City Hunter: Episode 16
by javabeans
Ooh, the big secret’s out — to us, at least, not to the characters — and the story takes a bit of a twist accordingly. It’s a point I thought I’d hate, but which actually turns out to work pretty nicely, in a symbolic and thematic sense. I think. I’m still waiting on full confirmation before I decide that I like it.
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EPISODE 16 RECAP
Young-ju’s use of Yoon-sung’s Thai name stops the latter in his tracks. He doesn’t expressly deny Young-ju’s assertion, just evades it by telling him to bring proof if he’s so sure he’s the City Hunter. Young-ju vows to catch him in the act.
Yoon-sung maintains his composure until he’s out of sight, then collapses, weakened from the toxic exposure. He awakens in bed with Shik-joong tending to him, and with the memory of recent dangerous events impressed firmly in his mind, he hands over his bank books and house deed to Ajusshi.
He speaks as though his death is a foregone conclusion, advising Shik-joong to use the money to return to his hometown and asking him to check in on Nana and his mother periodically. His matter-of-fact words unnerve Shik-joong, but Yoon-sung tells him, “I’d forgotten who I was for a moment.”
It occurs to Nana later that night that something may have happened to Yoon-sung, so it’s with relief that she takes in his arrival at her apartment. He looks at her with a grim expression, and asks if she could ever throw away the kitchen table and chairs left her by her parents. Not understanding the meaning behind it, Nana wonders why she’d do that, since she’d rather treasure it forever. That both proves his point and upsets him.
He asks, “How long are you going to dwell on the memories of people who are no longer with you?” Oh, so sad — the thought of Nana never getting over him pains him, and makes him lash out at her. Noooo, don’t be cruel to be kind! That is just about the stupidest way to be “kind” that man ever devised.
He tells her in his firm, sad way that he’s never once imagined falling in love, but that he can’t bear the thought of her hurting because of him: “I don’t even want to leave you with any memories of me. Kim Nana — I like you. But I don’t think I could let you go.” (Then don’t doooo it!) “So you let go of me first.”
With that, he grabs his bullet necklace from her neck: “You know who I am, and how I lived.”
She hurriedly tells him to forget what she said if her words are too burdensome for him. But he says he can’t do that, because he likes her: “This is my first and last request.”
She refuses to accept that request, but he asks her with a heartfelt “Please.” He adds that if he ever goes looking for her, he wants her to reject him. If they’re to meet in the street, she should pretend not to know him. Yeah, this is an insane request, but how can she resist when he says so sincerely, “I’m sorry…that you had to know me”?
Yoon-sung: “I’ve realized with a certainty why Father warned me not to love.”
Aw, man. I can’t even hate him for doing this, because he’s being so candid and open about it — it’s not so much noble idiocy as just good-old-fashioned noble. Yes, he could just choose to embrace happiness — but he seems so sure of his death that I suppose he’s trying to do the responsible thing.
Nana cries for a bit, then pulls herself together and tells herself she won’t cry. And since Yoon-sung asked her to forget him because their feelings are causing him such turmoil, she decides to abide by his wishes, “Because instead of him hurting, it’s better that I hurt.”
Young-ju studies his City Hunter chart, which is alarmingly accurate. Nana’s aunt comes by to give him words of encouragement, telling him that she’s made the decision to wipe the slate clean. She’s still upset that her brother and sister-in-law were victims of his father’s accident — interesting, so she knew the truth, but kept that from Nana — but she’s not going to hold that against Young-ju. Given that Nana’s aunt has been quite friendly and warm all this time, this is a tacit admission that she’s harbored resentment, which she now has let go of. She adds that Nana probably feels just like her, suggesting that she doesn’t really hate him but is keeping her distance out of hurt.
Assistant Pil-jae delivers the startling news that the confidential file on the 1983 incident has disappeared, right from under the NIS’s nose.
Setback No. 2: They receive a report from the Thai police confirming the identity of the drug lord from the Triangle, and it’s not Jin-pyo. Young-ju had had confirmation from those arrested drug runners that Jin-pyo is the guy, but they’re no longer around for questioning, because they’ve been sent back home to face trial in Thailand.
