be Gil Sun-mi, the very man who spared her life once when he didn’t have to. Straightening up her shoulders and summoning her most authoritative voice, she tells the assassin that she’s here to set things right, because Gil Sun-mi failed his last two missions.
The assassin backs down, and to avoid being questioned further on things she knows not of, Boon-yi asks him where Gil Sun-mi is. He tells her, then leaves after volunteering to lead the search party away so she can make her escape. Aw, what a nice assassin.
Of course, the search party is made up of Moo-hyul and Young-kyu, so Boon-yi has no reason to hide. She loses her balance once they arrive though, letting out a few short breaths after that very, very close shave.
She tells the boys about what she learned from the Nameless assassin, which was the mysterious “One must break the ash flower’s stem before it blooms” and the time and date: two o’clock in the afternoon on the fifth day of the month.
Bang-won remembers overhearing that the deposed King Woo was planning to give Lee Seong-gye a gift at that oddly specific time, which happens to be tomorrow. But more importantly, he remembers that Bang-ji just so happened to ask for tomorrow off, so he could go visit his hometown.
When Bang-ji approaches their group, Bang-won brings the question up with him. It’s suspicious that King Woo’s gift and Nameless’ plot are happening at the same time tomorrow, and of all days, that’s the one Bang-ji wanted for himself. “Does that sound like coincidence?” he asks the swordsman.
Boon-yi interjects to ask if he suspects her older brother, only for Bang-won to press him further. If it’s true that he’s going to his hometown tomorrow, he promises to apologize, which puts Bang-ji in an awkward spot. Luckily, he chooses to be honest, and admits that Gil Sun-mi told him that he could meet his mother at that exact time tomorrow.
Now, they realize that Gil Sun-mi wanted to lure Bang-ji away for whatever operation Nameless has planned. And by breaking down the Hanja characters in the “ash flower” code phrase, Bang-won realizes that they’re referring to his father, Lee Seong-gye. And “break the ash flower’s stem” obviously implies an assassination attempt waiting to happen.
The red carpet is rolled out the next day for the kingly gift’s procession, ending with great formality in front of Lee Seong-gye. Undoubtedly informed of the impending attempt on his life, the general does not drink the proffered wine, choosing to pour it out instead.
And the moment he does, all hell breaks loose. Lee Seong-gye’s soldiers emerge from the nearby buildings to surround the messenger’s caravan, sparking outrage from all sides.
But in a strange and chilling move, the caravan guards use the swords Lee Seong-gye’s men have held to their necks to kill themselves in short order. Moo-hyul looks appalled when the man at the end of his sword does the same, while the general leading the caravan yells out “Long live the king!” on Yooksan’s orders before cutting his own throat. And by that, he means the deposed King Woo.
The cart they brought with them suddenly explodes from the force of the assassin inside bursting out. It’s the same one Boon-yi encountered, and he makes a flying leap for Lee Seong-gye…
…Only to be stopped by Bang-ji’s blade. Both of them are skilled in the same mysterious art of fighting, but the assassin flees, knowing he can’t beat both Moo-hyul and Bang-ji. Since he gets crippled by one of Lee Seong-gye’s arrows, Bang-ji runs him down and engages him again, only to realize that the assassin is still fast, even when wounded.
He blocks a throwing blade the assassin lets fly in his second attempt to flee, and again runs the man down. Moo-hyul joins in the fight, urging the man to give him his name so he can put him on his ever increasing resume. The man only gives his family name, Cheok, and says that he’s from Goksan.
The name rings a bell for Bang-ji, who joins Moo-hyul in attacking the man in tandem. It’s a cool but sadly short-lived fight scene between the three of them, since the assassin uses a smoke bomb to flee once more.
They track down the bloodstains to the edge of a steep cliff, where no normal man could’ve survived if he jumped from it. But Bang-ji knows he’s no ordinary man, and guesses that he used a sophisticated martial arts technique to control his descent. He knows he’s met his match.
While the assassin hobbles away on foot by patching up his more gushing wounds, Bang-gwa and Officer Nam interrogate the two ministers who traveled with the caravan. They swear they had no knowledge of the assassination plot, and that they only ended up in Yeoju (where King Woo is being held) because they had a message to deliver from Lee Saek.
Word of the general’s last “Long live the king!” and the assassination attempt spreads to all four corners, including a very worried Lee Saek. If it’s true that King Woo planned the assassination, it means his son, the current King Chang, won’t be safe.
Even Da-kyung suspects Nameless as the chief suspect in the assassination attempt, but Bang-won knows that Jung Mong-joo’s reaction will be the most important one. And it’s true, since Poeun is determined to move faster than Lee Seong-gye, so he won’t get his way with dethroning King Chang and stripping the deposed King Woo of his title.
It’s up to Lee Seong-gye what he wants to do after that, but his supporters make it clear they want him to take the throne. Cut to everyone else reacting to recent events before we make it back to Bang-ji and Boon-yi, as he tries to reason out why their mother must be an unwilling pawn of Nameless, and not an active participant.
Boon-yi believes the opposite to be true now that she knows the code phrase her mother used all those years ago worked, but lets him cling to his fantasies.
Speaking of, Jukryong frees Yeon-hyang of her Nameless Grandma escorting duties so they can talk about Cheok’s failure in the assassination attempt. She isn’t worried about it though, claiming that this is something that can be easily resolved by letting things take their course.
Specifically, she’s counting on Jung Mong-joo to pay a visit to Prince Jungchang, which he does. He tries to prepare Jungchang for the eventuality that he will end up on the throne, claiming it’s patriotism that drives him (and it probably does).
Against Jung Mong-joo’s firm belief that Goryeo can only be rebuilt if a legitimate descendant of King Taejo (the first king of Goryeo) takes the throne, Prince Jungchang brings up King Gongmin’s rocky reign. He was a direct descendant, but were things much better because he was king? No.
“I plan to build this kingdom back up again,” Jung Mong-joo replies resolutely. “I believe that is my responsibility as a Confucian scholar. So please, as part of the legitimate royal bloodline, fulfill your responsibility.” The prince agrees to think about it.
Young-kyu reports that Jung Mong-joo met with Prince Jungchang again, and that another more unexpected visitor came after—Traitor Baek Geun-soo, the Nameless man who betrayed Young-kyu and Bang-won all those years ago.
Jung Mong-joo pleads the case of putting Prince Jungchang on the throne to Lee Seong-gye and Jung Do-jeon, citing the fact that they had originally intended to place him and not King Chang on it in the first place.
But Jung Do-jeon can’t shake his suspicion when it comes to Nameless’ involvement, specifically in mentioning King Woo at the very end of it. It stands to reason that the general screamed that last thing before he died since it would lead to the current king being dethroned, and who’d stand to benefit more than Prince Jungchang?
“Do you mean to say that I’m being controlled by Nameless?” Jung Mong-joo scoffs. At Jung Do-jeon’s serious expression, his follows: “Or… do you think I am a member of Nameless?” Jung Do-jeon isn’t sure—wasn’t Nameless responsible for leading him to the New Joseon Cave?
