Seo Ye-ji, VIXX’s Hongbin for youth drama Moorim School
by girlfriday
Seo Ye-ji (Last, Superdaddy Yeol) and VIXX’s Hongbin (Feel-Good Day) are the latest additions to KBS’s “global campus youth action romance drama” Moorim School. The series was initially courting Lee Hyun-woo and Yook Sung-jae to headline, but as we know, Yook Sung-jae has already moved on to SBS’s Village instead. There’s still no official word yet on Lee Hyun-woo, which for me would make or break the series (and at this point I can’t decide whether I want him to take it).
The coming-of-age drama is about an unconventional school that borrows its name from the martial arts world, where students are taught life lessons rather than the resume-building standard curriculum. They’ll learn honor, faith, survival, and sacrifice, as they find love and chase their dreams. The project is aiming for a globally diverse cast, and will be entirely pre-produced (this seems to be the trend over at KBS for its 2016 dramas; it’ll be interesting to see how they shake out).
Seo Ye-ji is considering an offer to play the female lead, Shim Soon-deok, while Hongbin has been confirmed for the role of Wang Chi-ang. They’re being reported as the leads, but based on the earlier casting round, I’m pretty sure his role would be the second lead. It’s the character Yook Sung-jae was up for — a half-Chinese, half-Korean boy who’s wealthy and does what he pleases, but is lovable.
So upside, I think that means a bigger name will be cast as the main character. The downside is that I’ve seen Hongbin act. He only has one acting credit to his name — the weekend family drama Feel-Good Day, where he played the maknae daughter’s boyfriend. I just remember cringing. A lot. I’m already iffy on whether I can handle an entire drama where he’s a major character, but if he turns out to be the lead-lead, you and I are parting ways, Moorim School.
Directing is PD Lee So-yeon of Baby-Faced Beauty and Prime Minister and I, and writing is Kim Hyun-hee of Sincerity Moves Heaven and 21st Century Family. Moorim School is looking at a Monday-Tuesday slot in January 2016.
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1 fay17
September 10, 2015 at 3:25 AM
So many school dramas this year.Meh
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2 Caitlyn
September 10, 2015 at 3:28 AM
Ugh, Seo Yeji is such a BAD actress and a nugu. Why does someone like her keep getting offers left and right? She's been stuck in supporting roles for a while but still NO improvement at all. A bad actress like her does Not deserve the female lead.
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Adal
September 10, 2015 at 8:39 AM
She's not bad at all. She did a decent job in Night Watchman's where she was much better than Go Sung Hee, though you could tell she was inexperienced and did a creditable job in Last - the last drama she starred in.
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nethya
September 10, 2015 at 8:49 AM
Are you a fan of Seo yeji? You're defending her continuously. She's a bad actress because sometimes she under-acts and sometimes she overacts. The 2 male leads of Night Watchman are much better than Seo Yeji and that horrendous Go sung-hee.
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Adal
September 10, 2015 at 9:12 AM
@nethya
I'm not particularly a fan of hers, but I am just giving my objective opinion of her acting, which I agree may be quite different from yours and the majority of comments on this board.
In my opinion, she doesn't stink, I've seen much worse acting from actresses who were supposed to be more experienced than her. I agree she's not that great, but I won't call her the WORST actress ever. Saying that " She’s a bad actress because sometimes she under-acts and sometimes she overacts." I can argue about a ton of other actresses, better regarded, who are guilty of quite the same thing. It's called inexperience and she will improve with time.
Should she headline a drama while honing her craft? An argument can be made against that. But in the other dramas I have seen her in, she didn't act in the lead role there so whoever her sponsor is must think she's ready for meatier things.
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tani
September 10, 2015 at 9:16 AM
your opinion but i'm on the same page with everyone else. seo yeji is bad at acting. Go sung-hee is too awful she cannot act her way out of an empty barrel. GSH is the WORST actress ever.
robert
September 10, 2015 at 9:21 AM
@tani
I know right. GSH is the most wooden, most bland, most lackluster actress i ever seen. I don't blame ppl who give her first place in the worst acting department.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 9:24 AM
Not sure things are this logical with your sponsor reasoning given she definitely was not ready for anything she got so far, hence the growing dislike for her since at that point she's being simply inflicted on people. She was also cast as an MC in Three Wheels for god knows what reason and if you thought she was mediocre as an actress, wait till you see her as an MC. It was so painful I had to turn it off. Completely amateur and embarrassing. (Also ruined my Friday night of TV marathoning). They literally shut her up in the next episode because in ep2, she kept giggling and making a spectacle of herself.
That others are worse -in your opinion- is no reason. There must be some capable actresses in their 20's waiting to save the K industry from its continuous loss in quality. Personally I don't think she improves, like at all.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 8:51 AM
IMO she's bad and not improving. NWM was basically her doing googly eyes and she was credited in Last as lead although she had a max of two scenes in each ep. Where she was lackluster. Of course anyone and their mother is going to be better than GSH.
Another thing is that I am in Korea and she has ZERO popular success or at least recognition. I think her most famous stints are basically starring in BB's video and the dating scandal with Yunho. So for her to be cast over and over again makes zero sense.
