Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 14
by Saya
This was an episode of things I’ve been wanting to happen for a long, long time. It starts light (and bromantic!) for the Lunar New Year, but we pick up momentum as the show gets ready to enter its last quarter. The puzzle pieces fit together, one after the other, and the mystery of the basement is unlocked once and for all. I think. But that only leaves us with a whole new set of questions, the most pressing of which is: How will we wait until Wednesday?
EPISODE 14 RECAP
Ri-on comes out to look for Do-hyun, and overhears him asking Ri-jin to see him as a man. She cites the contract to Do-hyun, which forbids her from falling in love with him or any of the alters. He counters that he will pay for the breach of contract.
He steps closer and reaches for her hand, when he notices the charred photo of Min Seo-yeon in the trash can. In surprise, he tells Ri-jin that the woman is his mother on the family registry. Why is it here? Ri-on announces himself by saying the photo is his.
Do-hyun’s mom shouts at her investigator for not finding that child yet. He says they’ve found out who took the child away on the night of the fire.
Grandma Seo turns over Do-hyun’s declaration to find out the secrets of his past. Mom finds her in her study, and Grandma orders her to go to the U.S. with Do-hyun and live how she wants.
Mom comments that it would have been nice if Grandma had shown Do-hyun even a little warmth as her grandson; then he wouldn’t have become a person who threatened his parents. She says that Grandma’s indebted to her — it’s thanks to her that Do-hyun’s dad is alive. She points out that no matter how much Grandma dislikes it, Do-hyun is his father’s only bloodline. Getting increasingly worked up, she demands that Grandma bring Do-hyun back immediately.
Do-hyun asks Ri-on why he had the picture. Ri-on tells him he was planning to write a mystery novel based on the Seungjin family, but abandoned it after being caught by Ri-jin. Do-hyun isn’t convinced by the glib explanation and they take off to talk privately. Ri-on warns his sister not to follow, so of course, she does.
Ensconced in a car, Do-hyun asks with quiet anger what Ri-on’s interest is in his family history. Ri-on says he was investigating what happened with Do-hyun’s father, Min Seo-yeon, and Do-hyun’s biological mother. Since he’s already stopped, though, he tells Do-hyun to drop it. Apologizing, he gets out.
Do-hyun chases him to finish their talk, but Dad catches both of them. Seizing each by an ear, he sets them to work because the restaurant is so busy, and sends Ri-jin inside to help Mom.
While they do Dad’s chores, Do-hyun tells Ri-on about his own fear of basements. He knows Ri-jin has the same fear, and asks if “The Child in the Basement” is based on the siblings’ story. Ri-on admits it is, although he doesn’t explain if there’s a connection to Seungjin. Recalling that the reason for the boy’s fear was because he loved the girl, Do-hyun surmises that they must not be biological siblings.
Dad is so exasperated by the boys’ intense gaze-offs every time he comes by that he bangs their heads together, accusing them of acting out their own melo, and they cry in pain.
Undeterred, Do-hyun wants to know if Ri-on found out the reason for Ri-jin’s fear. But at this point, Ri-on can’t deal with any more Do-hyun in his face, when he’s still scarred from Yo-na.
The family and Do-hyun enjoy celebratory drinks together to see in the new year. They even break the fourth wall for a moment and wish us a happy new year, aww.
Dad thanks “Perry” for his hard work, and gives him allowance money. Do-hyun is startled and turns it down, but Dad and Ri-on encourage him to, so he accepts.
Next, it’s selca time, and Dad and Ri-on bicker. Do-hyun watches, part bewildered and part amused by this display of family, so unlike his own. They take lots of pictures, and Do-hyun — who has to be reminded to smile — is in the center of all of them.
The worse for drink now, Dad urges Do-hyun/Perry to enjoy more of his brew, but Do-hyun makes the excuse that he’s not a good drinker. Mom and Ri-on add to the pressure, and all of a sudden, drunk Ri-jin springs up and yells at them (with her eyes closed, lol) to leave him alone: “My man doesn’t want to drink!” She invokes freedom and democracy, and girl you are going to be so mortified in the morning, ha.
Mom and Dad are shocked by her confession, and Ri-on commences a brotherly telling-off. She just leans right over him to Do-hyun and declares that she’ll be his black knight (substitute drinker). But she only gets about halfway through his glass before she passes out and clatters to the floor, squishing Ri-on.
Both boys dive to help her up. Each of them grasp an arm and they tug the limp Ri-jin back and forth, arguing about who gets to tuck her in, until Mom yells that she’ll rip her in half. Dad adds the observation that they’ve been like this all day, filming their own little drama. Haha.
Ri-on wins and piggybacks her to her room, but is quickly made redundant by Do-hyun’s super-fast tucking-in skills. Do-hyun grins like crazy thinking of her calling him her man, and Ri-on just watches him slack-jawed.
Mom’s made up a bed for Do-hyun in Ri-on’s room, and they settle down to sleep. Do-hyun thanks Ri-on for being a good friend, and letting him meet good people. Ri-on contradicts him — he’s not a good friend. But if Do-hyun is okay with a bad friend, he’ll give it a shot. Seriously, aww. My feels. That’s enough for Do-hyun, and he grins in the dark.
Ri-jin falls off her bed and wakes up to the memory of her last words before she passed out. She wails with shame, and Ri-on finds her outside, communing with the family dog. He throws her some hangover relief and says it’s her own fault for trying to keep up with Dad’s drinking.
Do-hyun wakes up to find Ri-on gone. He finds both siblings on the veranda, their backs to him. He listens to Ri-on parse her dream of playing with a little boy and then being approached by a dark shadow.
Ri-on tells her that the boy was him, and as for the shadow, he mimes an advertising dancing balloon. There used to be one at the supermarket when they were kids, and she used to be so scared of it, he reminds her. She accepts his explanation, happy that talking things out with him is so comfortable.
Mom finds Do-hyun watching them, and quietly takes him in for soup. Do-hyun laps up both soup and Mom’s warmth. They chat about how he quit his job in a fit of anger, and Mom asks his opinion of Ri-jin from a man’s point of view. She’s cute, he admits shyly. Mom is thrilled by the assessment, and rattles off more of her virtues.
He’s envious of the twins’ close bond, and Mom says she had a hard time raising the little firebrands because they were always so full of fight and energy. She offers to show Do-hyun their childhood pictures.
Ri-jin wonders why Ri-on has such clear childhood memories, when she has so few, despite their same age. Ri-on reminds her of Mom’s explanation, that during a big house-fire when they were children, only she inhaled the toxic fumes which affected her memories.
It makes her understand Do-hyun more, she tells him. Because her family were filling the empty parts of her memory every day, she was able to heal. But Do-hyun’s family covered up the past and hid it, which left Do-hyun with unhealed wounds.
But she remembers some things, she tells Ri-on: “The day you and I became twin brother and sister.” He looks at her in surprise. We return to the memory of the day little Ri-on pushed her, when he told her to hit him back — he wants a sister with guts, not a wimp.
“You…knew?” present Ri-on asks in shock. She sniffs back tears, then catches the scent of Mom’s soup. Breaking the moment, she follows her nose inside.
Mom and Do-hyun look through her old photo albums and she shows him a birthday photo. She gets a little nervous when Do-hyun remarks that of course being twins, they had the same birthday. Do-hyun’s head rings in reaction to one photo — the one of Ri-jin taken the day she and Ri-on became siblings. In his memory, a child’s voice asks him, “What is your name?”
Mom asks him his Korean name, but luckily, Ri-jin’s arrival and demands for soup interrupt. Ri-jin stops short when she sees Do-hyun, ha, and hides behind Ri-on in mortification. When she peeks around him, Do-hyun grins at her. Hahaha.
The siblings playfully cajole Mom for soup, and follow behind her like baby ducks. While they’re gone, Do-hyun quietly pockets the photo.
Do-hyun tells Chief Ahn on the phone that he’s at Ri-jin’s. The chief is worried (especially when he hears about Yo-na), but Do-hyun reassures him that he’s more than comfortable, and proudly tells him that he even received allowance. But Chief Ahn has news — they’ve found a witness for the fire, a catering employee. Do-hyun tells him to investigate further.
Do-hyun calls Ri-jin out for lurking. He catches her by the hand and takes her to the basement, wedging the door open this time, so they don’t get locked in. She apologizes for her drunken behavior earlier, but he gently interrupts. He asks her if he can’t be the first person she goes to when she’s having a hard time, or wants to talk.
He tells her that he’s also afraid of basements, and has two bad memories of them — one from his childhood, and the other more recent. Her embarrassment about the aborted kiss the last time they were here makes him smile.
He continues, “Whatever it is, I want to overcome everything together with you. I want to erase my bad memories, too, with good memories with you. So…”
“So…” Ri-jin replies, “I’ll do it with you.” Do-hyun closes the distance between them to kiss her. They break to smile at each other, and Ri-jin initiates the second kiss.
But it wakes up another childhood memory for Do-hyun. In the basement of doom, a clock strikes. A hand holds onto little Do-hyun, and adult Do-hyun realizes it’s a girl.
“Don’t go. Play with me,” she says, her face still shadowed. She shows him a locket with a picture of her mom, and adult Do-hyun is astonished to recognize Min Seo-yeon. Little Do-hyun breaks it to her that her mom is dead.
Do-hyun wakes up in the wine cellar of Grandma’s house with a teddy bear in his arms. Confused and disorientated, he’s pulled into a vision of the little girl, who takes the bear and hides in the corner. The bear’s name is Nana, she tells him, and shows him her drawing.
The vision gives way to a memory. Evil Dad discovers Do-hyun’s clandestine visits to the girl, and he advances on her. Little Do-hyun begs Dad to hit him instead. Both children sob, and adult Do-hyun sobs with them.
Ri-jin goes to wake the boys and finds Do-hyun already gone. But Dr. Seok joins their breakfast party, and is surprised that “Perry” was there. The mood is merry, but Ri-on notices how quiet his sister is.
Grandma takes her New Year’s breakfast alone. Do-hyun’s mom drops by with the observation that their usual visitors must be paying their respects somewhere more worthwhile. She tells Grandma again that bringing Do-hyun back in is her only option if she wants to keep the company safe.
Ki-joon’s family including Chae-yeon visit, ostensibly to pay their respects to Grandma, but Mom calls them out on their real intent. Ki-joon’s mom wants to flaunt her bride, while his dad is checking that Do-hyun really is properly cut off. She excuses herself to get them wine, and throws a gibe at Ki-joon’s mom. She doesn’t want to waste good wine on a dirty face, yo.
She’s dismayed to find Do-hyun slumped in the cellar. Coming up to her, he asks if the child she’s searching for is Min Seo-yeon’s daughter. Near tears, Do-hyun asks, “Was the abused child not me, but that child?” Rattled by his insistent questioning, Mom yells at him for being absurd, but he roars back that Mom saw everything and used the knowledge to her advantage. Why did she lie?
“My father the assailant and my mother the bystander turned me into an assailant and bystander. I can no longer be a victim,” he cries. He promises to find the child first, and atone by any means necessary, even if he has to sell Seungjin whole. “I will no longer trust your words,” he vows. “I will only believe the truth I find myself, and the memories I remember.”