At least he’s willing to believe Jung Mong-joo when he tells his old colleague that his suspicions are misplaced, and moves on to the land reform. He gets Jung Mong-joo to agree that it must be carried out no matter what, even if it means directly opposing Lee Saek.
Prince Jungchang is up to something shady the day before his wedding, and shows it when he happens on his gisaeng bride trying on her dress. He starts crying when he sees her, and tells her that they have to leave tonight. Ah, so that’s what the gold was for—he wants to leave town so he won’t have to take the throne and all the risks that go with it.
Bang-won tells Jung Do-jeon that Traitor Baek, a Nameless goon, has been seen going to Prince Jungchang’s house. That, along with the general’s “Long live the king,” tells them that Nameless clearly wants Jungchang on the throne.
Knowing that, does Jung Do-jeon want to help them put their choice on the throne? “I believe that this moment is an opportunity,” Bang-won continues. “Help my father become king!” But Jung Do-jeon shakes his head no, adding that it’s not his father’s wish either.
“Is this because of Teacher Poeun?” Bang-won asks. “How I envy you. I also heard this long ago… that the two of you held on until the end. One man has looked to create a nation and the other has raised people up. If those two were to join together with the same goal, what could they not achieve? And so, I fear Nameless even more.”
“However,” Bang-won adds thoughtfully, “they sent Poeun. The man you wish to pursue this cause most with, the man you believe we need most to carry out this revolution… is the one who you are unable to speak with about a dynastic revolution.” Plus, it seems like Jung Do-jeon has given up on the revolution since Jung Mong-joo came to the cave.
On that point, Jung Do-jeon firmly disagrees. He’s more for revolution than he ever was before, because Jung Mong-joo is a necessary part of it. “As we move forward with the reform, Poeun will come to understand,” he finishes confidently.
Because Bang-won is Bang-won, he can’t help but ask what Jung Do-jeon would do if Poeun were to fall under Nameless’ influence. If that happens, Jung replies, he’d put an end to Jung Mong-joo. “Are you relieved now?” he asks Bang-won. He is relieved, very much so.
Without notifying Jung Do-jeon, Bang-won arranges for assassins to bring Traitor Baek to him, since he’s currently working as a bodyguard for Prince Jungchang. Meanwhile, Boon-yi asks Yeon-hee to look into Jicheontae, since Gil Sun-mi is supposed to go wherever that is.
Bang-ji has an audience in Master Hong, Grandma, and Gab-boon as he practices his swordsmanship with a cup of water balanced on the blade. He even listens when Master Hong tells him why that method won’t work, but immediately regrets asking him how he created a martial arts method when his own swordsmanship isn’t great when Hong launches into a terribly longwinded explanation.
Master Hong comes to a dead stop in his storytelling when he recalls watching a noblewoman practicing her swordsmanship, suddenly having an epiphany about who could’ve inflicted those fatal neck wounds on the land surveyors.
Officer Nam and Bang-woo also realize that the assassin they encountered with Lee Seong-gye is the same who inflicted said neck wounds. Moo-hyul is on a completely different wavelength, and complains about how the assassin didn’t give him his name. Just that stupid Cheok family name from stupid Goksan, whatever.
Both men turn to him with very serious expressions, leaving Moo-hyul wondering what he did wrong. There’s only one Cheok family in Goksan, and the name that comes up is one we’ve heard before: Cheok Jun-gyeong, aka the great (and historically accurate) general whose legendary swordsmanship skills have been passed onto four generations of his children.
There’s only one possible culprit, and that’s Cheok Sa-kwang, which is another name Gil Sun-mi mentioned when he told the elder Jang Sam-bong who he thought had been able to kill his student. With just one blow.
Master Hong comes to the same conclusion with Bang-ji since he was once a servant of the Cheok household, and that’s where he saw the lady of the house practicing her swordsmanship. It’s the same style that killed those officials and the soldiers protecting Lee Seong-gye, meaning that assassin Bang-ji fought must have been Cheok Sa-kwang.
Gil Sun-mi is well aware that Prince Jungchang plans to make his escape tonight, but knows that Teacher Yooksan has a special method to take care of that. We find the prince fleeing with his bride, while men Bang-won sent to capture Traitor Baek find themselves one step behind when unseen forces shoot the fleeing prince with a poisoned dart.
Though Traitor Baek knows what kind of poison it is, he doesn’t have a store of antidotes on hand. Up walks a man who does have just the right remedy for what ails the prince in the form of Yooksan, but he refuses to give the life-saving antidote without Prince Jungchang agreeing to become king.
“Who are you?” the prince asks shakily. “We have been called many names throughout the centuries,” Yooksan replies jovially. “I have heard that we are referred to as Nameless in the royal family.” He adds that though they didn’t come up with the name, it is a very good one.
As to why he’s here now, Yooksan unfolds a piece of parchment turned dark with age. He claims that it’s a blood contract King Taejo signed when he founded Goryeo to ally himself with them. Since then, they’ve kept a very close relationship with the royal court.
That relationship will matter to Prince Jungchang if he becomes king, since he’d then inherit all of Nameless’ power and connections. Yooksan reminds the prince that should he not take the throne, then Lee Seong-gye will—and if he does, he’ll be sure to kill every member of Jungchang’s family and any of his supporters.
Yooksan: “If you do not wish to drink it, then let it spill. If you do, we shall also cast Goryeo aside and look into another nation.” And then, without waiting to see if the prince will drink the antidote, Yooksan leaves. His bride urges him to drink, but he’s reluctant to become “Nameless’ King.” Drinking that antidote may make him king, but he’ll still be a pawn in Nameless’ game.
It just so happens that Cheok has taken refuge on the same mountain Yooksan cornered the prince on, and his men alert him to this fact before asking whether they should save him from Lee Seong-gye’s men. Yooksan doesn’t volunteer any help, since he doesn’t care either way whether Cheok lives or dies.
Yoon-rang practically begs the prince to take the antidote, claiming that he can think of his next move after he’s ensured he won’t die an agonizing death. And strangely, she assures him that if he does want to run after taking the antidote, there is a way.
Since Lee Seong-gye’s men have roughly located Cheok, Moo-hyul rallies Bang-ji to join him in tracking the skilled assassin down. He agrees, and decides to bring Master Hong along as well, since he worked for the household and should be able to recognize whether the assassin is Cheok Sa-kwang.
They find a slumped figure wearing the assassin’s robes in the forest, and charge Master Hong with identifying the body. He reaches to pull the straw gat covering his face away.
Meanwhile, one of Prince Jungchang’s servants picks up the antidote to beg him to take it, only to get a knife to the back from the men Bang-won sent to capture Traitor Baek. The precious cup and its contents go flying into the air…
Lucky for Bang-ji that he brought Master Hong along, since he surveys the face beneath the gat and surmises that it’s not Cheok Sa-kwang. It is the assassin from earlier, but as Master Hong adds, “Cheok Sa-kwang is a girl.”
