Ho-gu’s Love: Episode 3
by javabeans
It’s my turn to weigh in on Ho-gu’s Love! For being promoted as a light and zany opposites-attract romance, this show is surprisingly more heartfelt than I’d expected. There are lots of comedic moments, but the show is centered much more around the emotional development than the comedy, which gives it a more subdued overall tone than it appeared at first glance. Good thing we’ve got Choi Woo-shik anchoring this show, because he gives the show its heart, raw and bruised though it may be at times.
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공기남녀 (Air Couple) – “숨바꼭질” (Hide and seek) [ Download ]
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Third Fool’s Errand: Let’s leave the squid in its place
Ho-gu and Do-hee meet for the first time in months on the subway, and the passing glimpse of her very pregnant abdomen puts him in shock. Do-hee stiffens, but adopts her usual brusqueness while he takes a seat next to her, dazed, at first not wanting to turn his head to confirm that what he saw was real.
But his eyes slide sideways and he (verrrry slooooowly) starts to work out the situation, and Do-hee confirms by saying she’s one her way back from the hospital, “because of my baby.” Ho-gu thinks confusedly, “A baby should be made when a man and a woman love. Pregnancy should happen when a man and woman are married. Then Do-hee…”
She gets up at her stop and exits the subway car as he thinks, “Then what about me, waiting for her these six months?” He bolts out of the car at the last second, angry at himself for being so dumb while he chases after Do-hee.
That transitions to a scene late at night, as Ho-gu is being dragged out of a restaurant, covered in… blood? pepper sauce? while shouting at his buddies that it’s unfair. The police have been called and drag him out and into the squad car.
Dad and Ho-kyung rush to the police station where he’s being held, and everyone asks in bewilderment why he did it. Ho-gu just lies there, staring blankly, covered in red.
Six months earlier.
Ho-gu looks at his photos of Do-hee from their trip to Yeosu, moony-eyed and smiling. He hides them from his buddies, which prompts Chung-jae to fart in his face while Tae-hee just calmly picks up the pictures when he’s not looking. While the truth dawns on him, Ho-gu shakes his head wildly and then jumps on him to shut him up, and then takes him out to eat meat.
Ho-gu ends up apologetically feeding Tae-hee as he explains how he ended up spending the night with Do-hee. Tae-hee takes this in unblinkingly for long moments before the dam breaks, and he bursts out in hurt and anger that Ho-gu kept this a secret. He reminds him, “I poured all of my teen years into you.” Ho-gu hangs his head and remembers back to high school:
Ho-gu heads to the bathroom with his head buried in a manhwa book, and notices a gang of boys cornering a scared Tae-hee—as the new kid, they’ve designated him their snack errand boy, and Tae-hee has tried to stand up to them. Ho-gu finally has enough and yells at the gang, pointing a finger at them—with a hand that’s dripping in pee. Ewwww. Everybody recoils as he waves his hand in their direction, and when he pats the lead bully on the shirtfront, the bully turns his anger on both of them.
Afterward, both boys are scratched up and battered as they sit in a manhwa shop together, eating ramyun. Tae-hee wonders at Ho-gu’s name, and Ho-gu explains, probably for the millionth time in his life, that the characters making up his name mean “true hero” (rather than the “pushover” that is everyone’s first thought). Tae-hee starts to introduce himself, but Ho-gu already knows his name, and gives him the last piece of kimchi to boot. Tae-hee is so touched he offers the snack in his pocket.
In the present day (well, six months before the absolute present), Tae-hee storms out of the restaurant in a huff, and Ho-gu tries to calm him down with flattery. Finally Tae-hee stops and pouts about his feelings being hurt, but also adds that he’s proud of Ho-gu—now he’s finally on the level of that jerk, Byun Kang-chul.
Speaking of whom, Kang-chul is currently participating in a Polar Bear Swim Festival, leading the pack of hundreds as they swim in the frigid ocean. He takes first place and poses with the other medalists, trying to ignore the polar bear that keeps photobombing his moment. Haha, it’s so random and weird, and therefore funny.
From what we’ve seen thus far of Kang-chul, we can infer that he’s a haughty perfectionist, so it’s amusing to see that he’s shaking in cold while trying to look laid-back for a sel-ca. And then it goes from laid-back to sultry to downright laughable.
Kang-chul’s secretary, Gong-mi, happens to be friends with Ho-kyung, which somehow makes perfect sense. The ladies chat about setting up friends on dates, and when Gong-mi asks Ho-kyung to get her brother to go on a date with a girl who wants a nice guy, Ho-kyung balks, saying that he’s too nice and innocent that he needs a girl who’s even nicer than him.
Do-hee meets with her coach while holding her bag in front of her stomach, and he still thinks that she’s out on hemorrhoid-surgery-related concerns. He wants her back in action by next month, which she answers only noncommittally before asking for money. Without blinking an eye, she names a huge sum (close to ten grand), which sounds absurd until she reminds him of how she earned more than he gave her.
Do-hee’s wearing a large sweatshirt that mostly covers up her condition, but on the subway a grandma insists she take a seat, seeing as how she’s pregnant. Do-hee protests that she’s not, but grandma isn’t fooled and just asks after her condition with kind concern. Do-hee worries that she’s eating too much, but granny just says that it’s one side effect, and the baby must want its mom to gain weight.
