The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 8
by HeadsNo2
If timing is everything, then the two men vying for our heroine’s affections seem to be in desperate need of an intelligent alarm clock to tell them when it is or isn’t a good time to say their piece. And if the person coming clean isn’t going to be among any of our leads, then this tangled web of crossed wires, mixed signals, and incredibly belated quasi-explanations is just going to get worse for everyone involved—especially if Hana remains unaware that she’s got a second (and arguably more worthy) suitor right under her nose.
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EPISODE 8 RECAP
We rewind a bit to the company bar scene, where Seo-hoo doesn’t seem to be trying too hard to mask the fact that he’s doing this performance for Tandy because of Hana.
He has a reason to perform well this time, he says, making direct eye contact with her as he does so. He sings Hana’s praises to her boss and coworkers, knowing exactly what to say to get Director Byun to order Hana to concentrate only on Seo-hoo’s project from here on out.
Afterward, as Won piggybacks a drunk Hana home, he remembers doing the same for her once in their younger days. Only then could he work up the courage to say, “Hana, I like you.” But she’d been too drunk to listen.
In the present, he tucks her into her own bed and brushes her hair away from her face, as he always seems to do whenever she’s asleep. He remembers when he told her liked her, as well as how she’d told Seo-hoo she hated him right before he picked her up.
“Don’t make me worry too much, Oh Hana,” Won says fondly, as he smiles down at her passed out form.
Meanwhile, Seo-hoo makes it clear to his worried manager that he’s not going anywhere until he does this charity performance, no matter how high the demand is elsewhere. “No matter what happens, I’m not going to give up this time,” he says. Methinks he’s not talking about the concert.
Hana wakes up to find her family standing around her bed, all of them ready to tsk at her for coming home so plastered last night. “There’s no one who can take responsibility for you except for Won Hyung,” Dae-bok sighs. Dad agrees with him.
Won offers to drive Hana to work the next morning, convinced that she’s still a little bit under the influence. She doesn’t seem to remember much of him carrying her home the night before, but finds out that her assistant had been the one to tell Won where he could find her.
Despite what Min-ji did to her, Hana still gives her advice on how to proceed with the Chinese market project that was taken away from her. She makes it clear, however, that she’s not doing it for Min-ji, but because she wants to see the project she started turn out well.
Won gets a surprise when Mi-hyang congratulates him for being selected for overseas training—she’s even jealous of him. But Won can’t help but fixate on the fact that it’s two years abroad, and even though it’d certainly mean a promotion, he needs time to think.
When passing by a truly excessive number of posters for Seo-hoo’s upcoming concert, Hana grips her chest and steels herself for her meeting with the man himself.
No sooner does she walk into the room that Seo-hoo gives her a litany of orders: She’s to be with him a set amount of hours each day until the performance, she has to make any adjustments in his schedule accordingly, and must be available for him to contact her 24/7.
Some of the wind gets knocked out of his sails when Hana simply agrees to everything, since he was hoping for her to put up more of a fight against what he knows is a ridiculous schedule.
Hana just sighs that she doesn’t have the time or patience to humor him before adding, “It’s painful enough just being with you.” “This isn’t fun,” Seo-hoo says disappointingly. Of course it isn’t fun when you’re being a turd.
She spends the day doing chores for him as promised, and ends it by watching him practice playing until he’s dripping with sweat. Only when his manager comes to sit by her does she reveal that she’s been watching him practice for five hours straight.
Manager Yoon wonders why she’d watch for so long, and she replies that it’s because she’s looking forward to an amazing performance. It becomes clear that Seo-hoo is where he is because he’s a perfectionist, so when he hits the wrong key and starts all over again, Hana continues to watch as if transfixed.
She receives a call from Won later asking her out to dinner, and she says yes despite being tired and very, very foot-sore. She agrees to meet him after she leaves work, but suddenly finds her legs picked up and placed in Seo-hoo’s lap so he can massage them. “Who said you can rest?” he asks harshly.
Hana hangs up on Won and struggles to free her legs from Seo-hoo’s grasp, but he asks her to just stay still for this one moment. When he realizes she’s really not into it, he apologizes—he was just playing around.
She tells him to stop playing around, because she doesn’t like it. He smiles as she walks away, while she mutters that he’s so arrogant for being one year younger than her.
After The Three Stooges at work comment on how So-eun went from crying to smiling and laughing eerily quickly, So-eun finds Won thinking to himself about the overseas training offer. He just nods at her in acknowledgment, and she says to herself once he’s gone, “He won’t even give me a chance.”
Dae-bok refuses Assistant Hong’s offer to date as well as her tickets to see Seo-hoo’s recital, the latter being for personal reasons. Meanwhile Seo-hoo stops Hana from leaving by grabbing her by the wrist, before expecting her to be okay with him accompanying her to work.
She isn’t, even though Seo-hoo convinces her that she has to stick by his side because he’s her work now. He smiles when she storms off, and I gotta admit, he’s really starting to worry me.
So-eun questions Mi-hyang about Won’s overseas offer, and at first, Mi-hyang thinks that So-eun’s enthusiasm for Won to take it means that she’s really gotten over him.
It’s just the opposite—she just wants him to be far from Hana. At least Mi-hyang seems to be realizing that So-eun’s not as nice as she’d like people to believe. Or she could just be thinking that So-eun’s got a point, it’s hard to tell.
Seo-hoo uses every excuse possible to keep Hana by his side, and this time, he has her helping him try on shoes. Of course none of them are the right pair because that’d mean she’d have to stop kneeling and putting them on for him, which is what Won sees when he approaches the storefront.
Won calls her to tell her to come out after she’s done working, and though she doesn’t see him, Seo-hoo does. His face immediately falls.
Both she and Won are in a sour mood when they finally go out to eat, and end up turning every little thing into a fight. While Won’s away, Mi-hyang finds the ring-shaped box in his room… only it’s not a ring, but a necklace.
Won keeps up his nagging until Hana can’t take it anymore. She turns on him to ask what on earth is his problem, and doesn’t take his weak defenses into account.
“You’re always like this,” Hana says angrily. “Whatever the problem is, whatever you’re not happy about, whatever you really want to say… why can’t you just say it directly? How am I supposed to know what you’re thinking? Even though I’ve known you for seventeen years, I really don’t know how you truly feel.”
As she walks away in her painful heels, Won says to himself, “I don’t know either.”
Mi-hyang confronts Won about the necklace she found when he gets home, wondering if Hana’s the reason why he doesn’t want to take the overseas training position. She thinks a little time apart from Hana would do them both some good, and besides, he needs to think of his priorities first.
Won calls Hana when he gets up into his room, and though she asks what’s up with him for him to be acting the way he is, she says okay to his offer to take her shopping tomorrow. Won looks at the necklace box with a smile—is he planning on giving it to her?
The first thing he asks when they meet up is whether they’re going to forget about yesterday’s tiff. “Did something happen yesterday?” Hana asks innocently. Won grins and shoots her approving finger guns. He likes her style.
They’re shopping for her parents’ thirty-four year anniversary, and while Hana thinks that being together that long means that things are probably stale but comfortable between them, Won thinks differently. How could she think that her parents have grown tired of each other? “They’re the happiest when they’re together,” he counters defensively.