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nethya
September 10, 2015 at 8:55 AM
@Cledesol
I agree with everything you said. Seo Yeji simply cannot act and still has not improved. Among Korean drama fans in my country, everybody agrees Go sung-hee is a hopeless non-talent and her acting really is so horrible. Anybody can act better than her. She got the #1 spot on my blacklist. I agree with people commentors that she's the worst actress.
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Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 9:01 AM
Lol yeah. Pretty much can get the "at least she's better than GSH" badge. Does not mean anything. SYJ is not far behind. Last was Kind of a luxurious production though, even if it was unsuccessful. This one looks doomed from the get go.
nethya
September 10, 2015 at 9:05 AM
I really despise Go sung-hee for continuously ruining 3 dramas back to back. When I heard plenty of people call her the #1 Worst actress, I think that makes sense because her really horrible acting is too painful to watch. GSH has a bad reputation and she is one of the most hated actresses.
Caro
September 10, 2015 at 9:34 AM
That's weird, I thought she had to be popular in Korea for her to keep getting roles. I don't find her particularly attractive or talented but there are some hyped actors that do nothing for me.
But since kdramas are made with Korean audiences in mind, I just chalk it up to my standards being different from Korean standards.
I thought maybe Koreans found her cute. But now I'm finding out she's not popular there either.
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Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 9:43 AM
No one knows who she is. She got some hype from VIP's because starring as GG costar is bound to get you some attention. She is also infamous in the DBSK fandom. Try to mess with Cassies, see what happens, lol.
Still she keeps popping up next to celebs. Go figure.
gemma
September 10, 2015 at 10:10 AM
How is Seo yeji infamous in the DBSK fandom if she is nugu?
When you said "GG costar", did you mean to say BB/Big Bang? I know VIP is their fandom.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 3:55 PM
@gemma : a portion of a big fandom who holds a grudge = not the public.
She was in BB's "Let's not fall in love", which was everwhere this summer so that gets you hype for sure.
3 natalie
September 10, 2015 at 4:02 AM
haha I laugh at this sentence
"but if he turns out to be the lead-lead, you and I are parting ways, Murim School."
best ever :-)
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kanz
September 10, 2015 at 6:36 AM
Even before I don't know Hongbin's role or if he's the LEAD, I've already parted ways with this drama..
So unless everyone and their mother says positive thing about it, I won't be desperate enough to watch it.
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natalie
September 10, 2015 at 4:47 PM
but its still fun to see news about it even though I won't watch it haha
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4 lordseungri
September 10, 2015 at 4:20 AM
So many school dramas this year wow
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5 3imi
September 10, 2015 at 4:23 AM
I love no one in the cast and school drama are the subject I like the least
I would look "Cheer up" for the cast but I drop that one...
The K-dramas are really bad at the moment, thank you lord She was Pretty starts next week
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6 weirdnshort
September 10, 2015 at 4:57 AM
Weird plot...i haven't watched anything of theirs and am not anticipating much from their acting skills.
Might not check this out...that's a huge risk they are taking prepoducing this.
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7 sonny
September 10, 2015 at 5:01 AM
I have no clue if Hongbin can act and I know Seo yeji sucks at acting...so i'm gonna skip this drama. besides, i dont even like the school genre.
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8 Malia
September 10, 2015 at 5:20 AM
I think I'm already out. She is a really bad actress.
Smells like failure
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stacey
September 10, 2015 at 6:51 AM
Seo Yeji stunk up Super Daddy Yeol and she's a killjoy in the new drama Last.
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stacey
September 10, 2015 at 6:53 AM
Seo yeji was also such a Bad actress in Night Watchman Journal and the female lead Go sung-hee is atrociously horrible. For me and Kdrama viewers in my community, Go Sung-Hee is the #1 Worst Actress.
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Happygolucky
September 10, 2015 at 8:36 AM
I HATE Go sung-hee's guts. Her "acting" is sooooooo bad to the bone. Even at the edge of the abyss, she cannot act to save herself. Seo yeji is not as awful but she still sucks.
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Charlotte
September 10, 2015 at 8:43 AM
I can't stand Seo Yeji's bad acting in super daddy yeol. I only watch Last because of the male leads. Go sung-hee is appallingly ridiculously terrible in Records of the Night WatchMen. I hated her bad acting in Spy and very wooden bad acting in My beautiful Bride. Plenty of people gave Go sung-hee the number one Worst actress title.
Caitlyn
September 10, 2015 at 11:26 AM
tsk tsk tsk Go sung hee's acting is the Most Atrocious acting I've seen after all these years of watching Korean dramas.
9 kanz
September 10, 2015 at 6:34 AM
Dear God, are there no other under 20s actors (or even idols) better than the ones above?
Or are South Korean PDs/producers/casting directors just worship the idols so much they just HAVE TO have at least 1 idol in every drama??
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10 Misstwilightfan1416
September 10, 2015 at 6:54 AM
I Thought Hongbin Was Already Cast In Another Drama Called One And Only You, It's On His Asianwiki Page What About That?
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11 genuinecity
September 10, 2015 at 7:11 AM
Oops, I totally forgot about this drama. Now that I'm reminded of it, I'm bummed that Sung-jae's out. It does sound like a nice twist on the usual hs dramas, so I'll still check it out. But... I haven't seen any of those guys act, and according to everyone here, they're bad news. Aw, poo.
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12 alpha
September 10, 2015 at 7:24 AM
Stupid casting. Get rid of that lead girl. She is so bad. And don't know about Hongbin dude but reading the comments tells that that he is equally shit.