He leaves her there, and she falls to her knees.
True to Mom’s words, Ki-joon’s dad is feeling out where Do-hyun stands with Grandma. She confirms that he’s returning to the U.S., and says it was a mistake to have brought him in now.
Do-hyun enters abruptly, and without preamble asks Grandma if she was aware of the goings-on in this house 21 years ago. The family watches intently as Grandma, fearful, tries to shut him up. Ignoring it, he tells her he will find out everything that happened and her role in it, and then he’ll reveal it all.
On the drive home, Ki-joon’s parents speculate on Grandma’s unspeakable secret. Mom wonders if it’s to do with the fire or Min Seo-yeon’s child, and Dad chuckles that either way, it’ll be interesting.
Do-hyun’s mom numbly replays Do-hyun’s threat to sell Seungjin to compensate that child. She decides that she can’t allow him to undo everything she’s suffered for. She calls her investigator and he tells her that they’ve found the child, and to check her phone for the photo.
She opens the file and her jaw drops, because of course, it’s Ri-jin. She now sees her presence beside Do-hyun and her inquiries into his childhood in a menacing light. She’s stricken that Ri-jin’s gotten her teeth into her son already, and calls her man back with the order to capture and bring her to her using all necessary force.
Ri-jin tells Dr. Seok about the strange flashback she experienced in the cellar of the Seungjin house, and describes feeling like she used to draw on a basement wall. But she wonders if she’s mixing up Do-hyun’s memories with hers. Dr. Seok asks if the shock was what caused her to faint, and Ri-jin explains her fear of basements.
She also tells him that her childhood memories were always incomplete, but this is the first time something like this has appeared. Dr. Seok thinks there must be a reason why it’s surfacing now. The distress of those memories is a symptom of something unresolved, he tells her — perhaps the time is right to examine past wounds.
She comes out to see Dr. Seok off, and he recommends that she and Do-hyun visit his office together for a session. He makes his getaway before her mom can give him any more food.
Another car pulls up and several men get out. One of them calls Ri-jin by name and tells her someone wants to see her. She asks who it is, but his silence sets off alarm bells. When she tries to back away, they seize her.
Ri-on comes out to walk the dog and sees them stuff her into their car. Frantic, he leaps into his car and peels after them. They notice the tail and dammit Ri-on, is this the time to stop at traffic lights?!
Do-hyun stares off with his reflection, and his bathroom looks different in daylight. Ri-on phones and tells him that Ri-jin was kidnapped — does Do-hyun know anything? He has no idea, but he’s as frantic with worry as Ri-on. Luckily, Chief Ahn previously installed a tracker on her phone, and Do-hyun follows the signal.
Meanwhile, the kidnappers report their successful capture and confirm that they weren’t followed. Ri-jin lies unconscious in what looks like another basement.
Do-hyun’s car barrels right through their perimeter guard and men leap out of the way. The kidnappers try to block him, three on one, but he fights back. He takes a few hits, and before long, he’s clutching his head at the telltale ringing that signals a shift.
His assailants stand back and a new fight starts. Se-gi’s tattoo creeps up his neck, and in his head, Se-gi tells him to move aside — he can’t handle it. Do-hyun resists, and roars that he will do it, it’s his fight. The tattoo fades away, but a thug clocks him a blow to the head that brings him to his knees.
It seems to have broken something — the wall of memory between him and Se-gi. And now, Se-gi’s memories pour into Do-hyun’s mind, mixing with his own. Se-gi tells Ri-jin she called him a long time ago. The little girl asks him to stay and play with her.
Transported into the playroom of memory, he hears Ri-jin’s question to Se-gi: Is she in the missing memories that Do-hyun can’t remember? For the first time, he sees the little girl’s face unshadowed, and recognition hits him: The girl is Ri-jin.
The scenario plays out again — the clock strikes, and she asks him not to go. She’s afraid of basements, but if he’s there, she feels better. Adult Ri-jin echoing her younger self mixes into the memories. Little Do-hyun promises to come back, every night at 10 o’clock. Se-gi says similar words about falling for Ri-jin at 10 pm. Evil Dad approaches the children. He plucks away little Do-hyun, who’s shielding Ri-jin, and the memory fades to black as Do-hyun returns, screaming, to the present.
But the memory-spill from Se-gi continues with more recent encounters: Se-gi kissing Ri-jin. The confrontation with Grandma and his conversation at Dad’s bedside. “I became a monster because of you,” he’d told Dad. Se-gi telling him that he took on the pain Do-hyun couldn’t.
And at the end of it all, Ri-jin pleading to Do-hyun, “Don’t go.”
COMMENTS
At last. I’ve been waiting for everything that happened this episode, but two things especially: for Do-hyun to find out the girl in the basement was Ri-jin, and for the wall between him and Se-gi to be smashed.
I almost don’t want to talk about any of it, because I feel like it hit that delicate line of anguish and payoff just right. If I talk about it, the magic might vanish.
So let’s start light and talk bromance and all together now: awwwww! Ri-on’s been a decent chap (and an excellent brother) all along, and I love that he likes and respects Do-hyun despite himself. Contrary to some interpretations, I don’t think he sees Do-hyun as a romantic rival, nor does he have romantic intentions towards Ri-jin. I think he’s mainly struggling with the feeling of displacement, which is why he’s jealous of Do-hyun. He’s used to — and cherishes — being the “first person” in Ri-jin’s life. That’s why Do-hyun’s request to her in their basement-date is meaningful, and worded that way. But it’s practically a rite of passage for close siblings or friends to have to make room for that other person, and it’s normal to experience a sense of loss of grief while it happens. But you adjust to the new reality — or in Ri-on’s case, make friends with the enemy (in the heartwarmingest way possible) and lend him your most favorite clothes.
Let me rewind to last week’s foreshadowing for a second, to when Do-hyun said, “You will soon be me,” and purposely conflated it with, “I will soon be you.” It was a striking first, as he took full ownership of Se-gi as part of himself, not an impostor. But the signs of their essential sameness have been steadily increasing for a while. His confrontation with his mother in the cellar, where he swears to atone and give Seungjin to that child, is practically verbatim what Se-gi said to Grandma previously. So that’s the backdrop to their battle at the end of this episode. This time, when Se-gi tries to take control, we witness the exchange. Is Se-gi’s respect new? There’s a sense that they’re finally meeting as equals, and that Se-gi’s motivation for taking over really is to protect Do-hyun.
I have no doubt that Se-gi would make short work of the kidnap situation — he’s efficient at that kind of thing — but the battle of wills was a significant test. Do-hyun can only prove to him that he can fight their bigger battles if he can fight Se-gi away first. When Se-gi cedes, it’s at once permission to remain, and acknowledgement of his ability to handle it — in other words, Do-hyun passes the test. And so, judging him finally ready to take on the pain of the past, Se-gi surrenders his memories to him.
That’s why I’m afraid this is the end of Se-gi as we knew him. I know absorbing his alters is necessary to Do-hyun’s healing, but I can’t deny that Se-gi’s existence brought something special to the show. His edge of wildness took him to really interesting (and hilarious) places as a character, especially since he could do things Do-hyun couldn’t, unrestrained by manners, obligation or social convention. But while I will miss his madness, it’s also a compelling turn for Do-hyun’s character. Equipped with the missing memories and knowledge of Ri-jin’s true identity, the stakes have changed. He won’t just be a little more daring or a little less self-effacing — knowing the truth is the final push he needs, not only to embrace his inner Se-gi, but to lead a major offensive against all the perpetrators as we enter the show’s last act.
His announcement in front of the whole Seungjin family was great. Because his interest at this point is not in gaining leverage at the company, he may have (inadvertently) created an ally in his uncle. There’s more than one way to fight Grandma, and though they may not yet know it, Do-hyun and his uncle are suddenly united by their common goal to reveal her unspeakable secrets. Although their ends are different, it doesn’t really matter as long as the truth comes out.
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1 Aidualc
February 23, 2015 at 8:18 AM
Loved the moment Ri-on reluctantly agrees to be Do-hyun's friend, because bromance.
And lol at the moment they break the fourth wall to greet the viewers then they just continue acting.
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM
I love love the part that the broke the fourth wall and wished all of us a happy lunar new year.
It was so sweet and natural at the same time.
It made me feel that we are a part of their family too, and they acknowledge our presence :)
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adelaide
February 23, 2015 at 12:31 PM
Agree!
This must be the 3rd time I think I'm so taken by Ji Sung's charms. The first time was in "Protect the Boss" it was a slow process, he doesn't look like Gong Yoo or Lee Min Ho but there's just something about him.
Then in 2013, kdrama was scarce, I looked for korean romcom movies and My PS partner was on the list, by looking at the stills, I know the girl, Kim Ah Jung but I forgot Ji Sung already, then again I was really attracted to the guy, I thought he looked familiar, oh, geez so it was him.
and now, he just perfected his charms, when he smiles, it's like the world just got brighter.
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KDaddict?JCW
February 23, 2015 at 8:03 PM
Ji Sung's charms:
Ji Sung deserves all the acting awards out there this year. If he doesn't win the Baesang, then that award is a joke.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM
-- It made me feel that we are a part of their family too, and they acknowledge our presence--
so true Aria, some says that the scene make them bring down the mood just like the crowds on Yo Na running like crazy scene, but I dont feel the same way, even how bad people talks about the show, I dont care at all, I love it love it love it so...LOL
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Bea
February 23, 2015 at 7:32 PM
Same here! It was an awesome moment of them acknowledging us! It was so well done and sincere... this damn show keeps pulling at my worn out heartstrings!!!
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jademwong
February 23, 2015 at 10:30 PM
I agree! I've actually been loving all the times they broke the fourth wall. I love that the show knows how to have a bit of fun.
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SC
March 9, 2015 at 8:33 PM
Wait when else did the show break the fourth wall? I only noticed this one
redfox
February 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM
when I first saw that moment I jumped up and yelled "I LOVE YOU TOO!!!" cause really, this show is so open to the audeince and so self-conscious, and does everything we want. and much more than we expect.
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Bea
February 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM
So true redfox!!!! Couldn't have said it better myself!
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2 fantasy
February 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM
So CDH and ORJ are half siblings????? :o
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TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 8:38 AM
I don't think so, I believe the mother listed on the register had an affair(that produced ORJ) and left the house(or attempted to).
CDH real mom made a statement about being the one to keep CDH's dad alive even when that women left and he wanted to die.
Also, its prob the reason ORJ was kept in the basement and abused right? Kdramas thing with adults hating children that remind them of someone's infidelity, or of an enemy, or if that child poses a "threat" to inheritance etc.
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fantasy
February 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM
If Ri Ji is not blood related to CDH's dad, then how she could be a threat to inheritance??? Why Shin Se Gi told to give her Sungjin group as if it was her birth right to own that ???
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TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM
I don't personally think that RiJin is an actual threat-she is (to the main house) part of a scandalous past that must remain buried. Also, if the Chairwoman had decided to let Do Hyun stay- his uncle and others could have tried (or will try) to use RiJin as a pawn in their play for power- though they aren't actually sure how she is relative to Seungjin Group. I don't think it matters to them either, anyone they can use sway power to their side of the company/family they will try to use.