Cut to the real CHEOK SA-KWANG, otherwise known as Yoon-rang, Prince Jungchang’s bride. As the cup with the antidote falls with the force of gravity, she expertly grabs a nearby sword to catch it on the flat end of the blade. Ohhhhh.
As Bang-won’s men rush down to attack, she flings the cup into the air like Bang-ji tried to do, fighting them off in the time the cup is airborne. She catches it with the blade before it can reach the ground, all without spilling a single drop.
She brings it to Prince Jungchang, and with tears in her eyes, claims she wasn’t trying to deceive him. “I have simply… simply…” she struggles to find the words to explain. “I simply wanted to live a different life. I grew to hate killing people. That is why I could not tell you. I had no other intentions.” Then she tells him her other/true name: Cheok Sa-kwang.
Everyone else struggles with the unbelievable revelation that master swordsman Cheok Sa-kwang isn’t a man at all, while Master Hong finally recognizes the fallen assassin as Sa-kwang’s older brother.
Offering the cup to her prince, Sa-kwang says, “I shall protect you. I hate the idea of living my life wielding a sword, but that is what I shall do. If I can be of help to you, I will fight by your side. So please, please drink.”
Cheok Jun-gyeong’s last heir to the Goksan Swordsmanship Method, Cheok Sa-kwang.
COMMENTS
What?! Now they’re just being cruel. I’ll grant that the Cheok Sa-kwang reveal was incredibly well done, but Moo-hyul has been waiting weeks of our time (years in the show’s timeline), and for what? No chyron when we’re almost thirty episodes in? What on earth are they waiting for at this point? Whatever it is, it better be suitably epic for how long we/he’s waited. Moo-hyul deserves all the chyrons after this blasphemy, I say! All of them!
I know, I shouldn’t hate when a cool character like Sa-kwang has been introduced to us. And to be clear, I went from mildly tolerating her in every scene to being glued to the screen, wondering how on earth I didn’t see this one coming. I’m happy to be fooled in this case, not just because it makes the surprise more surprising, but because it means all those cutaways to Prince Jungchang and Sa-kwang’s lovey-dovey hour will now have more, I dunno, spark? Meaning? Depth?
Really though, the show did a great job giving us that red herring in the form of Man Cheok, since he truly was very skilled, seemingly even capable of beating Bang-ji in a fairer fight. It was a bit of a letdown then to see that he’d died a lingering death from the wounds Bang-ji inflicted, though I understand now that the show needed him to lead everyone on that wild goose chase, since the grand reveal wouldn’t have crescendoed the way it did otherwise.
I loved it personally, because I really had thought that the assassin might’ve left a dead man in his clothes in order to throw his pursuers off his trail. I fully expected someone else to be there when Master Hong lifted the veil, and was shocked not only to see that it was the same assassin, but to hear that the real Cheok Sa-kwang was not only not dead, but a bonafide girl. And that she was a character that was previously easy to dismiss, which makes me sound really sexist all of a sudden. I mean it in a good way, like it’s awesome to see another strong female character in this show. Just that she was a little boring before. Y’know what, I’ll just stop here.
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1 wonhwa
January 12, 2016 at 7:54 PM
This show does a lovely job with set ups and payoffs, dropping in a seemingly minor detail like the water trick only to bring it back as a central plot point/reveal multiple episodes later. It's one of the reasons I'm not too worried about Moo-hyul's "forgotten" dragon status. I will say though that we sure have an awful lot of characters and (metaphorical) plates spinning at this point. The writers seem to have a clear sense of where they're going so far, but with this many balls in the air, it's awfully easy to drop one (or several).
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comment2comment
January 12, 2016 at 8:23 PM
maybe since cheok sa gwang has an ending sequence, they will give moohyul his too, he might duel with her, beat her , then the ending sequence would appear..
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Thummar
January 12, 2016 at 8:32 PM
But still there MooMyung for ending surprise. How long will it last?
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Kiara
January 12, 2016 at 11:01 PM
At this point there is way too many characters for me to care about the new ones. Han Ye-ri is a fantastic movie actress and I like it that she is the unofficial best swordswoman in Goryeo but it feels more like a distraction to drag out the revolution till episode 40.
I love my Moo-hyul and it's so unfair that he has to prove himself for more than half of the show while the other 5 were given their dragon episodes in the beginning. It's making me very grumpy.
Why did they make him so awesome in Tree? Oh well, I guess those that didn't make it that far needs the spotlight here.
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 8:32 AM
maybe bc MH is the only significant character that continues all throughout TWDR that his development is the most important
and takes the longest to justify his character in TWDR
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 8:53 AM
I'm just a selfish grumpy Moo-hyul fangirl so ignore the rant lol. (I blame Jo Jin Woong and the writers for his awesomeness! in Tree haha).
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 10:47 AM
fangirl as much as you like
actually it just came to my mind when i read your post and wanted to share
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 11:31 AM
Oh I get what they are doing and I'm looking forward to that episode with Moo-hyul in all his dragon glory lol.
He is one of the reason why I'm watching this show. The history is a nice surprise and I'm also learning new things that I've missed before so it's all good.
modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:06 PM
episode 25 was the perfect opportunity to announce Moohyul as a dragon
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 1:01 PM
That's mean that they didn't think it was good enough so his dragon episode will be better :). A girl can only dream lol.
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mango
January 13, 2016 at 5:23 AM
yes! all the "overly long" romantic scenes between the prince and his bride have been leaving me with quite a few question marks hovering above my head and worries that the production team have made a mistake have crossed my mind but this episode really solidified my faith in their abilities.
i'm looking forward to our much belated introduction for moohyul too but the production team have proved themselves time and again which sets my worries for moohyul at ease :)
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Grumpy Lid
January 13, 2016 at 5:38 PM
To be honest, I knew that the boring prince's lover will be important somewhere, sometime. No character came without a precise purpose and didn't leave the screen but at the perfect timing. It would have been to inconsistent with the rest. Many people would comment on that site where you can comment on the top stripe of the screen that she felt wrong and useless and although it seemed so, my instinct told me we have to wait to see. An we SAW. Big time!
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Kween Ramyeon
January 14, 2016 at 10:34 AM
Same here. I do like this actress - she's got an unusual look - and she's intense!
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Grumpy Lid
January 13, 2016 at 5:34 PM
I never ever would have imagined that my favourite all times drama would be a sageuk.
The writing is smooth as woven silk - everything falls into place creating a beautiful picture with no fast forwarding moments but enough time to catch your breath, with enough trust into the viewer's brain, but not overwhelmingly and too hidden into riddles - pure perfection.
Directing is...why did I say directing - is rather conducting an orchestra of the best musicians - everyone knows their score, but the conductor makes them play in pure harmony.
The cinematography is like painting - a master hand that balances light and shadow to subtly induce the right mood, but not too flashy. It feels like an old painting (let's say Rembrandt ).