Then we jump ahead to December, which is when Do-hee is due to give birth. By now Ho-gu is a blank-eyed mess of despondency, wondering why Christmas is still so far away. Then he leaps for his phone when it sounds, and cries when the battery dies. Dad calls Mom in worry, saying the he thinks the poor kid still believes in Santa. LOL. Mom corrects him, saying that she thinks things didn’t go so well with that “some girl” a few months back.
“Some” happens to be Ho-kyung’s specialty, and she’s actually giving a presentation to her class on the value of being good at it (i.e., navigating the waters of flirtation at the outset of a potential relationship) in order to succeed in dating. To back up her assertion, she presents data from an experiment, conducted with three different mice. Ha, she shows how giving and withholding food spurred that mouse to try harder and survive, over the other mice that were fed regularly or not at all.
The professor is intrigued with her research, though she wonders if she’ll be lacking in test subject. Ho-kyung assures her that she’s got plenty of those, providing the segue to our three hogus.
When she arrives to see Ho-gu, Tae-hee, and Chung-jae, labels inform us which is which: Chung-jae is Mouse No. 3, whose survival instinct is spurred by regular feedings, alternating with withheld feedings. (That is to say, Ho-kyung has given him the numbers of three girls, but none of them returned his calls, and she says they’ve all gone to the sticks and are out of range.) Tae-hee is Mouse No. 1, poor mouse who gets no food ever and loses the ability to grasp food when it’s present, while Ho-gu is Mouse No. 2, who gets fed indiscriminately and thus becomes lethargic and loses the drive to keep eating.
Ho-gu gets a text message and frantically checks his phone… and deflates when it’s not Do-hee. Ho-kyung scoffs at him for still being hung up on Do-hee, and says “Sure, sure” sarcastically when his buddies defend him for still having hope. He gets so upset that he yells at his sister, and she later apologizes while he sits outside with an unlit cigarette dangling from his lips. He says that he doesn’t need a constant exchange of messages to confirm feelings between a couple; a sense of mutual trust is enough.
Ho-kyung sighs and offers advice as a fellow young person in the world. She explains coming home drunk the other night, and having kissed a guy. She can’t remember who it is, but weirder yet is that she can’t then figure out which of her five research partners it could have been, because nobody’s acting different at all. So the time has passed for the kiss to mean anything more than a momentary physical act.
Later that night, Ho-gu tries calling Do-hee and gets no answer, as usual. He tries the swimming league next, which is how he meets the coach, taking us back to his meeting with the coach that we’d previously seen. The coach and Ho-kyung have now both told him that he and Do-hee aren’t on the same level—heck, Ho-kyung says he’s not even in the same species. Do-hee’s human, and he’s… a squid.
But turns out that Do-hee is craving squid, quite literally, and the doctor assures her that it’s fine to eat. She’s due any day now, and the doctor’s comment about light exercise—swimming in particular—makes her stiffen and say she’s really bad at swimming. The doctor plays along, and just directs her to a good restaurant that has squid soondae.
That’s when she gets on the subway where Ho-gu gives up his seat for her, putting them face to face for the first time in months. Ho-gu chases her out into the station, mistaking someone else for her, only to have Do-hee find him.
She invites him to eat squid soondae with her, and he fumes inside, imagining himself slapping her with a piece of squid and raging about how he spent the past six months pining and waiting, and how all she can do is ask if he wants to eat.
But in actuality, he sits miserably and asks how far along she is, and when she got married. Do-hee says she got married quickly, and when he asks if it’s okay to marry like that (as in, so lightly), she answers that it must be fate—that’s what people say when something happens just like that, easily.
And what can he say to that? Ho-gu thinks to himself how there’s no use in arguing or demanding explanations, since they’ll change nothing. He pays for their lunch and thinks, “Still, I didn’t want to show my back first” and sends Do-hee off first. He watches her go, thinking, “I felt I needed to see Do-hee walking away with my own eyes.”
He tells Tae-hee this over soju later that night, and Tae-hee tries to cheer him up, saying that it made him nervous when he found out that Do-hee had been the girl Ho-gu was entangled with. She’s a superstar celebrity, and they’re just squids: “Wouldn’t squids be happier with other squids?” If they tried to mix, the squid would be the one hurt.
Ho-gu says he’s fine and thinks of it as a nice dream, saying that at least he’s got a cool friend like Tae-hee next to him. They clasp hands and brotherly “i love you”s and drink up.
In the morning, Ho-gu wakes up covered in red sauce and hugging a huge squid-shaped pillow, which entangles him with its tentacles while he screams in alarm… which is when he wakes up again, thankfully not hugging a huge squid, but lying this time next to a dozen actual squids, which makes him scream some more.
This one’s not a dream, and his friends just tell him calmly that of course there are fresh squids in his bed, because Ho-gu brought them with him. Doesn’t he remember yesterday?
Ho-gu thinks. We flash back to last night.
In the squid restaurant, Ho-gu’s passed out at the table and Tae-hee calls Chung-jae to help carry him home. Ho-gu snaps awake while Tae-hee goes to the bathroom, and starts crying pitifully for his buddies in the squid tank. “What? You want to come out of there?” he asks them. He grabs one in each hand and waves them around, crying in sympathy for their plight, while the ajumma freaks out and Tae-hee convinces him to return them to the tank.