I think Shin Se Gi ,and now Cha Do Hyun in this episode, want to atone to RiJin because she was abused and locked up because of his family, because people may have tried to use her to gain power. The pain they have suffered is because of the company and giving it to her or destroying it may seem right.
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TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 9:31 AM
Also, think if they let the press know of the secret daughter of seungjin group (I'm making up headlines now lol).
Kdrama history has shown that stock prices would drop, board members would be upset and look to change the head of the group.
Who best to swoop in and take over than someone like the uncle who is still related but not actually apart of any "scandal" and who has a lot of people behind him. Then the president, his son/DoHyun's cousin, would be next in line and so on and so forth.
moochie
February 24, 2015 at 7:18 AM
Wasn't ORJ's biological mom a favorite of the old Chairman? He even asked ORJ's mom to go back to the Korea even though she already left Joon Pyo (most likely because of his violent behavior)... anyways, ORJ's mom probably has a bit more power within the Seungjin group that Chairwoman likes and enough of it that her Son's position within the company can be questioned.
OR
ORJ's mom is actually the appointed heir by the Chairman. But since Chairman and ORJ's mom are already dead... ORJ has a fighting chance to have the chair position... or something..
We also have to remember that CDH has said multiple times that he will give the company to "that child"... Hence people seeing ORJ as a threat to their greed.
gem28
February 23, 2015 at 9:56 AM
Why, of course she is a threat to them even if she is not a part of Cha bloodline. Min Seo Yeon was rich and I assume had considerable amount of shares in the conglomerate. Ri Jin will inherit those. Also, she was abused which makes the comatose dad, the vile mistress and the grandmonster criminals. If Ri Jin comes back and finds a way to prove it, it makes them all eligible for some jail time so anyone in their position should be afraid. And I pray to God that we get a scene of the grandmonster and the mistress in handcuffs doing a walk of shame down their beloved office hallway. Sick, awful people, they deserve to be humiliated and be in jail?? The son is comatose so unless he wakes up, he can't be punished now, can he?? And no way, our OTP can't be blood related. They are confusing us but will clear it soon enough I guess and hope so.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM
Amen on handcuffs and walk of shame, bastards!
Cyril
February 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM
+1 on that!!!!
Erin
February 23, 2015 at 10:48 AM
I have a gut feeling that ORJ's father is the grandfather. The way they set up the backstory implied that the grandfather and the father's wife were really close, too close. It would also explain why the grandmother and father would condone ORJ's abuse.
That means, of course, that if CDH's father is the grandmother's son, then ORJ would be CDH's aunt, which makes me think that CDH does not share the family's bloodline and his mother passed off someone else's kid. That would explain why the grandmother has no respect or consideration for him, even though she dotes on her son.
This show is killing me!
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madridista
February 23, 2015 at 11:42 AM
I doubt that the grandfather is Ri Jin's father, that would be way too complicated, the remaining episodes are not enough to reveal a new birth secret for Di Hyun, resolve the family conflict, have all the personalities merge with Do-Hyun and have a satisfying for the baddies. I mean we didn't even see Mr X yet. I really think he was protecting his daughter-in-law from his awful son, and his oeudipus-complexed wife.
anotheraddict
February 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM
I haven't wanted to say anything, but that's been my gut feeling, too! The grandfather's humongous portrait suggests that he's part of a humongous secret. I figured that Grandma engineered the car accident. Also, the drama starts by showing us Grandpa and Min Seo-yeon together (in the car)-- if their togetherness wasn't significant, then why not just have one or both of them die in the fire? And it just feels like Ri-jin is the heir by birthright (Ri-on probably is too). Hopefully CDH has his own birth secret and isn't RJ's nephew. Or, I could be totally wrong and just jumping to conclusions after having watched too many birth-secret dramas.
Little RJ said something like "My mom said she's coming for me after I sleep three times", which seemed like another clue-- perhaps a family split was in process, which led to a not-so-accidental car accident.
kellibean
February 23, 2015 at 12:29 PM
Yes, I agree with madridrista on this. They aren't blood related. I think the grandfather saw that his family was crazy, and had fatherly intentions.
redfox
February 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM
I dont think so, cause who would want an old man? I dont think ORJ´s mom was crazy like that
Scarlett
February 23, 2015 at 3:32 PM
@redfox, why not? She was crazy enough to marry a man that abused childrens!
redfox
February 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM
that, she couldnt have known before hand. but old is quite clear
Athie_aza
February 25, 2015 at 2:17 AM
yeah i have that feeling too. that's why when CDH mother saw that CDH father still hiden pic of ORJ mother she said that she knows that CDH father still loving ORJ mother. because CDH mother know the truth that ORJ is daughter of min seo yeon and the grandfather...
Aidualc
February 23, 2015 at 8:38 AM
Not blood related. Ri-jin's mother was married to CDH's father but they divorced and then she had RJ with another man.
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February 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM
if they were divorced, I wonder how Ri-jin ended up in the hands of abusive dad?
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shinayame
February 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM
I don't think they were divorced, just separated. Remember when the uncle said that Do Hyun's grandfather was close to her? Maybe he persuaded her to come back, and she'd already had Ri Jin by then...Do Hyun's father being what he was, he probably wouldn't have accepted Ri Jin as his own child, especially if he loved her mother like Do Hyun's mom said. Maybe So-Yeon lived with the grandfather as protection against Do Hyun's dad, but dad kept her daughter as leverage so she wouldn't leave him. And then, the accident happened and the house burnt down...
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Aidualc
February 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM
CDH's grandfather bought Ri-jin's mother and her child back from America to make her the CEO and they had a car accident and both died so Ri-jin ended with CDH' family after her mother died. At least that's how I understood.
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TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about the grandfather. Which means there were internal struggles between the Chairwoman and her husband. He was the original Chairperson right? If someone could prove it was his will/intent to have RiJin as the rightful heir despite blood ties then the current Chairwoman or anyone she chooses as a successor would be outed.
Which is why RiJin was hidden even after her mom died right? If she doesn't exist she isn't a threat. And...this is why RiOn doesn't want the mom to know DoHyun's family/occupation. It would bring back the memories of her friend and the strife..sigh. Kdramaland why??
Yah...this is why online recaps and comments are needed- to refresh your memory, start dialogue and hey, we all need people to geek out with :)
CryStAL
February 24, 2015 at 1:35 AM
Yep. I remember in a few episodes back it was said that the Grandfather trust/love MSY so much more than his son that he makes her the President/CEO/Owner of the company.
james94131
February 23, 2015 at 10:53 AM
My guess is that we are in for a classic wild kdrama melo ride.
First, in one episode it will be revealed that Ji-Rin is actually the daughter of an affair between the grandfather/chairman and Min Seo Yeon. This will generate huge angst since the OTP would now seem to be blood-related (aunt and nephew pairing). Ji-Rin is now fabulously wealthy since she is a direct heir of the grandfather.
Second, but in the next episode it will be revealed that Do Hyun's biological mother lied about who fathered him, so Do Hyun in fact is not blood related to Ji-Rin. Thus, the OTP can continue incest-free, and it would also be in the best interest of the corporation because the wealth can be routed to Ji-Rin by marriage to Do Hyun without having to reveal all of the scandals or to correct the register.
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madridista
February 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM
I hope not. This drama has been so good at avoiding all the k-drama clichés so far, it would be really disappointing to have that happen.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:03 PM
I am with you madridista, I do hope I wont happen, too much cliches will be so frustrating
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adelaide
February 23, 2015 at 2:03 PM
too twisted, it wont turn out that wat, eewwwww.
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shinayame
February 24, 2015 at 2:48 AM
They aren't blood related, anyway. Do Hyun's dad married Ri Jin's mom, but Ri Jin's mom had her with another guy. Ri Jin's mom is listed in the family registry as Do Hyun's mom because she married his dad, but his mom is his dad's mistress. So they have different parents.
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andina
February 24, 2015 at 3:04 AM
but wait in early ep 14 DH's mother say to grandma that he is CJP only bloodline, so they have confirmed that DH is CJP's only child. furthermore, what is it about grandma and grandpa internal problem? I think CJP is not grandpa child, but minseo is. Thats why RJ (and RO*) IS/ARE the heir/s,,,
*I'm still sure that RO-RJ are true twin siblings, to much similarity and telepathy (when RJ have bad dream ep 13, RO was startled in his sleep, asking to himself if RJ have a bad dream)...
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robin
February 24, 2015 at 8:35 AM
i was thinking along the same lines but the idea has a glaring flaw.. viz a DNA test, which a rich chaebol family would have definitely insisted on if some woman claiming to be pregnant with the heir's son turned up... or maybe kdrama isn't quite that logical?
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james94131
February 24, 2015 at 1:41 PM
But that was almost 30 years ago when Do Hyun was made a part of the Cha family registry. I don't think DNA tests were quite that popular or easy to use back then.
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danielle
February 27, 2015 at 7:36 AM
that's what I want to know. they've kissed about 3 times already... but they seem to have a parent in common. I need them to clear this up quickly.
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3 Nomnom
February 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM
A part of me wishes that it is Ri-on that was Min Seo-yeon's child not Ri-jin. It just seems so..coincidental! Ri-on is such a surprising character and the novel he is writing will take on an interesting turn. I would've loved to see how Ri-jin would've handled the situation as well!
Nevertheless, LOVE THIS DRAMA
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nil
February 23, 2015 at 9:29 AM
me too me too!! but my theory is that ORO and ORJ are really twins and separated a birth. yes, i watched too much drama. lol. but then, RO once said that if they were royalty in joseon era, one of them would be outcasted, and the other stayed in the palace.
but, maybe no. its to much makjang.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
There aren't any throw away lines in this show.
The separated at birth convo was on purpose and it was 20 mins into Ep 1. Odds are ORO and ORJ are those twins.
So MY afrain of the crazy rich people tossed her son off the sinking ship over to the lifeboat of RJ's eventual parents to keep him away from the lineage while MY raised the daughter for a while by herself in the States.
She gets called back to SK, moves into the horror mansion with the torture basement with her daughter, but dies in the car crash with her protector.
After her death evil sick bastard Dad abuses the daughter because he is bat sh^t crazy. Poor baby CDH has to witness this treatment so it makes him splinter under the shame of it. The fire brings the abused daughter's existence to light so they decide the safest thing is to reunite her wiht her real brother and the parents agree.
Mistress Mom holds them hostage with the info about what they did because if she spills it, the press would have a hay day.
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Imelda
February 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM
I like your scenerio.... fingers crossed.
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Mel
February 24, 2015 at 6:46 PM
I don't think it should be taken as a literal interpretation with twins. It might be referring to Do-hyun and Ri-jin where in a situation where there are two equally eligible heirs, one of them has to be removed - just like the way Ri-jin was a threat and was removed from the picture.
Also come on - two people bound together by fate separated during childhood - like twins - Do-Hyun and Ri-Jin.
But ok, might be reading too much into this :) But I do agree that it probably wasn't a meaningless offhand comment - the scriptwriters here are too good for that.