And not the least the acting - refreshing like spring water - t keeps flowing and it never looses its freshness. I knew that a couple of them were great, but there is nowhere to find a flaw. I often found myself disliking the way in which Ahn Seok-Hwan or Seo Yi-Sook for example portrayed other characters. But here they found the right tone and I their characters are alive and not some caricatures. I will always remember Park Hyuk-Kwon's Gil Tae-Mi, the unexpected show stealer.
What a masterpiece has been this show so far! Again, I am more than surprised that a sageuk keeps me so hungry for the next episode I hope it stays the same to the end.
*** Rant over. Apologies!***
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Lunatic4KD
January 18, 2016 at 5:59 AM
I hear you, @Grumpy Lid - you are stating my sentiments exactly. Tree With Deep Roots has been my favorite sageuk all this time and now it has been surpassed by this brilliant predecessor. I am loving every single moment. AND - more than amazing, I have been able to finally convince my husband to start watching K-dramas because of this and he is loving it. Victory!!!!!
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2 don'tknow
January 12, 2016 at 8:09 PM
I may leave this drama and return to watch it from the start again when the show is complete, because I'm starting to get really confused with the Cheok Sa-kwang talk, like everyone is talking about this character when I don't remember it being on the show, or maybe I need to really concentrate.
Also, I feel that you should have a background knowledge about the real characters to get the full picture.
Who is real and who is fictional ?
Great work and cast that's why I'm going to put on hold to marathon it.
It reminds me of QSD.
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crazyahjummafan
January 12, 2016 at 9:39 PM
Instead of leaving the drama, do what I did...watch the earlier episodes while waiting for the new ones to air. It helps to watch concurrently. Helps me to remember what had been said or done earlier.
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shirayukihime
January 12, 2016 at 9:44 PM
If you are really interested,you can check out in soompi:six flying dragons.. they provided info there,everything you want to know...background info of the fictional characters and non fictional.. ...
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Kiara
January 12, 2016 at 11:09 PM
Most of the characters in QSD existed in history. If the Hwarang Segi was proven to be an authentic historical records then I'd say that all the main, secondary to 3rd characters were all part of the history.
SFD is a bit more challenging with so many historical figures mixed with fictional.
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 6:39 AM
You can always ask if you need help understanding these characters. We may not know everything but questions can lead to interesting and deeper discussions.
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3 nanachan
January 12, 2016 at 8:09 PM
Hong is suspicious from the start. I have the same question bangji had, why on the earth,a teacher of master swordsmen bad at fighting? More than that, its hard to understand he lived in a small village when he can open a real and big matrial art school right down town. the name of Gil twins would enough to make it. Rather than teaching poor villagers like moo hyul.
Still remember Hong tried to stop mo hyuul expose his skill. for what? Was hong planed to hide moo hyull as a secret assassin for nameless? which totally failed when moo hyuul joined Lee song gye army. But, in other way, gave hong reason to stuck in Grandma under wing (strange, he is not just a man but a teacher of master sword men, how can he felt comfortable lived that way)
My guest is, he want to spy Lee song gye family by his own eyes. its sooooo twdr flavour isn't?
one more proof for hong to be on the top of suspicious character is his word to bang ji. he said the move of "catching a cup of water" bangji always practicing won’t work, but than we saw yoon rang did the move perfectly. Is Hong just dont want bangji getting more dangerous? whay? is he the leader of nameless? still 21 episode to wait...
#bad engglish, yes i know. my only goal is you understand what i try to tell, lol. sorry for that#
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crazyahjummafan
January 12, 2016 at 9:37 PM
One of the reasons why Hong told Moo-hyul not to show his skill was to give the impression that Moo-hyul was still in the process of learning, so that his Grandmother would have to still pay him in kind for teaching MH. It was mentioned as a scam.
But I get your drift. It is possible for him to be the master-mind behind Nameless. They know more than they should, as if an insider was providing them with info. If that is the case, Hong is the best bet.
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 9:36 AM
actually when he explained about how he sees it although can do it
it reminded me of choreographers that although soem became ones after retiring from dancing there are plenty who are not good enough as dancers
and since fighting (sword fighting as we have here) is very much like dancing i think it really makes sense that HDH is not a well enough fighter although he can teach it well
but there is a chance that he will surprise us in the end
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:12 PM
I was also suspicious of Master Hong but he was discussing the King's gift with Grandma in front of Bangwon which was the clue that helped Bangwon uncover the planned assassination attempt. If he was a part of Nameless would he help leak this info? I do think Nameless wants Lee Songgye dead cause they have tried to kill him before and they tried to have Banji leave town.
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nanachan
January 13, 2016 at 11:41 PM
the king's gift wasn't secret. it has been notified to lee family before, so they can prepared banquets or anything nesesery. this info is nothing suspicious without the secret pharase boonyi got.
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4 Xingii
January 12, 2016 at 8:15 PM
Amazing episode as always, I went in with the assumption that Cheok Sa-kwang was actually a member of Nameless, only to have that assumption thrown back in my face. (in the best way possible!) The reveal was breath taking. Another strong & surprising female character in this drama is always welcome.
I'm actually not TOO mad that Moohyul hasn't earned his status yet, as amazing as he already is, he still has quite a lot to learn and there's so much more that he will be capable of in future episodes. He's still finding his path, which will be more than just fighting strong guys just to add their names to his resume.
I actually have a hunch as to how he will earn his dragon status. I think he is going to have to fight Cheok Sa-Kwang and defeat her. He has ALWAYS had a "weakness" for women, so who better to be his biggest challenge to overcome, than a woman that has a legendary warrior's skills!?
Either way, I don't doubt that his status reveal will be absolutely epic and well executed, I trust this production team so much. ;A;
This drama is absolutely brilliant I have no words other than just excessive gushing. Ugh. Love it! My mind is so blown *w*
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:17 PM
I hope you are right that Moohyul will get his big dragon moment in a future episode
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Kween Ramyeon
January 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM
I also think Moo Hyul is not quite there yet - he's improved so much in his skill, but he's still not at Bang Ji's level. Also, while he's as sweet as any puppy, he's still got that slight immaturity about wanting to be the best, sometimes having that take priority.
I think it'd be a moment where he'd fully come into his own - as the best swordsman and as no doubt, a full-fledged dragon of his own importance. Not just following the rest around.
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Xingii
January 14, 2016 at 8:16 PM
I don't think Moohyul would ever get to "Bangji's level" considering what was explained in Tree with Deep Roots, in that Moohyul said that he had fought Bangji but Bangji won against him fair and square.
I totally agree about his priorities, I think that when he fully shifts to having his purpose "protecting others" instead of wanting to "be the best" then we will actually get somewhere with his character. Bangji already said that Moohyul is at his strongest when he needs to protect people. He knows this, but he has yet to fully embrace it and prioritise it above trying to achieve his fame as a swordsman.
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5 Mag Mag
January 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM
I couldn't agree more, every week I eagerly sit in-front of my screen wait for our Moo-hyul's special dragon introduction and week after week I have been disappointed ... there only twenty more to go, please writer-nim! Please!