Unsurprisingly, Jin-pyo has a hand in this, and exerts his pull with the Thai police to stall Young-ju. Minion Sang-gook points out that the mere fact that Young-ju is on the Thai drug trail means he’s sniffing close to the truth. He urges Jin-pyo to make the confidential file public, now that they know who all five targets are and have the proof. He reminds Jin-pyo that he joined up with him partly for revenge, but mostly to restore his brother’s good name.
Jin-pyo says it’s not time yet to play the hidden card — because Yoon-sung has to finish this off.
At the Blue House, Nana’s decision holds firm when she runs into Yoon-sung in the hallway. Per his request, she ignores him and walks by.
Jin-pyo (posing as investor Steve Lee) meets with Chun Jae-man, and asks about the TV interview Chun had given about the 1983 incident. Chun asserts that those men were thoughtless traitors out to sell their country, unaware that he’s just dug his grave a little bit deeper.
Jin-pyo asks about the sit-in at the Haewon Chemicals factory, since the protest is causing a stir; they’re demanding that the company acknowledge the hazardous conditions, to declare them victims of an industrial accident. This would, at the very least, allow them certain legal rights and protections, but it’s no wonder that money-grubbing Chun is loath to part with a single penny to pay for their medical bills.
He declares himself a cool-headed businessmen, not one to irrationally give away money, and plans to skirt that responsibility by pushing through a bill privatizing health care. And here we were, calling socialized medicine the devil.
The president, on the other hand, urges Chun to do the right thing and declare the site hazardous, get his factories up to code, and let his employees work in safe conditions. Chun doesn’t want to deal with the endless lawsuits (he’s lazy and greedy!), since that would lead to his ruin. One can hope.
Chun declares that he has not flouted one bit of the law. Famous last words. You mean aside from the toxic dumping, right? He tells President Choi that if he continues to oppose him, he’ll not only hold Operation Clean Sweep over his head, but also the president’s Big Secret, the one that nobody knows but him.
Nana visits Mom in the hospital, who wonders why she’s not with Yoon-sung. Not wanting to upset her, Nana just says that he’s been so busy that they haven’t been able to coordinate schedules, and Mom tells her how thankful she is to have Nana with Yoon-sung. Words to inspire guilt.
She finds the boy Yoon-shik crying outside his mother’s room as doctors rush in to revive her, and Nana puts on a smile to assure him that Mom will be fine. She accompanies him to buy his mother a gift with the coins he’d been saving for months; he wants to give her cosmetics, to brighten her up.
They pick out a blush and present the jar of coins, but the cashier rejects payment, saying that it’s too time-consuming to count out what are essentially a pile of dimes. At first she’s polite about it, but when Nana offers to count it all out for her, her attitude turns snooty, as though their store is above selling dime products. Nana gently corrects her, reminding her that 100 won coins are still money, which gets the cashier muttering under her breath.
Yoon-sung walks by the store window — he’s just completed reconnaissance work of his own, following around Chun Jae-man — and assesses the scene. He steps in and presents a bill to pay for the purchase, and the cashier’s polite facade falls back into place.
However, she doesn’t have the change for such a huge banknote — 10 million won, or about $8,000. I love the point this makes, which Yoon-sung articulates:
Yoon-sung: “You look down your nose at pennies and dimes, when you can’t even make change for this? Before you take offense, start by apologizing. If you can’t even bother to consider what the boy’s buying this for, why sell the product? It seems to me the quality of your service doesn’t amount to a dime’s worth. There’s no such thing as a dime-value person in this world. Discriminating among people is cowardly and pathetic.”
The woman apologizes immediately, but he means to the child. With a little less enthusiasm, she apologizes to him as well.
They make the purchase after all, and Yoon-sung takes the boy back with him, but tells Nana not to visit the hospital anymore.
Chun’s minion Mr. Creepy returns to terrorize Cancer Mom. If we weren’t convinced yet that he was evil, that sentence sure does it, no?
She refuses to betray her colleagues and sign the form giving up her complaint against the company, though she’s shocked when he tells her that all her so-called friends have already signed, and she’s the last holdout. Man, I don’t know if that’s the truth, but if he’s lying to get her to sign, it’s a pretty clever tactic. He adds that her misplaced loyalty will get her dead and make her poor son poorer, when she could ensure his safe future instead.
He guides her hand in sealing the contract with her thumbprint, and she doesn’t have the heart to resist.