Things are calm for about a second, until Ho-gu grabs for the squids again and stuffs them in a bag, promising to take them home. It takes several cops and both friends to subdue Ho-gu, and in the scuffle the hot sauce tube gets sprayed all over him. So he’s dragged off yelling all about how they need to live free and how it’s so unfair.
And now, we’re finally fully caught up to the present day. Ho-gu’s friends tell him how he insisted on setting them free, and then covered them with his blanket because they might get cold. Chung-jae says exhaustedly that they’ll have to move away from this neighborhood now, while Tae-hee rails at him. Ho-gu slowly shifts position till he’s on his knees, hanging his head contritely.
At least they’ll have squid for ages, and the family keeps it a secret from Mom, just telling her that Ho-gu bought a bunch of squid for a bargain. Today’s Christmas Eve, and the parents have plans to go vacation on the beach for several nights. Ho-kyung has plans to spend the holiday with her friends, and Ho-gu offers to keep the shop open for them.
Later, Ho-gu opens up a box containing mementoes of his night with Do-hee, from the soju bottlecap they drank from to her silver medal. He remembers the words Do-hee said after they kissed, that she doesn’t intend to date him.
Dad joins him outside that night and asks if he fought with his some-girl, or got dumped. Ho-gu says no, that he just mistook the relationship for more than it was, saying that it’s okay and that it’s all over now. Dad asks if he asked directly whether he’d been mistaken, and that it’s more embarrassing to never say what he meant.
Do-hee packs a bag in her small single room, and lingers over the manhwa book she borrowed from Ho-gu. It’s the same book he’s looking at in the shop—or rather, the empty space where it should be.
In the morning, he steps out when he hears a book being left in the drop box, and heads out to get it. Around the corner, Do-hee breathes a sigh of relief, thinking he’d spotted her. She slips away unseen, and Ho-gu pulls out the books in the box. The sight of her book tips him off and he immediately runs down the block looking for her, and sees her walking away.
By now overdue, Do-hee tries the light exercise option and heads to an empty pool, where she floats idly until the employee tries to hurry her out. She (only barely) manages to bite back the string of swears, and sweetly promises to clean up after herself and lock up, and he agrees to let her.
Do-hee resumes floating, and then another voice calls out to her. It’s Ho-gu.
Sitting side by side, she makes an excuse for why she didn’t come into the shop to return the book. He hands back her medal, but before she takes it back, he asks her to answer one thing. “You and I… what were we?” Aw, he took Dad’s advice.
Do-hee replies, “We were friends. And we’re friends now.” He asks if “just friends” go to see the ocean together, or hold hands and run together. And if they were friends, she should have invited him to her wedding.
She concedes that they’d had something—so what? She reminds him that she’d warned him that she wouldn’t date him, and her voice gets a little sneering as she says he’s overreacting. Going to the beach, staying out all night, having some skinship: “Is that so special?”
That sparks Ho-gu’s anger, and he yells back, “To me, that’s not what we did. Even if you disappeared for six months without calling, even if you got married without word, even if you showed up out of the blue in this condition! I’ve never hated you. But seeing you today, you’re a real bitch. And you—are you so surprised that you’re peeing yourself?”
Nope, that’s her water breaking. It sounds a little extra-pathetic today when he sighs, “My name is Ho-gu.”
Next thing we know, he’s hurrying along next to her hospital gurney, urging her to hang in there. In pain, she grabs his hair and holds on tight.
COMMENTS
It took me a little while to adjust to this show, whose pacing is a little different than the shows I’ve seen lately, although not too different from some of tvN’s previous rom-coms like Flower Boy Next Door or even Dating Agency Cyrano. I was expecting this writer-director duo to re-create the zaniness of their previous collaboration, Flower Boy Ramyun Shop, and the first two episodes surprised me by being slower and more contemplative.
There are two major strengths to the show, which are its directorial hand and its leading man. PD Pyo Min-soo is doing a lot here, in subtle touches and scene transitions that aren’t always obvious but are clearly very well-thought-out. Scenes that aren’t necessarily linked may be connected by a sly bit of wordplay that provides a nice bridge, or maybe a visual moment that smooths out the transition. Even without these small touches I wouldn’t think the editing were choppy because there’s a stylistic cohesion that pulls the thing together, but it does make the drama feel more like an indie movie, keeping us flowing from one scene to the next in a nicely considered bit of directing.
Choi Woo-shik is the more obvious factor, and he is really a gem here. He’s shown flashes of being a promising actor in many/all of his previous dramas, but now he really rises to the challenge and inhabits this character, and infuses him with so much sincerity that it’s almost painful, because you feel like his Ho-gu is real. Despite the obvious gag with his name, the character is never the butt of a joke—maybe to people in his world he is, but never to us watching the drama—and never becomes a caricature of the sad sack lonelyheart.