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Thummar
January 12, 2016 at 8:29 PM
I agree with you. I leave all of my work just to see this Drama and want to know about MooMyung but there is no clue, about who it is.
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6 don'tknow
January 12, 2016 at 8:20 PM
I have a question about the real LBW, how come that he is known as a killer when he is also known as a king who cared about his people!?
I don't get him!
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wonhwa
January 12, 2016 at 9:15 PM
I'm not an expert on the history, but my understanding is that he primarily killed family members (his own and his wife's) and aristocrats whom he viewed as a threat to his claim on the throne and to the survival of the still fragile nation of Joseon. This ruthlessness allowed him to achieve a relatively stable central government, freeing the ordinary citizens from the chaos of the late Goryo years and allowing him to push through much needed reforms. I think it's interesting that this drama is willing to explore when and how bloody means might justify positive ends, and I'll be curious to see how that theme develops in the second half of the show.
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just me
January 12, 2016 at 10:36 PM
he's relatively known as a king who killed many of his rivals (inclusive his own families) to gain power. Still he managed to rule the nation effectively.
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Historyteller
January 13, 2016 at 5:44 PM
Well, the most critical threat to new created Joseon was political insecurity drawn by many founding contributors. The power of king had been so weakened by over-powered officials (like JDJ), which probably could have driven baby Joseon into political chaos of power game. Yi Bang-won (aka Taejong) swept them out whoever threatened King's power including his wife's family and his daughter-in-law's family.
However, he also wisely adopted many talented officials who criticized him for the right thing, and persuaded Goyeo's last loyal officials to come out and help him - Those people adopted by Taejong bloomed later serving King Sejong.
Also, Taejong himself was famous for loving his people. For instance, when a large swarm of locusts ate all the crops over the nation, he ate a living locust saying 'eat my gut rather than my people's crops'. He also improved slavery system so that many talented people could display themselves (which enabled Korea's greatest scientist Jang Young-sil to be an official), and built a large drum in front of palace so that any people could beat it to complain of an injustice directly to the king.
Well, surely he was not so ethical when it comes to his political rivals. However, it's also true that he built a solid political foundation over which he tried so hard to improve common people's wealth by implementing various legislation for them. Without Teajong, his son Sejong, the greatest king of Korea, couldn't have peacefully operated Joseon. (I believe Seajong couldn't have created Hangul, the Korean letter, overcoming all of the severe oppositions by his officials)
-Sorry if there were any grammar mistake, I'm not a native English speaker
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nanachan
January 13, 2016 at 5:56 PM
thanks for the eksplanation historyteller!
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don'tknow
January 13, 2016 at 8:59 PM
That was a very interesting read. Thank you so much, very appreciated.
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Historyteller
January 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM
It was my pleasure! ;)
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shirayukihime
January 17, 2016 at 8:01 PM
thanks..i like reading your comment about him
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 9:11 PM
Let me the devil's advocate here for the other side of history that is often forgotten or not mentioned.
First, Goryeo's history was written by the very people who destroyed it from their point of view.
Obviously Bang-won (King Taejong) was a capable king as evidence, Joseon advanced during his reign. Yay!
He killed a lot of people to get to the throne including his own half brothers, his in-laws, his son's in-laws, etc. This was not mentioned in his own annal (oops). Apparently he did not want to be remembered as a tyrant.
Taejong created the Shinmungo system. A means of communication between the king and his citizens where the people's complaints, just about anything from governments to farmlands etc can be heard.
This system also turns out to be a way for the king to find traitors through the system and punish them. The whistleblowers were rewarded for informations on traitors. Pretty awesome ha?
Anyway, Goryeo's history is pretty interesting :). I'd take it with a big grain of salt.
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shirayukihime
January 14, 2016 at 12:19 AM
XD..thanks..i didn't know that...
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7 Thummar
January 12, 2016 at 8:27 PM
Yoon-rang is CHEOK SA-KWANG and still there is no finding about who is running MooMyung, I am really getting anxious and want to know as soon as possible. Is there anyone who can guess about MooMyung group? Everyone is following "THAT PERSON's WISH", but why there is no name or any other clue to identify his name? Is he Lee-Saek, or CHEOK SA-KWANG or it is Yeon-hyang (Lee Bangji's mother) who is running MooMyung?
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Kiara
January 12, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Lee Saek is Sambong (Jung Do-jeon's) teacher. Teacher Yooksan would be the dude that belongs to Nameless.
My only guess was based on the history. King Gongmin, Queen Noguk and Lee Seong Gye's common enemies and the most obvious would be Yuan's Empress Ki.
Yooksan kind of threw me off in this episode. Why is he a part of Nameless? He should be with the Goryeo elite based on his family background.
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 6:06 AM
We are getting more clues about Nameless in this episodes.I haven't seen the full episode yet so I'm going with Head's recap.
-Yooksan said that that they have been called by many names throughout the centuries.
That means they have been around way before King Gongmin took the throne.
Maybe they exist to preserve the true royal lineage since their blood contract with King Taejo, the first king of Goryeo. Lee Seong-gye is not of royal blood and if he becomes king, it will be the end of the Wang lineage.
I'm trying to figure out the connection to King Gongmin and Queen Noguk. Noguk was a Mongolian princess. Maybe they did not want a Mongolian king to rule over Goryeo so they had to eliminate her and her baby.
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Goryeo became a vassal state of Yuan during King Wonjong's reign (24th king of Goryeo). His son King Chungnyeol was forced to take a Mongolian queen and every king after him all the way to King Gongmin (31st ruler).
Prince Jungchang later King Gongyang was a seventh-generation descendant of King Sinjong (20th ruler of Goryeo) so he is the only one left with pure royal blood that isn't mixed with Mongolian blood.
I can see why they (Nameless) are supporting and protecting Jungchang.
Lee Seong-gye and his team obviously will destroy King Gongyang and every member of his family just like Yooksan said. That will be the end of the Wangs, the lineage of King Taejo, the first king of Goryeo.
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shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 1:06 PM
thanks for the info.. my mind is going blank with this mystery.. my suspects are the haedong gapjok.. something about them..
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 1:37 PM
You could be right :). I'm just guessing.
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 5:37 PM
Oh wait, that makes a lot of sense. Now I get why Yooksan is part of Nameless (if they are indeed Haedong Gapjok). Since he said that they have been around for centuries then it makes sense. Haedong Gapjok existed for centuries even way back as far as Shilla or Unified Shilla (I forgot). The elite nobles that owned the majority of the land that had been handed down for generations.
They probably made a blood contract with King Taejo so they can co-exist and that's why they have been untouchable until King Gongmin's reform and they are about to be rid of their lands and power with Jo Joon's land reform.
King Gongyang would be their last hope if they can manipulate him.
So basically we are thinking along the same thing. We just needed to identify Nameless and their motives and I think we found another possibility that makes sense.