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4 Aidualc
February 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM
So are Se-Gi and Do-Hyun merging? And what about Mr X, is he still going to appear or have they dropped that alter ego?
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:05 AM
Yes, DH and SG are merging. It's shown in the fact that SG finally let DH know some of the memories when DH told him that he can handle his battle and thus,SG finally acknowleged him.
I believe that Mr. X is the "inner helper" personality and thus, he will make his appearance on the latter episodes before the end for he will be responsible for the "merging" of DH's personalities.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:27 PM
I am beginning to wonder if Mr. X might not be the amalgam of all of them, thus he won't show up till the end. Personally though I want him to be really dark and burn the bridges of that 'family'.
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5 Aria
February 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM
Thank again Saya!
When it comes to acting and intense parts,
This Episode is "THE BOMB!!!!!!!"
I have nothing to say but this episode is so powerful that it left me breathless..
DH and Oppa Ri On! Rescue her please! Use that skill oppa, 7th skill or anything just to make her safe! Thanks
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM
"Do-hyun can only prove to him that he can fight their bigger battles if he can fight Se-gi away first.When Se-gi cedes, it’s at once permission to remain, and acknowledgement of his ability to handle it — in other words, Do-hyun passes the test. And so, judging him finally ready to take on the pain of the past, Se-gi surrenders his memories to him."
I love this part that you said :)
Although I'm afraid that we might not see Se Gi anymore, I want Do Hyun to be finally healed and it hurts because it's a contrast and only one between the two will happen and it's strongly the latter part.
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bbeth
February 23, 2015 at 11:24 AM
I wonder if the healing really means that Se-gi will disappear completely.
As hinted by Ri-on, who can play his characters of mystery-writer-with-secret-wall and playful-silly-older-twin-brother at his will, wouldn't a healed Do-hyun wink at us, and then draw on his eyeliner to go off into the badass sunset with his leather jacket?? (Only to really really end with a wink and a kiss from the pink-lipglossed Yo-na? XDDDDDD)
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GN
February 23, 2015 at 1:03 PM
I'm hoping that Segi comes out one last time just to say goodbye to Ri Jin. Even if it's a short goodbye, I want to see them interact for the last time ><
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:24 PM
I loved the way Saya said that too. I don't really see it as Se Gi disappearing though. More like they are willing to collaborate and eventually use each other's strengths without each of them losing themselves. Best of both men.
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6 kw02
February 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM
How I love the inner conversation betwen Se Gi and Do Hyun... Rooting for a stronger Do Hyun... but at the same time, I hope he will embrace the carefree ways of Se Gi... and perhaps, the cheesiness as well? ^^
I worry for Ri Jin T-T Her being the actual one who was abused comes as a surprise for me. How is she going to take it when she knows her true identity, how her real mother died, and how she was abused by her biological father? With the love from her family and Do Hyun, I hope Ri Jin will overcome this crisis. Can't wait for the next episode.
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kw02
February 23, 2015 at 8:50 AM
Just read the previous comments =b Thank goodness the abuser is not Ri Jin's biological father. But still... nothing justifies child abuse.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM
So here's a question - who is Ri Jin's biological father and where the 'beep' is he!?
I need family trees!!
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7 pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM
I was so surprised by the sudden fourth wall break, but I loved the show's little wink to us, hehe. and also the reluctant/horrified Ri-on/Do-hyun bromance, complete with sharing clothes and stomping off in a huff because he (as Yo-na) gave Ri-on unspeakable girl cooties, hehe.
and can I just say how much I love the final struggle between Do-hyun and Se-gi? I fully understand that for Do-hyun to really come into his own, we have to let go of Se-gi as a separate personality, but the question of who's going to get to deal with this situation/who has the strength to do it now is a terrific cliffhanger.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM
Another thing I noted in one of my first comments on a KMHM recap is how unusual and lovely it is to have a hero who is a thoroughly decent person who behaves like one too.
While that essential goodness led a lot of people (including his own personalities! Look at how Se-gi and Yo-na talk about him) to dismiss Do-hyun as a weakling, it's actually the backbone that lets him stand up to the dirty deeds of the people he calls family, and I feel like that is a thing we're starting to see now, as the wall between his various selves starts to dissolve.
And we see that not only in the final struggle, but in other aspects of his personality that we're seeing more of now - his playfulness around Ri-jin and the way he teases her, for instance. Or the increasing confidence he has to face down his mother and grandmother. Those are not qualities that ep 1 Do-hyun demonstrated in quite the same measure - good job with character development there!
and big props to Ri-jin too. I know a lot of people disliked her shrieking, but I view that as an unnecessary directorial instruction since Hwang Jung-eum is an actress who's proven herself adept at both comedy and drama when given even the slightest of decent material to work with, and she brings it here. I love that Ri-jin is a three-dimensional person who lives a full life even apart from Do-hyun - her family goes a long way towards establishing that, and despite the odd screech, she's refreshingly normal for a kdrama romcom heroine. Yeah, she drinks too much and mortifies herself (been there, done that) but she also isn't afraid to declare that Do-hyun is her man. (or to kiss him back in the basement - not to mention the first time she told him to finish what he started, lol)
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM
WOW :)
I love everything you said :)
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 9:16 AM
Love your thoughts. DH is good and decent and , just like in real life, dismissed as weak. But he's not really. DH always is the one to stop SG from committing grievous crimes. When SG was about to kill Dr scottfield (seok ho phil?) DH came out. When he was about to kill his father, DH stopped him.
So he's weak but probably the strongest of them all.
And I so loved RJs "My Man, doon'th woorrry." dialog.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM
Exactly! He's a gentle soul, but one whose strength is rooted in that gentleness and decency. And he's gained more of it now that he doesn't feel quite as helpless against his alters any more.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:45 PM
I'm glad you pointed out the fact that hero is actually a decent human being for a change. I hadn't noticed but I appreciated it anyway. Although he doesn't have much choice with a firebrand, bomber, and saesang as his other personalities.
As for how they will get out of that cliffhanger (2 days still!!), I am hoping since the wall broke between him and Se Gi that possibly he may be able to ask for help from the others. Perry seems most like MacGyver to me so he could probably figure out something - hopefully not to explosive.
By the way - glad to see you found your body. Hope you can hang onto it over the next few weeks. ;)
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
February 24, 2015 at 6:50 AM
hehe I had no choice but to come back to life, it turns out ghost bodies and hands are not much good for getting the next episode streamed onto your computer ;)
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February 24, 2015 at 6:51 AM
and yeah, Se-gi and Yo-na behave badly enough for seven Do-hyuns!
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM
-- how unusual and lovely it is to have a hero who is a thoroughly decent person who behaves like one too --
so agree here pogo, we love them because they are like human, just ordinary people, with flaws, thoughts, problems, habits as a normal human being, not somekind of prince or cinderella from fairytale land far far away that sometimes doesnt make sense at all in reality tho I dont hate that kind of drama...LOL
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February 24, 2015 at 7:03 AM
oh I like a good asshole chaebol myself depending on character and performance. But it's just such a refreshing change to get this sweet puppy of a Do-hyun who is no less hot for being so nice.
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Madkdr
February 23, 2015 at 5:56 PM
With regard to RiJin - my teenage daughter just started watching and she totally related to the shrieking Ri Jin.
"Mom!! that would so totally be my reaction if someone said Segi's lines to me!! Goosebumps and nails on chalkboard reaction! Serious!"
That's what she said.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 6:41 PM
I know. I think that is when I fell in love with her character.
And poor SG seriously delivering those lines from his heart, poor thing.
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jademwong
February 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM
+1000000 everything you said!
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Cocoboo
February 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM
I love your whole commentary, pogo! :D
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Arhazivory
February 23, 2015 at 9:28 AM
I was surprised and delighted when they broke the fourth wall. It made me feel special, like I really entered their role for a moment. If this show had gone full on melo, we'd be a mess of tears but it still strikes the balance so very well.
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Arhazivory
February 23, 2015 at 9:29 AM
*their world* Heh.
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM
haha.,me too :) I loved that part and felt like I'm one of the cast members that time
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8 aoisakura
February 23, 2015 at 8:44 AM
Arigato Saya! Yeyyyy Off to read now..
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9 TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM
I really like how Ri-Jin subtly let's her family know that she knows she adopted. Sort of a "I'm strong enough to remember, I'm grateful, I love you and we're still family'' kind of feel.
I loved Ri-On's and Do Hyun's interactions- the series has a good balance of serious and hilarious. Ear tugging, head slapping dads are a win in a heavy situation.
Se-gi's last stand..sad(only because I wanted to see the character once more) but it needs to happen for CDH to become whole and to me Shin Segi is the dominant personality and if they merge- its only a matter of time for the others.
Though am I the only one who though YoSub(the suicidal one) had come out when CDH was in the winecellar? But when he started talking I was a bit surprised and glad because it means he is becoming stronger and able to handle distressing situations better.
Come on Wednesday!
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM
I think the writer will still let us see Se Gi for the last goodbye chingu :)
Sort of a decent final goodbye.
huhu..coz it'll be a heartbreak for us if not
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 11:11 AM
God, I hope so.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:56 PM
+ 1
please help us God
LOL
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aoisakura
February 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM
Crossing my fingers and big toes! Pretty Puhleeeaasse ??
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shahera5
February 23, 2015 at 8:03 PM
I am hopeful that Se Gi will lend CDH his martial arts moves and he can beat the crap out of those kidnappers.
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10 ngekdrama
February 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM
ehhh im confused ! if ri jin and dohyun are half siblings?? are they??then what about my OTP ?! OTP cant be siblings,no? questions questions
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM
haha..no worries chingu :)
they are not siblings..
Please refer to comment no.2 and the responses to it for the clarifications :)
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11 reynie87
February 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM
Will Se Gi vanish, like forever???
now that Do Hyun 'merged' with Se Gi, does it mean that Do Hyun only remembers Se Gi's memories, or will he actually 'absorbs' Se Gi's personality as well? if it is, then it will be AWESOME!
wednesday, plz come FAST!
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 10:00 AM
I don´t want him to! then I will go to a witch with a chrystal ball and ask to bring him back in some form, even if it is a talking tea kettle like in Beauty and the beast.
I don´t want to let any of the alters go, and even more so because FERRY STILL DOESNT HAVE A BOAT.
and at the very end, I want to see Ri Jin, Granny and Do Hyun dance Macarena together. Show, you know, right? You always do what we ask? You are our Edward Scissorhands, right? Because we ask this. Please?
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 5:37 PM
LOL! Pls send the Ajushii to Aruba. I miss Perry Park already. When is he coming out to play. (●°u°●) 」
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redfox
February 24, 2015 at 1:02 PM
yes, he should go to Aruba, definitely. they should all wake up on Aruba at some point. Kidnap both families and have a blast.... no, no, I do not mean blow them all up. party.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM
Even though Segi would be missed, but I think a part of Do Hyun will always protect Rijin. In extreme case, we may see Segi again. Remember the last few episode about Segi's heartfelt confession? He don't mind to be a shadow of Do Hyun as long as he gets to stay with rijin. (IMO, isn't it the same confession to Segi after DH kissed Rijin ?)
