Answer Me 1994: Episode 11
by girlfriday
Here we go. We knew the pendulum was bound to swing back this way, because, well, that’s what pendulums do, and also Oppa is Oppa. We finally corner Garbage long enough to ask him some questions, and in true Answer Me style, what we find out only opens up countless more questions. It’s a doozy of an episode, perhaps to make up for the fact that we only get one installment this week.
Ratings continue to inch upward with this episode clocking in at 9.3%, with a 10.6% high during the hour friggin’ hour-and-a-half.
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EPISODE 11: “The only way to end a one-sided love”
It’s February in 1995, and we open on a public notice for changes in proper garbage disposal, hur. Dad rushes the local grocery ajumma to hurry it up before he’s late for the opening. He cries as he runs off that it’s her fault if he misses it, and dashes home to the family waiting in the living room for snacks. They’re glued to the television, and soon we see why: the title card for Sandglass’s finale comes on the screen.
The men all swoon at Choi Min-soo, who is now the ideal of every man in Korea, and Dad asks stupidly whether Mom thinks Choi Min-soo or Dad is more handsome. Mom: “Lee Jung-jae!” HAHA. This lady knows what’s up.
Na-jung agrees wholeheartedly, swooning at Lee Jung-jae’s brand of silent, loving-from-afar stalwart bodyguard hotness: “That’s my ideal man!” LOL at Chilbongie side-eyeing her as she says this, practically harrumphing out loud with his eyes. It’s priceless.
Binggeure points out that in the end it’s still a one-sided love, and Dad agrees that the man Go Hyun-jung will remember is Choi Min-soo, not the silent bodyguard who loved her from afar. It deflates Na-jung, and Chilbongie most of all.
We fast-forward to the spring of 1995, and Na-jung sits with her head on Haitai’s shoulder as they look at pictures of Brad Pitt with his Legends of the Fall/Interview With a Vampire hair. Haitai wonders if it’s time to change up his hairdo (Yes, yes it is, Haitai) but Na-jung tells him not everyone can pull off his look. One might even argue not anyone.
Binggeure joins them, noting that they’re always together at school and now they’re joined at the hip at home too.
Na-jung finds an article about the signs that you’re in love, and the group stops at a weird one, that says a woman will show the nape of her neck to someone she likes. Na-jung tests it out, and Binggeure decides the writer must be a pervert.
Cut to: Dad getting all hot and bothered by Mom showing off her neck. Heh.
Yoon-jin holds up breakfast, and when she finally comes downstairs, everyone’s jaws drop in unison. She’s no longer hiding behind a wall of hair, and she’s got it curled and up, out of her face.
Everyone takes turns oohing at how pretty she looks, nobody catching on to the fact that she’s wearing a couple shirt identical to Samcheonpo’s. Garbage strains some brain muscles and declares that something’s different about her, and asks if she’s dating someone.
And to everyone’s double shock, she nods shyly. The trio who read the magazine article about nape-baring all turn to each other with wide-eyed wonder. The group starts to ask who the boyfriend is, wondering how she could’ve dated someone when they were always together in a group.
It’s pretty hilarious that they wore the couple shirts expressly for this purpose, but no one even thinks to mention Samcheonpo as a contender, and then he finally bites the bullet and throws his arm around Yoon-jin.
Chilbongie actually covers his eyes in horror, and Na-jung outright asks, “Why?” Ha. Garbage asks Yoon-jin if she needs money or something, and offers to save her from this obvious arranged contract relationship.
Dad leads the group in cheering for Shincheon Boardinghouse’s first official couple, and Haitai accidentally lets it slip that he always assumed Na-jung would be the first to date in the house. That gets Dad’s future son-in-law radar up, and he looks around the table asking which of the guys it is. Dad, don’t play that game if you don’t have to. Trust us.
Dad’s sweet on Chilbongie of course, while Mom likes Binggeure, and Haitai pouts in a bit of meta that no one is putting him in the race. Mom points out that girls don’t like boys like their father, and Haitai is pretty much Dad the Second.
Haitai keeps blathering on about Na-jung’s love life until she finally has to run over and clamp a hand over his mouth to shut him up, and she ushers him away to school before he does any more damage.
Samcheonpo and Yoon-jin are off in their own world of adorableness, and I love that Garbage smiles sweetly when they’re not looking, but scowls whenever Samcheonpo looks over at him, as if to say Oppa Is Watching. It’s very cute.
The whole discussion about Na-jung’s future husband has Chilbongie in a funk, and he looks over at Garbage, who’s equally ill at ease.
Chilbongie lets his mood get to him during baseball practice that day, mixing up signals and arguing with the catcher (who responds with the middle finger, heh), eventually giving up hits to the other side.
Elsewhere on campus, Haitai runs alongside Na-jung, apologizing profusely for his blabbermouth and swearing that Mom and Dad have no idea that she has a crush on Garbage. He asks if she confessed, and she tells him that she did, but she hasn’t been technically rejected yet because Oppa said nothing.
Haitai is a good friend, and tells her the harsh truth that no response probably means she’s been rejected. He follows it up with an offer to buy her drinks, and she sighs that maybe he’s right, and maybe she’ll let him buy conciliatory drinks after all, ready to face the truth. Haitai: “Just don’t bite me after.”
He tells her that he might be a little late because he has a chance to see his latest crush this afternoon, and Na-jung sighs at his constant stream of one-sided loves that go nowhere. Aw, is this why you two are such good friends?
Na-jung guesses that this one’s got a killer body as per usual, while Haitai insists vehemently that she’s pure and lovable and kind-hearted… and then drools openly at the dance instructor’s pure, kind-hearted chest.
Na-jung heads to her movie club meeting, where she’s told to bring a date to the club’s fundraiser this Friday, or pay a fine instead. Her friend asks her to bring an extra guy from her boardinghouse for her, and Na-jung heads to the payphone.
She pages Garbage, deleting the first message where she accidentally says her sunbae ordered them to bring boyfriends, and then asks if he’ll come. She sits watching her pager until it rings, and lights up to hear Oppa say he can make it. And then he adds that he has something to say to her tonight. Uh-oh.
At home, he’s already delivering the news to the rest of the kids: He’s moving out. He explains that his hyung is due out of army, and that’s where he lived before coming to the house. Apparently his hyung is even more garbagey than he is, and needs Little Bro around to keep him from living like an animal.
Na-jung comes home and the group tells her that Garbage is moving out, and she goes running to her room. Oppa goes after her, and Chilbongie grows stone-faced.
Oppa swears this has nothing to do with her, and says Mom and Dad already knew he was only staying at the house for a year until his hyung was discharged. Na-jung cries, convinced he’s running away because she’s making him uncomfortable, and he promises that it’s not because of that.
She throws her arms around his waist and buries her face in his chest, asking for reassurance that it’s true. He pets her sweetly and swears it over and over, until she finally believes him.
They come back up to join the party, and it’s no time before Na-jung starts winking at Samcheonpo. Yoon-jin starts doing the same thing, and the boys wonder when she picked up a new drunk habit. It sure is less destructive than her other one.
But just as they say it, she launches into her real drunk habit, and tells the whole group that Binggeure got scammed by a producer who told him he’d make a demo if he handed over cash, and Binggeure blew months of part-time pay for nothing. Garbage looks alarmed and asks why he didn’t say anything, and Binggeure swears it was months ago and he already took care of it, more embarrassed than anything.
And then she tells the group that Haitai still hasn’t used his condom, and it’s still tucked away in his room, past its expiration date. Oh noes, don’t jeopardize the roommie bromance!
Samcheonpo starts to drag her away before she ruins anyone else’s night, but she gets one last one in, and it’s the biggie. She yells at Oppa for letting Na-jung’s confession just hang there, and tells him he’s a terrible bastard for not telling her yes or no. Yikes. Chilbongie leaves the room, and Haitai asks Garbage if he wants to grab another drink.
At the local market, Haitai is a godsend and asks Garbage straight-up what his deal is, and if he doesn’t see Na-jung as a woman, or if he has a girlfriend, or if he sold his soul to the devil to get into med school and is therefore wary of forming any lasting attachments (okay, so he didn’t ask that last one, but this is what happens when you make us wonder for eleven freaking episodes).
Garbage asks Haitai if he’s Na-jung’s friend, and Haitai suspiciously takes a beat before answering yes. Garbage sighs that he wishes he had met Na-jung as just a friend and classmate. He explains that their two fathers are closer than brothers, and that when his own father went bankrupt or had heart surgery, it was Na-jung’s father who was always by his side.
The same goes for Dad being there for him and his brothers. In other words, they are irrevocably linked as family and family first. (I wonder if that’s the whole story, but at least it’s a start.)
He sighs that his head is swimming these days. Na-jung keeps coming closer, “And I can’t accept her feelings, but I can’t NOT accept them either.” What… the fuck does that mean, Oppa?
Haitai presses for an answer, which I love him for, and asks again if Na-jung were just a friend he met at school, would he like her and date her then? Oppa thinks on it, and for now we don’t hear his answer.
He pops in to check on Na-jung, who pretends to be sleeping while he lingers in her doorway. He heads out to his balcony lost in thought, and above him on the second floor is Chilbongie, doing the very same thing.
On Friday, Na-jung gets all dolled up for her fundraiser, and totally forgets her friend’s request to bring an extra date for her. She quickly covers it up with lies and then runs to the phone to call Haitai, then Binggeure, and even Yoon-jin (to borrow Samcheonpo for a night, ha). She gets turned down by all.
I’m cringing at the thought that she’s about to call Chilbongie, but she doesn’t, thank goodness. And then to top off her bad day, Garbage calls to say he’ll be late because of class. She rips her stockings on the way out, and then leaves her wallet at the payphone. What a day.
Haitai, meanwhile, is finally getting somewhere with his crush, who flirts openly with him while getting drunker and drunker. He piggybacks her home happily, convinced he’s getting lucky tonight.
Na-jung only realizes she lost her wallet when she gets to the convenience store to buy new stockings, but just then Chilbongie and his friend (the catcher) happen to pass by after dinner.
He pays for her stuff and his friend introduces himself as Chilbongie’s wife. Hee, I can’t be the only one who heard their pitcher-catcher husband-wife explanation and went to a dirty place, right?
Na-jung perks up and asks the catcher if he happens to be free tonight, and scores him as her friend’s plus-one. Chilbongie asks if she’s not going too, and then realizes from her awkward silence that she must be going with Garbage.
She says Garbage will be late, so she’s planning to just hang out here with snacks until he shows. Chilbongie jumps on that and says he hasn’t eaten either (even though he literally just walked out of a restaurant not five minutes ago), and offers to wait with her. Kid, you’re killing me.
He eats some ramyun while Na-jung settles on eggs, and she cracks one on his forehead without warning… and it’s totally raw. Eww. She drips runny egg everywhere, but it does the trick of breaking the ice between them, and they giggle and laugh like the old days.
Na-jung eventually goes to her party and sits at the bar alone, looking up expectantly every time someone walks through the door. Her one beer turns into two beers, and then three, and with each new guy that isn’t Garbage, her shoulders sink a little more.