It’s a PPL-fest when Hana and Won give gifts to her parents, including a trip to Jeju Island that Won supplied for Dae-bok to present. They all know it was Won’s doing anyway, but it’s the thought that counts?
Won elbows Hana into admitting that he’s an awesome friend after, since he’ll drive her parents to the airport for their trip. “I think I like your mom and dad too much,” he admits. “I feel this every meal, but I’m so happy that I can eat and laugh together with the whole family.”
Hana knows what he means, since her parents find the dinner table lacking whenever Won’s not there. That’s when Won brings up that he got an opportunity to train overseas, which Hana is overjoyed about—it’d be a great thing for him. He has her full blessing to go.
But when he asks her how she’ll live without him for two years, she admits she’ll probably be bored, and will miss having someone to call in the middle of the night. She’ll miss him for sure, since the only other time they’ve been apart for more than a year was when he was in the army. And even then, she visited every chance she got.
“Don’t worry about me and just go,” she says, and means it. If it’s going to be a good thing for him, she’ll be okay being bored for a little while. Won shakes his head knowingly, and when she asks why he’s nodding as if he knows something, his sly reply is that he knows everything.
While Won drops Hana’s parents off at the airport and takes some photos with them (shoes and cameras and plane tickets, oh my!), Hana gets an earful from Na-young about working with Seo-hoo.
Though her other friend argues that he may have had a reason for being MIA for three years, Na-young echoes my own sentiments by being all, “Reason? What reason? Did he break his legs in an accident or something?” But Hana defends that he’s her job for now, and she just has to deal with it.
Manager Yoon calls Hana to come to the theater, since there’s a problem with Seo-hoo’s upcoming recital. She finds Seo-hoo with his stern-faced teacher, who chastises him for trying to branch off while being heedless of his sponsors, since it’ll reflect poorly on his own name.
Even though he threatens Seo-hoo’s career, Seo-hoo sticks by his decision to play when and where he wants—hasn’t he earned it after doing every performance his company and sponsors demanded of him so far?
Apparently not. By the time Hana’s brought into the conversation (except not really), Seo-hoo’s teacher says this is just like what happened three years ago. Seo-hoo all but begs for him to stop talking, but his teacher refuses as he scolds Seo-hoo for wanting to go to a measly engagement ceremony instead of his scheduled performance.
Hana confronts Seo-hoo about what his teacher said about him going to the engagement ceremony once they’re alone. “It’s as you heard. I went,” he answers. “You looked pretty. It would have been better if I saw you before you cried.” In utter disbelief, Hana asks again if that means he actually showed up to the ceremony. Seo-hoo: “Yes. Even though I was late.”
“You were late?” Hana all but stutters. “How can you say that now? This is unbelievable. You should’ve said why you were late that day. You should have explained it clearly! ‘I’m sorry, I was wrong.’ You should have begged and begged! Whether it was the next day or the week after, you should have told me that you didn’t leave me that day, that I wasn’t abandoned!”
“I’m sorry, Hana,” Seo-hoo finally says. Not enough. Hana asks if he came back to apologize, but he didn’t—he came back to gain the right to get back together with her, to never lose her again. Hana just looks at him with tears in her eyes. “Looking back, it would have been better if you never even came that day.”
Won spots her on her way home and follows her in silence, but when she turns back to see him, she smiles as though everything’s fine. Just seeing his face is enough to turn her terrible day around, she says.
She tells him what she just found out, about Seo-hoo coming to the engagement ceremony late because there was a problem with his performance. “There was a problem with his performance, so he didn’t show up at the engagement party and didn’t say a word for three years. Does that even make sense?” he asks her.
She knows it doesn’t, but she’s so shaken up by the fact that he showed up, however late. It makes her feel like the last three years she spent hating him have been wasted somehow. Won remains the voice of reason and asks why Seo-hoo didn’t explain himself even though he came late, which Hana doesn’t have an answer for.
Now it’s as though everything she’s built is falling down around her, she sighs. Won asks if he shouldn’t go to his overseas training then, but Hana won’t let him stay for her. It’s enough to make her wonder though, if he’d stopped her from going to Paris for training, would she not have met Seo-hoo then?
“If you were there next to me, would I have known sooner how much of a bad guy he is?” If he’d scolded her when she first met Seo-hoo, would things have been different?
“If I told you not to go, would you have stayed?” Won asks in all seriousness. A tense moment passes between them, which Hana breaks when she jokingly says that he never would’ve done that anyway. Won’s expression seems to suggest otherwise, but as always, he doesn’t voice his true feelings.
He does tell Mi-hyang that he won’t be doing the overseas training after all, even though he knows it’s a good opportunity and that he’s being foolish for not going. Mi-hyang couldn’t disagree with him any more, but Won asks her to respect his decision.
News breaks that Seo-hoo’s recital has been cancelled, which has Director Byun worried that their collaboration with him will suffer if his image goes down the drain. But Manager Yoon corrects him on that, claiming that Seo-hoo had nothing to do with the cancellation—it was his agency’s decision.
Hana finds Seo-hoo alone in the concert hall and asks if the cancellation was his doing. “Do you think I’m that powerful?” he quips back ruefully. It was the decision of people bigger than him who think they have the power to ruin him.
But since she came to see him, he wonders, does it mean she was worried about him? Hana says she was only concerned on behalf of the company, which has him disappointed. Regardless, their collaboration will continue.
“I’m not going to make things hard on you because of my problems. Never again,” he adds with conviction. “More than that, I don’t ever want to lose you again. That’s the reason I came back.”
While Won tries to prepare the perfect way to give Hana the necklace at their rooftop spot, Seo-hoo leaves her with some of his sheet music and tells her to come back when she remembers. Remembers what, exactly? Only she’ll be able to find that out.
Sigh. If we’re watching the photo slideshow and present Won’s prepared for Hana, that means Hana never will, doesn’t it.
And so it happens that she sees the note she left Seo-hoo in his sheet music, which had been a drawing of a rabbit she claimed looked like him. He’d also given her a rabbit charm. Cue sunny memories of their happiest days as Hana remembers everything, and Seo-hoo did tell her to return to him if she did…
…So while Won waits for her on the rooftop, Hana runs back into the concert hall.
COMMENTS
Auuuuuuugh. It’s fine if they’re going to force Seo-hoo down our throats as a romantic contender, but what’s a girl gotta do to get some straightforward answers up in here? Sure, it’s a huge revelation that Seo-hoo showed up to the engagement ceremony at all, but why is Hana less concerned about the fact that he waited three years to tell her than she is about the fact that he showed up and never told her?
Not only did he let Hana think she’d been cruelly abandoned on that day of all days, he had three freaking years to explain himself. That’s 1,095 days he could’ve used just one of to call her up and tell her that his being late was out of his hands. That’s 26,297 hours he wasted for apparently no good reason before randomly coming back to tell her he never wants to lose her again, when the reason he lost her at all was because he wasn’t willing to walk twenty yards to tell her he’d been held up by forces beyond his control.