But no, it was a lie, and the demonstration continues at the factory. Not for long, though, since Mr. Creepy orders a team of thugs to wipe out the protest, which they do with cruel efficiency. How sad am I that the ensuing riot — more like slaughter, though the aim is maiming rather than outright murder (glass half full!) — is altogether too familiar a scene in Korean history.
Into the fray stalks the City Hunter (yay!), who beats up the offenders with ease. In fact, it’s almost so easy that I’m a little disappointed…until he turns around and sees Mr. Creepy standing there in his head-to-toe black and guyliner, ready to face off. Awwww, yeah!
Creepy’s got a baton/nightstick/pipe, so empty-handed Yoon-sung picks up the first thing he gets his hands on — a water bottle — and beats him furiously with it. Korea must not have switched over to those leaky bottles that collapse under the weight of air. Enjoy that while you can.
This should not be so cool, but it is — and how much do I love that even with bodies strewn on the ground, the injured protestors still look up with moony eyes at His Hotness?
Yoon-sung delivers the final blow directly to the head, which isn’t enough to knock out the guy, but does get him down for the count. Yoon-sung plucks the signed contract from Creepy’s pocket, and tells him to convey the message to Chun Jae-man that he’s gonna have to give in on the whole my-factory-is-a-toxic-wasteland point.
Da-hae goes shopping for her father’s birthday present, and worries about the anti-fan cafe that sprang up after her public fight with the girls who insulted her father. Apparently they’ve declared that they’ll come after her, and Da-hae’s elevated profile makes her fairly easy to locate.
Sure enough, a mob of anti-fans greets the ladies when they pull up at the cafe, who are here for a study session with Yoon-sung, who’s waiting inside. They’re armed with eggs, and start slinging them Da-hae’s way.
Nana leaps in front of Da-hae and takes the brunt of the assault, being pelted with eggs and fruit, until Eun-ah and Yoon-sung both arrive and interrupt the disturbance. Yoon-sung asks worriedly if she’s okay, but Nana maintains their distance and rejects his help, saying curtly that she’ll clean herself up.
How does it feel to get what you asked for, Mr. Noble (Okay, Possibly A Bit Of An Idiot)? All throughout his tutoring session, Yoon-sung can’t keep his gaze from straying over to Nana, who stands a distance away.
At the hospital, Yoon-sung puts on a cheery front for his mother’s sake, but she’s attuned to his moods and knows that something is troubling him. He says he can tell her once it’s all over, and assures her that it’s not that big a deal. Oh, you know, moonlighting as a vengeful vigilante, taking on society’s corrupt, wreaking justice with the cold fury with which others wreak havoc…ho-hum. All in a day’s work.
He evades her concerned questions, then muses to himself, “Mom, liking somebody isn’t always a happy thing, I think.”
Yoon-shik asks Yoon-sung to read to him, which turns out to be a bedtime story about an elephant. That makes him think back to the comment he’d made about Nana resembling his Thai “friend” who liked skinship — turns out he DID mean his elephant, ha.
Surveillance time: Yoon-sung spies on Chun Jae-man meeting with Jin-pyo and a couple other men, then texts the photos to Young-ju. Immediately, Young-ju smells something fishy — why would Chun be meeting with two Seoul district prosecutors?
As the men dine, Yoon-sung sits in the next room, listening through the (literally) paper-thin walls. It’s an old boys’ club in the making, with Chun treating them to the lavish meal and greasing the wheels. The prosecutors are flattered and basically agree to sweep his problems under the rug, and Chun gives them gifts of some premium seaweed as thanks.
Into this scene of budding corruption flies Young-ju, who turns his righteous indignation on his superiors. One of them keeps his head down in chagrin, but the other hotheaded prosecutor takes the offense-as-defense tack and loses his temper, saying that Young-ju’s hardly one to lecture them on propriety, He Who Covered Up His Father’s Corruption.
Now the prosecutors are suspicious, wondering if Chun arranged this meeting to set them up for a fall. Mood soured, they walk out — and Young-ju orders them to leave behind the seaweed gift lest they also leave behind their sense of justice.
Chun blusters that he’s being pretty high-and-mighty over some seaweed, but Young-ju spills the contents of the box on the ground, revealing the wads of cash stuffed inside. He lets Chun know he’s wise to his attempt to kill him: “Faked suicide — that’s no fun.”