Garbage sits in his lecture hall dying of impatience and checking his watch every other minute. The delay grows longer and longer until he finally can’t take it anymore and gets up and walks out of class.
He rushes to the bar, and finally the sound of that damned bell is followed by Oppa’s arrival… but by the time he gets there, Na-jung is gone. Oh no.
He stands there in the doorway and thinks back to the question that Haitai asked him. If he were just friends with Na-jung, would he accept her feelings? He waits for what seems like forever before answering…
Garbage: “Yes.” Eeeeeeee! He continues, “If I had met her as a friend, I would’ve confessed first.” Dagnabbit, Oppa, then what the hell is holding you back? He admits that he has feelings too, because otherwise he wouldn’t be torn about it in the first place.
Haitai’s date takes forever and a half to open her door, and he’s nearly undressed by the time they finally make it inside. He throws his arms around her saying that he can’t wait any longer, and he looks up to see her entire family gaping back at them. Ack.
She slurs that they can have a drink with her whole family, and then his pants drop down to his ankles. Hahahahahaha. Poor Haitai. I literally don’t know what’s worse—standing there with your pants down, or wiggling them back on in front of everyone.
Garbage sits in his car outside the house that night, when Chilbongie comes out and knocks on his windshield, wondering what he’s doing home when he’s supposed to be out on a date. Garbage doesn’t explain, and asks to tag along to the park to throw the ball around.
He asks Chilbongie to teach him a few signals between catcher and pitcher, and he shows him a few, including the one for “frontal attack.” They toss the ball back and forth, and Chilbongie shows him how to pitch.
After a few rounds, Chilbongie works up the nerve to tell Garbage that he confessed to Na-jung, knowing that she likes Oppa. He says that just having a one-sided love was so pathetic that he figured even if he gets rejected, it was better to confess.
Chilbongie: “But honestly, it’s your feelings that I’m most curious about. Whether Na-jung really likes you on her own, and if you really don’t have feelings for her—that’s what I’m most curious about. Because the way I see it, that’s not the case.” Omo.
Garbage lets out a breath, and Chilbongie asks, “Na-jungie isn’t in a one-sided love, is she?” Garbage: “And if you’re right? What will you do then?”
Garbage admits that he didn’t think he was allowed to like Na-jung. There were their parents, and her oppa who died. And he thought that maybe he was just confused and it would pass, so he ignored it thinking time would change things. “But then I see her having a hard time on her own…” He knocks the baseball against his chest: “And it hurts my heart.”
“If what hurts Na-jung’s heart hurts mine…then that means I like her, right?” He lifts his head and looks Chilbongie in the eye: “You’re right. Na-jungie isn’t in a one-sided love.” Oof.
Even Garbage admits that it’s Chilbongie who made him wake up, and says he’s going to accept her feelings and confess his own, before he loses her to someone else like a fool. He muses that this will probably be the last time they play catch, and Chilbongie just answers with a fastball that knocks the wind out of him.
Chilbongie: “The game isn’t over. I won’t give up. You could still lose her, like a fool.”
Dad breaks up the tense moment when he arrives swinging a bat, and laughs at Garbage trying to pitch properly. He tells him to pitch one, and tells Chilbongie to play catcher. So Garbage takes the ball and looks up at the catcher, as taught.
And there it is: the signal for frontal attack, with Chilbongie looking straight at him, prepared to go to war for Na-jung’s heart. Garbage says in voiceover:
Garbage: Love and life are a lot like baseball. No matter what dangerous situation lies ahead, no matter how you try to avoid it, you have to win against someone else in the end to have victory. One-sided love hurts the heart, but you do it alone so there’s no other way—whether you win love or get rejected indifferently, the only way to end a one-sided love is to confess it. Only when you choose a frontal attack will you know the outcome. Maybe love is a lot like baseball.
He winds up for the pitch, and we fade into Chilbongie’s scrimmage game earlier. It’s the bottom of the 9th, and Chilbongie’s side is technically winning by two runs despite his earlier missteps. This time when his catcher signals him to walk the batter who scored on him earlier, he complies without arguing.
With the bases loaded, he finally gets the signal to go for it, so he lets one rip… and the last batter hits it into the outfield, and they score four runs on him, winning the game. Aw.
As the runners circle him in the field and Chilbongie watches dejectedly, Garbage continues in voiceover: “And the world is wide and the rivals are many. Maybe love is a lot like baseball.” Wait… are you trying to say that there could be a surprise batter who wins the whole game that you didn’t anticipate? You’re just saying that to mess with us, right?
At home, Na-jung consoles poor Haitai over beers, thinking it a good thing he didn’t end up in jail tonight. He sighs that he’ll never understand girls, swearing them off forever. Na-jung tells him he’ll never get to use his condom that way, and he grumbles that she’s poking a sore spot.
He asks if it’s any better doing it her way, but that just leaves her sighing, and she asks if maybe she’s just not that appealing as a woman—maybe the problem isn’t Garbage, but her?
Haitai turns to her: “If it were me, I’d have dated you. Long ago. If only you and I hadn’t become such good friends… I would have.” Awwwww.
The air gets awkward for just a split-second, until they both laugh it off as a joke. Haitai chides Garbage for not seeing what a great girl she is, and then tells her that Garbage has feelings for her, and would have readily dated her if she weren’t his almost-sister.
But Na-jung laughs in his face, thinking Haitai is just saying it to be nice to her, and no matter how many times he swears it’s true, she gets madder that he’s messing with her and grabs him in a headlock and gnaws on his arm. Haitai’s voiceover adds another layer to the unrequited love cake:
Haitai: But of course there are many more one-sided loves in the world that never get confessed at all. The idiots who know how to get out of one but can’t do it. That’s why one-sided loves pain the heart.
It’s moving day for Garbage, and Mom and Dad send him off like their own son, with a box full of rice and nagging reminders to check the expiration dates on things before eating them, and to stop wearing unmatchy socks.
Dad wonders why Na-jung isn’t showing her face, and Oppa lies that he saw her this morning, and leaves (with a kiss for Dad, hee). Na-jung sits in her room listening to Kim Gun-mo’s “Alone in Love” (posted above), refusing to come out. Garbage gets into the moving truck and smiles down at the massive box of individually wrapped rice from Mom, and the truck pulls away.
We go back to the world’s longest wedding in 2002, and Na-jung’s little brother interrupts Mom and Dad for a bathroom break during the ceremony. Dad sneaks out to help the tyke, who turns out to be Sung Dong-il’s real-life son Joonie, playing his fictional son Joonie. Oh, the meta.
On their way back in, Joonie sees a group photo of the boys and says that his brother-in-law is the handsomest, while Dad thinks he’s the worst-looking. Dad leads Joon away by the hand and he asks, “Dad! Where are we going?” Pfft. I luff that kid.
Back in 1995, Na-jung comes home from a week-long MT with her movie club, and is disappointed that her parents aren’t more enthused at her return. They just tell her that they’ve been waiting for her so they can eat, and add that they already have a new boarder living with them. She asks the group which department he’s in and gets a wall of blank stares back from every last one of them.
And then… out of Oppa’s room… comes Chilbongie. Eeeeeeee!
COMMENTS
These boys. They won’t stop making me swoon one right after the other. Okay, so Oppa. Yay for answers, for starters. Thank goodness the people around him finally got fed up and asked him what the heck his deal is, though I still resent the fact that the other boys had to poke and prod for some real answers. I mean, would it kill you to fess up on your own? I feel like the writers took a misstep with his character in waiting too long for this reveal. At this point the expectation has been built up (because we wanted to trust that he’d have a valid reason for playing ostrich) such that him saying that their sibling/family relationship is his main deterrent feels like a weaksauce answer. That’s a thing you maybe wait five or six episodes to sort out, not eleven. In being made to wait this long, we’ve gone down the path of assuming grandiose theories for why Oppa is so elusive, and when you give us the obvious answer, it’s a little disappointing.
Granted, there’s still lots of time for a twist on the family angst, but today I sort of shook my fist in Oppa’s face, even as I was phew-ing that he wasn’t dead inside and did return Na-jung’s feelings. It was refreshing to hear what he really thought (for once), but it did nothing to make me stop being frustrated at him for the past ten episodes’ worth of denials. I still love Oppa, because how can you not, but he’s also equally infuriating. I want his reason for being so cagey, for letting Na-jung hurt on her own, for making all of these one-sided loves hang in the balance for all this time—to just be better. Why can’t you be better, Oppa? I think if he had just answered Na-jung back when she confessed, even with the denial version of this, I’d be more onboard.
Sigh, I know it’s not all his fault, and Garbage is still the lovable perfect oppa. But I’m not gonna lie about the fact that while he was sitting around sorting out his feelings, Chilbongie won me over with his brand of un-hedgy romance. And now that Oppa has fiiiiiinally stepped up to the plate, I find myself reacting as if he’s encroaching on Chilbongie’s loveline. I know that’s not the order of how things happened, especially not from Na-jung’s point of view, but that’s the result of taking the long way around with Oppa’s feelings—I somehow end up all turned around. And okay, in the interest of full disclosure, I loved Lee Jung-jae over Choi Min-soo, so I might just be hardwired that way.
It’s not like I don’t understand that his dating Na-jung would upset the family order of two households. But to deny feelings that you feel for over a year? There’s denial, and then there’s futility. At least we know the important answers—that he does like her back, and that he feels a responsibility to be an oppa to her and a son to her parents. It’s almost enough to resent Mom and Dad for being so good to him, except of course you can’t resent Mom and Dad for being so good to him. I think overall the bigger reveal will be his confession to Na-jung, and how timing figures into it. Will he be perennially one step too late, or will he finally figure out how to be there at the right time and place to win her heart? Clearly we’re being told that love is not a game where you can declare a winner until you reach the bottom of the 9th with two outs and the last batter has his turn. And based on Chilbongie’s I-will-not-back-down attitude and Haitai’s late-addition regrets at being friend-zoned (sooooo cuuuuute), it’s just the beginning of the fight. Batter up!
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1 primrose
November 24, 2013 at 4:08 AM
I don't know how to.say it, but i just love this series!
And i'm pretty sure haitai has some feelings for na jeong, but.. a (fan)girl can dream, right?
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Nicolette
November 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
It's not a dream. I'm pretty sure it is blatantly obvious that he does.
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Primerose
November 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM
*nodding* I clearly saw it when I re-watched episode 11. But I think the writer won't go this route anymore, like Roggy said, it has been done before in 1997. So the chances that he's the husband is pretty small I think
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Roggy
November 24, 2013 at 4:15 PM
He does! That was an admission right? When he said that some first loves don't get confessed?!?!? I feel for him. And I think I've jumped on board his ship. Coz let's face it, haven't we all been there?
(Also, I'm a sucker for best friends turned couple romances... I mean...REPLY 1997!! But they probably won't go there now aye, it's been done before. Le sigh)
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Primerose
November 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM
Yeah, I am a sucker for best friend-to-lovers stories, too! Yeah, everybody at some point must have some crushes on his/her best friend, personally thinking.