I just don’t understand. It doesn’t help that Seo-hoo is all over the place as a character, running from hot to cold to just plain weird in any given scene without much warning or reason. I get that he’s coming up with all these contrivances to keep Hana by his side, but what outdated operating system is he running on if he thinks that being insensitive and needlessly forceful will win her over when he could just try, I dunno, being nice instead? The kind of tricks he’s pulling would work better if he was a maladjusted chaebol in another drama where he hadn’t been engaged to the heroine and left her without explanation, but this is not that drama, and his actions should ideally follow accordingly. Or—and I’m just spitballing here—he could try using words.
To his credit, I guess he did come clean on a few things, though I doubt that he would’ve ever brought up the engagement ceremony if Hana hadn’t conveniently crashed that conversation with his teacher. Hana tore into Won about not being able to read his mind, yet she’s not holding Seo-hoo up to the same standards. And why did no one seem to question why Seo-hoo could come to Korea and set up a collaborative concert before someone in his Big Bad Agency noticed and forced him to cancel for… what, again? Unless he’s working for SM and has spent the last three years locked in their basement, is he supposed to be a (literally) tortured artist, forced to perform only when his masters say so?
It’ll really suck for Won if, after all this time, he ends up losing his chance to tell Hana his true feelings because Seo-hoo kept a post-it note. Except he’s had seventeen years, and only recently decided that he did have real feelings for her. It does make me wonder when and how Won changed from “I’ll never love you” to “Never mind I love you,” but I guess that’d mean people in this show would need to start talking turkey. Gobble gobble, The Time I’ve Lied To You. Gobble gobble.
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1 Pinkhearts
July 21, 2015 at 8:11 PM
This drama is sooo frustratingly slow. There is no plot movement whatsoever. I feel like the plot is spinning in circles. Nothing has been happening. I don't even know how anyone can continue recalling this.
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Midori
July 21, 2015 at 8:32 PM
I second this. I don't like any of the lead characters. I wish the men would be honest with Hana. I wish Hana would grow a spine when it comes to these men and demand the respect she deserves instead of the passive aggressive nonsense from these men.
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Gidget
July 21, 2015 at 10:54 PM
"I don’t even know how anyone can continue [recapping] this."
ooooh...don't say that! We need to count our blessings.
When Heads gets on a roll she's hilarious! And it takes some nonsensical plotting to make that happen.
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2 Pinkhearts
July 21, 2015 at 8:11 PM
Recapping*
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3 lemonysnicket
July 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM
Hee hee, am I first?
No matter what Nay sayers say, I like this drama. I commented on the previous recap post to say that I got where the writing was headed - I think hana and won need some time apart to sort out their feelings for each other and they're getting it. I can also see why she would go back to yks, horrible and ugly as he is (sorry hyung fans)
Looking forward to this week!
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Anonymous
July 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM
Me too.I love the drama. Looking forward to the weekend. Fighting
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4 Jennifer Calabrese
July 21, 2015 at 8:20 PM
"That’s 1,095 days he could’ve used just one of to call her up and tell her that his being late was out of his hands. That’s 26,297 hours he wasted"
LOL it might have slipped your mind that "The time we were not in love" is about Won not SeoHoo! Won has wasted 20 +/-years and not voiced his true feelings while keeping HaNa in the dark and toying with her emotions. I couldn't be more annoyed by this drama or myself for continuing the torture of watching it...ugh.
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KDaddict?JCW
July 21, 2015 at 10:04 PM
“You’re always like this,” Hana says angrily. “Whatever the problem is, whatever you’re not happy about, whatever you really want to say… why can’t you just say it directly? How am I supposed to know what you’re thinking? Even though I’ve known you for seventeen years, I really don’t know how you truly feel.”
As she walks away in her painful heels, Won says to himself, “I don’t know either.”
Either he is extremely unintelligent or is totally cut off from his feelings. Whatever it is, I can't root for a girl to be with such a guy, no matter how sweet he is. He has in essence caused her a lot of anguish by letting date repeatedly and fail miserably each time.
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Lizzie
July 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM
I actually really don't want Won and Hana together at this point because I feel like they would be better off without eachother..like seriously. I also think they should all go to therapy because...well I just really think they all could benefit from learning more about themselves..although Won might be in therapy forever if his confused relationship with Hana is any indication.. (on a serious note though therapy/counseling is actually really great if you think you might benefit from it..though not particularly easy..:)
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evw09
July 22, 2015 at 10:18 PM
+1
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les
July 22, 2015 at 12:13 AM
the only reason you have to wait 1,095 days your person to tell you that he isn't into you, is because he's GAY…been there, done that!
LOL
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5 Kdramaddict
July 21, 2015 at 8:23 PM
Ugghh that's all I have to say.....
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dramamad
July 21, 2015 at 8:32 PM
seconded..
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bbstl 🧹
July 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM
and I hope you won't mind if I just add ... blecccchhhhh.
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sea
July 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM
I second the blechhhh. The scene where Seo Hoo walks up and just starts massaging her legs...blechhhh.
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6 dramamad
July 21, 2015 at 8:31 PM
I gave this up after episode 4. I do still keep up with the recaps because i really want to love this show. But its so boring.
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7 Mainlykdrama
July 21, 2015 at 8:34 PM
Hahaha... your comments gave me a good laugh. It was nice to read out some of my own frustrations with the show. The Time I've Lied To You indeed. Let's also add The Time I've Been Away For Three Years And Did Not Know About The Use Of Modern Phones And The Internet or The Time I've Loved You For 17 Years But Consistently Rebuff Any Questions That Would Reveal My True Feelings For You.
The only person I agreed with during this episode was Na Young...what does that say about this show? I'm just wondering how this show went from crack status to totally forgot what happened during the episode.
Also Yoon Kyun Sang and Ha Ji Won have no chemistry. Like....none. I don't know if it's Lee Jin Wook that's just blowing him away like a frail leaf off my screen but the lack of chemistry is painfully absent.
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tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM
The Time I've Played Piano With Your Voice Reminding Me That I Suddenly Love You Three Years After I Skipped Our Engagement Party for Work.
The Time I've Let You Date and Almost Marry Cheating Jerks In Order to Mask My Undying Love For You.
This could go on forever.
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Mainlykdrama
July 21, 2015 at 9:23 PM
The Time I've Spent Pretending I Don't Love You So When I Do Decide To Tell You I Love You It Won't Be Confusing...At All.
The Time I Decided That Bothering You At Work Was A Good Way To Appease Your Anger For Disappearing The Last Three Years.
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tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 9:59 PM
The Time I Was Called a Bunny by You so I Bought a Giant Stuffed Energizer Bunny to Win Back Your Heart (Because I Earned the Right to).
The Time I've Loved Eating Fried Chicken Feet With You on Our Special Rooftop Where No One Else is Allowed or Death.
Okay, I'll stop now.
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Lizzie
July 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM
The Time I Almost Married Someone Already in Love With Their BFF But Dont Care any More And Will Now Steam Roll Her into Loving Me Again...Cuz that Will Obviously Work This Time..
The Time I Will Forever Not Say My Feelings Because I Never Seem To Come to A conclusion About Them Even Though it Sometimes looks like it..Dont be deceived, I know Nothing.
Gidget
July 21, 2015 at 11:05 PM
Ok I'll pile on... We can't give Hana a free pass.
The Time I Dated and Almost Married a Guy Against the Strong Advice of All My Very Closest Friends.