It would have been really easy to draw him in the slick rom-com mold of slapstick dork heroes, always ready to mug for the camera as he takes a pratfall, but Choi Woo-shik acts with a quiet dignity that makes Ho-gu admirable, rather than laughable. It must be frustrating to love him and watch him being so painfully innocent, as his family does, but there’s no undercurrent of mean spirit. Ho-gu is sweet and earnest and the world may not appreciate that, but the drama very clearly recognizes his value, and it makes me root not for him to stop being a hogu, but for the world to stop treating him like being who he is is something to pity. For what it’s worth, I do think Do-hee sees this in him too, and I have hope that she will appreciate it sooner rather than later. We’re still in the dark about many things with her, but I want to believe that there are explanations that shed light on her actions. More for Ho-gu’s sake than ours do I want her to be the woman he thinks she is—that’s a bit of faith that ought to be realized, no?
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1 ore
February 16, 2015 at 8:35 PM
Thank you for the recap, trying to catch up on this drama it looks very good.
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adelaide
February 17, 2015 at 9:11 AM
First, that selfie really was hilarious. How vain can you be,Mister? ;-)
Choi Woo Shik is really perfect as Ho Goo, I can empathize to his situation, the "some" thing. And when his sister's friend was asking her to hook her up with Ho Goo, she refused and said that her brother is a sweet and innocent soul and therefore must meet somewhat just as nice or even better. That was really saying something.
Now I wonder where Do Hee's parents are, was it mentioned before? maybe I missed it like they are overseas or dead already. so far it was just the coach who acts like a guardian but not really caring, right?
I think I'll do some reshuffling in my top 10 for 2015.
(this is just my preference, and arranged according to my interest)
1. Healer
2. Kill Me Heal Me
3. Ho Goo's Love
4. Shine or Go Crazy
5. Hyde Jekyl Me
6. Heart to Heart
7. Spy
8. Sweden Laundry
9. Persevere Go Hae Ra
10. Punch
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ikram
February 17, 2015 at 11:43 AM
for me hogu's love
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Avior
February 19, 2015 at 3:14 AM
Try watching 'Kill Me,Heal Me'.The plot is more complex and intense as compared to 'Hyde,Jekyll and Me'.
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2 Viki
February 16, 2015 at 8:37 PM
Yay thank you for the recap! Just finished watching this episode. Can't wait for what tomorrow's episode is gonna entail...keke
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ikram
February 17, 2015 at 11:52 AM
me too
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3 William Schwartz
February 16, 2015 at 8:43 PM
I think Do-hee probably is exactly what she seems- a rude, unpleasant person that's not a lot of fun to be around. The drama's been pretty consistent on this point.
The interesting twist for me here is that it seems more like she'll learn from Hogu than the other way around. Superficially Hogu might be the squid, but unlike Do-hee, Hogu knows how to talk people and can generally take care of himself even if he looks like a total dork in the process.
In the long plot, Hogu's character arc may well be realizing that there is no human/squid divide. Even glamorous celebrities have their own mental issues, and the very factors that make Do-hee attractive are also what make her nearly impossible to interact with on a personal level.
I'm expecting Do-hee to start her character growth once the baby comes out. It's clear that she's vastly underestimating the sheer work involved in taking care of an infant, and that will probably be the dose of humility Do-hee needs to realize that she can't solve every problem by just snapping at people. No woman is an island.
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4 samsooki
February 16, 2015 at 8:47 PM
i love this show.
the mom is a riot. the sister is a riot. the friends are awesome.
I loved it when they say so matter of factly, we gotta move now. pack your stuff. there is loyalty there.
the thing about guys that ppl may not get is that the number one wish that guys have for each other is loyalty. dont leave your wingman. go down with your shipmates. take one for the team. dont take another man's horse. all of those things are different ways to state the secret wish that guys share, not so directly, but all guys share - we want, we need, we hope for, loyalty.
And when we see it, when we see it as real and not fake or contrived, then we respond to it.
Ho Gu has his loyal friends, he has the love of his family, and that is more than enough.
The great relief of this drama is that the main character has already won. Whether he gets the girl is the story to follow, but my mind is at ease - Ho Goo has already been blessed by a loving family and loyal friends.
He is no loser at life. He has already won.
And that makes the rest of the show enjoyable without worry, without stress.
Thank you JB for your wonderful analysis and beautiful writing.
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William Schwartz
February 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM
Very well said! It's really hard to ignore the fact that however badly things seem to be going for Hogu, he genuinely seems to be doing all right mentally. But wheres Hogu is a happy loser, Do-hee is a depressed superstar. It's an absolutely fascinating comparison that again begs, in my mind, who the squid really is in this relationship.
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samsooki
February 16, 2015 at 9:10 PM
One of the neat things about how this drama was put together is the relate-abilty of DDH.
Few in the world can relate to how difficult it is to train to become a worldclass swimmer - the drive / the push to succeed keeps them in the water when all other sane and reasonable people have long since gone home. Training, not winning, is foremost.
What DDH had to sacrifice to get to where she was, well, that story has yet to be told. But now her story has changed because the story is not just about her anymore, and that is a reality that many people can relate to - and so while few can understand her past sacrifices, many now can understand her dilemna.
The relateability of DDH saves the character from being just another untouchable chaebol or pretty rich girl. What she is now, is not some goddess world-class swimmer, but a scared individual with the weight of a tiny baby burdening DDH to the extent that she cannot even walk straight.
There is a danger tho. I hope the story arc does not go towards the mundane because there is a fresh uniqueness that is most unusual for a rom com like this. I hope we will continue to see surprises and maybe get more from this than just another boy meets girl story.