I didn't decide shipping at first, but when I saw Haitai and Na Jeong, it's just too adorable! Haha
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jessica kristine
November 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM
i'm really curious about one thing. why is the family history such a big issue for trash and na jung?
in answer me 1997, it wasn't a big issue for yoon jae and shi won, and they also grew up together and shi won's parents served as yoon jae's (and his brother's) surrogate parents because their parents are dead... is that it? because the other set of parents are dead or non-existent in the drama's time frame?
if say, yoon jae and tae woong's parents were alive, will there also be issues like our families are really close, etc?
from the perspective of a parent, i think i would prefer if i know the guy my daughter is dating/marrying and his family. if i'm friends with the guy's parents, then i will know if they are good people and have raised their son well and will take care of my daughter as their own.
like in the drama, if i know that they are good people and have raised their son well and already takes care of my daughter as a precious one, then i'll be happy if they get together.
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Primerose
November 24, 2013 at 10:57 PM
I think it's because Na jeoung family consider Oppa as really an Oppa for her, and doesn't even have a chance becoming their son in law. Or Oppa feels his family really indebted to them, and chances he hurt their daughter, it would hurt both family's dynamic.
It seems that Yoonjae feels guilty towards his brother more than her family for having a feeling for Shiwon, it means that the family condition is just not complicated as Oppa and Najeoung's family. Imagine, that a family that always help your family, as close as you can imagine, and probably you contribute to their son's death (just a guess!), you really feel guilty and indebted to them, so you could be as comfortable with them but you will not do anything to hurt them, right? Because in case something happened, it might affect your other family member, too. That's what I could understand from Oppa
Or In 1997 i think it's because they're still children at that time so Yoon Jae doesn't fell bad for her family by liking her? Haha, i don't know either.
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Primerose
November 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Just see how Mommy Il Hwa packed him rice for every single meal so that he would simply cook each package. Isn't that a motherly gesture that Mothers usually made when their children living by him/herself?
That's what my Mom did to me, and if a person not related to me, even not an immediate family member, did that, I would regard her as my own mother.
Just imagine liking your own cousin, i think that could help explaining why Oppa think Najeoung's feeling isn't serious.
AAAAH, it made me miss my mom :(
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Belle
November 25, 2013 at 1:37 AM
You say it like that Primerose...
I miss my mom too whaaah :((
Trash_Fan
November 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Primerosa...
Good point...
maybe Oppa thinks that NJ feeling isnt that serious.
He just want to make sure that NJ really love him as a man, not a brother.
I hate trash in this episode... i really wish they're ending up together.
if trash broken heart 1st, than he will be the husband.
if trash will be NJ boyfriend for a moment, then he wont be marrying NJ and becomes the groom.
u know, Kdrama....
:D
Cant wait to see next episode...
karen
November 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM
hhhmmm. *thinking hard* i don't know.
their parents are best friends with each other but while taking a group photo, shi won's parents and yoon jae's parents were matchmaking the kids, the older set (tae woong and shi won's older sister) and the younger set (yoon jae and shi won).
when yoon jae's parents died, shi won's parents did take him and his brother and cared for them as parents. the brothers have their own house but yoon jae eats meals at shi won's place and treats it as his own.
shi won's parents did care for them as sons and they in return regarded shi won's parents as their 'parents'.
- yoon jae bought shi won's parents a car with his first salary even though he has a really old car, and it's at the time that he and shi won are not communicating.
- in 2012, it seems that tae woong and his wife are staying at shi won's parent's house because they are talking about playing board games later.
i don't know why shi won's parents did not have an issue with tae woong dating their older daughter that died, and even with yoon jae dating and marrying shi won.
that's an interesting question.
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Dorina Revamonte
November 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM
maybe because oppa want to prove something about himself like he want to finish his study....i think its the pride that struck him....i still love oppa to be with na jeong and im pretty sure he's the husband...
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coffeenlucia
November 26, 2013 at 5:19 PM
I second your love for this series!!! It's my favorite airing drama right now :D
And I think Haitai has some feelings for Najung, though he said "I would date you if only we weren't so close..." so... I don't think he has much chance as the husband. though I love the relationship he has with Najung right now!
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skelly
November 29, 2013 at 11:09 AM
I just marathoned all episodes until now, and I think this is the best written and acted kdrama currently airing. Kudos to everyone involved.
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2 Ebay
November 24, 2013 at 4:11 AM
I tried not to watch the drama first, just because I want to read first the recap and comment! (Thanks Girlfriday :*)
Wooah, so excited for this episode! More comments later! :)
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3 ck1Oz
November 24, 2013 at 4:12 AM
Chants * not going to read, not going to read *
Thank you, I love your recaps or both your recaps. I can't decide who I like more but this recap is just an incentive for me to finish watching episode 9.
If only I had time to marathon so many episodes. How can the episodes get longer and longer?
Also can't we enjoy the series as it is? For the nostalgia and the feel good moments? For the angst and for the memories when we're in college?
I am avoiding a certain site because all we get is shipping. I mean, I actually enjoy the interactions of a group of friends or strangers becoming friends. Some of my strongest friendships are from college. All the shipping or incessant comments about shipping a certain couple is ? dare I say- overwhelming comments that celebrate a certain scene or certain moment between the characters. At the end of the day, you remember the friends you made while in school, not the nitty gritty details of who liked whom. Or who you like more during that time. Or in this case, for this drama.
9 more episodes to go, am enjoying the songs and the moments. Leaving the shipping camps. Of either side.
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liz
November 24, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Hi, is it soompi website? Or is it Omona ?
I'll avoid Dramambeans comments and Omona because here and there is clear they are CB shippers and is getting annoying. As for soompi, at least there is half half, T-shippers and CB shippers, though here and there seems the same now, it is just about the shippers.
No one talks about their friendships with each other, or about the awesome parents... or their college life. It is all about CB deserves NJ, and who the endgame/husband is.
Shouldn't you guys stop worrying about it? Aren't they all happy and still close in 2013? So doesn't matter who ends with who in 2002.
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ilikemangos
November 24, 2013 at 1:14 PM
I think in all websites chilbong would be the clear winner in a poll but it depends largely on the people that write the comments.
Some of them can be so biased they just fly over my head.
Others are well thought out and semi-objective enough that i consider dwelling upon.
I usually just scroll past the ones that make it seem like it's the end of the world when their ship doesn't work in their favor.
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Cam
November 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Seeing as the friendships pretty much took a backseat in this particular, what with SCP and YJ being officially outed as a couple and even the romantic undertones in Hai Tai and Na Jeong's conversation, it's kind of hard to talk about on if there's not much to talk about in the non-romance department.
And if you scroll down, some people mention some of the very few non-romantic aspects of the show, such as how the sub story of Hai Tai and drunken sunbae should have been handled.
I just find generalizing comments like this just as annoying and condescending, as if by focusing on the romance undermines the intelligence of people that do come up with thought-provoking insights on it. If it bothers you so much, you could start a discussion about it instead of criticizing the fans who enjoy speculating about the husband mystery.
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Reena
November 24, 2013 at 8:24 PM
You're so right. I don't mind when people are talking about the romantic side of the story. That just means that they're emotionally invested in it, and not all comments ar
That Haitai scene. OMG, I just had to fastforward that part because it was too awkward. hahahahaha.
Didn't anyone notice Na Jung's outfit? It's like a Korean version of Alicia Silverstone's outfits in the movie Clueless (come to think about it, the movie was released in 1995)! I love it! Ahhhh~! Memories of my childhood!
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taranewby
November 26, 2013 at 7:32 AM
OMG at that Haitai scene I shrieked and turned the computer on mute - which is my way of dealing with awkward situations on screen (even if all the dialogue is in Korean and I can't understand it).
Zfih
November 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM
I agree Cam. I find it very unfair how liz and the others are overgeneralizing. The drama is good because people love the dad and mom(as mentioned many times), the way they show how funny the characters are with the pride from their cities (as mentioned many times), the relationship between the group of friends, etc... If people were watching it for just the shipping than the ratings for ALL dramas would be monstrous. Don't demean people and their opinions, don't judge a person when the just say "Team T" or "Team CB" as if they are unicelled organisms. Problem with the comments, skip or avoid the website (as you said you would but didn't). Don't rain on other people's parade.
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sk
November 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM
Anyone who thinks "team xxx!!!" is a comment that adds anything to the discussion deserves to be judged.
Katie
November 24, 2013 at 1:30 PM
I agree. By the time I read the 100000 comments it's all Team Chilbong and I'm like ugh, I don't even want to read the comments because it's nothing about the actual drama (actually, that's a lie, there are some comments about the drama lol).
I want there to be more basketball!! WTH? I thought that was what 1994 was going to be about. I'm watching Cool Kiz on the Block and loving the basketball theme. I think the writer has gone off and focused too much on the love lines which I love but the writer is dragging out so many scenes (i.e. Oppa should have confessed AGES ago so we can deal with Na Jung dating other people or having Oppa put up a real fight. We're on episode 11 now people).
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Roggy
November 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM
I KNOW RIGHT?! Where is the basketball ?!?!
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minea
November 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM
LOL. Now that you mentioned it, where IS the basketball? From the way the story is unfolding, it's becoming an altogether different ball game.
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ilikemangos
November 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Haha, i get what you mean. We had alot of that in the beginning of the show but personally i never really connected to it when na jung went crazy over sung min oppa(was that his name?) and basketball.
I think once they got to developing the boarding house members that's where it really resonated with me more.
Same with AM1997, I never really cared about shi won and her obsession with H.O.T (although i found her amusing to watch).
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Z
November 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM
I was wondering that last week. What about the basketball? They totally dropped that. In '97, Shiwon was a H.O.T. fangirl about everything else, no matter what was going on in her lovelife. But then again, she was a horrible student who almost didn't get into college. Najung is an Engineering major at a top university so I guess maybe she got her act together and realized she was never going to graduate if she kept stalking basketball players. Even Yoon-jin seems to have given up her fangirling now that she is in love.
Still it would have been nice to have the basketball theme throughout. I guess they switched it up for baseball. Easier to make use it as symbolism for love, perhaps.
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Joy
December 8, 2013 at 12:40 AM
LMAO yeah. What happened to Na Jeong's favourite celebrity? Did she just forget about him?
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4 mayanne
November 24, 2013 at 4:15 AM
I hate this. He took more than one year and at least three confessions from na Jung to figure out his feelings? That is his choice to drag his feet but he is being terribly selfish and insensitive.
He is fortunate that na Jung still loves him after all this time. Or else he could have lost her. No one waits uncertainly for that long. I mean na Jung could have died, what then?
I Hate that he told everyone first before na Jung. Give her that courtesy at least, as he made her wait that long. Na Jung, after 14 months, is still clueless.