The Time I Rebuffed and Dodged my Best Friend's Obvious Relationship Advances Then Blamed Him for Being Obscure About His Feelings.
And The Time I Continued To Make Relationship Decisions Until I was 34, Solely Based on Things That Happened in High School.
Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM
That Time I Kept Telling You That I Don't Love You Then Got My Feelings Hurt When You Told Me That I Don't Love You.
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:13 PM
That Time I Said I Was Gonna Take a Break From Men Then Ran Back To My Ex Because He Gave Me a Used Post-It Note.
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:29 PM
The Time I Stalked You and Called It Winning You Back.
The Time I Also Stalked You and Called It Being BFFs.
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tapiocapearl
July 22, 2015 at 4:35 AM
I really like these ones!
Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:42 PM
The Time I Only Told You the Truth When You Were Drunk, Sleeping or (Preferably) Both.
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lemonysnicket
July 21, 2015 at 11:47 PM
Hilarious!
⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 21, 2015 at 11:22 PM
LOL. I laughed hard at comments from you guys. :P
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8 striving8
July 21, 2015 at 8:35 PM
This drama needs a conflict. I mean why cant these people get there head straight?
Conflict for the sake of conflict is no fun.
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9 kolache
July 21, 2015 at 8:37 PM
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10 tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 8:46 PM
I'm gonna try to explain Seo-hoo's absence, not because I like him but because I'll tire myself out not understanding why Hana is going back to him!
When he saw Won comforting Hana after the party, it dawned on him that he would never be *that* guy for her. He said as much, right? So he left, figuring out that even if he married Hana, he still woudn't be number one, which is why he blamed Won for always getting in the way. I still think a phone call or text before his concert should've sufficed. We live in a day and age where you can't get away with not contacting anyone (for the most part), so that detail will bother me for the rest of the show.
Aish, Won's a mystery, huh? Aside from the writer-switch, I understand the frustration with his character. He was willing to watch Hana marry Seo-hoo three years ago, so what changed from then? I want to say that his sudden declaration has to do with Seo-hoo's reappearance, but that makes me sad because it all seems like a competition then (which I know it's not, but sure looks that way).
I agreed with Mi-hyang saying that separation would do Won and Hana some good. Be by yourselves for a while and see how much you need each other then.
I don't know. I'm so torn! I really liked the drama at the beginning (Ep. 4--so cute). But things have been so slow and repetitive that I'm actually okay with Hana going back to Seo-hoo (for now) if only to change the plot up a bit.
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:13 AM
I feel like such a contrarian about this episode. My low point was Episode 7. But I thought Episode 8 improved. The side-characters started giving voice to (hanging lanterns on) the things we're frustrated by. I saw this as the writer acknowledging the audience's frustration. My main complaint with this episode was that the soundtrack has become loud and almost dictatorial, saying: 'you must emote... and this is how.' It communicates a lack of trust in the writing.
I agree with your take on Seo-hoo's motive in walking away. At this point I chalk up his 3 year silence to a side we haven't fully seen. He's a perfectionist who's incapable of handling any messiness in life. And he didn't like the messiness that Won caused in the relationship, because Hana's life didn't revolve entirely around him. So he basically opted out of the relationship when it started causing conflicts with work. I have no doubt he cares for her to the best of his ability. And that he has regrets about walking out. But he won't be able to make a relationship work with a woman who's independent and has a life of her own.
Won's issue seems understandable. He completely internalized his pain while his parents were breaking up. This means he's guarded about things that are painful or emotionally 'unsafe'. (Hana's rebuffs would bring up barriers that are a mile high.) And the divorce fostered abandonment issues that lead to codependency. (Hence his 'white night' aspirations, giving up his career dreams to be close to Hana, and needing to keep in 24/7 contact.) He has big emotional barriers coupled with no emotional boundaries. I get why he's confused about what he's feeling.
As far as Hana goes, she does have a sweet relationship with her parents, but I've found myself thinking that they aren't as invested as they should be in helping her figure out why she's 34 and still living at home. Her dad should be the one to put up his radar and warn her about bad guys. But he's lazily abdicated that responsibility to Won. And her mom should have helped her dig a little deeper into the reasons why she can't move forward with Won. Like saying: 'Honey, you do realize that he said those things in high school and his feelings may be different now?' Or, 'He seems really devoted to you. Could there be a misunderstanding that's holding him back? Is there a reason why he might think you only want to be friends?'
To move forward Won needs to become his own man. Seo-hoo needs to learn to compromise. And Hana needs to learn that a relationship is more than fun and games; and in order to build a good relationship with either of these two she needs to become a safe haven for them and not expect that everything will revolve around her wishes.
But all that is just speculation. Overall, I think the writer would do well to serve up the characters motivations and reasons for their relationship issues as reeeeeally low hanging...
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:19 AM
fruit.
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tapiocapearl
July 22, 2015 at 4:43 AM
I like what you said about Won here. We're all giving him flak about his wishy-washiness (myself included), but the truth is that we're hardly given any insight into his feelings. Eight episodes in, and I feel like we should at least know the reasons why he's so guarded so that we can sympathize with him. Instead, they're trying to build up sympathy for Seo-hoo. I want the writers to build up the male character we care about! They've made Seo-hoo so terrible already, so just stop with him and focus on Won. Won losing out on Hana isn't gonna make me sympathize with him!
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:53 PM
So true. The things I said are plausible real life explanations of the things the drama has shown us. But if those are the issues it'll be hard to get it across without making it mind numbingly boring.
In the original, they communicated what Won's issues were by letting us see the characters that caused his issues. Their behavior made everything obvious. Hana's behavior told it's own story as she was extremely self-absorbed and we could see how she caused her own issues. And Seo-Hoo' was a player who who also caused his own issues. He manipulated Hana by preying on her physical attraction to him.
I just don't see how they can tell Won's story in an interesting way without using a broader supporting cast. Something probably isn't going as planned. I wonder if the leads got such big contracts with the expectation of giant ratings, but the show's now having a tough time making ends meet. It does seem that most of their storyboarding is now dedicated to PPL planning; while character and plot development are lesser concerns.
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11 Aigoooo
July 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM
This reminds me of Witch's Romance. Same situation. Apparently, people who go abroad never have access to any form of communication. lol
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12 liz
July 21, 2015 at 8:55 PM
guys the plot is about the lead couple and their friendship. What you wanted aside this? they can't get together or else there would be no drama...
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tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 8:59 PM
True, but the execution of the details matter as well. I think that's what we're all bummed about.
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alua
July 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM
<What you wanted aside this? they can’t get together or else there would be no drama…
They could actually have a valid reason/conflict of why they can't get together.
But the only reason why they are apart is so that we have a 16 episode drama, which makes for a crap story. (Cue Won in a meta-dialogue: "I could never tell you what I was thinking directly Hana because actually we are characters in a fictional drama and I needed 17 years plus 16 episodes declare my love for you.")
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Mainlykdrama
July 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM
Haha Won could just tell Hana he loves her and make it a two hour long drama special instead of a 16 ep. miniseries. Do you think that shortening the episodes down would help? Did you watch ITWY and what did you think about the plot movement in that one?