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5 coby
February 16, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Already? I was just downloading this episode. Thanks for the recap!
and yes how can we not love the earnest Hogu
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6 nevergreen
February 16, 2015 at 8:54 PM
Daww this drama is adorable! The directing is on point and I'm loving the general mood and atmosphere that this drama has.
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7 Sajen
February 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM
Ho-gu, Ho-gu, Ho-gu, how much I want to hit you. Living like that isn't fun it just makes you feel like the world's sucking your soul out and by the time you're almost 30 you're just tired and want to move to a private island with your family and your circle of friends and never see anyone else.
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Ella
February 16, 2015 at 9:42 PM
In the context of this drama I see Hogu's life as wholesome, even if he's lacking in the romance department. He may get screwed over and over again, but his kind heart always prevails. His personality and sincerity is the kind that draws people in and has the power to change them for better. His life is about quality and not so much quantity. He may not have a lot of friends but the ones he has would go to the moon and back for him, so that says a lot.
I'm really enjoying this drama and its contemplative tone, and LOL humor with the sister, family and friends. Overall, good stuff.
So will there be a cycle of 3-recappers for this drama? (JB, GF and O?)
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nomad
February 18, 2015 at 10:38 AM
Exactly. I don't see him as the kind that would give up and tired, cause he always have his back covered with his family and his bros. His dad, aww..the kind hearted appa. I just love him. That narcissistic lawyer, goodness...he's the kind I can't stand most. I hope Ho Gu's sister put him in his place, to all be honest.
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8 Arhazivory
February 16, 2015 at 9:20 PM
I really love the character Ho Gu. He's so endearing and not a wimp like I initially thought he'd be. He made the first move on their trip and confronting her head on like that was win. He could've cowered when she asked if it was anything special but he didn't. Lol, then he hogu-ly asked her if she peed herself.
This drama seems very manga-esque to me but I can't remember if it's based off a comic. In any case I'm enjoying it. I've loved Choi Woo Shik since Ten and it's rewarding to finally see him ably carrying a slow.
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nikkik411
February 16, 2015 at 9:50 PM
To answer your question, it is based off a webtoon.
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9 Dani Serodio Gamus
February 16, 2015 at 9:27 PM
Do Do Hee is going to ditch him with the baby, isn't she?
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10 nikkik411
February 16, 2015 at 9:49 PM
I love this drama so much!
During that last scene, I was literally sobbing because I could relate to the hurt and confusion Ho Gu felt so much but as soon as he asked if she was peeing because she was so shocked, those tears immediately turned into laughter as I contemplated how he could be so dumb. Choi Woo Shik is the cutest little puppy ever. And even better, he's the main! Usually the adorable characters get shoved into the 2nd lead spot where their cute little sweethearts get stomped on by the female lead (ie. Lee Hyun Woo, Kim Shi Hoo, etc.). This drama is exactly my favorite kind in that it balances the sad parts with the funny parts so well that if you do end up crying, it's only for maybe two minutes before you're laughing again. It's no fun sobbing through an entire 16-20 episode drama.
From the preview, it seems that Do Hee is going to register Ho Gu as her baby's father which is going to make for an amazing plot. I'm glad I get my baby drama after being cheated by FTLY. I think I may have a heart attack from the cuteness of Ho Gu and a baby, though. TvN, you've done it again!
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Hannasj
February 17, 2015 at 2:01 AM
oh my my. that's exactly what happened to me. I was literally sobbing trying to sip in all the miserableness that Ho Gu felt at that time when suddenly Ho gu asked if she peed herself because of the shock then I was laughing hysterically with tears running down my eyes, I felt like a crazy person right there rolling over my stomach. man, this show really have it's way of making you cry and laugh at the same time.
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11 coby
February 16, 2015 at 9:49 PM
Did DDH approached Ho-gu on purpose? I mean showing up on the comic book shop that Ho-gu's dad owns and appearing on the reunion.
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ihur
February 16, 2015 at 11:03 PM
I thought so too when she recognised him to his surprise in the restaurant..... but then her character is pretty honest.... she is quite straightforward when it comes to critical situations whether its hurling abuses or telling directly that she isn't available....She seems true to her feelings......
What made me change my mind about the possiblity of it all being an act was when she cried on the beach to remove whats inside of her.... That was very raw....
It could be that she liked him as well back in high school since they shared common interests but I dont think she planned the meeting to entangle the guy and use him to her will....She doesn't seem calculative in my opinion.
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alua
February 17, 2015 at 8:25 AM
I'm guessing she recognised him already at the crossing and that that's why she went.
I feel like if she had had a calculative plan to entangle him from the start, she wouldn't have disappeared for six months and returned the manga in the book box (rather than in person) – it seemed more like her own intention was to do this (the pregnancy, the baby) completely on her own.
Plus, when they first met again she wasn't even planning on keeping the baby.
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nomad
February 18, 2015 at 10:40 AM
agreed. I don't see her as calculative...but I do think she's in an earnest look for a real friend.