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Saima
November 24, 2013 at 4:30 AM
YES to everything you've mentioned. I definitely don't like oppa the way I used to. He's hurt NJ multiple times and then when he gives attitude ("What are you going to do about the fact that I like NJ!") to CB... I totally went, "huh?! You have some nerve." :S When YJ drunk confronted oppa yet again I hurt for both NJ and CB.
While our boy CB MAY be the second-lead he definitely doesn't behave like one. Thank Goodness, for this. I LOVE that he's so in-sync with what NJ wants and needs. Somebody a few recaps ago mentioned that he would approach pursuing NJ the way he approaches and plays baseball. I for one couldn't be happier about this. Also, am SO glad that NJ didn't insensitively ask CB to be her friend's plus-one and kept sneaking glances while he ate.^^ Right now am cautiously excited for next week's episodes.
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Melissa
November 24, 2013 at 7:35 PM
Ugh, yes, I seriously hate his attitude. Even though I was originally on Team Oppa, I jumped ship to Team Chilbongie long ago because of how inconsiderate Oppa was being. In the scene where Chilbongie confronts him, he was being very rude. Arrogant maybe? He totally gave off the vibe, "Look, she likes me, so this makes me better than you and gives me the right to like her even if I'm not doing anything about it." Ugh. You know there's something seriously wrong with Oppa's attitude/words when it's girlfriday and not javabeans who asks Oppa what the fuck he means.
Chilbongie, on the other hand, is just so sweet and earnest that I can't help but root for him. All those scenes where Chilbongie always puts Na-jung first... D'aww. I know quite a number of viewers are complaining that pretty much everybody is on Team Chilbongie, but when you have one guy who's dragging his feet and always ends up hurting the girl (without making the move to comfort her, may I add), and another guy who's always there for the girl, I think it's pretty obvious why the majority is cheering for the second guy. Let's just hope he wins the game.
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Roggy
November 25, 2013 at 4:34 AM
Amen. Let's hope the nice(r) guy finishes first
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skelly
November 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Yes, I am not "shipping" anyone but I do admit to being very disappointed in Oppa's behavior. He is supposed to be the adult in the room, yet he leaves NJ emotionally hanging for months while he dithers over his feelings and says nothing - that is not honest, it is manipulative and unkind. WHY couldn't he admit that he is conflicted because of the closeness of their families? Does he just assume that she couldn't possibly understand the concept of someone unsure about their emotions and worried about the ramifications?
In many ways, he still treats her as a child. As a youngest child, with a brother and sister quite a few years old than me, I remember all of those stupid dismissive tactics used to keep me in my place and denigrate all of my opinions, and Oppa is a master at them: the cheek pinching, the head pat, the jokey manner, the with-holding of information, the making of decisions without her input.
And then he toyed with Chilbong, who is being sincere and forthright. Oppa's answer to Chilbong's honest challenge was to passive-aggressively "thank" Chilbong for making his wavering intentions clear. They both know that Oppa has the upper hand, with NJ's clearly stated preference, and Oppa rubs it in Chilbong's face - while still not saying ANYTHING to NJ. Really, I find him very selfish and manipulative.
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TIKA
November 24, 2013 at 4:51 AM
yeah he's lucky najung still like him. if i were her i would take chilbong real quick
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mayanne
November 24, 2013 at 5:01 AM
If love is about timing, two people who love each other the same way at the same time...
Na Jung and trash should get together because they love each other the same way at roughly the same time.
But something feels off and maybe love is more than the timing. You can love a person all you want but if that love does not get conveyed because you don't have the courage to confess because you're afraid to be rejected or you're overwhelmed with all the complications that will arise, then the right timing of your love is futile. You cannot move forward and have that loving relationship with that special someone.
I feel strongly about this. In high school, i had a friend (who I liked) who liked another friend who liked him back. He took a long the entire junior year to fret about how it will change things if he courted our friend that by the time he had the courage to confess in senior year, our friend has moved on. She's not in a relationship with someone else but she doesn't love the guy anymore.
They could have been together. If their love wasn't meant to last, then they could have had that sweet high school romance/ first love romance. But no, he was like trash and that cost him the girl.
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AJ
November 24, 2013 at 6:00 AM
I agree with everything you say. Trash waited way too long, and to be honest I am not convinced he really felt anything for her until Chilbongie almost made it a challenge. I am wondering if the show is metaphorically telling us with oppa's move that oppa is losing the chance to have her heart, and is unknowingly giving it to Chilbongie. Now the real battle will start between Chilbongie and Haitai. Who knows, if the drama is trying to throw us off they might even add Binggeure to the mix (though I highly doubt it).
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maya
November 24, 2013 at 7:16 AM
i agree!! i personally started disliking oppa this episode. he is written in a way that everyone likes him and even worship him (he's even giving samchonpo a "watch out not to hurt yoon jin" look, when he doesn't even give yoon jin that much attention anyways..) it's like he's too perfect and loved, basically when he confronted chill bong about na jeong (or the other way around) he was being rude to him.. so i'm happy chill bong is fighting for her..
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azurduyy
November 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Indeed. I'm so happy I'm not alone thinking this way. I mean, I'm tired of Oppa's family angst, and he's hurt Na-jung what? 4 times now? He should be honest with her, if he respects/loves her so much; even rejecting or asking her to be cautious would be way better than being cryptic and going the noble idiocy route. I'm speechless with him.
Na-jung is stuck with her first love, like a flailing fish grasping for air, and is losing her spunk with him just because he's a damn coward who cannot be clear. Who he thinks he is to make this silent hero thing when the one that's hurting the most is her?! What is he waiting for?! Either tell her yes or tell her no, stop dragging your feet.
"I am not convinced he really felt anything for her until Chilbongie almost made it a challenge" (4.4 Ashley)
YES. He was so rude in his """confession""" I wanted to punch him in the face. "I guess I like her" SHUT UP. He had her waiting while he played around and avoided her until another guy stepped in, what a jerk.
Agh, I'm so angry. Please, Show, be good in episode 12 so that I don't hate you. You're doing well otherwise, but this relationship is driving me crazy.
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irugnotmis
November 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM
I have the same feeling about this. If Trash and Chibongie are so opposite in the face of confronting love, then maybe the writer's making a point that courage, more so than timing, is vital.
I initially felt Oppa's romantic affection for Na jung but the more he drags his feet, the less I feel that connection. I think him leaving the boarding house will give himself some time to sort things out and he'll come back with a new attitude and stir up the pot. Of course, that's if Chilbongie doesn't beat him to it claiming Na Jung's heart first!
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momosa
November 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Note that it is not even exactly an admission. Oppa answered Chilbongie's question with another question. He still has doubts.
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Cam
November 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM
LOL Oppa's such a scumbag. Someone suggested making Scumbag Oppa memes and some of the ones the person came up with was pretty hilarious:
Admits he likes you...to everyone but you.
Says he'll confess his feelings and fight for you...and moves out the next day.
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dramaddict
November 25, 2013 at 3:05 AM
trash statements about najung is too ambivalent and ambiguous... most people are interpreting it as trash being concerned about the two families' history and dynamics as his main reason for his inaction... but are convinced that trash likes najung romantically...
but here's a theory... what if trash does NOT like najung romantically (and just in a platonic way or familial sense). it is just that he can not reject najung BECAUSE of the two families' history and dynamics - the reasons trash listed to haitai could be what makes trash compelled to 'like' najung, he feels indebted that he thinks he should give najung what would make najung happy... and since najung likes him, he had to like her back.
can not believe that... 1. najung confessed but trash took it as a joke; 2. yoonjin drunk announced that najung likes trash; 3. najung was visibly affected that trash picked yoonjin over her that she had to ask trash the same question again just so she could have a different answer; and 4. najung confessed again during the first snowfall.
and trash's excuse is he is thinking?! the whole damn time?! if trash is 'thinking' and sensitive and whatnot... why can't he see that najung is being hurt by his inaction?!
and episode 11 is NOT a good episode for trash... 1. yoonjin drunk announced that trash is a bad guy for not giving a clear answer; 2. haitai questioned him about his feelings for najung; and 3. chilbong asked him also about his feelings for najung. he's been thinking for so long, and the best trash could do is to give ambiguous ambivalent answers?! AND trash gave an answer (if you can call it that) to at least two people - unfortunately neither one is the right person who should hear it, which is najung.
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5 disfigurine
November 24, 2013 at 4:17 AM
Omg Chilbong ): I'm only rooting for you 1000% I don't really understand oppa's reason for not accepting Najeong's feelings. I knew the writers would make Chilbong a catalyst for Oppa to accept his feelings but I still have have hope that Chilbong is the one :) the last scene filled me with glee. Where can I find myself a Chilbong?
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salt n' pepper
November 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM
Let me know once you find out where. I want to sign up for a Chilbong, too! ^^
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dumzkeeee
November 24, 2013 at 7:57 AM
let's go together! :D
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gochickengo
November 24, 2013 at 12:35 PM
yeah i want one too!!:)
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Perevell
November 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM
Oh no, I want one Chilbong too! Damn, why are guys like these so hard to find these days?
I sort of understood oppa-ya's feelings. He's just probably feeling torn. Keep family peace, or well, mess it up abit? He probably didn't know what's going on with his feelings either, after all, he knew Najeong for so long..(or I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt because I love him so much..)
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6 bogosipeoyo
November 24, 2013 at 4:21 AM
love this episode sfm! funny (samcheonpo-yoonjin scences, those lovebirds!) and at the same time genuinely heartbreaking.
they're all hurting but chilbong gets hit the most in this episode. our boy is one the losing side at this stage of the game. oh the heartbreak! i feel you chilbong!
imagine having to hear your rival that he's going to do actions now because he feels threatened by your presence. damn that's harsh, especially now he's sure najeong's love isn't really one-sided as she thinks it is.
the tide seriously shifted to oppa right now. and as person who is slightly leaning more towards chilbong, i seriously felt a pang in my heart.
that confontration scene reached 12% in ratings! no wonder why because it was so intense. (i was sobbing ok....)
p.s. did y'all get the vibes that haitai likes najeong too?
the scene where oppa asked him, "you see najeong as a friend, right?" his expression changed while muttering "yeah.. a friend" and also when they were talking inside the room, he sounded so genuine when he said he would totally date najeong plus that monologue of his about one-sided love.
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Nanata
November 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM
I also got the feeling that Haitai has some feelings towards Najung. but, as much as I love Haitai, I would want Chilbong to be happy with Najung T_T
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Patch
November 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM
I'm pretty sure Haitai is just a friend who is feeling out of luck love wise and is looking a his friend and wondering What IF but he could also be the dark horse who comes out of nowhere in the back 4 episodes and wins it all.
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minea
November 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Although I LOVE Haitai, I hope he doesn't get thrown in the Najung love line mix later on (one broken heart is more than enough).
And I'm really digging Haitai's friendship with Najung at this point. It's not very often that I see a friendship between a girl and a guy that's platonic (at least, that's what I think of their friendship) which when you come to think of it, is totally ironic, considering that Haitai is the one whose head is always in the gutter.
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7 Jossy
November 24, 2013 at 4:25 AM
I just had to comment.