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alua
July 22, 2015 at 12:41 AM
Nah, shortening the drama would not help. You just need real conflicts and things that make sense (at least a bit).
I did watch ITWY and though I'm no great fan of it either, the leads being apart at least added up, both due to the characters' personalities and details in some of the things that happen.
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Webby
July 22, 2015 at 5:41 PM
They should learn from the "Answer Me" series...
Other than them drinking, walking, looking shocked, looking sad... "Nothing" happened...
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13 tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM
I will also say that I just marathoned Mask. Now there's a drama hero who's got waaaayyy more issues than anybody in this drama, yet he tells the heroine he loves her in practically every episode. Swoon.
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14 aoisakura
July 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM
I'm a little bit frustrated with this drama. Well ok, maybe a lot. But due to numerous amount of piggybacking of the OTP's .... i can't drop it down .. Arigato HeadsNo2 for the recap
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15 PeepsLeAwesomePotato
July 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM
but I guess that’d mean people in this show would need to start talking turkey. Gobble gobble, The Time I’ve Lied To You. Gobble gobble.
Pffft... PWAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!
I was smiling, amused, while reading the rest of your frustrated comments but I burst out laughing when I got to the end. I'm imagining a dramatic Heads gobbling.... pfft!
I'm not as frustrated with this drama since I'm not that invested in it but I'm reading your recaps because it shines through - how much experience you have with exasperating dramas. I think they all come to you cos of your ability to showcase your snark. Kekeke...
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16 Aaannie
July 21, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Thank you for pointing out why CSH did what he did. Took the words right out of my mouth And just to add to your explanation, I mean why bother explaining why you were late if you decided at that point to give up on the relationship anyway? Not like it'll be any better if he said, "I was late and it was out of my control but I'm still giving up on you." It's not why he was late that's important but why he gave up and that's the one thing I wish he told her before leaving but I can kind of understand why he didn't.
As for the 3 year hiatus: he tried to date other women and move on but found himself not being able to stop thinking about her so he finally came back and decided not to give up again.
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Aaannie
July 21, 2015 at 9:33 PM
Oops! Meant to reply to tapioca pearl above
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:14 PM
Because you don't break up with someone without telling them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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17 crazyahjummafan
July 21, 2015 at 9:35 PM
To (I refuse to use the word 'dear') Seo Hoo,
What a lousy excuse! Your agency prevented you from attending your engagement party because of some performance? Have you not heard of something called a schedule? How can you plan an engagement party without first making sure that you are free to attend???
In any case, if your agency is so bad and insensitive that they won't let you attend your own engagement party, change it! Aren't you talented enough? Even if they had held you hostage and chained you up, couldn't you have at least send your ever-present and dedicated manager to tell Hana that you were held up?
The excuse that you didn't tell Hana when you arrived at her home, because Won was in the way is just crap! You are the one she chose to be engaged too not Won! Of course, he'll be comforting her...she's his best friend, you stood her up, embarrassed her and broke her heart...It seems as if you don't really love her enough to just abandon your pride and beg for her forgiveness after apologising profusely.
AND then to just go away for THREE years and not even say anything is really unforgivable. Even if you didn't want to say anything on that day, how could you make a girl think that you don't care at all for three years, and then just turn up and expect her to go back to you, without apologising, showing remorse or giving any explanation? Instead you behave like a jerk, manipulating spoilt brat.
From a crazy ahjumma fan (but not yours!)
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PiscesDragon
July 22, 2015 at 3:59 AM
I wish the writers thought of a more creative excuse why he was late for the engagement. Who schedules a concert and an engagement party on the same day? Then you run to your fiancee's house to explain and then just stare at her crying from a distance. So lame...
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18 lemonysnicket
July 21, 2015 at 10:13 PM
In my bid to be first (which I wasn't, sadly) I think my comment was a bit shallow. So here are my hopefully more concrete thoughts this show.
1. I became a huge fan of HJW after Secret Garden, which changed my life (silly I know ..) but didn't have the time or energy to watch her other dramas until this one came along. So I'll admit that she was a big draw for me. That being said, firstly, I find this drama pleasant because it's very real and normal compared to others I've caught bits and pieces of in the past few months (became a SAHM, and the end of this drama will see my return to work anyhow). Of course, not all the scenarios are realistic, but for the most part I feel HJW and LJW are doing a good job with making their characters believable. In particular, and this may sound unbelievable, I don't really care anymore what Won's big secret is. I can believe he and Hana just let things be over the years and grew too comfortable. That's real life for you. Now they're getting older, they're simply grappling with the question of whether they truly love each other in a romantic way. I mean no time like the present, right??
2. I was diayer when I heard of the writer change, but I didn't feel that anything too drastic happened in these two episodes and in fact I feel the plot is moving along fine. Which brings me to the YKS arc. He is an annoying douche bag and while the hair over forehead thing worked for HB in SG, it is doing nothing for YKS here. My bias aside, I can see why Hana would want to be with him just once more - she felt her hate became futile when she found out he had come for the engagement party - and if they had a crazy passionate love before, it's tempting to allow yourself to be lost in it again. Of course he will turn out to be a jerk but if we're talking about real people and feelings.. I understand the attraction. Like it's toxic but you can't stay away because it makes you feel like more of a person. A heightened reality of sorts.
3. Of course, being married and now having a child, I can safely say that Hana will realise in time that Won is The One, because crazy passionate love isn't sustainable and will actually drive you crazy.
4. HJW and LJW are carrying the show. And I'm not saying that just because I'm a HJW fan. I can see Jana on the way to falling for Won for real. I just think she hasn't allowed herself to all these years.
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alua
July 21, 2015 at 10:44 PM
<and if they had a crazy passionate love before, it’s tempting to allow yourself to be lost in it again.
If he had reappeared a month after he abandoned her, I would find that credible because it can take time to get out of the grips of a dysfunctional relationship. But three years have passed. Hana should have matured (she's in her 30s!) and gotten over Seo-hoo. (And Seo-hoo too: he should at least realise that between then and now lie three years which you can't just pretend don't exist, rather than waltzing in and operating like time stood still for those years.) As for Hana, she should know already that the time for that relationship has passed. (And there's not even any excuse of that her family is pushing her towards this – absolutely NO ONE is pressuring her to be in the relationship except Seo-hoo.) If Hana hasn't dealt with her feelings towards Seo-hoo and gotten over him in three years, then I have no hope for her to be in any functional relationship with anyone. Though I'll say the same for Won with his not confessing his feelings for 17 years. There might be wrong moments to confess (e.g. when the person you like is in a relationship with someone else) but if he couldn't find a moment in 17 years, he missed the boat.
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:32 AM
"If Hana hasn’t dealt with her feelings towards Seo-hoo and gotten over him in three years, then I have no hope for her to be in any functional relationship with anyone. "
Exactly.
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lemonysnicket
July 21, 2015 at 11:48 PM
*dismayed and *Hana
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crazyahjummafan
July 22, 2015 at 12:21 AM
Can i recommend The King 2 Hearts? It was an awesome drama that HJW acted in, and the comments were intelligent and fun. So read them while watching. If you have the time.
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19 tapiocapearl
July 21, 2015 at 10:18 PM
@ aaannie -- I kinda don't like that I see his point of view. Don't know if we'll see more flashbacks of their relationship, but I get the feeling that Won comforting Hana after the party wasn't the first instance of closeness Seo-hoo had seen. It felt like a final straw.