Lee Hyun Woo just drop this trainwreck if you haven't already. I am ready to wait for you in another drama rather than in this one.
Murim high school? More like awkward-acting-rim high school.
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13 owl 🦉 🫰
September 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM
I like the premise, I think I'm up for giving this kdrama the old school try.
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14 pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 7:56 AM
I've only seen Seo Ye-ji in Night Watchman's Journal, and frankly she didn't seem that bad there? A little meh but then I suppose having the abysmally untalented Go Sung-hee as a costar will make anyone look better in contrast.
Her character in Last is pretty standard poor caring girl but frankly, between her and the idol, I'd rather get rid of him. If she's considered bad, he's worse. A lot worse.
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juliana
September 10, 2015 at 8:33 AM
Out of curiosity, I went on social media & asked people Who's this go sung-hee?..and as a result, everybody said she is absolutely horrible. International netizens said Go sung-hee stink bombed three tv series already and some folks even called her worst actress ever.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 11:59 AM
Go Sung-hee was ok in Miss Korea but she had a small role there and it was a great, really well-written show.
but in every subsequent role, she's been terrible - blank, wooden and stiff as hell, like she's constantly thinking of her angles on-camera. NWJ was terrible all around, but she was bad even in the otherwise fantastic My Beautiful Bride.
She's just not fit for lead roles or any significant amount of screen time. It's a travesty that she and Jin Se-yeon get offers for network drama leads while girls like Jo Bo-ah, Jung so-min and Kim Seul-gi get relegated to supporting roles or cable.
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chanel
September 10, 2015 at 12:21 PM
GSH was okay/mediocre in Miss Korea. That drama was watchable but not that great. I'm not surprised it's underhyped and did not become a big hit. NWJ is a really messed up drama, but still GSH's acting is atrociously horrible. She continued to show quite bad acting in the next 2 dramas and showed very little improvement. She hit 3 strikes and failed.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:16 PM
I thought Miss Korea was really solid but stood no chance in the ratings against You From Another Star.
GSH really struck out all three times. She is not an actress who should be offered leading roles going forward, imo - there are much better candidates for those opportunities.
chanel
September 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM
GSH failing 3 times in a row and getting so much criticism for really bad acting in all 3 dramas one after the other...that shows how awful terrible she really is. Such a lost cause.
15 Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 8:22 AM
Seo Ye-ji is a mediocre actress, sure. I still don't understand why her casting in some idol drama is a knock-out criterium for watching the show.
At the same time, when her just as bad or worse colleges like Lee Sang-woo, Lee Soo-hyuk or No Min-woo are cast, people don't seem to be upset at all, quite the opposite. What's the difference?
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juliana
September 10, 2015 at 8:34 AM
Seo yeji is below mediocre. She is BAD.
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Adal
September 10, 2015 at 8:41 AM
She is NOT so bad. It's a matter of opinion. She doesn't have irritating quirks like some actresses I know and she is definitely watchable. Mediocre is a good description of her talents and I think she improves on performance.
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Charlotte
September 10, 2015 at 8:46 AM
Lol, seo yeji is NOT talented. She's getting criticism because some people find her acting definitely un-watchable. I agree she IS a bad actress.
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Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 9:47 AM
Whether you call her "mediocre", "bad" or "BAD" depends on your scale, of course. Very many lead actors and actresses are worse than her, therefore I chose "mediocre".
But my point is: The comments to this news article focus on Seo Ye-ji terrible acting. No word about Hongbin, whose acting is much worse, for example.
Compare that to the news article about Lee Soo-hyuk a little ago. Lee Soo-hyuk is much worse compared to Seo Ye-ji, almost nobody complained about him being cast. Instead people are enthusiatic and the two comments questioning his acting are shot down immediately.
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fab
September 10, 2015 at 10:59 AM
Your hunch is right, clearly there's a double standard at play here. Though most commenters are respectful in their wording, male actors are more favoured than actresses. Always take these criticism with a pinch of salt and judge for yourself.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM
@Jon G. - Lee Soo-hyuk has never yet been cast as the main lead of anything, unlike Seo Ye-ji (who isn't that bad from what I've seen, just lacklustre).
And as for why the comments questioning his acting were shot down, there's been a general consensus on the recaps of his current drama (Scholar Who Walks the Night) that his acting is actually pretty decent there and he isn't just a pretty face.
It's very tempting to whinge about how literally any criticism of a girl is a 'double standard' but sometimes there are actual reasons for that which aren't 'oppa is hot'.
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Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 12:31 PM
I've only watched the first few episodes of "Scholar", but his acting there was awful, much, much worse than anything I've seen from Seo Ye-jin this year.
Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 12:41 PM
I've seen almost the entire drama of Scholar Who Walks the Night. Lee Soo Hyuk is pretty decent and he can act better than the incompetent SYJ.
Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM
That might be true, but No Min-woo has; Lee Sang-woo many, many times; and many other bad actors too.
I don't think Seo Ye-ji has the skill for a first lead role, but this is a youth idol drama. Lead roles in this sub-genre are almost always cast with inapt actors without a public outcry.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:05 PM
@Jon - that's your opinion on Lee Soo-hyuk's acting, but people who've seen everything aired so far tend to differ.