I've swung back into Oppas corner!
and this ep got quite a few LOLs out of me, so good :)
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8 doctordrama
November 24, 2013 at 4:26 AM
I love this show!!! I don't mind the length because I just love every minute of it. Team Chilbongie all the way! I mean how can you not go for someone who just goes straight and fights for the woman he likes?! Why does Chilbongie need to be the catalyst for his now change of heart to pursue her? Her own person and her confession were not enough to really push him to do something?! There is something amiss in that. I also felt that Oppa's reasons just fell flat. I feel like it is not a good enough reason to ignore her for that long. It's not like they are actually blood related. Unless there's a cultural thing that I don't get here and there will be more explanations revealed later on to justify his hesitation. But I just feel like his reason for not responding to her right away and feeling conflicted is just not good enough for the hurt he is causing her. Oppa's inaction is definitely not winning him any brownie points.
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mayanne
November 24, 2013 at 4:40 AM
I agree. If na Jung has the courage to confess at least three times, more if you count Yoon Jin's drunken monologues, why couldn't trash? Na Jung also had the family connections and brother-sister issue like him.
If na Jung figured out she likes him, both when he was single and he was dating, why can't he figure out if he likes na Jung? It took 14 months before he realized things... What if na Jung died then? She wouldn't know that she was also loved back.
I take offense that he needed a rival, chil bong, to decide to confess. What if na Jung is the female version of hai tai, the one that gets friend-zoned all the time and she ended up not being courted until she's 30? Without a rival to go against, then he wouldn't figure out his feelings and confess to na Jung? What the eff....
He's fortunate na Jung is still alive and still has feelings for him. Tpbut things could have been much different, that's all I'm saying.
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Ahihihi
November 24, 2013 at 4:41 AM
Agreed. His reason was very superficial. It shouldn't have taken Najung 11 episodes of confession. Wouldn't it be better if they got together cause the family would finally be a true family? I don't get it. They've been together for years and he knows her inside out, I just don't think a simple argument would mess their relationship or both families.
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sancheezy
November 24, 2013 at 6:02 AM
in my opinion all of oppa reason to not answer nj is actually reason why he have to said 1st to nj
i mean, you've been indebted enough in case of your father, then his daughter love you, you can give good memory to her (that's i normally think) - and you actually love her, so there's no wall between them
if they family closed enough, well that's great, how many people dragged married because their family is not match
some said that close relation also the one that caused arranged marriage, the family close, the child know each other well so the parents will be happy, it's not like nj parents the one who raised oppa as her brother, she clearly know who he is
then meeting as sibling, i don't think so, you meeting as a friend at first, you are the one who make that boundaries so even nj doesn't feel the same,nj feel it since both of you is kid
you also just moved 1 years,
why you have to thinking so much, she will accepted you anyway,
so in my humble opnion, there's no reason oppa should not confess and date nj,- he just hide because that make him comfortable
i think he should confront his feeling so he'll know what's the answer,
i feel bad nj cause she loved him so much, that make me guess oppa didn't think that much when he heard nj confession,
if she brave enough, why you have to step back
anyway i love how chilbong treat nj, so caring and make her comfortable around him
CB did better than oppa so far,
and i prefer CB side, while bother make another ep in otp is already love and know each other
peace ^^
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0live13ranch
November 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM
I agree X1000 times. I loved Oppa character, but then the writer ruined him for me by making us viewers wait for 11 episodes to understand him. And you're right to the point saying his reason feels flat. I personally prefer Chilbongie's straightforward and earnest attitude. He confessed to NJ, constantly fight for her heart. He put himself out there even though knowing he would get hurt. I just can't help falling in love with his character :)
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9 paroles
November 24, 2013 at 4:30 AM
Am I the only one who's rooting for Haitai from the start?
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AJ
November 24, 2013 at 6:07 AM
Nope, I cant help it but I am a Son Ho-Jun fan so I guess it was inevitable.
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Kaybee
November 24, 2013 at 9:42 AM
Me too! Actually I like all of them but I believe it is Haitai who is the husband.
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olivebato
November 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM
MEEEEEE. I can't help it; Haitai's been my favorite from the start. I thought he would end up with Yoonjin (another favorite), but since he didn't, I totally want him to end up being Najung's husband. They're at this sort of "best friends"-ish place right now (always hanging out together, talking openly to each other about their love lives/embarrassing moments, etc.)... I think it would be so cute if they got together. Not to mention, the best friends to dating scenario is not an uncommon one in real life--I'm sure we've all seen a fair amount of couples get together that way.
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10 KDaddict
November 24, 2013 at 4:32 AM
Haitai's drooling over his crush's pure hearted chest, having electricity run thru his body when he drinks with her, and trying to get undressed before she opens the door, only to come face to face w her whole family, had me laughing so loud I could be heard over in the next lane! Then his pants dropped! TQ Reply 1994 for the biggest laugh in a long time.
Trash said a bunch of words in answer to Haitai and Chilbong's Qn. But I still have no BD idea what his problem might be. He has loved her for a year; she is in love w him. And their families are close. Where is the problem?
I wouldn't want a guy who is willing to put a girl thru that kind of hurt while he mulls over the ramifications of what their love affair would mean to their two families' dynamics! Totally not.
Joonie says his BIL is the most handsome in the pic. Dad says he is biased towards his BIL, n that to Dad, his BIL is the least handsome. That should rule out Chilbong, no? Who would call Chilbong LEAST handsome? Plus Chilbong is Dad's favorite. That worries me.
On the other hand, CB takes off his sweater, and walks into the room at the end of the corridor, the master BR, to take a nap. So, they r just going to keep messing with us, till the end.
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Saima
November 24, 2013 at 4:36 AM
Am thinking CB in the future plays for appa's rivals (OB - i THINK his intro mentioned it). Didn't appa mention when CB was introduced to us or thereabouts that he'd be his lifelong rival if he played for them.
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Abby
November 24, 2013 at 4:40 AM
Or the Dad's statement could also mean he has resentment towards the groom because he's stealing away his precious daughter, no? Just basing it from how he reacted when he walked Najung down the aisle :P
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KDaddict
November 24, 2013 at 6:02 AM
TQ for both thoughts. Glad not to have to feel hopeless on behalf of CB.
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Waiting
November 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM
Yes, I was thinking the same, that the unfavorable comment towards CB meant he was out. BUT, there is a picture of the bride and groom to the left and he is tall and broad shouldered...that really doesn't fit most of the boys including Oppa - it seems like it could be CB or someone else entirely (please freaking NO!).
Also, I thought it was funny how Bingeurre became another red herring (lease let it be a red herring!)...
He was at the center of the photo with both Oppa and CB oddly out on the ends (unless they did size order with smallest in center). I recalled back to the scene around the table where Dad was attentive to CB and, in turn, Mom aid special attention to Bingeurre.
I am still on the CB ship but I do worry that we may see CB's stand-up nature he has consistently demonstrated (exception - clocking that smarmy player in the head with the baseball...brain trauma is not something to mess with, just saying). I hope the writer does not have him do stupid, back-handed things in the name of this now love battle for NJ. Oh please, oh please do NOT make CB into a jerk.
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Manin
November 24, 2013 at 6:51 AM
Yeah I noticed both of them on the side of the picture as well, which seems odd if either of them was the husband. But then again this show loves to mess with you.
I don't think they would make CB into a jerk, at least I strongly hope not. I was so unsure about which team I was on swinging back and forth between him and oppa, and then you had his hearth broken face in ep 8 (? I think that was it) and the next epsiode made me panicy because to much hinted at him being the husband. So guess the guy won me over :p
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Manin
November 24, 2013 at 6:56 AM
"CB takes off his sweater, and walks into the room at the end of the corridor, the master BR, to take a nap."
See this would seem like a sign, if not for a couple of things: 1)we don't know if it was the master bedroom.
2) It's the Reply frenchise, these writters love, and are good at, messing with us.
3) a conversation I had with a friend where she said "if we are good friends, and my friend is visiting and is tired, I would let him/her sleep on my bed. No problem" (she is Chinese, and yes not the same culture but it made me take that scene with an extra pinch of salt)
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nomad
November 24, 2013 at 7:53 AM
Haitai's scene...OMG, were there words for it? I laughed soooo hard!!!!
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Sabrina Lim
November 24, 2013 at 7:58 PM
one reason why the close r/s between Oppa and Na-Jung's families is an obstacle is cos if oppa/na-jung are together in a romantic r/s, and they argue or in worst case scenario, break up...it will be very awkward for both sides. esp the parents.
that may be why he stalls. cos if they are to really enter a romantic r/s, they have to be pretty sure they are in it forever, if they don't want to jeopardise the close friendships between the parents.
cos being a parent, you'd side with your child. even if it means losing a friend you love for life.
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kdfan
November 25, 2013 at 5:27 AM
If Trash accepts NJ's confession, i think he feels the burden of a love that has less free will. Being treated as a son by the family more than his own, would he dare unlove her if things dont work out in future. And theres no turning back to siblinglove either, is it worth taking the risk. Thats y he said if they met as friends he wouldnt need to think twice.
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11 Kit
November 24, 2013 at 4:32 AM
Oh man. The amount of heartbreak in this house is killing me. (There's so much cute as well though urgh. Dohee is adorable.)
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12 ss
November 24, 2013 at 4:33 AM
frustrated that there's only one episode for this week. and episode 12 looks promising and interesting!! urgh. i'm a kpop fan and i loovveeee exo, but i'd trade reply for mama anytime!
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Jjane
November 24, 2013 at 8:13 AM
me too!! i was sooo frustrated that they didn't air reply and as much as i enjoyed watching mama, nothing compared to the thrill i get with reply >.<
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13 Stuart
November 24, 2013 at 4:33 AM
I was disappointed that the writers presented Haitai's attempted date rape (for such it was it was) as something to laugh at, but other than that, it was another solid episode, drunk YJ being as adorable as ever, and Oppa/CB faceoff a real classic.
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Peridot
November 24, 2013 at 4:46 AM
Yeah, I didn't know how to feel about that scene. But in popular conceptions of rape, many people think that the woman has to put up a fight, scream, etc. Taking advantage of an intoxicated girl does not often come into the picture. I was a little disappointed, but if Haitai's thoughts are a reflection of the thoughts of real people, perhaps he thought there was nothing wrong and that his sunbae was "into him."
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 4:50 AM
I think you are right.
So it is nice that the writers showed HT fail.
He was rightly ashamed when her whole family caught him in the act doing what he was going to do to their precious daughter. He should have been ashamed even if they weren't there!!
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Stuart
November 24, 2013 at 4:51 AM
It certainly seems that the writers understood their target audience, judging by how many people found the whole scene funny. I'm a man, but I found it offensive, if either party is not in a fit state to give or withhold consent, that's not something I find amusing.