Still think he is scum!
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20 bbstl 🧹
July 21, 2015 at 10:50 PM
Oh Heads, it's another show where the best thing about it ends up being your recaps, so thank you. I bust out laughing at least three times reading each recap and look forward to them.
Please tell me it's possible that the notes on the music made Hana realize WOW THIS GUY IS A JERK AND MAYBE A BIT PSYCHO and she's actually running OUT of the concert hall? Please? Oy.
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crazyahjummafan
July 22, 2015 at 12:22 AM
Yes, I hope so too!!! Run Hana, run! AWAY!!!
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21 Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:04 PM
1) So, while I'm still enjoying this Drama, we've reached the point where I don't care what happens to any of the principles because I find them all incredibly stupid. None to them have any solid reason to be doing any of the things they are doing, outside of "We're all too dumb to do anything else." From now on, Mom and Dad are my true OTP. All I want is for them to end up with Children/Neighbors who have the minimum requirements of common sense.
2) Hana, I had so much hope for you until the last five minutes of this episode. How is it that you are not understanding that showing up but not making yourself known for 3 YEARS does not count as showing up? He, in actuality, did abandon you that day... just 30 minutes later than you thought he did. If you go back to him, you deserve whatever you get.
3) Won, when you keep a girl on the hook for literally half your lives, the time for adorable slideshow presentations is long passed. At this point, just go find her and tell her how you feel. If you lose Hana because you wasted and hour sitting on a rooftop trying to be cute, you deserve what you get.
4) Also, Won, You're sooooooo very dumb for turning down a big career opportunity because you're afraid that a grown woman might make a decision that you don't like. Now, based on what we've seen tonight, you may have been right, but still, she's 34, she's allowed to make her own bone-headed mistakes. I really don't know how Hana or anyone could possibly date this guy. It's got to be stifling trying to live up to his standards. I don't think I could even survive being his friend for very long before screaming at him to back off and let me live my life.
4) Seo Hoo, literally everything thing you've ever done, probably since the day you were born has been wrong. But, to address your most recent stupidity, you don't declare that you refuse to lose someone who you haven't even bothered to put any effort into winning back. Because bullying her by way of her professional obligation to you is not courtship. It's creepy! As are the I Hear Your Voice Murder Eyes that you flash every time you're faced with the reality that you screwed up your relationship and no one else.
5) Management Company? You're stupid for waiting until the last minute to cancel this concert that you had such a HUGE problem with. But, we all know you're just a tool for lazy writers and, now that your work is done, we'll likely never hear from you again.
6) As much as I HATE "Study Abroad" as a way to invoke character change, I hope Won takes that job, Seo-hoo goes on tour and So-eun goes back to wherever it is she came from because all of these people need to get away from each other and reassess everything about there lives.
7) Mom and Dad, you're lovely!
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:22 PM
*4) I meant to say Pinocchio Murder Eyes.
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AP
July 22, 2015 at 12:31 AM
I have probably watched only one episode to completion but this comment is hilarious and tells me all I need to know about the show.
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Z
July 22, 2015 at 12:46 AM
Consider the hours I've saved you as my gift.
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bbstl 🧹
July 22, 2015 at 9:18 AM
*raises right hand*
I solemnly swear that what Z has said above is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Do save yourself.
*shakes head*
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JoyCB
July 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM
hahaha everything you said is right on target. i watched this coz i've always liked Ha Jiwon's acting and Yoon Kyun Sang is my latest favorite actor (even if he seem scary at times coz of his eyes) coz he's great in my books.
i actually enjoyed the first 4 episodes then it became sooooo slowwwwww. i want to drop watching this already but i still like seeing Ha Jiwon and Yoon Kyun Sang on screen. i think i'll survive with that.
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Z
July 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM
I want to drop this but I love Ha Ji Won's wardrobe. Even if I could afford her clothes (I can't) I'd never be able to pull them off like she does unless I am willing to commit to a year of waist training (I'm not) so this is pretty much all I've got.
I'm really hoping they production team is making it up to her for the disappointing show by letting her keep the clothes.
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22 fangirlingoppas
July 21, 2015 at 11:10 PM
this is soooo boring (about the plot), but also exciting (about the conversations between the lead).
and all of you are right!
seo hoo should had a really more proper reason to not attending the engagement party.
won should have really comes clean earlier. either hana is accepting him or not, he should come clean first. (and fight for her love a little)
and hana, i just dont like how she was running in the end of the episode. #sigh
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fangirlingoppas
July 21, 2015 at 11:13 PM
ah yes, hana and won should do the separation to realize their feeling for one to another...
writer-nim..please make the show really works for us!
i really love the chemistry between HJW and LJW. please please please...
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alua
July 21, 2015 at 11:34 PM
<hana and won should do the separation to realize their feeling for one to another…
They have been separated before. Army (yes, with visits), Paris. They need two more years on top of their 17 years to realise their feelings? It's not time – together or apart – that they need. Actually, maybe what they need is no time, like one of them being hit by a car and dying in the other's arms... that way it'll be 'now or never' and maybe one of them would actually say what they feel (except that'll be too late then!).
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:40 PM
Somewhere in Korea, the writers are like "Crap! They figured it out! Now we've got to change the script again!"
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23 Becca
July 21, 2015 at 11:18 PM
im confused...i also though seo hoo was cheating on her? whatever happened to that flashback won had of seeing seo hoo at the bar flirting it up with those chicks after hana told him seo hoo had cancelled their date because he was "busy"? did i miss something? lol
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Becca
July 21, 2015 at 11:19 PM
also, did seo hoo not know ahead of time that he had a performance at the same time as his engagement party??
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:26 PM
"Babe, my company scheduled me for a concert today. I'm gonna try to get out of it but, just letting you know, I might be late. I'll call when I'm on the way."
-No KDrama Character Ever.
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Z
July 21, 2015 at 11:24 PM
I can't remember, what episode what the cheating incident? Maybe it was with the previous writing team and the new guys decided to let it fall by the wayside.
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Becca
July 21, 2015 at 11:26 PM
I don't remember :( i just remember the flashback scene. but that's true, I forgot about all the changes :/
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:42 AM
Was it cheating for sure? He told Hana he couldn't meet up with her because something came up. Then Won saw him sitting meeting a group of girls at a bar, and give something to one of them. We really don't know if it was an affair or something like a meeting with the leaders of his fan club.
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24 simplyshirinie
July 21, 2015 at 11:23 PM
I loved episodes 1-4 but it started going downhill from there.
What happened.
Still gonna follow it. Hana's clothes are on point <3
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25 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 21, 2015 at 11:34 PM
Kdramaland either:
1) the plot is interesting, but zero chemistry between the leads
or
2) the leads have so much chemistry but the plot... urghh.
i seriously love the leads here. but please writer-nim make some more interesting conflicts, rather than been dragging with the same plot over and over again. please make Won goes to the overseas training.. both them need separation right now, they need to figure out their actual feelings.
as for Hana, please dont make her so idiot here. give some strength to her character.
the only thing that made me bearable with this drama so far is the friendship between the leads..