As for the actors whom you claim get a free pass, might I point out that Lee Sang-woo has only been cast in second leads or weekend dramas (which get far less publicity than weekday dramas). Noh Min-woo has never scored a lead role outside of cable or web dramas (one in each case). Neither of them has ever led a weekday network drama in recent years, so your complaints about why no one calls them out are moot - they simply haven't occupied that prominent a position.
And before anyone starts making claims about how crappy but handsome male actors never get hate for bad acting, might I point to Exhibit A: Nam Joo-hyuk, in School 2015.
Also, no matter how fluffy the subject matter is, a weekday drama for a public broadcast channel is a big deal. By all accounts this particular drama is an especially big deal for KBS. The old 'youth drama so crappy actors are ok lol' excuse doesn't fly.
Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 1:35 PM
@pogo
Why do you say that this particular drama is a big deal for KBS? I'm lacking intel on the political level of things as usual, is there anything special going on?
KBS currently features "Virtual Bride" in the Mon-Tue slot, proving that acting skills are definitely not required for a lead role in their weekday dramas. (It's a different format of course ...)
Oh yes, he got a lot of hate during the show. I was surprised, however, how forgiving people are when it came to the casting discussions about him afterwards. He had a lot of people defending him, arguing to "wait and see" and so on, or even positive spins for the specific role he was discussed to be cast in. (Of course, as far as I remember, he wasn't supposed to play the first male lead in a public channel weekday show after "School".)
Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 1:54 PM
@pogo
I do acknowledge that I may underestimate the prestige that still lies in weekday prime time dramas for the public channels. You are right of course that, in the past, first leads in those shows where not part of the "take a few risks" package.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 12:09 PM
also btw, the hate for Seo Ye-ji is because afaik she pissed off an idol fandom by reportedly dating one of their idols.
It's just masked as garden-variety hate based on her acting skills, but make no mistake, this is personal. The mention of 'Cassies' in one of the comments above was the clue.
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Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 12:14 PM
At least for me, I always come here with an unbiased judgment and No shade or hate intended. I think Seo Yeji is bad and cannot act, although she's not as bad as Go sung-hee whom I really think is the number one Worst Actress.
Caro
September 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM
Meh, I couldn't care less about idols and couldn't name a kpop group to save my life. I just find her unbearably bland.
Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 12:48 PM
Afaik, Seo Yeji and her company used a really cheap dirty tactic by taking advantage of the male singer's name, creating the false dating rumor, and quickly denying it just minutes later in order to get attention for the nugu actress. If this is true, then the girl and her company ought to be ashamed of themselves for this kind of noise marketing. What a dirty and desperate tactic!
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:10 PM
@Darcy - why is that dating rumour even relevant to anyone's opinion of her acting skill, though? Why does anyone have to qualify themselves as being from the TVXQ fandom while explaining why they dislike her?
It's not as if she walked out on a drama halfway, dissed her costars/writers, or went and signed a drama while her first drama was in live shoot.
Personally, I find her less bland than the likes of Go Sung-hee, Jin Se-yeon and Suzy. I'm willing to see if she's any better in a full-length drama, though I'm not optimistic.
chanel
September 10, 2015 at 1:13 PM
@pogo
Er, I'm pretty sure most DB commenters are NOT K-pop fans. It's not hate. They just criticize Seo Yeji simply because they agree she's a bad actress.
Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 1:19 PM
@pogo
Let me clarify this. I was simply telling you that...just because people criticize Seo Yeji and call her a bad actress does NOT mean they are pissed off fans of a K-pop boy band trying to hate on the actress. I'm an ahjumma who never listens to K-pop. Same thing with my colleagues but we all dislike SYJ's crappy acting.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:21 PM
@chanel - well, if you say so.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:27 PM
@Darcy - I didn't single you out, but someone here did mention being a part of that fandom on a post where there are comments criticising an actress who had a dating rumour with said idol.
And my past experience with idol fandoms on db makes me very wary of things they say about people they have a grudge against, and the reasons they may have for saying such things.
Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 1:30 PM
@pogo
Don't worry. I'm just glad I gave a clear explanation to you and now there's no misunderstandings.
korini
September 10, 2015 at 1:44 PM
Too much information about a school drama, mediocre actors, even worse idols and a fandom that pops up out of nowhere. Most commenters seem to be teenage girls with too much time to kill and very few things to do. Adults rarely use so intense vocabulary and such aggressive sentences for something so insignificant as a TV series.
I was amusing myself with all that childish trashing and "cyber"-hazing actors I don't personally know but the fandom issue gets things out of proportion. I thought sasaengs grow in Soompi and AKP. How did they end up here..?
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 4:03 PM
You are jumping to conclusions wayyy too fast.
People were wondering why she gets casted time and time again an getting gigs all around while not sticking with the public or being even decent at acting. I was merely explaining how she has associated with big names as mediaplay. Getting hate or getting hype is the same here > You are being talked of and that's the plan.
You could argue the same on a lesser level for so many actresses out there. She is just a severe case.
If she was any capable or well-liked though, I would say I don't reall care.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 4:17 PM
@pogo Same as the rest of my colleagues. You kind of assume people mentioning an element as a mere fact are salty when I think everyone has been civilised here. Thay should give you an indication that no one is a stan in disguise, lol.
Onion
September 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM
15.1.2.2.5 Jon G
There was a small (But vocal!) minority in school 2015 rooting for Nam Joo Hyuk This small (But vocal!) minority tended to comment more on his recent castings, defending him.