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12 gem28
February 16, 2015 at 10:32 PM
I love this show, initially I though Ho Goo will be an absolute innocent dork with no skill whatsoever and was skeptical if I'd be able to love a drama with a male lead like that. But, I am really impressed that it really isn't so. Ho Goo is a well written character. Yes, he is a little too naive when it comes to romance or picking up the right signal but he is responsible, he cares for his friends and family and they deeply care for him. He can take care of himself even though he has his shortcomings and he is surprisingly sorted out person. Do Hee on the other hand has everything going right on the surface and absolutely nothing going right for her once you take away her super successful image. She has an irritating personality and lacks social skill. She has no friend and her ex-boyfriend is an irritating perfectionist which didn't help her grow as a person. The way I see it, Do Hee has a lot to learn from Ho Goo. Also, I loved that Ho Goo let his frustration out and let her know his mind, goes to show he isn't afraid of confrontation or taking an initiative. I also love Ho Goo's friends and family, in my eyes at-least Ho Goo is not a looser. Yes, he has to grow on certain areas but otherwise he is a sorted out responsible adult with a heart of gold. I knew Choi Woo Shik is a good actor and I am glad he got his shot at showcasing that he is leading man material. I can't wait to see how the rest of the story unfolds. And thank you for the recap JavaBeans.
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13 jane
February 16, 2015 at 11:04 PM
well, i only watch ep 1 and sorry but im not really feeling this drama, i think ill just continue reading the recaps for now :)
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jee_t
February 17, 2015 at 1:25 AM
Same (except I'm only now dropping it), I just feel like I don't really care what happens to the characters and whether they get together or not, what happens to Do Hee and the baby, etc. Don't get me wrong, this drama has some great things going on for it, but something feels lacking so that I don't care about the next episode :/
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14 stars4u
February 16, 2015 at 11:37 PM
I watched their taxi episode and I see Hogu in Choi Woo Sick even off character.
I believe Do Hee likes Hogu more than how she is letting on. I can't wait to see what happens next. It won't be too farfetched if Hogu would take the child as his, he's Hogu after all.
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15 JoyBells
February 16, 2015 at 11:51 PM
Choi Woo Shik is doing such amazing things with this role.He plays this character with such earnest and sincerity that you can't help falling a bit in love with him.Like his sister says,in todays dating field,where each tiny thing has to be calculated and actions thought,Ho gu loves with such simplicity and warmth,which may be a cause of concern for his family and friends but is the very thing that makes him such a bumbling sweetheart.
Hoo gu's life may seem a bit pathetic,but he seems to have a solid support of his family and friends whereas Do hee might seem to have it all but in reality is quite lonely.
I hope both Doo hee and Hoo gu can learn from each other and grow togerher.
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16 irrel
February 17, 2015 at 12:31 AM
I have so much love for this drama and Choi Woo Shik. This episode got me laughing so hard... Woo Shik's drunk acting in the squid scene wins points from me. He's such a natural!
When HG started tearing up during the meal with DH, lowering his gaze and trying not to cry... I could feel his pain :( The BFF scene with Kim Tae Hee was really sweet too. HG offering the last piece of kimchi to TH, and TH giving him his narutomaki in exchange. Heartwarming and simple moments like this make me fall in love with a drama instantly. Sigh...
Can't wait to see how the relationship between DH and HG will progress from here. I really like them together. DH, the tsundere, and HG, the earnest puppy. (That's how I see him most of the time, hahaha I love him!) Definitely keeping this drama in my books! <3
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17 ebay
February 17, 2015 at 12:32 AM
Poor Hugo. I'm still wondering what story HL wants to deliver. It's episode 3 already, slower than expected.
I can't imagine any other actor can be Hugo the way Choi Woo-shik does. He's so adorable.
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18 Sour Grapes
February 17, 2015 at 1:09 AM
I wish there were more guys like Hogu in Korean dramas. Kind, devoted and completely average in terms of looks/income/intellectual ability. It's a quirky rom-com, but I am much more emotionally invested in Hogu's personal story than some byronesque Chaebols ( even if they are played by incredibly awesome actors like Hyun Bin or Ji Sung).
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k_m
February 17, 2015 at 5:11 AM
It's too bad they use him so much for comic relief though, I wish we weren't being forced to think of him as a "fool" or not manly enough or w/e just because he's not macho
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alua
February 17, 2015 at 5:42 AM
I'm not seeing him as half as much a fool as that some people around him are mean and/or fake and, in my book, the real losers & fools.
He i naive when it comes to romance, more so than others (although plenty of the others are consulting trendy magazines for love advice too and at least Ho-gu realises love is just "what you feel", not what some magazine check list). He's had no relationship in the past, but in everything else I feel like he's got it all and is so much richer than those with fancier jobs, more money or fame.
His family is fabulous, as are his two friends (loving the bromance already. Also betting that one of his friends is going to end up with his sister). If there was no romance in this drama, just these personal interactions would be enough for me. I'd watch it if Do-hee leaves the baby and runs off never to be seen again, because we'd still get a wonderful story with Ho-gu raising that child with the help of the loyal supporters he's got. (Of course, we will get the romance line in this drama, because K dramas just about always do. Just hope that love rivalry with the lawyer guy is going to be kept at a minimum.)
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19 pimpy
February 17, 2015 at 3:11 AM
I have yet to watch this episode but I'm happy it gets all the love it deserves. Thank you jb for the recap. :) And I fully agree that we need more Hogus in dramaland being the lead, this show feels like the 2nd lead finally getting the girl and the guy never loses his heart and depth.
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alua
February 17, 2015 at 5:32 AM
We need more Ho-gus, but also also more female Ho-gus – rather than the candies that get trampled all over and then kiss the feet of their chaebols.