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Peridot
November 24, 2013 at 8:01 AM
You're right. It might be tempting and easy to laugh at that scene but that scene (and its larger significance) is also troubling. I've seen similar scenes in other dramas. Even if that sunbae had been flirting with Haitai in the past, she was clearly too drunk to make a decision when he took her home. Again, I am thinking that Haitai's opinion was meant to be a reflection of an unfortunate reality when it comes to popular understandings of rape. Now, what was the intentions of the writers and director (which add another layer to the scene)? Was the shaming of Haitai in a comical way meant to be a less direct way of highlighting something wrong in the situation? I am not sure. And that might be the truly unfortunate thing. Sorry, was all of that clear? Sometimes (often, actually, lol) it is hard to articulate what comes into my mind.
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Peridot
November 24, 2013 at 8:02 AM
*Correction* "what were the intentions...."
mayanne
November 24, 2013 at 4:49 AM
Thank you for this. I found the scene funny but i just realized after reading your comment that it was a serious situation.
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KDaddict
November 24, 2013 at 6:00 AM
He told NJ that his crush had been coming on to him numerous time the whole time they were drinking.
Was she or wasn't she?
I'm glad she led her to a house full of ppl.
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KDaddict
November 24, 2013 at 6:09 AM
It's funny becos he is totally humiliated. Serves him right. The funny is in him being made a complete fool of.
If the ep had shown him succeeding, it'd be what you say.
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ilikemangos
November 24, 2013 at 8:14 AM
I was thinking the same.
I'll just take it that the grand humiliation in front of the family as the writer's way of punishing those that are as thirsty as haitai. Ha.
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14 Denali
November 24, 2013 at 4:34 AM
Ever since seeing Haitai and NaJung - or was it Son HoJun and Go Ara being all chummy in the park in ep6, I have been rooting for this underdog loveline. ^_^
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15 Ahihihi
November 24, 2013 at 4:38 AM
I know the reason. He's confused because he is gay and his first love is Najung's brother. BAM!
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Nanata
November 24, 2013 at 4:48 AM
LOL! Epic!
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TIKA
November 24, 2013 at 4:54 AM
i love youu hahaha
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Pinki
November 24, 2013 at 5:11 AM
Loved ur comment, that seems the only logical explanation of oppa's behavior toward najung as well as binggure. He's toying with everyone's feelings and so my initial like for him is about to change into serious dislike. Also, I am seriously rooting for bongie, hope he succeeds, because till now I've never ever fallen for the second lead, and would like to keep that record.
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dramaddict
November 24, 2013 at 5:30 AM
never did root for the second lead character in any kdrama too...
Team Chilbongie! /
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Jjane
November 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM
me too!! Team Chilbongie all the way
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Min
November 24, 2013 at 5:34 AM
I don't think he's toying with Binggure he's just trying to be a good older brother.
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16 Peridot
November 24, 2013 at 4:43 AM
Thank you for the recap :). This is my favorite show this season. I love the simple style of its story-telling and it's slice-of-life episodes. I've decided to not get on any ship and I think it's for the best. Who knows...the one who has been the most quiet, the one who has not even been a contender in the minds of fans--Haitai--may be the one who wins the girl's heart in the end. Whoever it is, I hope that the choice feels natural and not forced. And here's to hoping that the drama stays fresh and does not drag during its latter portion.
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17 Pv
November 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM
it keeps getting better and better
i love both the reply series, but 1994 is far more interesting because everything is so unclear
one does't know how the plot will turn out? i am simply waiting for more curve balls in this show, got me hooked
now have to wait another week for new episodes, so far away its killing me :(
May the best man win :D
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18 A.
November 24, 2013 at 4:46 AM
Sorry to be irrelevant but if they really make that Miso girl Chilbong's fallback... I won't watch this again :(
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purplee
November 24, 2013 at 7:06 AM
Same sentiments here! Her mere presence irritates me. I'd rather have Chilbongie alone in the end than make her his rebound.
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fanjing
November 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM
oh my gosh yeah! She's just not good enough for Chilbong.
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Beatty
November 24, 2013 at 12:32 PM
maybe they'll just use her at some point to make NJ open her eyes to CB. jealousy can do that;)
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19 jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 4:46 AM
Thanks for the recap.
I agree with you on Oppa being too late, and I wonder if it was a mistake or on purpose? He has seen her as a sister for so long, can he make the jump to lover? Meaning since long-term love IS all about timing, however awesome the Oppa/Na-jung romance could have been, Oppa's reluctance to speak his heart has ruined it. Life is like that. Mosty life is where things get screwed up rather than where things work out perfectly.
I feel the same for CBie, though. His hot white crush may end up burning out before NJ can really appreciate it. If his competitiveness clicks in and takes over his heart, he may stop seeing NJ as a love interest, and more of a win. He is sweet as pie right now, but will he keep his head and follow the signs when things get rough?
Haitai calling her Chingu makes me think HE is the only one who sees NJ in the right light. She isn't a little girl or a goddess, she's a colleague and a buddy. Their slow cook relationship doesn't have drama or intensity now, but if they continue to be close, their like can blossom into love.
Don't mark my words. Fact is, I think I will die if CBie messes up and loses. I can't get his face looking at Oppa out of my thoughts for a second. He won't give up, and I love him for that, but he has to be so careful if he wants to stay in the game till the END.
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 10:51 AM
I did a pome for Haitai!
http://yobosayo.wordpress.com/2013/11/24/reply-1994-haitais-turn/
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20 wulan
November 24, 2013 at 4:50 AM
i understand oppa's reasoning...with the family being closed n they are like siblings, probably he's also wonders if he really sees na jung as a woman or just a sister.
when dad n mom asked who na jung will date, they did't even include oppa in the category because in their view both are siblings hence the impossibility for oppa n na jung to have romantic feelings.
as i love oppa so much, am afraid cb moving in will turn the tides n na jung gets a change of heart.
the frustration with oppa mainly lies with how the writer depicts him..if the writer have oppa spilled out his heart in earlier eps, we'll not be frustrated with him.
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milk97
November 24, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Agreed with that.
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21 loveyoumomo
November 24, 2013 at 4:50 AM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
I've been waiting for this recap its seems like forever. Oppa finally said something! Thanks for the recap. Off to watch the episode now :) The previews had been bugging me for a couple of days and now a whole week until episode 12. This drama addiction..sigh. So good and so bad at the same time!
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22 Karen
November 24, 2013 at 4:51 AM
Does anyone know who plays the guy with the red jacket in the film club. Help!!!! If anyone likes to check, it's at about 25 minutes of the show. Thanks. :)
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 4:58 AM
That's Yoon Jong Hoon as Kim Ki Tae. He was the guy who went to the rock cafe and works with NJ at the burger joint...which makes me wonder how she couldn't remember his name, but then, it was 20 years when they reviewed the wedding vid.
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23 fey
November 24, 2013 at 4:59 AM
I am fully on Chilbongie's side. I lurved the fire in his eyes, and how he just cuts crap and is willing to do almost anything to get what he wants. I loved that he is so single-minded in his pursuit to win Na Jung's heart. I know it is not a question of 'winning' or 'losing', and I know it is much more than that to him. His love may not run as deep as Oppa's, but it is sincere and he is starting to catch up.
I am squeeing forever at the scene where Na Jung cracked a raw egg on him. I also really liked that he is reluctant to pay Baseball manager for his dinner (cross fingers that their relationship do not evolve into something more), but happily paid for the stuff Na Jung wanted to buy.
ALSO. His cold expression when having a face-off with Trash Oppa was just intense. Trash Oppa seemed a little intimidated, and this talk served as a catalyst to pull him up his feet and stop being passive.
ALSO. How friggin awesome was that Chilbongie moved in to Na Jung's house? The dramagods are listening to my prayers. I foresee a lot of CUTE otp moments between Chilbongie and Na Jung in the upcoming episodes. I am Chilbongie-Najung biased, as you can alr probably tell.
This episode was by far the best episode from AM1994, imo. I loved everything about it. Except for the part where Haitai wanted to take advantage of that drunk lady, which was just a small dent on an otherwise PERFECT episode.
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24 coby
November 24, 2013 at 4:59 AM
Finally! 1) The recap is here! 2) The subs came out earlier than the usual 3) We get to know Oppa's feeling so.. let's drop the gay angle please. 4) Chilbongie moved to the boarding house!
I was glad that Oppa did not tell Chilbong to take care of her or something... that he is giving away Na-jung because it will be such a cliché .
Chilbong is playing basketball now.. guarding Na-jung by moving in to the boarding house!
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25 joycekang
November 24, 2013 at 5:03 AM
I love Sung Dong Il's comedy when he sees Yoon-jin's transformation -- his anger voice getting progressively smaller & awe-struck, LOL. And yay for Chilbongie not giving up! I'm so looking forward to the developments now that he's staying at the boarding house.
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26 show pls
November 24, 2013 at 5:04 AM
Thanks for the recap, girlfriday. This episode really was a doozy. So much to process!
On a side note, I love how Dad was so petty at the very beginning of this ep - getting peeved at the Convenience Store Ahjumma and leaving her freezer door open. LOL.
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27 Abby
November 24, 2013 at 5:05 AM
There were a lot of heartbreaking revelations here but the one that broke my heart the most unexpectedly is when Najung said "Is there something wrong with me? Am I not attractive? Doesn't anyone see me as a woman?"
It made me realize how Chilbong doesn't ever come across her mind at all. That every effort he put forth before to relay his feelings to her, that confession, that KISS even! didn't amount to anything whatsoever. I understand how this stems from her fixation with Oppa but it's just too much.. it's as if CB didn't exist.
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fey
November 24, 2013 at 5:09 AM
I hate that these questions arised from her because she felt insecure around Oppa. Like, she don't feel she's good enough to him.
A contributing reason why I don't ship them both.
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 5:12 AM
I know. I had the same thought. What is he, chopped kimchi?
Why does she THINK he likes her? Maybe the reason is why she won't take him seriously. Maybe she thinks it is because she makes him laugh, which doesn't feel romantic to her.
Also, she told nobody that CB confessed, she couldn't reveal that to HT in that conversation.
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TP
November 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM
When Chilbongie's confession was never revealed, I felt very bad for him. This is the guy who has been open to his feelings, and ironically nobody even notices. It worries me because it almost seems like no one is on his side, when he was the one who confessed in the first place? Did Na Jung block the confession out of her head?
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dashi
November 25, 2013 at 2:59 AM
This.
I noticed that while the 'whole' gang know of Oppa and Jeong (Thanks Yoon Jin) nobody has any inclination about Bong and Jeong as neither of them have told anyone. In fact the only person with a foot in the right direction is Appa but he has no idea :P
I want Yoon Jin to find out. Now that Bong moved in, I want Yoon Jin to notice. Then, I want Yoon Jin to get stone drunk!!!
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prongss
November 26, 2013 at 12:48 AM
lol, Yoonjin finding out would probably be for the best xD
28 Fishy
November 24, 2013 at 5:06 AM
I have a question. I haven't had the chance to watch this show, so I'm a bit confused with the housing arrangement. The new boarder, is it Chilbongie? I always thought Chilbongie initially a boarder from the start, because, you know, he's always around. He's there when they have breakfast, and he even slept next to Na Jung when the group sleeping together. Or was it because he's Binggeure's cousin?