Thummar
January 13, 2016 at 6:08 PM
I also agree with you, that might be Haedong Gapjok. As they have 700 years long time in Goreyo and also they had never been active participants in Dodang. So this might be better guess. Let's see in 30th episode how they move forward.
shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 6:11 PM
i didn't think that.. that must be why they do everything to stop Jo Joon??
okay thanks for the info..they said at ep. 30 that they use Hong Ryun as their sword to kill King Gongmin...They must have hated him.. and also maybe they have something to do with Queen Noguk's death..
Kiara
January 14, 2016 at 8:51 PM
@Thummar
Yes they existed before Goryeo and continued with Taejo was the first king. I think it's amazing that such an organization existed this long covering 2 different dynasties.
@shirayukihime
Yes they are the ones trying to stop Wujae's (Jo Joon) land reform. Gongmin weakened their power with his land reform. I think they are going to claim responsibilities for his death like a terrorist group lol.
Thummar
January 20, 2016 at 9:25 AM
@Kiara, so I was right to guess that Yeon Yang is head of MooMyung ans she is running every move of Goreyo, I just saw it in 32nd episode at 00:17:30 time-stamp. I just made a guess by weird facial expression of her in all previous episodes and after explanation of Boon Yi that her mother was not kidnapped but abandoned Bang Ji and Boon Yi. Still so anxious I am. Let me see more and comment other details later.
8 nomad
January 12, 2016 at 8:38 PM
This drama always knows how to leave for the next episode with the biggest bang. I completely didn't see that coming at all! (not that I'm good with this kinda thing)
Also, can I just say...Six Flying Dragons has given me several awesome strong women characters! Woot!! The reveal was...!!! (fill in with your favorite adjectives)
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redfox
January 13, 2016 at 10:57 AM
I was extatic about the women first but then started thinking if half of them are made up, how sad... like there is not anyone in real history to rely on? if we need a great female hero, we have to make her up?
on the other hand, the fact they did add these characters shows we are thinking along similar lines, that this is what the viewers need.
I am so torn, but yet grateful
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Queen Noguk and Lady Min ( Queen Wongyeong ) would have been the real strong women of this era if they were the main focus. Being a prequel to TWDR which was based on a fictional story makes it difficult so I think that's why they have to use fictional women.
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shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 1:08 PM
I hope so....I like Queen Wongyeong...
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 1:06 PM
i believe that there were strong women then - it is always a matter of character as well as there are week men there were always also strong women even among the commoners and peasants only it is not recorded
so for me the writers give a voice to these women that were never acknowledged bf
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9 Lincoln Gu
January 12, 2016 at 9:40 PM
Okay, but Cheok Sa Kwang seems a bit young. Did she kill Zhang San Feng's disciple when she was 5 years old?
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shirayukihime
January 12, 2016 at 9:50 PM
maybe there's two cheok sa kwang...or cheok sa kwang is just a name given to a best swordsman.. maybe the one defeated the disciple is the cheok sa kwang who was retired. and that girl is the new cheok sa kwang.. she thought her name is cheok sa kwang but she was brainwash..
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earthna
January 12, 2016 at 10:05 PM
She just looks young but I bet she's older. The actress playing her is 31 years old. Say in the drama, she's 25, she would have been 15 10 years ago and capable of doing just that.
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Kiara
January 12, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Considering that Bang-won killed 3 grown up college bullies at age 12 I am not surprise if she was only 15 when she killed Feng’s disciple.
Sometimes you just need to roll your eyes and move on lol.
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shirayukihime
January 12, 2016 at 11:57 PM
that's another biggest mystery here..whether he killed those 3 with his sword skills or just using his brain..i wanna see that scene...
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 6:42 AM
Maybe both. He was covered with blood even though we didn't see him actually kill anyone.
shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 1:09 PM
yeah.. I've been waiting for that in every episodes.. seriously when are they planning to let us watch that. In the instagram, there's a picture of Nam dareum (young King Taejong) practicing swords and martial arts..
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM
He is a son of a Commander with his own army. How can he not teach Bang-won how to use a sword.
Commentcomment
January 13, 2016 at 5:00 AM
Yeah it is shown in episode 30, she is probablg around that age
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM
stop posting spoilers
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comment2comment
January 13, 2016 at 8:24 PM
didnt say spoilers was just saying she looks around that age.. never said what happened :)
sunnyl
January 13, 2016 at 5:45 AM
Viewers seemed to have problem with that. Anyway it was unexpected reveal - Yoon-rang is the swordsman Cheok Sa-kwang who is related to famous warrior Chuk JunKyung (who was born poor but earned his fame defeating Jurchen under king Sookjong who became king in 1095).
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 6:50 AM
Is this a thing of legend or was she really related to warrior Chuk JunKyung by blood?
The only female to wield a sword in history that I'm familiar with was Queen Noguk. When Kim Yoon sent assassins to kill King Gongmin, Queen Noguk came out and fought them off to protect her husband.
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sunnyl
January 13, 2016 at 3:05 PM
Cheok Sa-kwang is fictional character, and Cheok Joon-gyung is real history figure, so it is just implied that she is offspring of the general.
I don't remember many swordswomen in dramas, but Age of Warriors had some interesting ones.
And Queen Noguk was awesome, wasn't she? Actually I was struck by the actress's beauty in Shindon. (There were only twice when I marveled at the beauty of actress in dramas - one was Park Joo-mi from original Hu Joon (she was Gwanghae's mom), and the other was Noguk Gongju in Shindon (I don't know why but I am yet to be impressed by JJH, KTH, SHG's beauty).
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM
Yes, obviously she is fictional because she is not King Gongyang's queen. I was just confused with the mentioned of her name in relation to a historical figure like warrior Chuk JunKyung. I thought that maybe I was mistaken.
I need to finish "Age of Warriors", thanks for mentioning it.
Yea, Queen Noguk was pretty darn awesome. I almost had a girl crush on Seo Ji-hye in Shin Don lol. She was gorgeous and she'll always be Queen Noguk to me.
Giegie
January 13, 2016 at 7:49 AM
I don't know if you noticed it but there's a flashback scene in this episode where she told the prince that she killed someone when she was young, she was probably talking about that man.
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10 crazyahjummafan
January 12, 2016 at 9:50 PM
I cannot express how much I love this drama, except with the word WOW!
I love the fight scenes but this episode wowed me with the revelation of Cheok Sa-kwang!
When the bowl went flying through the air, I knew instinctively that someone would catch it, but never expected her to do so. So when she swiped the sword and caught it with the blade, I was slack-jawed and could only say "Wow!" Then, when she threw it up in the air again and while it was still in the air, fought off the attackers, I gave another "Wow!" The biggest WOW was left to the last, when she re-caught the bowl WITHOUT A DROP SPILLING!!!
"So that's how it's supposed to be done!"
Lee Bangyi had better learn how to do that quickly or he'll be in big trouble!
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nanachan
January 13, 2016 at 12:06 AM
i felt she must be has matrial art skill when saw her dance. but she turn out as famous Cheok Sa Kwang, and catch the bowl without spilling a single drop, is big WOW!