I'm glad Do-hee isn't a straight-out 'sassy girl' either (which is what I was sort of expecting), I mean, she isn't nice and I don't care for her too much just yet but you can get a sense already that there are all kinds of sides to her. There is glimpses of her vulnerability and also signs of her appreciating acts of kindness (like the grandma and the gentleman giving her a chocolate pocky) – her snappy, not-so-approachable self is obviously the thick skin she's put on against the world, but one that (unlike in a full sassy girl character) will come off.
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20 john
February 17, 2015 at 6:09 AM
javabeans ~
Thanks for the recap. I've yet to watch this episode but I plan to treat my self here in a few.
It's 24 F w/a windchill of 11. Perfect excuse to stay inside and catch up on dramas.
This is the first role I recall seeing UEE in. I don't really remember her in Queen Seon Duk.
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21 Lizzy4e
February 17, 2015 at 6:26 AM
Where is everyone watching this? It is not exclusive to the deathstar is it? (dramafever)
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Because of Reasons
February 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM
Up until last week, it was exclusive to the deathstar (but was also available at other more iffy streaming sites that I won't mention here). Now there are episodes up at Viki too, but I think they are region restricted and/or on delay.
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john
February 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Lizzy4e ~
It looks as though Darksmurf is subbing it, only 2 eps as of this AM. I will say that DF subs were lacking.
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JoyBells
February 17, 2015 at 11:37 PM
Dramabay
dramacool
gooddrama
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Sour Grapes
February 18, 2015 at 4:56 AM
Deathstar? LOL, I love it. Sums Dramafever up pretty nicely.
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Maru Hime
February 19, 2015 at 2:26 AM
Deathstar? I don't watch at DF. Why deathstar? :)
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jomo143
February 20, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Because they are run like an evil empire who want to shut down the rebel alliances across the globe.
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22 Tai
February 17, 2015 at 9:02 AM
Like others stated above (and JB) i do love that Hogu isnt just a sadsack and a loser. its more that he's an innocent pure kid in a cynical and jaded world. we the viewers are meant to sympathize with him more than laugh at him. (though sometimes we'll laugh too. omg at that bit with the squids!)
He's really cute too, bless CWS for his acting so far, he rly makes Hogu come alive. I like how the title and his name suggest a Fool but in the end i think he's probably going to turn out much more like the meaning his father had in mind when he gave Hogu that name. "True Hero" ;_;
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23 Tai
February 17, 2015 at 9:24 AM
I'd like to talk about Do Hee now. I have alot to say so i'm putting it in a separate reply.
Everyone seems to see Do Hee as a cold blooded bitch or failing taht a very unlikable person so far.
I agree she's pretty prickly and closed off. But i suspect there's reasons for that, esp just as she seems to have no friends (and so far we have no mention of her family, wouldnt be surprised if she's not on great terms with them either)
Anyway, the drama hasnt touched on it but honestly I'm surprised no one has considered the reasons as to why Do Hee avoided Hogu all those months and told him nothing. Like it makes sense for him to be furious at her cuz he assumes she just up and got married then pregnant without even a thought to her promise to Hogu. He's naive and thinks she found love and a husband. but he could not be more wrong about her circumstances, circumstances that would imo explain everything she's done since the drama began.
From where I'm standing, its pretty obvious why Dohee told him nothing and promised to see him MONTHS later. I'm pretty positive Dohee did in fact plan to meet him again on Christmas Day but that was with the belief she'd have given birth by then. Recall she even said the same to her coach.
However it was well established in the episode that she is overdue, which would mean she could not fulfill her promise without appearing in front of Hogu full on preggers. P obv she didnt want him or anyone else to know she got knocked up.
Its pretty obvious that the father is not in Do hee's life, thats assuming she even knows who the father IS. she could have been drunk and had a hook up. (happens alot). got pregnant and found out about it the same day when the drama first opened. hence her breakdown on the beach that day/night. she has no one to open up to, again its pretty clear she hasnt even told her family about her child and then there was sweet Hogu right there....
I dont think Do Hee had an inkling how intense Hogu would take her promise and their night at the beach. I dont think she saw it with the cold distance she affected in front of Hogu at the pool but I highly doubt she thought he'd gaf about her anymore if she'd told him the perfect swimming princess who was idolized by him and korea was now a woman pregnant out of wedlock and soon to be a single mother (assuming her intention was to raise the child herself). Why on earth would she tell Hogu that? Why would he be owed that knowledge???
Considering even in the most open minded culture getting knocked up and not knowing who the father is or him ditching you looks at least embarassing, in SK culture it would make her look downright scandalous. and the thing is Do Hee is prob not as tough as she appears and even if she was, she probably would feel like crap having ppl talk shit about her baby and her instead of just her. She doesnt have much reason to think Hogu would be sympathetic to her plight since she barely interacted with him...
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alua
February 17, 2015 at 12:54 PM
<Its pretty obvious that the father is not in Do hee’s life, thats assuming she even knows who the father IS.
I think we've had pretty strong hints that the father of Do-hee's child is the lawyer / former school president (who is Do hee's ex).