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12 aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM
Awwww! That bromance! so cute! I loved how the father kept interrupting their intense converstion with murers of melodrama.
And that ending was awesome! so perfect! And it also took me by surprise.
My only worry is, was it too soon?
I thought that DH will merge with his other personalities first and leave SG for last, since SG is the strongest.
I will miss SG a lot. While I love seeing DH with SG's style and courage, I liked SGs childishness as well.
We won't be getting rap battles and dramatic chair action anymore :(
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robin
February 24, 2015 at 8:38 AM
I guess it makes sense for Segi to be absorbed first, because it was the alter he interacted with first and came to understand the first.
But can I still take a moment to cry for Se Gi's loss? I can't believe we won't get to see him again *cries*
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13 redfox
February 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM
I felt so giddy this episode that I could only watch it 2 and a half minutes at a time. I had to pause and just squeal silently, then continue. otherwise, stuff would have happened. I loved the moments where the absurd mismatched details got explained.
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BlueSky
February 23, 2015 at 9:31 AM
You're not the only one. I was palpitating during the last quarter of the Episode and I was crying my heart out and still couldn't relax myself minutes after the Episode ended. That was so powerful and intense episode that I've never expected.
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IncognitoIris
February 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM
I swear! The feels..soo good. Glad to know I'm not the only one. I was so dazed after the episode ended, like I know what just happened before me but it happened so smoothly that it left me in awe. With my mouth gaping and unshed tears pooling.
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14 Arhazivory
February 23, 2015 at 9:26 AM
Goodbye Se-Gi. :(
That last scene left me shaking...literally. That was so powerful. I watched it twice but couldn't go a third time because it was so emotionally jarring. Wow.....can't even find the best word to describe it.
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM
Yes. Powerful! Exactly the word I was looking for to describe that last scene.
It was one of the best emotional drama experiences I've had in a long time.
I don't think any drama will come close to this one.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM
I got all choked up reading Saya's lovely tribute:
His edge of wildness took him to really interesting (and hilarious) places as a character, especially since he could do things Do-hyun couldn’t, unrestrained by manners, obligation or social convention...But while I will miss his madness.
This reinforces my feelings towards him as Peter Pan. SG is the man-boy who will never grow up, but remain forever the innocent pure strength that held DH together all those years.
While am also heartbroken to see him disappear into CDH, I am excited to see a CDH who WILL wear guyliner and ROCK IT on his wild nights out with RJ and RO.
Seriously, the whole SG concept is one I wil always treasure and am so happy we go to see someone like JiSung bring him to life. Imma go cry now.
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IncognitoIris
February 23, 2015 at 11:06 AM
Aw. Me too. You put my thoughts into words. Its going to take a while to get used to a Segi-less world *sniff* , but I'm going to find comfort in the fact that Dohyun+Segi= dynamic combo! Can't wait for wednesday to be here already.
Though I do fervently hope that the show gives us a chance to say a proper farewell to Segi. You owe that much to (the forever-innocent-wild-cute-slightly mad-guyliner rocking-RiJin loving-Kijoon hating-monkey loving-smexy pouting) Segi, Show!
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM
"Kijoon hating-money loving"
I swear to god that is the funniest thing I have read all month, and IT'S TRUE!
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:52 PM
LOL - what a perfect description! Ha!
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robin
February 24, 2015 at 8:43 AM
haha what a title XD i hope cha do hyun puts on some guyliner once in a while to pay tribute to his memory. argh i'm gonna miss se gi he was the coolest lead boohoo ;_;
ri jin's three guys are being reduced in numbers way too, the tarot card reader wasn't right for long
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 11:07 AM
"...remain forever the innocent pure strength that held DH together all those years."
Now you've made me cry again!!!!
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 12:20 PM
isnt it weird though, cause I mean, it is still Ji Sung. he is still the same. but we are having withdrawal symptoms from one of the characters. we shouldnt have to but...
I think I would like for the mirror-conversations between Se Gi and Do Hyun to remain somehow, like a chat with one of his inner selves to assure each other they are doing ok. maybe that would ease the withdrawal.
I wonder what Ji Sung is going to feel after the drama. which alter is he going to miss the most?
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Arhazivory
February 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM
I agree with all everyone has said. I'm going to miss Se Gi a lot and I'll have to rewatch his scenes. I have conversations with myself so Cha Do Hyun can still talk to Se Gi at least.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 2:50 PM
I want the low voice to be CDH's voice of choice, too!
lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:57 PM
yep jomo I want that sexy manly voice too
aoisakura
February 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM
I would bet my bottom dollar Ji Sung will miss Ahn Yo-Na the most ?
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM
LOL...I believe so Aoi, he's so girly as Yo Na
jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 5:07 PM
So maybe he and BY'll get a little baby girl to spoil rotten like Yo-na!
Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM
LOL at the above comments! I can't to wait to know how LBY and JS's baby will turn out. IM going to miss Yona a lot. She is just so sassy and cute.
redfox
February 24, 2015 at 1:03 PM
I think we´ll still be seeing Yo Na a lot in CF´s
15 BlueSky
February 23, 2015 at 9:26 AM
Thank you for the recap Saya!
The part that struck me the most aside from the merging of SG and DH is the part where DH found out that "The Child at the Basement" was RJ all along.
I was crying with him especially during the part where he remembered that little Do-hyun promises to come back, every night at ten. The promised time, that SG never forgot and still what he told RJ during their first encounter. I confess that I found that line so cheesy during the first Episode but I never thought that it was a significant part in the story. Bravo writer-nim!
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM
Same here!!! I felt like the 10pm thing is a running gag in this drama.
Little Do Hyun and Little Rijin meet at 10pm.
Segi and Rijin confessed he fell in love with her at 10pm.
Do Hyun and Rijin had their first consultation at 10pm. HAHAHA! Omg
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Purva Huilgol
February 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Also, AFAIK, the show itself airs at 10 pm (9:55 PM, KST to be precise), so we've got some more meta here!
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February 23, 2015 at 10:27 AM
...oooh, good point!
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 1:54 PM
Wow - what a cool thread thru the story. Makes me wonder if I've missed others.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 5:46 PM
LOL!! Yes! GAH! So how many 10pm I would think of KMHM in the future? (╥﹏╥)
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 8:09 PM
the conclusion is 10 PM = CDY = SSG = KMHM = playing time ----- Bingo!!!!
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 10:14 AM
me too :)
And I feel that as the shows continues, there will still be moments that will be related to 10pm. Anyway, I like it :) another first from this drama, makes me remember it everytime I hear 10pm and will still do even if it ends..
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 5:51 PM
Yes!!! It made the 10pm their thing already. ಥ_ಥ I don't know when I can watch a drama that they can have "their thing" again. I can't wait for new epsiode to air but I don't want it to end. (´･_･`)
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 6:54 PM
yezzz beebeeshing, such a contradiction, I dont want it to end, but cant hardly wait for the new episodes too..LOL, been there done that.....aaaaaargh...jinjaaaa (SG style)
16 Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 9:26 AM
Yay! Managed to read Saya's recap in lighting speed.
I totally agree with Saya. I will miss Segi's existence a lot because he is the wildest but the most vulnerable personality. I can feel his pain for wanting to live because he sort of know his existence will be ceased very soon.
I always wondered why Segi / Do Hyun's sub conscious always listen to Rijin's order. And now I know why. His guilt is his motivation to stay with Rijin because he could not do that the last time. I thought some cheesy mechanisms at first. :')
And what can I say about theories. PPL WHO ACTUALLY COMMENTED ABOUT THE WHIPPING THEORY ARE SUPER AWESOME. I didn't see it coming until someone mention it. Good job!! I learnt a lot in this theory. I always thought both Rijin and Do Hyun were abused but I GUESS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A GOOD TWIST. I can't say it is awesome because abuse is not even something to be happy about.
I love Rion even more in this episode. that scene- Rion and Do Hyun were jealous of each other's placement. Even though it executed in a comedic way, but it clearly shows how much they wanted to switch places.
Cha Grandma is clearly hiding something. She could be the car and fire accident mastermind. OMG. I hope Joon Pyo is not grandpa's son and Min Seo is. (Pray hard that this part of my theory is correct) then no matter what, my ship will never sink.
Things that made me wonder in this epsiode:
1. Now Do Hyun remember his past, this means that he know Rijin is Min Seo's daughter. On paper, they are actually half siblings. What we know is Min Seo's daughter is not Joon Pyo. So who could it be? I really hate to recognize too twisted family ties (Min Seo and Grandpa is having affair). Plus I don't think OTP should settle their "on the paper" relationship like that. They could never get married and it sounds damn wrong in Korean's culture. I wonder does Writer nim have the time to correct this for our OTP? (DRAMA GOD PLS LISTEN TO THIS PRAYER)
2. Rion says he is a bad friend for Do Hyun. It could also means that he can be his love rival but does it also equals to he could be the true heir too?
3. Doctor chipmunk is too close to Oh Family. (anyone realise that?). I wonder if he is the physican for Rijin when she is younger? Plus it is obvious that he does favoured Rijin, making her his disciple.
4. Rijin said that Oh mum treats both Rijin and Rion equally. It made an impression for me. Could it be both Rijin and Rion were adopted and Oh parents actually know it and so switching theory could actually happen? ?
5. Joon Pyo saved Do Hyun instead of Rijin. What is the true reason? I mean last episode we know that Joon Pyo really loved Min Seo. So, how could he not save Rijin too? Judging Segi's reaction, it is implied that Jp decided to save only DH. Or all this while DH is MS's son and RJ is his daughter. So he don't want to hurt Min Seo's child and hit his own instead?
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 9:36 AM
Hi chingu :)
Love your insights!
Regarding no.5, I just thought that what if during that fire, when CJP was about to save RJ and DH, he found out that RJ was nowhere to be found (already rescued by the OH's) so he decided to save DH alone.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:15 PM
Hi Chingu!!!
It could happen too! (^O^)／ I hope your theory is correct. To be honest, Jp seemed like a nice man (except that he is also crazy too). RAWR. I don't know. I guess we only can wait for the 6 episodes to show us what really happened in the fire. ಥ_ಥ
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February 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM
Rion says he is a bad friend for Do Hyun. It could also means that he can be his love rival but does it also equals to he could be the true heir too?
I took that to mean, 'I can't be a true friend to you because I am jealous of you and my sister and have been investigating you for years but I reluctantly like and respect you as a person'.
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM
yes, I think that is it, and I wish they became like brothers. cause despite having grown up together with Ri Jin, Ri On, as a writer, as someone secretly in love, as a person who spends most his time with made-up characters, there is this strange lonelyness in him. and Do Hyun, I am sure he will be a little lonely after merging with all his alters. so it would be good to have even a bad friend.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 7:56 PM
RAWR! I don't know what to think already. Part of me wanted this but another part of me don't want this.
If this really happened, Rion will never get to reconcile with his feelings. I know it's weird but he needs a outlet to release his feelings else he could not move on. ಥ_ಥ
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fantasy
February 23, 2015 at 9:44 AM
It bothers me too, that they are half siblings, may not be in reality but on paper as u said... I hope writer will come up with a satisfactory explanation and solution :)
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:18 PM
yes!!! we still have approximately 6~8 hours to go for this drama!!! I hope writer nim would tie up this HUGE loose end!