Haitai being the new addition to the love triangle (now rectangle?) is ouch, well it is cute and Haitai might have the chance to get Na Jung considering the show's ever changing nature (Garbage today! Chilbongie next week!).
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Arianne
November 24, 2013 at 5:29 AM
He sleeps over a lot but he was not officially part of the boardinghouse kids until this episode.
- he slept over the first time to help his cousin unpack but it got quite late so he ate breakfast there too.
- then he stayed over for a few days because his mom is on honeymoon and his dad is on a business trip.
Other times, he stays there for a few hours but he sleeps at his house or at the baseball team dormitory. But I think there are also several times that he slept over...
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Fishy
November 24, 2013 at 5:43 AM
Thank you so much for your explanation, Arianne! :)
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Ssan Dongque
November 24, 2013 at 6:16 AM
Nope, Chilbongie initially is not a boarder in their house, but because of his cousin, Binggrae, he got to spend some night in that house. Plus the fact that Na Jeong's dad likes him so much. ahhh.. team Chilbongie all the way. :)))
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Fishy
November 25, 2013 at 3:03 AM
That is so generous of Na Jung's parents to let Chilbongie stay over and even had meal in the house. Thank you for explaining! :)
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29 8001spring
November 24, 2013 at 5:09 AM
"But I’m not gonna lie about the fact that while he was sitting around sorting out his feelings, Chilbongie won me over with his brand of un-hedgy romance. And now that Oppa has fiiiiiinally stepped up to the plate, I find myself reacting as if he’s encroaching on Chilbongie’s loveline"
Trust me, you're not the only one. I'm starting to feel they should have just kept this to the normal 16 episodes instead of dragging on for 20 because frankly, Oppa's inactions/ passivity is wearing down on me.
Oppa-yah, you're a good rival! Come on step up and make the race count!
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30 jw
November 24, 2013 at 5:14 AM
Team Oppa. But I'm also liking Haitai >.<
Well at least we got the sweet moments from YJ and SCP :) Do Hee is so pretty!
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31 aly
November 24, 2013 at 5:16 AM
oppas reason was such bullshit that i can't even stand him at this moment of time. how did he go from being my main shipper to the guy that is this frustrating. you fell like you can't be with her but then you can't fully reject her because basically you don't want her to move in. it's so selfish oppa, and that makes me sad because i didn't think you were that selfish. i also didn't appreciate how he was talking to chilbongie during that little throwing session of theirs. chilgbongie has been so freaking patient with those two and now that he's finally tired of it he gets talked to like that with oppa. saying he made him realise. what a load of crap. worse yet haitai is becoming a contender. it's frustrating that people are even shipping him with her and that it might even happen. they do not go together in that sense at all!! i will be so pissed if he ends up being that husband. but with her dad saying that hes the least best looking in the picture it scares me that means that chilbongie is out because he has always favoured him the most. if that's the case i am gonna be so damn heartbroken. chilbongie deserves to be with her after everything he has been through. please let it be him :(
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bigwink
November 24, 2013 at 5:39 AM
AMEN! Every single word, amen!
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TIKA
November 24, 2013 at 6:57 AM
chilgbongie has been so freaking patient with those two and now that he’s finally tired of it he gets talked to like that with oppa. saying he made him realise. what a load of crap. <--- THISS
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Juliang
November 24, 2013 at 8:03 AM
YES! I got headache too.
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32 joycekang
November 24, 2013 at 5:17 AM
And I hope that lost baseball game isn't some sort of sign that if Chilbongie goes head-on (with Oppa), he'll end up losing :( I sooo want a happy ending for Chilbongie. And I do agree with some previous comments above -- I'm not liking Na-jung's version of herself when she's hung up over Oppa.
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM
I considered this, too, that CBie's inability to compromise may be his downfall. But, it is only ep 11, and our boy is still learning. Remember the coach commented he hoped that CB and his catcher could figure out how to work together to succeed despite both being stubborn guys.
Once he figures out when to back down and when to go all out, he will more successful in everything. Hopefully with love, too.
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33 bigwink
November 24, 2013 at 5:19 AM
Oh please writers.. don't make Chilbongie one of those typical pushy second lead. Please do not go there!!!
Phew.. I've been refreshing this site to know your view about this episode!!!
This is what I love about reading Dramabeans recaps, simple yet detailed, and full of insights!! Like Haitai's hesitation before answering Oppa that yes he is Najung's friend... I didn't noticed that before.
Thanks for the great recap!
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Waiting
November 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Amen! I said the same...let's not mess with CB and make him change into a bad version of himself. I like my CB sweet.
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34 bluegrass
November 24, 2013 at 5:23 AM
I was reading the recap and even before i had a chance to completely understand the vivid character frequency it was over.I'm just waiting for the next episodes.Love this show.
Love,
Bi
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35 weallwantpizza
November 24, 2013 at 5:23 AM
Glad to hear Oppa said he likes NJ, but sadly he said to the boys that likes NJ too...
But Ohh! I reeeaaalllyy want to hug CB almost in every scene in this episode.
And by Dad said that NJ's husband is the worst looking, I guess it wouldn't be CB right? *cries*
And Haitai, I have a feeling that he's really the one. We always saved him as the plot twist, right?
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36 kelinci biru
November 24, 2013 at 5:28 AM
This episode made me so sad. The fact about oppa, only makes me sad. Jung Woo has this way of delivery that breaks my heart, he's pouring his heart out and it hurt me to watch him do it. I mean the other are good actor, but looking at Jung Woo as oppa, he nailed it, as if he got this alternate universe where he is in fact Ssereuki.
I love how they found out about Samcheonpo and Yoon Jin, the fact that they pay attention to the changes
and care to ask is heartwarming. If they didn't ask (like it normally happen in real life) I would be sad.
I'm glad and relief to see Chilbongie is the one who speaks up first.
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37 Whaat?
November 24, 2013 at 5:30 AM
I think there's a chance that Haitai steel Na J while Chilbongie and Oppa are fighting. It would be a plot twist ! From the beginning we thought it would be between Oppa and Chilbongie so of course they are going to introduce a third player :D Honestly i could see it, and don't people say that girls always end up with someone similar to their fathers ? Just saying...
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Waiting
November 24, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Yes!! You comment made me remember that we heard this "like your father" comparison in the show. I hope that is another attempt at confusing us rather than a future truth.
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38 Judith
November 24, 2013 at 5:32 AM
Waitaminute. Why am I suddenly on Team Haitai? Haha. This series keeps making me jumping ship.
Anyway, I still have no idea who the husband is (which is one of the reason why I'm enjoying this drama so much) but may the best man win! (Haitai fighting!)
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39 maldita
November 24, 2013 at 5:48 AM
It'd be the sneakiest plot twist ever if Hai Tai ends up as Na Jung's husband. And hey, I'm Team Chilbong but I think it'd be cool if Hai Tai is the hubby. Some people just gradually fall in love after being such good friends. It can happen. And besides, for Na Jung and Hai Tai to be super close, it'd be strange if more-than-friendly feelings don't happen. It's how one deals with it that changes things, or not.
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40 chin
November 24, 2013 at 5:53 AM
oh, i'm hook,line and sinker with this drama. and definitely team chilbongie all the way.
totally agree that they shouldn't wait this long for telling oppa's reason. why oppa why. and i think there's a reason for it.
i can sense haitai likes najung more in this episode (i sense it also in the previous ones) and three contendants sigh make my head ache more.
the unrequited talks reminds me of tvn drama (whatcha call it the dating one) the one episode about gal likes guy, other guy likes gal, guy sense competition and now likes gal.
cant wait for next epi, it looks like chilbongie going for a kill.
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41 eetsuko
November 24, 2013 at 5:54 AM
I share girlfriday's feelings about Oppa intruding into Chilbong's loveline and I'm feeling a bit apprehensive about it. But I remember what you said in a past recap, that love is a gift and not an entitlement, and so MAYBE (as much as we on the Chilbong team swooned over it) Chilbong's efforts in the ends might turn out to be for naught. But the game is not yet over and Chilbong has again stepped up by deciding to take Oppa's room in the boarding house. Go Chilbongie!
One of the things which I noticed about this episode is the emphasis on Dad's dislike of Na Jung's husband. Well I guess not really dislike, but more like he's not that excited about it haha (his comment about the husband being the ugliest of them all)! And I get apprehensive about it because Dad really really loves Chilbong right now. Haha
Anyway, I was a bit underwhelmed by this episode because of 1.) Oppa's weak reason for not giving a response to Na Jung's confession and 2.) because we've been denied a peek into this reason for long. Hopefully the next episode will be a bit more exciting! Which I do think is the case as judging from the preview, we're in for a doozy next week. I cannot wait!
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violet
November 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM
am i the only one who sees a metaphor in the oppa moving out/chilbong moving in?
oppa holds a place in her heart (the room), but he's moving out. however, chilbong is moving into her heart (the room).
so basically oppa is moving out of her heart, while chilbongie is moving in :D :D
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Waiting
November 24, 2013 at 7:06 AM
Nice!! :)
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jomo143
November 24, 2013 at 9:27 AM
Yes, perhaps.
But remember who has been there all along? Haitai!
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prongss
November 26, 2013 at 12:50 AM
But HT was never in oppa's room, and Chilbongie moved into oppa's room, right?
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42 junjae
November 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM
I don't know anymore. Gosh! Whoever is her husband I'll be totally be fine with it, but it will really be nice if it's Chilbongi.
I think Trash is one (or should I say 3)step too late. There's just too much disappointments.
But dad called the husband ugly! We all know he adores Chilbongi!
And the last scene! Chilbongi is going for it!!!!
And you know what I like the fact that Na Jung didn't tell Yoo Jin about Chilbongi (or else she would have said it in her drunken state) and neither did Haitai know, because there's that awkwardness between them because it means that she's aware of him.
I'm just so excited! I love this drama! They're delivering what Heirs promised. An actual love triangle where there is a push and pull. Where both couple actually have chemistry together and in every episodes you really don't know who the end game will be. You're just waiting for everything to happen! Not patiently! Not my case! I'll go crazy waiting til Friday!
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43 SunfloLeah
November 24, 2013 at 5:58 AM
I was always be a silent reader for this drama, but the writer really disappointed me this ep that I need to write something before getting my head on the wall --".
The writer's really messing with Trash Oppa character. They make him lovable only to put him down with this family matter reason. I'm all ok if Trash oppa is still a boy. I'm so okay with that reasoning. But he's a mature man, and that reasoning is sooo Korean dramaland like, which is too flat for me. It's like making him less appealing as Chilbong opponent which is disappoint me the most. I want them to be equal as Na Jeong's love fighter, but his 'we are too close as family' reason really turns his value down as a good contender. And am not okay with that. The writer must bring Oppa's charisma back! This is really not fair for him. We are served with Chilbong's storm of manly love but Oppa just all this weak boy-like line. It's like his already growing-up man vibe along these 11s are nothing. Aghhhh --"
And oh one missing point which makes me pity Trash Oppa, Na Jeong parents didn't address him as son-in law-to-be when he actually hoped for it. You can see his expression on that moment. But yeah Chilbong is sad too, but still his character development is away better than Oppa. Errrrgggh, that writernim really!! Give me Awesome Trash Oppa back!!!