That said, I think you're right on the money about people trashing female actors compared to male actors. Throw an male idol vers female idol into the mix and it grows worse.
Comments defending the male actor usually include he's a nice person (Not a comment on his acting ability), he works hard( Again not a comment on his acting ability. ) or he will improve this is his (blank) role, just give him a chance! (a prime time drama is the best place for that and not amateur play?)
Female actress idols or actress are far more likely to be bashed, instead of defended or excused for similar faults.
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pigsnout
September 10, 2015 at 9:27 PM
Female idols fans can be just as bad defending their unni's crappy acting and casting, as male idol fans. The last Suzy post got her fans telling people to fk themselves for saying that she was a crappy actress (jb/gf deleted those comments after it was reported).
Fans of female actresses don't normally behave like that but then I suppose if their bias has some acting talent they don't feel the need to start attacking commenters personally for saying they are lacking.
soapbox
September 10, 2015 at 1:45 PM
Yeah, my problem with the drama audience is that they give men more chances and time to improve/prove themselves than women. They should give women that courtesy too. One bad role for a woman and they're written off forever and people want her to never land another role ever again, while the same people will still continue watching men at the same level of skill. This is probably also one of the reasons why there aren't many rising actresses as there are actors in recent years, the audience's opinion regarding actresses feel more permanent. There ARE people (both genders) that you can tell will never improve no matter how many roles and chances they're given, but there are also inexperienced currently-mediocre ones that you can tell at least has some potential for the future... but they'll never get there if they're smothered at first sight.
I'm not saying they're not allowed to criticize, but at least be fair.
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Adal
September 10, 2015 at 5:29 PM
Preach it!
You took the words right out of my mouth. Why are we so hard on our female actresses?
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pigsnout
September 10, 2015 at 9:39 PM
Yeah but how many chances does someone like Go Sung Hee, Jin Se Yeon, etc deserve before people stop casting crappy actresses like them who show no improvement? Remaining crappy even after 3-4 acting projects in lead roles.... I agree with the person who said three strikes is out. Han Ga In never improved even in ten years.
That also applies to men too. Idols like Taecyeon might be very nice people but he got no business taking up acting roles, after five years he's still that bad (thank god at least they stopped trying to make him a leading man).
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soapbox
September 11, 2015 at 1:42 AM
"There ARE people (both genders) that you can tell will never improve no matter how many roles and chances they’re given"
Jin Seyeon, Taecyeon, Han Gain, etc would fall in that category for me so I don't defend them since they've had years and countless roles. I haven't seen much of Go Sunghee so I can't say one way or the other.
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pigsnout
September 10, 2015 at 9:44 PM
Btw I don't think Seo Ye Ji is that bad as people are saying! She's better than a lot of people who get defended to death for bad acting (especially girls).
but even though they deny it I think the reason she gets extra hate is because of a certain idol fandom snd dating scandal . I don't see this kind of hate against actresses on her level of performance generally.
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Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 11:21 PM
Well then have a look at other threads regarding her where reactions range from inexistant to dispassionate.
It becomes quite clear that some people are getting more and more baffled because she keeps coming back (and also because this project has an idol and weird premises) with no public response. Have a look at her Mcing on Three Wheels instead, I think you shall see my point.
I mentioned it to emphasize how irrelevant she is, people having irrational reactions or calling her ugly for dubious reasons should calm down, coz that's out of line. But there had been à good deal of negative comments already. Now, there are many actresses like her who could possibly start a hatefest. Speaks loads of the state of Kdrama industry.
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esjpx
September 10, 2015 at 3:00 PM
To add to your list, Oh Ji Ho is goddamn terrible yet for some reason keeps getting lead roles right and left and I don't see him getting this kind of hate??
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papage7
September 10, 2015 at 10:24 PM
One must be blind not to see why Oh Ji-ho gets roles "right and left"...or why he became an actor in the first place. Looks and height, my dear! Ladies are not impressed by those when it comes to actresses; instead, they examine every little detail of their performances in the CSI lab, lol...
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korini
September 11, 2015 at 12:45 AM
Whow, sisters! Hands off Oh Ji-ho. We need our eye-candy (he's not even candy he's a whole cake). lol!!
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pigsnout
September 11, 2015 at 2:11 AM
Oh Ji Ho gets roles a lot but it has been years since he appeared as the lead in a KBS/MBC/SBS drama, he mainly gets roles in cable.
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soapbox
September 11, 2015 at 3:18 AM
I don't know, I don't think public or cable is the reason why people react the way they do. If Jin Seyeon got a role on cable or second lead, would people have a nicer reaction to her casting? I'm going to guess no lol. Equally terrible actors still get better reactions than terrible actresses regarding casting. And I'm sure we know why, people are already mentioning he's eyecandy.
16 Caro
September 10, 2015 at 9:10 AM
The only way they could make me want to watch this less would be if they cast PSH, lol.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM
Park Shi-hoo? Yeah, I would definitely avoid this if he was anywhere near the project.
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17 Lizzie
September 10, 2015 at 10:53 AM
well I actually liked Seo Ye-ji in Supper Daddy Yeol and I like school dramas.. plus it's being pre-produced so.. I will probably check it out. :)
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18 Dily
September 10, 2015 at 11:34 AM
Seo Ye-ji is a lousy actress and ugly too. I have seen a lifetime of her in Night Watchman. I never want to see her again.