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owl 🦉 🫰
February 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM
But if so, we don't know if Do Hee has even told mr lawyer that he's the father. I think Do Hee kept oh goo out of the picture so things wouldn't get complicated, but they have anyway. As for Hogu not being as clueless as most think he is, I think the same goes for Do Hee, that she is not as thoughtless as many think she is. There's more to her story that I hope will account for the long list of lies about her life that she's constructed. Yes Hogu is hurt, but she is hurting, too. I appreciated how the Doctor subtlety watched over her with a hint about swimming and a place to get squid soondae.
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alua
February 17, 2015 at 3:49 PM
I thought the preview hinted at that he did know. But then I don't trust previews – they are often misleading.
I very much agree that Do-hee isn't as thoughtless as people seem to think so far and that she is hurting too. I've suggested that in another comment – she isn't a full-blown "sassy girl" character as I was expecting her to be (just like Ho-gu isn't the total wimp) precisely because we've been given glimpses of her pain & loneliness & vulnerability, and her ability to accept kindness too. At the moment she's like a wild animal that roars when you approach because she's been hurt in the past, but with some love & support (from Ho-gu, his family & friends) I could see her fit right into their precious little circle.
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24 Tai
February 17, 2015 at 9:34 AM
ugh forgive me the length. i have alot to say -_-
She doesnt have much reason to think Hogu would be sympathetic to her plight since she barely interacted with him in HS and only saw him for one night prior to their months long separation. and If we take into account how far along her doctor said she was when the drama opened, and how many months it was from then till christmas. it was very reasonable for her to assume she'd have given birth by then. perhaps was even going to give up the kid for adoption and pretend nothing had ever happened.
In the time since she made that promise, she may have changed her mind and gotten attached to her kid, would be understandable, and would explain perhaps why she refused to even contact hogu in all taht time. This would would lead her to try and avoid Hogu after he accidentally found out she was pregnant. I'm not surprised she didnt discuss the particulars of that with Hogu. (why on earth would she want to? would YOU want to in her place?)
Idk i just feel rly bad for dohee. i think she's probably very lonely and isolated. and thats likely why she latched onto hogu in the first place. i do think she genuinely likes him and appreciates his kindness but she is also probably very jaded and thinks that ultimately he wouldnt have cared about her that much if he'd known the truth. and tbh a promise she made months ago in a vulnerable state, isnt necessity the best thing to take as the gospel when she ignored ur texts for 5 months hogu XD.
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Jang
February 17, 2015 at 7:03 PM
I completely agree with your assessment. Her character and the mysteries around her, the layers of her feelings, and how sad she obviously is... is what keeps me coming back to the show.
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Tai
February 17, 2015 at 8:02 PM
Yeah idk I always sympathize with the loner heroines or the shut in heroines or the eccentric socially stunted heroines. (i have a bit more in common with them than i'd like to admit frankly) and Do Hee def falls into that mold. So yeah i have alot of feels for her and I hope I'm not too far off with my theory re Do Hee's reasoning/situation.
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es
February 20, 2015 at 7:05 AM
yeah i agree. a lot of people seem not to care much for her as a character, and only do in relation to ho-gu, but idk, she seems pretty sympathetic to me. she seems so lonely, as you said, and it feels like she literally has no one to lean on. and when you're also pregnant and in danger of ruining a career you've probably made so many sacrifices for, ESPECIALLY when the father isn't around, it isn't hard to imagine how hard of a time she must be going through. she's cold and prickly, yes, but the show hints that she has her reasons, and i'm looking forward to knowing more about her and seeing her grow as a character.
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25 ikram
February 17, 2015 at 11:38 AM
good drama wait for your recap for ep 4
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26 CaroleMcDonnell
February 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM
So love this drama.
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27 Noelle
February 17, 2015 at 6:06 PM
I wonder how they are going to deal with the pregnancy without marriage thing. Hogu himself put it plain; date, marriage, baby. But thats a dream from an old world. I know single mothers don't have it easy anywhere but in SK there is a problem there. I heard stories and a lot is troublesome. I wonder if the writers will touch on any of that and bring those issues to the forefront. Or are they going to smooth it all over with a shotgun wedding?
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28 anotheraddict
February 17, 2015 at 7:08 PM
I'm a sucker for dramas with a lot of heart-- I almost don't even need the romance. How can you not adore a family that makes "Congratulations on your first night out!" banners, and friends who tell you "I love you" over squid when you're feeling blue? I really hope Tae-hee gets a yeoja to say that too. Oh, and Im Seulong's selfie-love scene was hilarious!
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29 coby
February 17, 2015 at 8:49 PM
I laugh for a whole one minute when Kang-chul is doing all those sultry selfies and checking how many likes it received. bwahahaha
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30 jojo
February 18, 2015 at 11:24 PM
Does anyone know the manhwa that is used as a major prop in this drama? Is it even real? I can identify all the others in the shop, but not the one they are using. The cover reads: 엘리제 (ellije).
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31 jomo143
February 20, 2015 at 5:17 PM
Thanks for the recap.
So many funny random things that made me laugh and scare my puppy.
The Polar Bear mascot doing the crawl through the medal photoshoot, Kang-chul posing like an insane person on the beach - Doesn't he remind you of YSH's big brother?
The Squid inking all over everyone, and the squid nightmares that turned into reality. Why did he line them up so neatly?
He put a blanket on them to keep them warm? OMG, I was dying.
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