But at the end, I just wanna see Na Jeong happy whoever her choice will be. Cause for me is all about her happiness. Am Team Na Jeong. If she's happy enough with her (not)one-sided-love towards Trash Oppa then it's ok. And if she's happy to be loved by Chilbong it's still good too. Na Jeong happiness must be on first line =)
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Marie
November 24, 2013 at 6:23 AM
but the thing is, their happiness related to love relationships is intertwined.
It's not a problem if one does not reciprocate another person's love. But if that person takes a long time to reject another or leads him on, then that's a problem because of course that person is suffering because of the indifference and carelessness.
In trash case, he loves na Jung but he is suffering while not being with her and she's suffering while not being with him. Why do they need to go through that mindless suffering that they or trash brought about?
If they got together and there's parental disapproval, at least they loved and suffered together.
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jemappellebooze
November 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM
I am Team Oppa, but I don't particularly want Na Jung to suffer through nine more episodes not knowing that Oppa reciprocates her feelings. At the same time, Chilbongie being written as the sweet, loving, can-do-no-wrong gentleman at the expense of Oppa's character disappoints me.
I was also disappointed that Oppa's realization of his feelings was contingent on Chilbong's confession; if it hadn't been for Chilbong's initiative, Oppa wouldn't have realized his feelings. That's bearable, I suppose, but what aggravates me is the way Oppa is distanced from Na Jung -- he never has or takes the opportunity to act on his feelings the way Chilbong does. Argh. I want Oppa and Chilbong to duel properly and for both to have a fair chance, even if I want Oppa to win in the end.
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Kim Yoonmi
November 25, 2013 at 8:00 PM
I think the subtleties of the relationship are being missed also some of the cultural pressures that are being put on the relationship.
Oppa feels like he replaced NJ's brother, his best friend in her life, even though NJ never felt that way, it's pretty clear he feels that way. It's a well-established relationship even with the feeling of cousins attached to it.
But at the same time, it's pretty clear he's always had some sort of feelings for her in the line, "I would have confessed first."
He's not only balancing NJ, but also balancing his father, NJ's father's relationship and probably a faint promise to his best friend to take care of NJ, as indicated by the earlier episodes. One might think that the relationship between his father and NJ's father is not his responsibility, but within Korea it is, especially since they seem to be from a smaller town and have known each other for such a long time. The cultural obligation is there on top of his head.
So he liked her first, but felt paralyzed by the obligation through the various relationships, can't quite let her go and keeps possessing her through actions, but not words, tries to let her go, and comes back to wanting to always be with her again. She's broken the cycle, but he's too scared to make the relationship change. Oppa, in the classic Korean tradition of the male hero, is a man of action more than words. He looks out for her, but since he had the lead, if he took action earlier, he'd be the sure win.
Story-wise, he also has to move out of the boarding house in order to break the brother-sister relationship, which it's clear he never got an opportunity to do before.
The playing field has gradually leveled.
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noanao
November 26, 2013 at 3:57 AM
I agree with you, on all counts ^^
And a lot of people seemed to forget that Oppa is from Kyungsang-do and to be indecisive, slow and thinking too much has been a famous traits for most Kyungsang-do men. A stark contrast from those from Joella-do men, most of them are loud, boisterous and impatient (Appa & Haitai). So it is a vital point to consider why Oppa is behaving the way he is and it should not be a something we called "lame excuse" because he has been raised to act the way his forefathers live, plus this is Korea, not America, or any other country outside of Korea. It is unfair to ask him to be as attentive as everyone else because he is Oppa, not CB/HT clone.
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Michelle
November 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM
omg AMENNNN
thank you for saying everything i wanted to say, but in a much more eloquent way hehe :)
honestly i think that it is totally understandable that ppl not familiar with korean culture would see trash's actions as unacceptable and selfish. i do agree that yea he has constantly been giving NJ mixed signals but i feel that his dilemma is completely valid.
he has finally decided to act upon his feelings and yes moving out would be the perfect way to start. to separate himself from the family.
trash's actions arent selfish at all. hes simply a mature adult that understands the complications of starting a relationship that could potentially ruin so much. its not as simple as liking someone. him liking NJ is essentially risking THAT MUCH. CHILBONG has nothing that big to lose. to chilbong he can like NJ freely with no consequence. sung shi kyungs song "to you" is trash's song it literally expresses trash's feelings perfectly.
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44 PeachRebel
November 24, 2013 at 6:01 AM
Watched the episode in the early morning hours in UK, with my cup of coffee. Somehow, at last and at least it was confirming that:
Yes. Oppa do like NJ. Yes. Oppa is not gay. Yes. CB aint gonna back down without a fight.
With warship oppa, being passive for A YEAR... He goes a full 360 in this episode. Both men were so blatant and honest. While CB is so sweet and endearing amidst the hurt that its a one-sided love for him with NJ, I cant help but give him extra points for tightening his grip on his boat while holding a banner infront of Oppa: I AINT GOING NOWHERE.
His innocent love rattled my cart. Oh dear.
Oppa... Oh... My LOVELY turtle Oppa. Hiding underneath that shell. At long last. It took a drunken , crazy, bean spilling Yoon-Jin for him to shake on the spot and realize that he needs to get moving, before Na-Jung gets stolen away by a determined CB or underdog Boss Hatai.
To me, his answer though was (as an Oppa shipper) like someone deducting and reaching a conclusion, that sounded like he was dissecting his heart with curiousity and consideration. A bit cold for my taste. Somehow, compared to CB, Chilbong had more warmth (or am I being swayed by those puppy tearful but loving eyes of his?)
It doesnt mean Im jumping ship to team CB, but watching these two men expressing their love in different ways and concluding where and how they stand in the race to NJ 's heart, I cant help but melt for CB's devotion , inspite that he knew he might lose to Oppa. You could see CB eyes, what he feared most, that Oppa had finally picked up the bat. And boy, though my Oppa is a tad late, he looked fearsome and manly.
THE GAME IS ON!! Lol
PS: It seems Hatai has a ship of his own. Lol. Watch out for the underdog.
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45 Nanny
November 24, 2013 at 6:01 AM
I think Haitai's the husband, Dad actually adores Chilbongie and Garbage so I don't know if he'd say that his son in law's the worst looking if it was them. Then again it could be typical Daddy-unable-to-let-his-daughter-go kind of taunting.
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Nanny
November 24, 2013 at 6:19 AM
There's also what Mom said, that Haitai is practically Dad 2.0. Girls often end up with some version of their Dad so that bit stood out to me.
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46 Z
November 24, 2013 at 6:02 AM
I was so disappointed at the Oppa reveal. The reasoning is so lame, "Our families are so close, I don't want to mess things up by making us officially famil." What is that?
I pretty much just find myself cheering for whoever is on screen at the moment. When Chilbong was getting huffy about Lee Jung Jae, I was all Team Bongie! When Oppa was rushing to get to the date, I was like "Run, Oppa!" When Hai-Tai was playing BFF I was rooting for him. I even fist-pumped at little for Baby Bing when Mom joined his team.
I loved the surprise batter twist. I h ope they give Hai-Tai a real shot. I love him so much. He's the one in the middle of the group picture at the wedding, right? That might mean something. Wouldn't the groom be in the middle? Both the "frontrunners" are way out at the ends.
I don't see why it's such a big deal the Bongie is moving in. He pretty much lived there anyway. I remember a moment last week when Hai-Tai was telling SCP's dad about all the boarders and including Bongie to the list, which I thought was sweet. How much extra drama could they really add by having him there 7 nights a week as opposed to five?
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Z
November 24, 2013 at 6:08 AM
Also, I expected Trash to go home and confess that night. How gonna move out without letting her know how you feel? Of course she is mad at you, dummy! Chilbong already told you he's coming for a frontal attack! I think the show is trying to tell us that he is always going to be a step too slow. At this rate, he's going to come in third place in this race.
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47 john
November 24, 2013 at 6:06 AM
GF ~
Thanks for the recap. I really enjoyed this weeks (extra long , lone ) episode.
The love birds were so cute, Yoon-jin looks so much better with her hair up. The fact that everyone was oblivious to the couples shirts was funny.
Haitai played a crucial role this time around. I thought he was going to plant a kiss on Na-jung when they had their chat.
Haitai and Chil-bong practically have to pry an admission from Garbage regarding his feelings toward Na-jung.
Plus Yoon-jin adds more fuel to the fire with a drunken indictment of Garbage's callous treatment of Na-jung's heart.
Where are the red hot pokers they use to torture people in saeguks? That might have been easier to motivate Garbage to own up to his feelings.
C'mon dude. The families closeness would be a plus rather than a minus regarding a romance.
Haitai's latest crush is cute. Any idea what drama her family was watching?
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porcelain
November 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM
"Where are the red hot pokers they use to torture people in saeguks? That might have been easier to motivate Garbage to own up to his feelings."
Omg, you... lol... I actually agree... like we need to inflict some pain on Oppa to 'fess up!
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latteholic
November 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM
The drama that the family is watching when Haitai pants dropped? It's Judge Bao/Justice Bao. I watched that show in 1994/1995. Seeing them watching that brought back memories for sure :D
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john
November 24, 2013 at 3:21 PM
latteholic ~
Thanks, I was sure someone would know. A quick search shows a whopping 236 episode drama @ 45 minutes per episode. Yikes !
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latteholic
November 24, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Yeah, it was pretty long. I remembered watching it every Monday to Friday when it was aired. I think they have the 2010 version, and it's only 40 episodes long :)
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hm...
November 24, 2013 at 3:20 PM
they were watching "Sandglass", a really popular drama back in the day that had super high ratings.
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hm...
November 24, 2013 at 3:20 PM
oh jk i just realized u were talking about the haitai's crush's family... *facepalm
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48 Yon Yih
November 24, 2013 at 6:11 AM
Chilbongie fighting!!
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49 Gogo
November 24, 2013 at 6:13 AM
I really have a strong feeling that Cb will end up with baseball girl.
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nomad
November 24, 2013 at 7:59 AM
I hope not. I don't know why, but the baseball girl irks me, and I loveee CB.
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prongss
November 26, 2013 at 12:53 AM
I like the baseball girl, she's got spunk!
But all the same, I don't want her with Chilbongie. As much as I want him to find happiness and love(if he doesn't end up with NJ), I don't want the writers to find him a rebound girl right away :/
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50 adrian
November 24, 2013 at 6:13 AM
What if the feeling that najung feels from oppa is not real love.because oppa is always by her side...i want najung to end up with chilbong,besides they already kiss 2x... N najung n oppa have not kiss yet..huuuuuuu.. i did like oppa on the first place, but after the stry progress i like chilbong more
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