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shinayame
February 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM
Regarding no. 5, Ri Jin wasn't his kid, and clearly, as the flashbacks show, he only used her as blackmail to get his son to behave, so he obviously didn't think of her as a person, probably more so because the woman he loved had her with someone else. She had no value for him especially after her mom died. So maybe when he saved Do Hyun, he didn't even think about her. She didn't register as someone to be saved.
My theory is, she somehow made it out on her own (maybe by following Joon Pyo the way he went out) and the Ohs, who were there for the party for whatever reason, found her and took her away. No one knew about her and those who did were probably glad she wasn't around any more.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:20 PM
I do agree with you about the oh family in the tea party cause deep in my heart, I think it's Papa Oh and Mama oh who saved Rijin. They would be the missing staff in the tea party.
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shinayame
February 24, 2015 at 2:51 AM
Yeah, they could, I didn't think about that!
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kellibean
February 23, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Re-#5
Have you ever read Wuthering Heights? Heathcliff was obsessed with and "loved" catherine, but HATED her daughter (because catherine died in childbirth) However, he kept her close and forced her to marry his weak son and had her live as a virtual prisoner. It was really twisted. I think it is a similar type thing in this story.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 2:00 PM
Good observation. That story really creeped me out. It still gives me shivers thinking about it.
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kellibean
February 23, 2015 at 2:53 PM
Me too! I read it after constantly hearing it being referred to as "so romantic." As I read it, I was all "WTH are ppl talking about?" It is so creepy.
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM
RAWR! Wuthering Heights is also the reference for Secret. (I CAN FEEL THE CONNECTION
♪───Ｏ（≧∇≦）Ｏ────♪) nope I didn't read the book.
But yeah you are right, it could really happened like that since JP did love MS and unfortunately for him, MS didn't. THIS IS GIVING ME GOOSEBUMPS AGAIN. And I agree with you. it is not romantic at all because it force the innocent one to be dragged into the whole situation. ಠ_ಠ
starsy
February 23, 2015 at 6:09 PM
Hello Beebeeshing..
Regarding #1, Do Hyun is indeed Cha Jun Pyo's son (as the information that we have so far) both on paper and biologically. Ri Jin-wise, while MSY is on the family register, there's no inkling so far that Ri Jin is on the register at all. The reason why they had to hide her is maybe because she doesn't exist as per the official family register. Ri Jin is probably registered under the Oh family, so if you're worried of the "on the paper relationship", don't be :)
They're hunting her down now because she is the only one who can threaten Seungjin group as Grandpa Cha handed the company over to MSY. So naturally her next-in-line i.e. Ri Jin (if she is indeed MSY's daughter) would inherit Seungjin.
Probably that's why Do Hyun's mum went nuts when she found out that Ri Jin is MSY's daughter. There's a chance for the company to fall into her hands instead of Do Hyun. But seriously, why does she want the company to belong to Do Hyun so badly? For recognition/acknowlegement?
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 8:09 PM
Yes Starsy!
Zomg!! This!! My brain suddenly go ? PHEW. ε-(´∀｀; ) huge relief but even if so, on paper MS's daughter and son would be RJ and DH and RJ is adopted by Oh Mum. There is still some linkage which I don't find it quite morally right. RAWR. This is the most confusing family tree ever.
As for Dh's Mum, to be honest, I share the same thoughts as you. I seriously think she have some serious obsession with Seungjin group. Like she wants to be the heiress of Seungjin group whether with power or not. She don't even mind to remove Jp which she claim to love for his son to sit as president. what if plot twist: she is actually the real heiress and illegitimate. LOL. (LOL SO ALL THE THEORIES ABT THE HEIR IS TOTALLY WRONG IN THIS CASE? ◉‿◉）
Or maybe she just want to live well now because of her bad past?
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17 lc
February 23, 2015 at 9:30 AM
Segi is borne out of Do Hyun's rage and guilt suffered over his father's abuse of Rijin. And because only he holds all the suppressed painful memories, you could say that he was also borne out of Do Hyun's desire to protect Rijin.
That Do Hyun dared to castigate his mother and grandmother for what happened in the basement is a step towards assimilating the alter Segi back into his own personality, since the suppressed rage he felt since young no longer had to be compartmentalised and expressed by his alter Segi.
But I think, and hope that we haven't seen the last of Segi, because the key to releasing him from the burden of pain and guilt he bears is Rijin herself. Maybe her forgiveness for what happened to her or her assurance to Segi that it's not his fault?
Call it wishful thinking on my behalf, but I really wish to see Segi leave a happy man, even though he is an alter....
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IncognitoIris
February 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM
I agree with you 100%. Though Segi is one of Dohyun's alters and I do wish for Dohyun to heal, its just over the course of the show we've seen into Segi and discovered his motivations and felt his emotions right with him. Though he is a fragmented part of Dohyun's personality, at times he feels whole. A man with a simple mission - To exist. And that fear of his of just ceasing to exist is so relatable that I can't help but root for him.
I believe the show owes it to Segi to give him a proper goodbye. One where we can let him leave feeling content that he has been freed from the crushing pain that his guilt brought on and he has finally attained peace.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM
I like your last sentence, and will use it as a comfort when we have to say good-bye to the series.
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 11:15 AM
I think maybe SG did? Because he had to "share" his memories with DH, right? He wouldn't have if he didn't accept his merging with DH.
This might be just me making myself feel better, but it wasn't just DH's past trauma that DH remembered. He also remembered his recent actions, the kiss with RJ, the conversation with Evil Grandma. So maybe that was SGs way of saying, ok, fine, I'm you, and you're me.
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lc
February 23, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Maybe so, but i really want him to have a proper send off. After all that he's shown us of himself and his struggles it seems incomplete to know that he'll only exist as a mind voice in Do Hyun's head from now on. ?
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18 m92
February 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM
i found that do hyun not only got merge with se gi personality, but he also got playfulness of perry park and sassiness of ahn yona.... he is becoming more like them. Thus, his character become more interesting and awesome like Ri Jin said. Do Hyun become more outspoken about what he feel actually, confessing to Ri Jin like Se Gi, like to tease Ri Jin like Ahn Yona play push and pull with Ri On.
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February 23, 2015 at 9:43 AM
yes, it's not just Se-gi he's starting to merge with, it's also the light-hearted side of him which was compartmentalised/concentrated into Yo-na and Perry.
I love Do-hyun in teasing mode!
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Oh, this is a good point! Now that I think about it, DH teasing RJ was out of character for DH. So it was probably the PP part of him.
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19 nil
February 23, 2015 at 9:42 AM
plot twist: CDH and ORJ are actually personalities of Orion.
orion is the one with DID and the whole story is only happened in his head (him being writer and so)
dengdengdengdeeeenggggg
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 10:16 AM
OH NO!
Then it'll be It's Okay, It's Love plot..hahahaha..lol
dengdengdengdeeeennng
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20 TeaCharmer
February 23, 2015 at 9:43 AM
I know the upcoming episodes will tell us, but do you think one of the kids started the fire? Or maybe RiO/ RiJin's parents(specifically the mom)? They have a restaurant, she may have been employed there as a cook. She was friends with CDH's family register mom- which is why she has RiJin right? They haven't gone deep into that and I can't wait which is why I'm needlessly speculating instead of finishing my laundry...sigh.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 2:04 PM
That is another good theory. I thought I had a lot but after reading today I've added at least 3 more. I now refuse to speculate any more. I will just grit my teeth and wait till the next episode - while ignoring my laundry also.
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knewbie
February 23, 2015 at 9:16 PM
I won't speculate on who started the fire (someone on another thread thought it might be crazy Cha Jun Pyo himself), but I think either Mr or Mrs Oh might be the catering employee that Secretary Ahn mentioned had witnessed the fire. Assuming that Mrs Oh was Min Su Yeon's friend a while before the fire, it's possible that either she or her husband had plotted to sneak in to rescue her friend's child.
And I don't know why I'm needlessly speculating instead of doing some work. Just one and a half more days!
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21 Purva Huilgol
February 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM
Thanks for the awesome recap, Saya!!
Wow, was this episode heavy or what. The fina struggle between Se-gi and Do-hyun was so difficult to watch.... one hand, I wanted SSG to come out and beat those goons to rescue ORJ, but I also wanted CDH to fight those battles(inner and outer) as himself.
Since CDH was shown almost-fainting at the end of this one, does this mean we could see a new personality? maybe Mr. X?
However, I can't help but think that just like SSG, all those personalities are going to "lose" to CDH later. Boy, am I going to miss Perry, Yo-na and even Yo-sub!!
However, I hope it is CDH who rescues ORJ and then ORO follows with his police buddies as back-up.
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Purva Huilgol
February 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM
*final
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22 Emma
February 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM
This drama is just plain amazing.
I only hope it doesn't go makjang too much...
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23 Cyril
February 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM
Wow!!! Just wow!!! :)
This episode is like one heck of a rollercoaster ride when you don't even know that you're riding on one and then, BA'AM!!! You're heart and soul left you're body and now, you're still searching for them.
Anyway, I liked the line of Dad Oh,
"They were filming melodrama the whole day."
haha..that cracked me up and I never knew that the drama was hinting about the big phenomenal intense ending! I should have known that all along.
Can we have DH as a member of the OH family pleaaaaasseee!!! I love all of those moments especially because he never experienced that kind of warmth and love coming from a God-knows-what-family-of-monsters.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 6:33 PM
LOL..me too..me too..that Daddy Oh scenes are my favorites for this episode, that melodrama thing, bwahahaahaha, I cant stop laughing even only just imagining it
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bbeth
February 24, 2015 at 9:08 AM
Lol that was some deft handling of swinging from melodrama to family comedy !! & dad's comment so meta too!
Do-hyun's there all serious and the lighting and music builds, then Dad pops up and crashes the melo! XD ~ what an awesome family <3
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24 darksoul
February 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
ok after reading many theories..here is what i think!
Joon Pyo is actually not the son of chairman but only the chairwoman's...so that makes him and his son CDH not the rightful heir of Seungjing group.This also explains why Chairman did not favour of Joon Pyo
Oh ri jin is probably Min se yeon and chairman's daughter...so that makes her the true heiress...thats y chairwoman n CDH'S MOM are so hell bent on finding her and also the reason why Joon Pyo abused her as he cud not stand the sight of her!
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM
Every time someone mentions that someone other than evil Gramma had sex with the GIANT FACE that is the grandpa, I throw up a little in my mouth.
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 11:05 AM
LOL :D
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beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 8:30 PM
LOL SAME HERE. I choked at Jomo's comment too.
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knewbie
February 23, 2015 at 9:20 PM
"Giant Face" is absolutely right... But I'm more inclined to agree with @Kelli at 2.1.1.3.3 (what a complex thread this is!) that the grandfather was essentially benign and had tried to protect his daughter-in-law from his own crazy son.
25 jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Oh Saya, what a nice recap you made me cry reading.
I love that you love the show so much you don't want to hurt it by analyzing it.
I watched it. Put it aside. Did house things. Sighed and cried.