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Mainlykdrama
July 22, 2015 at 12:05 AM
I don't know which one I'd rather.. Would I like watching two cold stones pretend they love each other but have the plot be exciting or two flaming hot cheetos be crazy magnetic on screen together but everything else is nonsensical and crazy? There is that third but very rare option: a drama that has leads with chemistry and an amazing plot. It's out there...somewhere.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 22, 2015 at 2:06 AM
the third option is the best.. there are out there, but not here unfortunately.
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26 prettysup
July 21, 2015 at 11:41 PM
They should show more of Won at his flying job - maybe get a plane hijack scare that shakes Hana up to make her realise how important Won is to her ??
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Z
July 22, 2015 at 8:27 PM
I've never seen a flight attendant who has as much time at home as Won. I'd totally take that job if it meant I was still available to hang out on rooftops every night.
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27 yayabean
July 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM
Gobble-gobble indeed. I'm going to start keeping the post-it notes I receive from people from now - they might be my saving grace three years from now.
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 1:44 AM
LOL
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28 imzadi
July 22, 2015 at 2:22 AM
I was planning to watch this later, right now I'm totally satisfied with "I remember you" and "Oh my Ghost". But reading the recaps, I'm not sure I will.
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kolache
July 22, 2015 at 6:53 AM
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imzadi
July 22, 2015 at 9:35 AM
Difficult decision. Perhaps I will have a look, after this has ended. But I think for now I'm fine with just the other two. I enjoy every episode, and that's rather rare in drama land.
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29 Jin
July 22, 2015 at 2:56 AM
I have a personal Won in my life but it's only been two years that we've been best friends. I get the gifts and the coffee meet-ups and the study nights and the phone calls abroad and stuff and we were housemates at university. I swear to God I won't take 7000 days and several girlfriends on his part (and boyfriends on my part) before I tell him it's time for us to get married. I'll probably wait a few more years to see if he wants to marry me since we both have goals and dreams.
But this show is like a guide for me on all the things to avoid when you have a friendship as good as the one Won and Hana have.
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30 Izie
July 22, 2015 at 4:10 AM
I love ha ji won. I really love lee jin wook. But this remake really slow, boring, unentertaining with no drama in the drama. The plot remains stagnant, i did doze off while watching. Well, with multiple changes of writers, this was a no surprise at all....
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31 Liza
July 22, 2015 at 7:37 AM
I dropped this show already because of the boring,slow plot but keep coming here to read the snarky recaps. Somehow it does remind me of Doctor Stranger, which I also dropped as I couldn't bear the ridiculousness. Though to be fair this show is way better than DS. So I checked to see who recapped that show, and guess who? It was HeadNo2. Lol. No wonder I love reading this recaps too ;)
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32 sea
July 22, 2015 at 8:59 AM
The only thing I like about this show is the cute relationship between Hana's brother and Hana's assistant. Those two are like two fluffy puppies...so adorable!
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33 bapgongju
July 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM
I'm still on the fence about this show.
I want to know why Won is being such a wimp about declaring his feelings but I don't really find Hana to be "nice"...
She has a habit of ditching him whenever she meets another guy. She always seems to be pouting about something or another and expecting Won to drop everything to make her feel better but then ditches him when she's done. I don't see her doing anything to make his life better. I mean, she doesn't ever invite him over to dinner unless her mother makes her.
I keep watching in hopes that some things will get answered soon but most likely I"ll watch till the end because I hate not finishing things.
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 2:12 PM
Exactly! I don't know why people keep complaining about Won. She's the one who's causing the barriers to go up.
It bums me out when people give a women a free pass on her failings, then shift the blame onto the man.
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Gidget
July 22, 2015 at 2:23 PM
Oh, and one more thing. When he tells her to pretend that nothing happened the night before (when he was picking fights) and pastes on that giant grin...she shouldn't have let that drop. She knows that he pastes on that particular grin to mask deep pain. A good best friend would have helped him talk it out. In their case, with a drink to help him loosen up.
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34 sweetsour
July 22, 2015 at 11:34 AM
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35 Aigoo!YuanFen
July 22, 2015 at 12:28 PM
Not only did he let Hana think she’d been cruelly abandoned on that day of all days, he had three freaking years to explain himself. That’s 1,095 days he could’ve used just one of to call her up and tell her that his being late was out of his hands. That’s 26,297 hours he wasted for apparently no good reason before randomly coming back to tell her he never wants to lose her again, when the reason he lost her at all was because he wasn’t willing to walk twenty yards to tell her he’d been held up by forces beyond his control.
It’ll really suck for Won if, after all this time, he ends up losing his chance to tell Hana his true feelings because Seo-hoo kept a post-it note. Except he’s had seventeen years, and only recently decided that he did have real feelings for her. It does make me wonder when and how Won changed from “I’ll never love you” to “Never mind I love you,” but I guess that’d mean people in this show would need to start talking turkey. Gobble gobble, The Time I’ve Lied To You. Gobble gobble.
I rather she not end up with both
She can't take care of herself and change as shown in ep 4 with sung jae.
Instead she gets herself into this messy,tangled,and sticky love web between a guy who suddenly decides her loves her after 1067 days proving it with a sticky note or the other one
Who had an even longer seventeen years (6,209.117 days) to confess but nope he never did directly correct her on his "I'll never love you" and couldn't even tell he liked for for years.That enough time to figure out your feelings,confess or get rejected,date,get married,have a family,and live happily ever after..
Plus even if she picks any of them she has to have a long distance realationship and most of them don't work out.
What are these leads doing ?
It a hard choice deciding not going to lie...
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36 Bgoddezz
July 22, 2015 at 12:50 PM
I personally think that Hana is a really relate able character. She's completely human. As far as Won, I can see why he's haven't made the move. Sure it's frustrating, but put yourself in his or her situation. This person has been around forever and you actually love them but since you don't want to be 'completely' rejected about love by them, you play it safer by hinting it and continuing on with your life. Also, since Hana is always in and out of 'like' with other people, Won is unsure when she is ready for him also.
This drama may seem slow to many people because it seems to go a bit more at a 'real time' pace. A bit frustrating, but I love it.
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37 Webby
July 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM
This drama is a joke....
Putting forth stereotypical characterization and views on Seo-hoo and his circles as a tortured musician (inspired by whiplash?). What a joke...
I'm beginning to wonder if indeed Oh Hana is a mature woman and a professional. What a joke...
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38 rating
July 22, 2015 at 1:40 PM
I enjoyed the show, except at the end of ep.8 when Hana found the post-it note & intended to go back to Seo hoo. I wanted a racket to hit hard on her head to wake up her consciousness & rationality, to remind her of her words, "no men to focus only professionally work", and to think thoroughly again about the reconciliation.
3 years time pasted by, everything changed, people changed, though she still had lingering feeling towards him, she should leave some space to re-study him, not suddenly jump back to him. It's o.k. to know that he went late to the engagement without her grudge on his abandonment, but what's about the feelings of people around her (her family, her friends, her colleagues if they know). It's great to find that he still kept the old memorial post-it notes, but the remaining feelings can be only appreciation & grateful that he still remembered it.