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Commentcomment
January 13, 2016 at 5:01 AM
Shes really daebak in her scenes in ep 30, and shes seriously fast
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM
stop posting spoilers
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comment2comment
January 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM
never said anything related to spoiling what happened, just complementing her.. -_-
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11 earthna
January 12, 2016 at 10:00 PM
I share your sentiments, Heads. 30 episodes in and Moo Hyul still don't have a title. Ugh.
Anyway, I had goosebumps all over when it got revealed that Sa Gwang is a girl like omg are you serious?! Then she did that technique that even Bang ji couldn't do. Just wow.
I didn't quite get the lovey dovey scenes as well but now it makes sense. I came to understand the two's longing for each other and why their love was so passionate. He just wants to live normally, not a king, and she just wants to live as a woman not wielding a sword. The world is so messed up. To think that someone in Goryeo wants to live as a woman and not a swordsmaster? Whoa. Poor girl. I want a happy ending for both of them but yeah...
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Adal
January 14, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Poor girl? Poor man! I feel so sorry for him. He's being forced to be king when all he wants to do is live quietly with the love of his life.
And Po Eun whether he believes it or not is being manipulated by the Nameless organization. Sometimes it is not good to be so transparent and predictable...
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12 Lisa Purba
January 12, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Omo omo! I thought Yoo Rang is just yet another character of all these bunch of characters I was almost worried. But yay to the revealation! I'm happy that the famous Cheok Sa Kwang is a woman!!
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Lisa Purba
January 12, 2016 at 10:27 PM
*revelation
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13 Lisa Purba
January 12, 2016 at 10:36 PM
I can feel you, Heads. To me, there are too many characters in this drama, I feel like they are just passing by. They show up for several episodes and then disappear and are replaced by the new characters. I don't even wanna talk about the development of the main characters. Plenty of real persons in the history (Jeong Do Jeon, Lee Seong Gye, Lee Bang Won and his wife which I even already forgot her name, and Moo Hyul...sighhh) don't get the "character in-depth". Ratings for episode 30 broke the highest record tho.
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14 redfox
January 12, 2016 at 11:15 PM
I refrain from reading since I am pretty close to catching up, I am midway down ep 27...
but if you put Bang Ji´s face on top and speak of fights and swordsmanship, I am tempted for spoilers
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nomad
January 13, 2016 at 8:57 PM
Are you finally caught up, red? Come and join this party with us. Not many would stay with sageuk in DB since it's soooo longgg, but I found this drama hold my interest (my first 50 episoder ever!)
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redfox
January 14, 2016 at 4:29 AM
I have now!
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15 kookicookie
January 12, 2016 at 11:52 PM
I just want to say how much I absolutely love this drama. It doesn't even feel like its 30episodes in. well...it feels tedious when I'm waiting for subs but other than that IT'S SO GREAT AND YAY FOR HISTORICAL DRAMAS.
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16 Shinubi Wang
January 13, 2016 at 12:26 AM
I would like to see less fight scenes but Sa-Kwang was adequate. She quickly disposed of the two men who came to abduct the Prince while revealing to us who she really was. That was good!
The drama should be about plots, twist and turns and finally we are seeing more of these. My Boon Yi's mother have yet to come and I am anxiously awaiting it.
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redfox
January 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM
well, I want to see more fight scenes. I want more ninjas, and assassins, and female swords...ehem.
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:25 PM
we all want to see fight scenes, usually we don't get this many in one episode or we have one episode of politics and the next episode will be action
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Adal
January 14, 2016 at 12:02 PM
@redfox
Me too!
If this is a representation of how strong women of Goryeo were (mighty and strong in their own right) then I truly feel sorry for the women born during the Joseon era. No wonder the women of Joseon had to cross-dress and pretend to be men to enjoy the same privileges that men had!
I'm soooo loving the depiction of strong women in this drama. Not just physical strength and sword skills, but intrigue, cunning, intellect, and organizational skills. There's quick thinking Boon yi who quickly figures things out on her feet, and has the respect and admiration of her elders; educated and intellectual Lady Min; enterprising Cho Young, the head of a spy organization; clever and stealthy Yeon hee, the bad ass double crossing spy; and now we add bad ass, top martial artist Chuck Sa kwang to the mix.
All I can say is...bring it on!
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sunnyxshin
January 17, 2016 at 2:21 AM
Yes yes and yes!
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM
it is still really unclear what BY mother part is
for now she just escorts the old women\leader she is not part of the planning or hav any information as far as we know
so there is a very small chance that she isnt a real part as noname as much as GSM
im very curious also bc it seem she is not one of the leaders or spies or someone important so maybe she was threaten in some way that was not yet disclosed to us
or made a promise that her children will be left to live if she goes quietly with that messenger
well... i guess will know soon hopefully
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 12:15 PM
Now that we know who their mother is and that she is still alive, I can't help but wonder who their father is. I know it's not as important but part of me hopes that Gil Sun-mi is their dad. He is the one with the heart in a seemingly scary and heartless terrorist organization. They are like the suicide bombers of today...If the mission failed they just kill themselves.
Sageuks, seems to be than more than just connecting the past with the present at times. Sometimes it feels like there is some kind of hidden propaganda behind it or maybe I'm overthinking it lol.
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 12:24 PM
i had that feeling of GSM is their father since he tried saving LBJ by making him a pupil of that swordsman
and when h met BY he paused after seeing her eyes so i had the feelings
but since i donnt trust my feelings here and also iam yet unsure if their mother is really part of the organization or is threaten i think it can be that he just knew that she was forced to separate and tried to help them
if he is their father why didnt he visit them bf even just as an ajashi
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 12:33 PM
actually when reading your last paragraph it reminded me that when i saw ep 29 and BY said the password to the swordsman it felt like the meaning behind the words "the one with noname will not disappear" it meant the future
as in those who have no name - not born yet
will not disappear - the future generation will sure to come
and therefore represented by BY and it is so befitting that she should say those words
since she is fighting for the future generations and actually also represents us or the S.K that is now
but maybe its just me
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 1:14 PM
nara I'm the same way when it comes to Sambong's plan. It's too bad that it didn't work out in his time. Maybe that's why I'm on his side over Poeun and Bang-won. One worshipped the rotten monarchs and the other ruled with absolute power. I wouldn't want to live in their world.
nara
January 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM
im also a JDJ person and would have followed him if i was born then and as brave as BY
i know i wouldnt be royalty so BY is probably my option
shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 3:43 PM
we don't even know if it will work out. The Joseon will not last for 5 centuries if there no kings such as King Taejong, King Sejong,King Sejo, KIng Seongjong, Gwanghaegun, King Sukjongg, King Yeongjo and King Jeonjo...
I just hate the fact that he used LSG to establish Joseon...how is he sure that Joseon ruled by ministers will be different from the waning years of goryeo?? isn't that the reason of the fall of Goryeo cause of the ministers fighting each other for power, and they even installed a puppet king that will follow them..