After about 12 hours I watched it again expecting to be less moved by it, but I cried more. Geeze, Ji Sung. I love him.
I feel lucky to be someone who got "caught" by this production and who saw more potential than flaws. Sortuv how I felt about Secret with JS and HJE. That was also a wild ride that took over my heart rather despite my brain.
And the kiss -so much to it! Loved how they keep going back to this intimate moments between them, but each time it adds another layer to the story. It doesn't feel tacked on for fanservice, but another way to learn about who they people are.
SIGH
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aoiaheen
February 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM
I started watching Kim Soo Ro when I'm not rewatching KMHM. I've so totally fallen in love with Ji Sung.
He's amazing in that as well. I just love his gravitas and how he can pull of the emotional scenes adn the comedic ones with equal skill.
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LeoPop
February 24, 2015 at 3:51 PM
I so agree with you! I'm also watching Kim Soo Ro and Ji Sung is so cute and a wonderful actor there too.
I've watched Secret in 2013 and since then I've become a huge fan of his. I want to see more dramas that he did, but this KMHL is so powerful at all levels, that I find it hard to find a drama so good, or even better than this one!
JI SUNG ROCKS!!!!
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 4:50 PM
So true :)
Just when I thought some scenes were made just for fanservice, I was always proven wrong later because they are always connected to and are important parts of the plot and character development especially with the leads.
I will forever be grateful for having been able to watch this awesome drama :)
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:57 PM
luv all your words Aria, I will forever be grateful too, even before the production team found this awesome couples as the leads, I already made up my mind to watch this awesome drama because its interesting and never before plot ^__^
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26 K-D Lover
February 23, 2015 at 11:10 AM
OMG!!!
Thank you so much for recalling this a lot quicker, especially when it comes to gettng to recap this awesome episode... I can't wait till episode 15!!! :D
This show always manages to stop at the exact moment when you really want to know more.. Who will be the person that comes out of Do-Hyun, and will he be able to rescue Ri-Jin???? The suspense!!!!!
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27 Trina
February 23, 2015 at 11:24 AM
Thsnk you Saya for the recap of episode 15. I hope we see Segi one more time so we all can say to final goodbye. I will miss Segi. As for RJ, I wonder how she feel when everything comes out. I want to know how she deal with it. Don't forget she have a biopolar personality. I still do not like Dr. Chipmunk and hope he tell CDH that he told his evil grandmother the truth. I am looking forward to Ep 15 and hope that RJ is rescue.
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28 mia
February 23, 2015 at 11:31 AM
that was an awesome episode! thank you!
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29 ramona
February 23, 2015 at 11:37 AM
Can we talk about Ji Sung's acting for a while?? The last scene, omg i was having goosebumps all over.. He is just sooo good that it's out of this world!! Hats off to you mr Ji Sung.
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IncognitoIris
February 23, 2015 at 12:06 PM
Oh yes! Yes we can. Because it would be an atrocity not to mention the kind of havoc (the Iwantmoaar kind) that Jisung's acting wrecks on our emotions. That too just through HIS EYES! I don't think I will ever get tired of saying this, Jisung, your performance is one of a kind; Insanely truthful, intensely beautiful and so effortless in making fantasy a reality with the magnetic pull that will take wherever you want to take me.
That last scene was so riveting and packed with emotion. Add that to Jisung's look. It leaves you breathless. But never before have I been this exhilarated to be robbed of breath.
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Adal
February 23, 2015 at 9:44 PM
+1
I literally had goosebumps watching Ji Sung acting the final scenes of this episode I was like "dang, but this guy is good !
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30 bbeth
February 23, 2015 at 11:42 AM
When I was watching & slowing understanding what they were revealing about the children in the basement 20 years ago - i was like --
NOOOOO they Harry Potter'ed Ri-jin! She was the unwanted child (unwanted by Joon-pyo) and they stuck her in a crappy place because they had to take care of her, but didn't want to really take care of her!
I do wonder how she got out, what happened with the fire, how Mom knows that she was Min Seo-yeon's child...
But it also explains Yo-sub's suicidal tendencies. Yo-sub/Yo-na aren't opposites.... Yo-sub who wants to die and escape from his guilt is opposite to Se-gi who wants to live and make retributions!
Yo-na who deals with stress and is very vocal about "oppas" and "people she likes" "people who talk too much" is opposite for Do-hyun who doesn't share any of these verbalizations; he just holds in it and apologizes and cleans up.
Then.... Nana who is trapped and Perry Park who yearns for leisure/freedom are opposites too...???
I love how this drama makes me try and fit the puzzles pieces they've given us. It makes me watch more attentively. ESPECIALLY with the fakeout of the "false" memory Do-hyun had. It wasn't he who said "don't go, play with me" as he first recalled...it had been Ri-jin. What a great red-herring!
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Catali7
February 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM
They Harry Potter'd Ri Jin!! Lmao! What an appropriate and apt description! Damn Dursleys.... Ehrm, I mean, Cha's.
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM
haha..and to think Yo Seob looks like HP, I think that the writer really has a part of him that he is a kid at heart. With all the Disney references like Cinderella Carriage Kiss, Beauty and the Beast, Seven alters (like Snow Shite and the 7 Dwarves) and Harry Potter and many more..
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Catali7
February 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM
Yo seob DOES look like HP!!!
And you're right-the writer definitely likes his or her fairy tales, to be sure.
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31 redfox
February 23, 2015 at 12:12 PM
we all know Ji Sung can do dramatic scenes, but I seriously want him and Hwang Jung Eum to star together in a wacky detective comedy a la Agent 86 next.
cause their comedic KICK is UN BE LIE VA BLE.
they are like a comedic version of Mulder and Scully
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LeoPop
February 24, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Yeah! This couple works in perfection.
I just hope the directors see that and give them more roles to play together in the future, in the NEAR future, as this drama is unfortunately almost ending.... Why the good dramas are so short, damn it?! (like in Secret, a mere 16 episodes, intense but soooo short!!)
This couple is either good in comedy or in drama, only because these two actors are brilliant/amazing, as they can make us cry as well as laugh... You two deserve ALL the awards!
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32 pyromaniac
February 23, 2015 at 12:14 PM
this is freaking me out. so if CDH and ORJ are somewhat related, is it ok they kissed?
I was thinking ORO was the other child who has interests in the company. maybe he does.. and ORJ was held hostage..
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM
they are not related.
read previous recaps´ comments please. there is a very, extremely thorough discussion and arguments in them
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33 sonia
February 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM
Amazing drama, ji sung acting are no joke the last part gave me goosebumps wonderful actor love the drama so much.
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34 Catali7
February 23, 2015 at 12:51 PM
*hem hem*
*takes deep breath*
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
*shatters windows*
*frightens canines and small children*
*carted off to mental institution, babbling happily*
THIS. SHOW.
THIS. SHOW. KILLS ME. AND.... WAIIIIT FORR ITTTTTTT! HEALS ME. ALL AT ONCE!
Do Hyun stepping up and fighting off Se Gi was such a fabulous moment for the two. Even though I myself began screaming, "Se Gi! Where are you? SE GI!!" In the hopes that he would appear and take over the fight with the baddies, I knew that if he did so, Do Hyun would be back to square one, and all the efforts he had made to take charge of his memories and past would've been wasted.
And when Se Gi realizes Do Hyun really does WANT to fight this fight on his own, he respects him for it and down comes the Jericho wall in their heads and the concealed memories are revealed. I am so glad that Do Hyun is able to see Se Gi as I've always seen him: as a damaged little boy with a heart of gold that would love nothing more than to hand over the pain that makes up his existence... If only he could trust Do Hyun to take it. So this scene is monumental in that way, because it's Se Gi finally giving in and trusting that Do Hyun will pick up all the slack that he has had to hold by himself all this time.
But now I'm nervousness and apprehensive of how Do Hyun is going to behave towards Ri Jin now that he knows she was the child abused in place of him... I'm sure he's going to let her go romantically because he feels that he could never deserve her, but I hope it doesn't last too long. They are so wonderful together.
And Ri Jin finding out her past... This is gonna be seven kinds of ugly and painful. All those repressed memories she's managed to hide from for so long are sure to be brought to the forefront of her mind, and she won't be able to hide from them any longer. That confrontation is gonna be painful.
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Catali7
February 23, 2015 at 12:59 PM
*** But now I'm nervous and apprehensive as to how Do Hyun...*** damn autocorrect.
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Arhazivory
February 23, 2015 at 2:35 PM
I'm also worried about how he will treat her. But I'm trusting in the Se Gi aspect of him that didn't push Ri Jin away (noble idiocy style) but instead wanted to keep her close.
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Catali7
February 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM
We can only hope.
But The cornerstone of Do Hyun's personality is feeling responsible, which is why his EVIL father was able to abuse him by hurting someone else in his stead... Hopefully Se Gi will convince him that the best way to keep her safe is by remaining by her side to do so...
Oh how I do sooooo hate noble idiocy.
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35 kellibean
February 23, 2015 at 12:57 PM
Okay, I am gonna go out on a limb here and say I think that ORJ parents might know exactly who CDH is. At least, I think the dad might......Also, I am thinking that mr. x is the amalgamation of all the personalities. I would like it if he were another personality. I guess we shall see. I am so excited to see how things shake out. And for the ppl who worry that ORJ and CDH are related....don't. They aren't. No way.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:36 PM
-- Also, I am thinking that mr. x is the amalgamation of all the personalities --
me so agree and yes no way they are related, period
LOL
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36 namedx
February 23, 2015 at 1:43 PM
Love this show!!! <3 <3 <3
Many thanks for recapping, Saya! x
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37 toodles
February 23, 2015 at 1:56 PM
There are so many questions left to be answered!!
Did Jun Pyo abuse his wives or just Ri Jin? If he abused Min Seo, it could have caused her to run away, meet someone else and have a child.
Is he completely unbalanced which caused his father to track down Min Seo and bring her back (with Ri Jin) to run the company?
What was his role in the car crash and the fire? Did he try to burn down the house to kill himself and bury his secrets in the basement. I don't think he saved anyone.
How long was Ri Jin kept in the basement?
How could Granny condone this cuz she must have known she was in the basement.
But the biggest question in my mind is: Why does Perry make bombs??!! How very random!
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 2:03 PM
why Perry makes bombs? maybe someone tried to build a bomb in that basement from a rice cooker and that set the fire?
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 2:13 PM
Good question - maybe he wants to blow up all his boundaries (family, having to share a body) and live a life of ease fishing. Or maybe he just likes the 'boom'.
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toodles
February 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM
Maybe all of the above. Perhaps an actual explosion occurred whether intentional or not and started the fire. Its a bit of a stretch to think that somehow the kids built a bomb but never the less something exploded.
The explosion is a metaphor for the fracturing of Do Hyun's personality.
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38 wildfly
February 23, 2015 at 2:00 PM
there is such a thing as 'too good'. this episode ending, it's like i was hit in the solar plexus. how will i watch
other dramas now, i ask?
it will be like when i was trying to watch other anime after FMA:B all over again :'(
& as usual, thanks for the great recap...