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Caitlyn
September 10, 2015 at 11:39 AM
SYj is lousy indeed but she's not the worst part of Night Watchman. Go sung-hee is extremely horrible actress (worst actress ever who should get kicked out of Kdramaland) and some people called her ugly, making fun of her big nose too.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 12:03 PM
"ugly"? Seriously, that's not cool.
and everyone in Night Watchman was terrible, if anything she sucked a lot less than GSH.
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Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 12:11 PM
@pogo
No actually, in Night Watchman Jung IL Woo's acting is good and Yunho's acting is decent... Seo Yeji's acting is bad and as I've said before, Go sung-hee is really horrendous.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
September 10, 2015 at 1:13 PM
I found Jung Il-woo lacklustre compared to his previous performances, and Yunho was....better, but still not good. Go Sung-hee may as well have been a cardboard cutout because that's about as much life as she showed.
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Darcy
September 10, 2015 at 1:24 PM
That's why I said he's decent in NWJ, but I think Yunho did pretty good as the main leading actor of his newest drama "I Order You". Of course, I still see a few flaws in his eye acting but he just needs more practice. His band mate did pretty good in SWWTN but I saw commentors saying he needs to improve his voice tone by not sounding mono-tone and he needs to show more natural facial expressions which can be stiff at times. Both guys need more practice but they did pretty good in their last projects.
Jon G.
September 10, 2015 at 1:41 PM
@Darcy
Do you really think that Yunho in "I Order You" was better than Seo Ye-ji in "Last"?
Sure, his role was more substantial than hers (I hesitate to use the term "demanding"), but he doesn't even get the basics right at all there, while Seo Ye-ji at least learns her lines, has some basic emoting down, is able to do some limited voice acting and doesn't stop acting the second her lines end.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 4:28 PM
GSH takes the cake but I honestly did not fin Yunho better that SYJ. His role was more likeable, but I had to jump off the train mid-drama because I was really put off by the acting overall. And it's true that JIW looked kind of off and uninterested in his role this time around. Can't blame him.
Caitlyn
September 11, 2015 at 6:42 AM
@Jon G.
You're giving Seo Yeji too much credit she doesn't deserve and you are under-rating Yunho and did not give him much credit. That is just your opinion but for me and Kdrama viewers in my community, everybody agrees Yunho's acting in "I Order You" is better than Seo Yeji in "Last"....Yunho shows different facial expressions, good eye acting as the drama progresses, changes his tone of voice, and he has good chemistry with his co-stars. On the contrary, Seo Yeji keeps slurring her lines, sometimes her voice tone is monotonous, her facial expressions are too stiff, and her eyes are expressionless.
@Cledesol
In Night Watchman, Yunho's acting is decent overall. The only issue is that he had one face but his acting is more convincing and more tolerable than Seo Yeji's constant switching back and forth from over-acting to under-acting.
Darcy
September 11, 2015 at 6:57 AM
@Jon G.
Your opinions contradicted with pogo above because you think Lee Soo Hyuk is awful and worse than Seo Yeji but many people who saw SWWTN would disagree because they all said LSH is very decent. He can act better than SYJ. Now you're contradicting with me. You think Seo Yeji is better than the male lead of "I Order You" but that is NOT true. SYJ is the one who can't even get the basics right. I agree with everything @Caitlyn said because those are exactly SYJ's multiple flaws in "Last". Yunho shows more emotion than her, better line delivery, better eye acting, better chemistry with his female & male co-stars too. Seo Yeji is far more lackluster because her eye acting and emotions are way out of line. In "Last", she is more like an outcast standing next to the male leads because of her bad acting and her total lack of chemistry with her co-stars.
chanel
September 11, 2015 at 8:13 AM
I see @Jon G. is clearly Seo Yeji biased. You ask a random question out of nowhere and despite the obvious flaws in SYJ's bad acting, you still over-rate her and claim she's better than the 2 male actors (even though nobody here agrees with you)...
I laughed when you said Lee Soo Hyuk is "much much worse than anything I’ve seen from Seo Ye-ji this year"....LOL it's the opposite. LSH in his villain role is more expressive than SYJ in any of her roles. Yunho's sense of humor and variety of facial expressions in I Order You really beats Seo Yeji's lackluster acting in Last. She's such a killjoy & useless compared to the rest of the cast in that drama.
Jon G.
September 11, 2015 at 8:21 AM
I give her credit where credit is due. She has some basics of acting down, that is intersubjectively verifiable. There's not much more to her, and she's not lead material, but that's good enough to make her a mediocre actress, considering the competition.
That's interesting.
His emoting is very flat, he uses two distinct facial expressions and nothing in between, he forgets to use his eyes in many of his more pronounced emoting scenes. His voice acting is terribly bad. He has one single tempo, he inserts unnatural pauses at line memory clusters (typical mistake by people who struggle with memorising their lines) and he has no emotional range in his voice.
Jon G.
September 11, 2015 at 8:32 AM
Honestly, I didn't care about Seo Ye-ji at all until this discussion. I saw in three incomplete roles now (two shows I dropped, the third is not over yet) and I wasn't impressed by her in any of them. She's been less bad in "Last", but the role there is rather boring and not particular challenging.