JDJ is a genius.. He is much advanced.It's like he had the insight what will happen in the future when there's no use of monarchy..I really wish i would know what happen if there's no king taejong and king sejong...if Jdj succeed, what would happen?? do you think there will be peace?? Or is he sure that what happen during the late years of goryeo dynasty will not happen again??
crazyahjummafan
January 13, 2016 at 3:50 PM
@nara @ Kiara
LOVE your Star Wars association!
Especially Moo-hyul as Chewy!!! Both big and loyal...not so sure about hairy though.
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 8:28 PM
I would prefer Jeong Do Jeon's plan to Poeun's and Bang-won's. That's what we are talking about here.
Poeun (Jung Mong-joo); believes that all court officials and ministers should only aid the king. (rotten or not?)
Sambong (Jeong Do-jeon): believes that the people should have the power to change the king if he is not up to the expectations. (easier said than done)
Bang-won: believes in absolute monarchy. (I'm capable and I'll get things done)
I'm not going to try and interpret the bias history. I'm a commoner so I'll pick the plan by the person who lived among the commoners.
modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM
I also like the theory that Gil Sunmi is their father, he has repeatedly either helped them or allowed them to escape unharmed. Plus it seems weird to me that he isn't angrier about Banji killing his brother.
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM
Would it be cool if we get a Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker moment with Gil Sun-mi and Bang Ji?
Ok now I've gone completely nuts lol.
nara
January 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM
and BY as Lea and BW as Han Solo and i gauss MH as Chewbacca?
Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 1:26 PM
Lol Moo-hyul as Chewy. Yoon can really sigh like Chewy, really...I like his reactions when he doesn't get the name of his opponents. Those are his Chewbacca moments lol.
Better romance for Princess Bong Yi and Bang-won.
nara
January 13, 2016 at 1:55 PM
he does give a chewy vibe when he fights i here his hurrrr of chewy MH is a flying chewbacca
the more i watch the more i see SW here
crazyahjummafan
January 13, 2016 at 3:51 PM
@nara @ Kiara
LOVE your Star Wars association!
Especially Moo-hyul as Chewy!!! Both big and loyal…not so sure about hairy though.
Posted this comment earlier in the wrong place.
Adal
January 14, 2016 at 11:15 AM
@thelady.
Good points. Why ISN'T Gil Sun Mi angrier with Bang ji for killing his twin brother? I know Gil Tae Mi brought a lot of this on himself, but blood is blood after all. Gil Sun Mi seems almost blasé about his twin brother's death.
redfox
January 13, 2016 at 1:22 PM
talking about hidden messages and theories, I am suddenly getting a weird parallel between Nameless and Gwi
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 1:57 PM
Like someone said in earlier episodes. So many drama worlds colliding.
17 Max
January 13, 2016 at 4:45 AM
I was not suspicious about the connection of Gil family with Hong. Because Gil Tae Mil said he was poor boy and he got his position with his skills. But how does Hong know about Cheok family?
Also, Le Song Ye got his title two times. But Muhyul is still waiting. Maybe he will kill Jeong Mong Jo for getting his title and it will be the end of his loyalty to Bang Won.
One more thing is Gung Ye who is the prince of Shilla. Maybe SFD writers try to create connection between SFD and Queen Seondeok?
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 6:19 AM
"But how does Hong know about Cheok family?"
Wasn't he a servant for the Cheok family or am I dreaming this up?
Right now I don't care who Moo-hyul kills except for Poeun (Jung Mong-joo). I think they should follow the history and Jo Young-Gyu should be the one to kill him.
I'd rather have Moo-hyul take out Cheok Sa-kwang to prove himself as a master swordsman.
Who is Gung Ye? I guess I need to watch the episode first lol.
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Giegie
January 13, 2016 at 8:06 AM
Hong told Bang-ji that he was once Cheok family's servant, but I wouldn't surprise if he turns out to be Sa-gwang's teacher & the head of Nameless.
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 8:32 AM
That's what I thought too, that Hong used to be a servant at for the Cheok family. Somehow my comment is awaiting moderation for some reason lol.
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18 mango
January 13, 2016 at 5:31 AM
sigh studying for exams now and trying to save these episodes as a reward after finishing my topics for the day but man the next episode is like calling out for me to watch it now so. tempting.
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19 redfox
January 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM
I have caught up to the last ep now, waiting for subs for ep 30 what do I do?
If I didn´t loathe tattoo culture then the Nameless symbol would make an awesome tattoo. and it probably doesnt mean "noodles" like some chinese characters people have tattooed on them. do koreans get tattoos? or is it like a social taboo?
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modestgoddess
January 13, 2016 at 12:30 PM
tattoos are censored on South Korean television but they seem to be becoming more popular
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20 shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 1:38 PM
this is my hunch , guys,.. what if Yeonhyang doesn't belong the nameless.. maybe she's with nameless to spy them..
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nara
January 13, 2016 at 2:03 PM
i also now startin to think that maybe she isnt really loyal to Nameless since they have yet to show her significant to the group and she seems to be doing only menial work, so im starting to doubt she really left her children by choice
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Kiara
January 13, 2016 at 2:16 PM
I am with Moo-hyul's grandma. She must have a good reason. Maybe she left in order to protect them from Nameless.
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crazyahjummafan
January 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM
Most likely. They are quite ruthless.
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Adal
January 14, 2016 at 10:44 AM
@kiara
That's my guess as well. She left to protect her children from Nameless, which means both Boon Yi and Ddang Sae are right. I mean, what loving mother willingly abandons her children?
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redfox
January 14, 2016 at 11:32 AM
many even kill their children though
21 shirayukihime
January 13, 2016 at 6:19 PM
what's Bon Yi's dream? I wanted to know... I wonder why she won't tell it..
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Historyteller
January 13, 2016 at 7:30 PM
She told it before. Go back to her hometown with her brother, have a family and do farming ;)
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22 Shaista
January 13, 2016 at 7:19 PM
Wew finally the story is picking up again. I almost left when Yoorang appeared. But thanks dramagod this episode proved me wrong.
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23 Adal
January 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM
I just finished watching this episode. This show is getting better and better, if that's even possible. I am overwhelmed by how good it is with the twists and turns.
☆☆☆☆☆♥♥♥♥♥¡
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24 I Will Goryeo You
January 14, 2016 at 8:16 PM
Am I the only one who laughed hard when Moohyul's sword stuck on the ceiling in the middle of that fight?
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sunnyxshin
January 17, 2016 at 2:25 AM
No! I laughed so hard as well.
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25 mary
January 14, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Wow again.
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26 May
January 15, 2016 at 10:07 PM
In TWDR there was an enclave that housed the palace workers / slaves. It was an area they controlled... given to them by the king. I think Nameless was originally palace personnel. They had a contract with King Taejo to protect him and Goryeo, and in return they gained wealth and power. Over the centuries Nameless has become more than that and is now loyal to itself above all others. Or maybe Empress Ki. It's making me crazy trying to figure it out. I hope Gil SeonMi is BoonYi and BangJi father. Or at least in love with their mother (hope she didn't willingly abandon them).
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27 Mole
January 16, 2016 at 1:56 AM
Woah that was hella cool.
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