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Cyril
February 23, 2015 at 4:20 PM
IKR?..Too many feels :)
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:29 PM
same here, you are not the only one...LOL
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39 toodles
February 23, 2015 at 2:10 PM
I think Dr Seok may very well be Ri Jin's biological father or uncle. As I rewatched this weekend, I noticed he referenced himself as "like a father to Ri Jin" at lease 2 or 3 times. I did not originate this idea. Some other poster mentioned it and I went back to re-watch to check it out.
BTW Thanks tons for the well thought out re-caps!!!
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bbeth
February 23, 2015 at 2:53 PM
Oh yea -- he mentions it to her when she met up with him after she was 'supposed to be in America' and he mentions it to Do-hyun this episode...innnnnteresting that they are throwing in this reference, especially when Dr. Chipmunk knows Ri-jin & family (and her loving mom and doting dad) personally......
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:32 PM
its an interesting theory, love it Toodles, but I'm sure it doesnt matter who the father is as long as DY and RJ are not related rite
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM
+1000000000000000
Exactly!
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40 plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 2:44 PM
Thank you Saya for an insightful and hilarious post.
After reading all the post I am a little confused on one point. Why does everyone think Se Gi and the other's are going to completely disappear. I agree that Do Hyun is absorbing more of his personalities' traits, but I do not believe that just by doing that they will disappear forever. I didn't think DID worked like that. Although this is fiction so maybe. I believe he will at least talk with them in his head (or Se Gi in the mirror), feel like he wants to go fishing, listen to boy bands, and spruce up his dull wardrobe. Don't we all have different sides to ourselves? His are just a little (lot) more defined.
Anyways, loved the bromance, dad messing up their filming of a melo (thanks), and that amazing cliffhanger. It was just an all around great episode.
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kellibean
February 23, 2015 at 3:02 PM
I think it will be just as ORJ said. They will all come together to form a complete CDH. They are all parts of him. Even his "main" personality as CDH is not a complete self. Se gi "is" CDH. Se gi will inded exist "as" CDH and vice versa. They just won't be compartmentalized. That is what I think anyway.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 8:00 PM
It will probably be directed/written that way. Your right about Do Hyun not being his complete self. I do think he is becoming more so as he shows the others traits, however I think it would still be possible for a 'whole' alter ego to appear.
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redfox
February 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM
yeah, like I said above, conversations in the mirror would be good to keep, except it is to catch up and exchange thoughts. a bromance. with himself.
and maybe he could see all his alters in the mirror? Yo Na complaining how Se Gi takes too long in the bathroom and Yo Sub calling them both shallow and uncultural, and then kaboom! .... FERRYYY??
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 8:01 PM
LOL! Firecrackers in the toilet?!
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redfox
February 24, 2015 at 2:43 PM
maybe this time Perry used Se Gi´s explosive charm for the bomb. a certain killer.
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jomo143
February 23, 2015 at 3:21 PM
In order to be mentally healthy, he has to absorb all the facets of his personalities. Otherwise wouldn't he be suffering from memory loss again?
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 8:06 PM
I agree he does need to 'absorb' some parts of them, I just don't think that would make them 'disappear', just turn up less frequently. However, for memory loss that would be up to 'them'. We already know some of them talk to each other, so maybe just more communication. Also boundaries - Yo Na needs her own room and online shopping, but can NOT leave the house!
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41 redfox
February 23, 2015 at 3:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqAG00bmrj4
hilarious bit of behind the scenes
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:23 PM
whoaah thank u for the link, redfox ^__^
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KDramaNewbie
February 23, 2015 at 5:51 PM
Is Ji Sung shadow directing this show? I can't figure out who the director is in these clips
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:10 PM
Nah. He isn't. He is actually communicating to the Director on how he wanted to do the scenes. The director should be the person who has his hands posed like a square (like the camera) to vision the scene. But it also shows that Jisung is indeed a very well respected actor who have voice to deliver his scenes.
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plumwine
February 23, 2015 at 8:10 PM
LOL! I like it when actors have fun on set and feel like they can add some input. It definitely shows. Some of my favorite lines/scenes are because of an oops or an actor or director adding their ideas. Thanks for a great clip.
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Lilly
February 23, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Thanks. That was great.
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42 lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:17 PM
thank u so much for the sharp witted recap again, Saya!!
SIGH, the show is getting closer to the end, one by one finally there are revelations and confirmations of our theory, whose child who, who got abused, and soon.
I wonder after the show ending, which scenes will be remembered the most, 7 faces of DY, fun loving Oh family moments, or other many many more magic moments, that I admit unlike many dramas I watched so far, this show give us so much unromantic scenes to love beside that romantic-sad-crying-kissing-cliche scenes, and for this episodes my favorites go to:
1. Daddy Oh interruptions
2.After drunk RJ conversation with Ri Na (always love this scene as in episode 6)
3.Crying face of DY, the crying is so genuine, I can feel my heart torn into pieces there
Sure, you guys have your own favorites, and sure you all have countless favorites moments of the show, maybe we should make a vote which the most favorite moment later on...LOL
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 6:54 PM
*hi-5*
These three scenes are my favourites in this epsiode. HAHAHAHAHAHAH. I love how Papa Oh keep reminding us "they have been filming melodrama the whole day". It IS SHO FUNNY and it is always my thoughts when I watching KMHM.
The last sequence is so powerful. I really love it and Jisung nailed it. Even though I didn't brawl or cry watching the scene, Segi and Do Hyun mental fight is the scene that I have been waiting for a long long time. Sure it may not be perfect to others but it is perfect for me. I felt very touched when the production deliver this scene so well (it could turn out really awkward and cheesy) that I couldn't even use words to describe!
＿|￣|○ the wait for Wednesday is too torturous for me.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 9:17 PM
beebeeshing is there any FF button for Wednesday...LOL
--Papa Oh keep reminding us “they have been filming melodrama the whole day"-- same as ORO said to himself in the car, when CY hugged DY scene on episode 12, is it time for some melodrama blabla (I dont remember what he said exactly) but its so similar rite, maybe the writer want us to back on track, that this awesome show isnt just some melo but also comedy, suspense, horror etc piece of work...LOL
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beebeeshing
February 24, 2015 at 3:28 AM
I refreshed imbc page until I cannot already. When will the preview be released? I can't wait already! Still have one more day to Wednesday! Omg! What should I do???
Yes!! I agree with you! This drama is a classic example of how to put so many genres together perfectly! I really love what this drama has to offer to us. MBC should really make this drama their textbook material for their other drama production. (￣▽￣)
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43 katami
February 23, 2015 at 4:21 PM
yow..jakkanimdeul .....did u forget about MR.X ?
what about Perry and Yosub?? we want to see mooooore of them :( ...they appeared only two times for a very very short time
and NANA ...we never got to see her/him :(
all in all we want moore episodes :3 :3
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 5:28 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Nana is the name of RJ's teddy bear, as being seen in the previous episode after the kissing scenes, I dont think Nana will show up again unless she is the key for RJ memories, and for Mr. X, he's the one we are all waiting for, I think and I hope he will show up soon ^__^
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44 Aria
February 23, 2015 at 4:25 PM
I agree chingu :)
I love so many scenes in this drama.So many dialogues and inner monologues. It has invested in me in an emotionally deep way.
I think they will all be in a special place in my heart and although the time will come that the drama will end, somehow, I'll still remember them.
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 4:27 PM
@lara4liwa
Chingu!!!
This ^ comment above is supposed to be my reply to your post at no.42 but I don't know what I did that made it like this.
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 4:39 PM
its okay dear...I know that its ur reply to mine, it happens to me too sometimes, maybe because we are so excited and we love the show too much...LOL
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Aria
February 23, 2015 at 8:43 PM
haha..thanks chingu :)
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45 meganG
February 23, 2015 at 4:49 PM
First of all, I totally wanted a reaction shot of Ki Joon and the fiance to CDH's confrontation with grandma.
Second, now I'm just waiting to find out it CDH, or perhaps one of his personalities (the mysterious Mr. X?), set the fire, hoping to punish his family and himself for what happened to Ri Jin.
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knewbie
February 23, 2015 at 9:33 PM
I loved that reaction shot. I was thinking, "Take that, you superficial tweps. Our man Do Hyun has more important things on his mind than the likes of you." (Which I know is terribly childish of me.) But then again, I think Ki Joon and Chae Yeon might actually be on his side when they find what really happened.
As for your theory that it was Do Hyun or one of his emerging alters who had started the fire: I dunno - I don't think he would have done anything so dangerous for Ri Jin unless he had found a way of letting her escape first. Which he might have done...
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SpinThePickle
February 24, 2015 at 5:47 AM
She did have a memory of them outside together. So I was thinking he thought she was safe before hand. Because I agree he wouldn't have done it if he thought she might get hurt. Just a thought since the mystery of the fire itself has been largely ignored.
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46 lily
February 23, 2015 at 6:42 PM
Next drama awards show I need Ji Sung to come in character as Yo Na wearing an evening gown.
Thanks for the recap, Saya!
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lara4liwa
February 23, 2015 at 7:09 PM
my oh my...Yo Na with the pink evening gown, pink lip tint, pink high heel, and dont forget the pink hair band, LOL...LOL...LOL my stomach hurts
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aoisakura
February 24, 2015 at 10:39 PM
LOL ?
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 8:21 PM
No no no!!! I want to see Segi again. It's alright for me to see Jisung with gold leather jacket and eyeliner and up hair do in awards. (I still can't get over that Segi may disappear, I NEED CLOSURE)
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aoisakura
February 24, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Sorry. . Until the drama ends there's no closure for us. That's how KMHM touched our lives. Daaannnggg imagine how this feels ? LOL.. yayyyy insanely crazy in a great way
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Beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 8:25 PM
No no no!! I want to see Jisung in Gold jacket + eye liner + up hair do coordinate. I need a closure for this!
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beebeeshing
February 23, 2015 at 8:29 PM
SAWWRRY GUYS. My comments seems to be duplicated because I thought my comment disappeared and retyped it after I clicked "post comment" button.
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redfox
February 24, 2015 at 1:06 PM
how will this guy ever be "healed" if everyone wants him to stay shattered...
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47 bjharm
February 23, 2015 at 7:01 PM
maybe I am not emoting enough but part of me kind of wishes the gangsters put him in hospital and his mother to find out her greed put him there, maybe it would wake her up. of course thus far none of his family are anything one could feel anything but distaste for, as they like to say in K-drama are they even human. But as this is a k-drama, you know some place and some time they going to have to do something so they could be forgiven and redeemed, just hope it not the wave a magic wand in the last episode and everyone has a personaily change and turn in goodies, as you see in so many kdramas.
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48 skypilot
February 23, 2015 at 7:58 PM
Saya, you knocked this recap out of the park. Great job!!!
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49 aini
February 23, 2015 at 8:38 PM
That gaze.. LBY really is lucky one girl..
I keep this mantra everytime i see that lovely gaze,
"Ji Sung is a man happily married.. JI SUNG IS A MAN HAPPILY MARRIED"
*slap slap*
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50 Lilly
February 23, 2015 at 8:53 PM
I forgot about Mr. X. I wonder if he is an all new person once the personalities are all back together or someone else, maybe the one who caused the fire.
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