The question I asked towards Yunho: This very performance by him is, for me, one of the most awful performances of any first lead character I've ever seen in a drama. He has almost no skills and makes almost every single mistake a rookie actor can make.
I'm okay with saying "Seo Ye-ji is a bad actress". But it's entirely beyond my imagination to say "Yunho's acting in 'I Order You' is better than Seo Ye-ji's acting in 'Last'".
Darcy
September 11, 2015 at 8:37 AM
@Jon G.
I don't take you seriously because you are biased towards Seo Yeji and really bring down both Lee Soo Hyuk and Yunho. You said LSH is awful and say Yunho's voice tone is "terribly bad" but in reality, these 2 guys are more charismatic and they can both act better than Seo Yeji. Someone already mentioned most people who watch SWWTN would really disagree with your criticism against LSH.
Among Kdrama fans in Thailand, MOST people praised Yunho's overall good acting in "I Order You". Not just this country but other international viewers too. We can see clearly he shows way more than 2 faces. He uses a variety of facial expressions. Yunho changes his voice tone from angry to happy, sad, frustrated and so on. Seo Yeji is the one with stiff facial expressions and keeps doing the googly eyes instead of showing real emotion. She is the one with very flat emoting and random over-acting.
chanel
September 11, 2015 at 8:47 AM
@Jon G.
"This very performance by him is, for me, one of the most awful performances of any first lead character I’ve ever seen in a drama"....LOL, on Viki where people watched I Order You, NOBODY criticized Yunho's acting. He got mostly praise from the Kdrama audience. I'm Not his fan but I see that he continues to improve and did a good job. Your harsh opinion about him and your claim that Lee Soo Hyuk is awful is just your opinion. Changmin did a good job in Scholar Who Walks the Night but some people stilll think he's a bad actor.
Caitlyn
September 11, 2015 at 8:59 AM
Yunho's acting as the first lead character in I Order You is not the best but it's definitely NOT "one of the most awful performances" like you claim....Plenty of people on koreandrama.org, forum Soompi, and Viki.com said his acting is good. I'm one of many people who agree that he is better than SYJ. Based on comments I saw, SYJ got criticism for bad acting in Last, but Yunho got positive comments for his acting in I Order You and Lee Soo Hyuk got positive reception for his acting in the vampire sageuk drama.
BWest
September 11, 2015 at 9:33 AM
I like Seo yeji but I admit she has no skills. She is getting nothing but criticism here on dramabeans. maybe she will improve. Despite being a casual fan of hers, I agree with the rest that Jung Yunho is better than her. I'm not tone deaf. I can hear Yunho change different voice tones depending on the situation and when the scene changes. I can see him bring out the character's feelings because he showed multiple expressions on his face. He showed more emotions from his eye acting especially when he had to deal conflicts that grew more complicated. Seo Yeji is not the worst but she is bad. Her face, voice tone, and eyes are completely out of place and zero chemistry with the other actors. I completely disagree with your comments @Jon because you exaggerate and you're being too harsh against the 2 guys who did pretty well in their last projects.
thomas
September 11, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Yunho is not great but everything @Jon G. said about his acting in I Order You is really absurd and one of the biggest exaggerations I've ever seen. This is coming from a guy and a non-fan. Yunho did pretty well playing the main character. He, Lee Soo Hyuk and Changmin all improved. From what I've seen all 3 guys can act better than Seo Yeji. She is one of the most lousy actresses.
Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 5:41 PM
Ugly is uncalled for.
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19 alienshore
September 10, 2015 at 12:54 PM
I love Seo Ye Ji but after watching her in the very dark and gritty Last, I really CANNOT see her as a high school student. That is going to be just too weird!
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September 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM
It's also rather disconcerting to realise there's a 15-year age gap between her and Yoon Kye-sang lol.
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20 Elianne
September 10, 2015 at 1:23 PM
Woah I did not expect this amount of hate towards SYJ.
Granted I've only seen her in Potato Star (in which I thought she did a good job playing the shallow youngest daughter. plus her romance with Jang Ki-ha was cute) but has she really been that bad in her subsequent dramas?
I ask because the amount of hate and even personal attacks for things unrelated to her acting seem wildly disproportionate. Like almost no one is talking about her possible co-star who btw, I only manage to watch without fast forwarding anything because his scenes were short; he was that baaaad.
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September 10, 2015 at 1:33 PM
I agree, she honestly didn't strike me as that bad an actress in the bits I've seen of Last - she's not particularly memorable but she's not even close to being as bad as some of her peers who score lead roles.
and um, yeah, that Hongbin chappie is BAD. I hope the role he's got isn't the lead, because to go from Lee Hyun-woo to........this, well, talk about a downgrade.
(it would also be a huge downgrade from Yoon Sung-jae, but you get my point)
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Cledesol
September 10, 2015 at 4:10 PM
Explained before but it's the amout of projects the person has received vs actuall popularity of skills which is disconcerting.
I did not watch Potato Star, hear it was quite good.
Granted all the other actors in this precise one seem horrible. But as far as Hongbin goes, I have never seen him act for example so can't have an opinion.
But truly, sucky idols being cast in shows are-very sadly- kind of a given at this point no? At least, there is a rational explanation why the are cast, because they are going to draw audiences, or so they hope.