This jerk left her 3 yrs w/o a word, came w/o explanation & regret, humiliated her family by abandonment, intervened & created problem to her work, caused of her 1 year planned project to be transferred to others, & etc. Hana is so CHEAP to go back with only post-it notes, unclear explanation, & linger ing feeling. Even her high school friends called her this when she couldn't appear on their gathering party for her promotion.
Becaus of this, Seo hoo loved Hana over the girls he dated before 'cos he saw it' s easy for him to manipulate & control. His arrogant, manipulative & dominant manners were only the surface, dept down he lacked power to control anything even his life, schedule, or his pianist performance were totally controlled by his agency & his teacher.
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39 rating
July 22, 2015 at 3:09 PM
I'm sorry but I can't bare on Hana character anymore. This is not because of Wonnie to be left heart broken for the next episode, he deserved it. But, Hana character looks totally cheap, stupid in love, not growing up.
3 times already that she was abandoned by men (Seo hoo, her cheating colleague, the intern), but she's still easily jump to the same old trap). Why!
I really wish the next week episode Hana goes back to Seo Hoon & returns the books to him. Thanks him for still keeping the post-it notes, but time passing by, everything has already changed even her feeling to him at this moment.
She should take some space to be in dependent, gradually re-study him, & continue to work with him professionally, and to have grown up clear judgement in relationship either toward Wonnie or Seo Hoo.
In TW version, You Qing character also annoyed a lot. Why can't the writers improve the weakness & come out with new ideas since Oh Hana & You Qing are completely different.
I hope Wonnie will not give up on Hana easily, though he has to continue with his secret & back to his friend zone. He should pursue his career opportunity by going training abroad to give him sometime to think while continuing his remote contact with Hana. This will prove that distance can't seperate them.
Maybe, there's a plane crash accident happens during his flight visiting hometown, then he will realize it time to confess & tell his secret; while it will choke Hana to find whom she'
s really love.
However, it will be too late because people will start to drop the show for no grow. Sad!
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40 aoisakura
July 22, 2015 at 5:23 PM
...I now get why they keep changing WRITERS. Storyline is crappy... Damage is done, so they need to fill up the story gap. Such a shame having A rated stars on this drama. They should have learned from HJM. That everything is a collaboration not just from the cast, but writers, PD and etc for a drama to work.
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41 Joly moly
July 22, 2015 at 6:59 PM
This will be my first time commenting.ive been a fan of this website since forever and prefer to read the comments than making one.however this drama is soo frustrating that i feel the need to comment on something.i love the original version..so much that i hope this adaptation will at least keep the essence of the original..meaning the relationship of the female character with everyone around her.her family,her coworker,her boss..especially with her best friend.that makes us know her better.this drama just focus on the romance aspect of the story,even their frienship is kind of romanticizes? I can't really explain it but thats what i feel.in the original li da ren is a great char not just because of his feeling towards her but by being a great friend.not that won is not,but maybe it is not the aspect that is focused much in this version. I can only sees him as someone that having a huge crush on his friend.it such a pity..they had a great piece as their source and yet..oh well.. I think I will just replay the original..
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42 ryoko
July 22, 2015 at 7:33 PM
The reference to SM's dungeon/basement made me laugh.
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43 missj_s2
July 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM
I think everyone that commented here instead should be the director and writer since you all know better! XD
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44 sailorgirl
July 23, 2015 at 8:37 AM
I don't buy the whole "concert getting in the way of the engagement" excuse because unless the company felt very confidently in his ability to perform on the spot, they would have at least given him time to prepare. He would also be more valuable to them if he were such a talent and they wouldn't be the slave holders they are made out to be.
It doesn't help that his character is so arrogant and unlikeable. He's pushy and surly and even though he's been missing for 3 years acts as though he has a right to run Hana's life. I'm sorry, but when did being overbearing ever look attractive? I guess Hana is the one to blame since she gives him that right. I would have promptly slapped him if he randomly grabbed my feet or sat too close, especially when told not to, it's a total invasion of privacy.
The actor playing Seo Hoo was one of my favourites in the drama, Faith where he was so lighthearted and likeable, but after Pinocchio and the role he served there I would have preferred that he go for a more charismatic part to act. He still looks like the tortured brother and not the sympathetic look but the slightly psychotic one where he went around killing people.
I love Ha Ji Won and her wardrobe, but Hana running back to her ex at the end of episode 8 told me that it may be in the best interest of my sanity to come back when things have picked up. (In the meantime someone PLEASE PLEASE start a look book for this character? Her wardrobe is banging and I WANT.)
I got lots of feels from the first few episodes (1-4) and those were strong, but these latter offerings are lacking and appear disjointed from the beginning storyline. I know that multiple changes in the writers are to blame but it doesn't help the story or my willingness to watch a drama that seems to be stalling with angst until the last two episodes when they'll hurriedly wrap everything up. I love Won and think he's a bonafide hunk but even having him as eye candy is gradually not being enough to hold my interest.
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45 rating
July 23, 2015 at 11:45 AM
If the writers can't come out with good attractive story, then just copy the original TW version. Since the beginning plots of K-version were adapted, not followed exactly from the original one, why not follow the track & come out with own unique ways, just based the story around the main plot BBFs turns lovers.
I thinks the story of drama, "Producer", is very similar. It's also revolving around BBFs turns lovers, but in their own ways. It's more fun & attractive. The rating was better.
Good thing of remake is that the weak points of the original one can be seen already in order to rectify & to improve; while maintain & emphasize the strong points.
Hope the writers can make the story to progress & have each characters to grow & do not disappoint us through the next 8 episodes.
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46 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 26, 2015 at 11:12 PM
*SPOILER*
not many progress even after epi 9 & 10. but at least we can see both Hana n Won seems to be awkward with each other. i dunno why, but i think Hana may start to figure out her actual feeling. but still i found Hana to be so stupid @_@ so easy to get back with her first love. but i want Won to have another girl, maybe a girl who has a crush with her (but please another girl aside from his co-worker).. i want someone who can make Hana truly feels jealous.
I cant have any feeling toward the second leAd, coz i already love Won too much, no space for that second lead.
BECause there are Ha Ji Won and Lee Jin Wook as the leads, even the story is so slow and not well-developed, i dun think i can hate this drama too much.
i truly can feel their love and friendship.
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47 mangjuan
September 21, 2015 at 5:57 AM
Maaaaaan. I don't know if the reason why I'm not loving this drama is because I'm soooo completely in love with the TW version (In Time With You) and Ha Ji Won's character in SeGa that kept me comparing.
ITWY was heart-wrenching yet sincerely loving between the characters and the storyline. Great acting, great and smooth plot, and great lines! But with this, yes I get the whole in-love-with-the-bestfriend thing but I can't feel from Won the pain of loving someone whom you vowed not to love. The contradictions and the irony of being in love.
I thought I would be able to love this just like how much I love the original one, with Ha Ji Won in this, but I guess the plot for me was too slow. And imagine there's 8 more episodes of this to go! -___-
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48 ginnysa
September 28, 2015 at 12:59 AM
can anyone please tell me the name of the music started playing when Seo Hoo told Ha Na to go with him to choose shoes for him? I have been looking for this. Thanks in advance.
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49 Marie14
March 3, 2020 at 3:04 AM
Can they just start dating?... I love Won and oh na na together
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