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21 esjpx
September 10, 2015 at 3:07 PM
lmao so much salt in this comment section :)
I don't have much interest in school dramas but I'll wait until the cast is finalized and we're given more details before deciding whether to watch it or not.
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22 john
September 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM
LOL So much venom here.
Go Sung Hee, poor baby, I'm not a Bank Guy, but I'll protect you. She was decent there. Nothing outstanding but watchable.
Fwiw, Night Watchman just plain sucked, period. The show was a train wreck. Not due to to an idol or two.
Jung Il-woo.
I've seen him in 6 dramas. High Kick!, 49 Days, Flower Boy Ramen Shop, Moon Embracing The Sun, Golden Rainbow, Night Watchmen.
His best dramas were definitely in the past. It seems as time goes by the dramas get worse. Is it his acting or just poor choices ?
The last two dramas listed were horrible. The middle two were just that, middling. I really enjoyed him in High Kick, that was almost 10 years ago though.
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papage7
September 11, 2015 at 1:31 AM
You're right, John. He's either bored or has given up on the chance of a big career after Moon Embracing The Sun. He does everything he comes along nowadays. Bad choices= bad agency?
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chanel
September 11, 2015 at 8:05 AM
I'm really not surprised that so many people say Go sung-hee is the #1 Worst Actress. Her atrocious horrible acting is why she deserves that title.
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23 Phuong
September 10, 2015 at 5:59 PM
If you're going to choose an idol can't you choose good idols? There aren't many male idols good at acting that I can name right off the top of my head (other than Yook Sung-jae), but there's got to be some out there.
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24 shf
September 10, 2015 at 11:14 PM
Omg SYJ and GSH have got two of the biggest nose jobs in dramaland! Thus is mean to say, but....jeez...that's all I see when I watch their dramas!
I cringed a little wishing for more oompph or emotion from GSH in my beautiful bride, but nothing came!
Park Yejin is killing it in Last! She's a wonderful actress and should bee credited as "lead" on asianwiki.
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25 Misstwilightfan1416
September 10, 2015 at 11:54 PM
http://www.soompi.com/2015/08/07/vixxs-hongbin-cast-as-lead-in-rom-com-drama/
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26 Franbergh II
September 11, 2015 at 2:17 AM
aaahhh.. i love her. if s.korean also remake japanese drama honey clover she's just perfect playing hagu. a genius artist who has innocent and childlike appearance. aaaahhh.. i always want to see that drama again!!!
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john
September 11, 2015 at 4:04 AM
franbergh ~
I'm surprised that Honey & Clover hasn't been adapted as a K drama. Haven't seen the J version. I did read most of the manga.
I think that Ha Yeon-Soo would be ideal as Hagu.
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esjpx
September 11, 2015 at 6:45 AM
You're right, she does give off that Hagu vibe especially with the wavy hair. I'd love a Korean remake of Honey and Clover, the jdrama is one of my favorites.
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27 Krystal Anne
September 13, 2015 at 3:02 AM
Wow I am shock at the amount of hate and bashing SYJ is receiving here. I saw her acting once and I thought it was okay. It wasn't good but it wasn't that bad either. I have seen actresses and actors way worse than her. Plus she's a rookie so she couldn't have been that great right of the bat. The comments she receive here is disgusting. If you don't like her acting then that is fine but to bash her looks, call her disgusting plastic surgeries (are you even sure?!), her having rich old sponsor (do you have proof?!), accuses her of being user just to protect your Oppa and just downgrade her all together is so wrong.
So what if she get cast here. It's not like this drama stars some top actors etc. Lots of worse idols/actresses got cast for leads or 2nd leads in more well produced dramas acting along side top actors and yet they don't get 1/10 of hate this girl is receiving. Instead all comments was like 'She was bad in her last drama but maybe she improve now. Let's all give her a chance!' even if this people probably have the worse acting in the world. Seriously the double standard is very very obvious.
Especially if it was actors they don't even receive much hate and get lots of shielding. I think NJH is worse in acting than her and yet he got defended here in dramabeans. Or that we should give him a chance etc. and yet no one is giving this girl a chance. I guess this is the reality of the world we live in.
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Caitlyn
September 13, 2015 at 5:15 AM
Some people are giving her plain hate but on the other hand, some people here are giving her objective criticism. After watching Seo Yeji in 3 dramas, I admit her acting really is BAD and has many flaws. Majority rules because most people said she's a bad crappy actress. Saying she's a rookie is a lame excuse. She has been around for a couple of years and she got plenty of experience from FOUR full length dramas. She's should Not be considered rookie anymore. I also notice Everybody said Go sung-hee is the #1 Worst Actress. A LOT of people in other websites say the same thing because her acting really is horrible.
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ahna
September 13, 2015 at 5:28 AM
@Krys11
My comment is response to you because you are mad people "bashing her looks"....So what if people think she's not attractive and not pretty? People entitled to their opinion. No need to get pissed off for no reason. Btw, I agree with other folks. Seo Yeji cannot act. She's a lousy bad actress.
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28 ahna
September 13, 2015 at 5:23 AM
Beauty is subjective so you should Not scold people if they said she's Not pretty. Seo Yeji is getting plenty of hate but it's even worse for Go Sung-Hee. She is getting way too much hate and more than enough severe harsh criticism. I don't blame people because she is really horrendous. Anybody can act better than her. She's the Worst of them all.
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