Chun feigns ignorance, but Young-ju’s next words have both Chun and Jin-pyo on alert: “1983. Operation Clean Sweep. You said in your interview that they’d all been shot to death in open waters. When I brought up the Nampo incident you’d tried to hide, it must have been very uncomfortable for you.”
Young-ju shares a theory, that perhaps not everyone had died. With a look at Jin-pyo, he asks Chun if it’s possible someone could have survived. He leaves him with a warning: “I’ll be waiting to see if you’re still this confident once I’ve uncovered the full truth of Operation Clean Sweep.” Damn, Young-ju really does get the best exits, all righteous passion.
This incident gets him in hot water with his boss, though, who has heard the account and reprimands Young-ju for hiding his tipoff by the City Hunter. Young-ju is ordered off the Chun Jae-man case, and told that his future will be decided at an upcoming meeting.
It’s the opposite for Nana, who gets promoted at work. With recent events and a recommendation working in her favor, Nana is assigned to presidential guard duty. Ah, let the final face-off begin! City Hunter vs. City Hunter’s One True Love, as she guards his Target No. 5!
…who may just be the City Hunter’s father?
Yoon-sung has lunch with the President and Da-hae, and the three of them all pick out the beans from their rice. (Ahh, I knew those beans would have to mean something! I was hoping against birth secrets, but sigh. I suppose it works, since it points to an epic final conflict.) President Choi asks Yoon-sung if he thinks Da-hae has a shot at going to university, and Yoon-sung truthfully answers that it doesn’t look likely.
That gives Da-hae the opening to admit that she hasn’t the head for studying, and that she’d rather work. She was afraid of disappointing him, but she’d rather come clean now than embarrass him by going to a third-rate school.
President Choi accepts that, and apologizes to Yoon-sung for wasting his time with the tutoring lessons, even as he praises his ballsiness for being frank with his assessment of Da-hae. (From aluminum… back to steel, then?)
The president muses that he was quite like Yoon-sung in his youth, but that living in the political world has curbed that side of him. Oh, this birth secret’s gonna hurt, isn’t it?
In another hallway encounter at work, Nana tries to walk by without a word, but Yoon-sung stops her to give her grief about the scrape on her face, and for not taking care of her appearance. Aw, they’re back to the overcompensating assiness, which is mitigated a very tiny bit by the knowledge that they’re both forcing themselves to act this way. But only a very little bit. Mostly it just makes me sad.
It’s harder to deny his feelings than he’d like, and Yoon-sung broods at home, taking out the photo he totally didn’t throw away, and then going out for a walk.
That takes him to the public park where he’d once run through fountains, where he sees Nana sitting, alone.
To his chagrin, she spots him and approaches, so he warns her to keep her distance: “Coming here to reminisce pathetically on old memories — I’ll do it alone. No need for you to do it too.” He tells her to be her usual plucky self rather than playing the naif, which doesn’t suit her.
Yoon-sung: “Every day I blame myself hundreds, thousands of times. Why did I meet you? Why did it have to be you? To me, you’re someone who makes me hate, blame, and regret myself. You’re like a nightmare I don’t want to remember. I told you to go back to the time before you knew me. Go back and meet a better man, and live every day joyfully. Forget me, and live happily.”
He turns to go, and Nana splashes into the fountain between them, mindless of the water, to catch up to him: “Is that all you can say to me? Telling me to break up, to let go of you, to forget you, to disappear from your life — I could understand that. But how could you say this to me? How could you tell me to meet another man?”
Voice trembling, Nana says she’ll wait till this is over, “So can’t you come back to me? I’ll forget these words you’ve just said. It’s not a difficult thing — can’t you just say you’ll come back? If you don’t answer now, even if you come back to me later, I won’t take you. I really, really won’t. So can’t you tell me that you’ll finish this and come back to me? Please.”
With tears in his own eyes, he turns silently and walks away.
Young-ju hears that the NIS employee who’d been in charge of the lost confidential book has since resigned and is preparing to leave the country. They put a flight ban on him and track him to his home, where he lies in a daze. The man, fading fast, says that the file is with Chun Jae-man and Steve Lee.
Sang-gook expresses more misgivings about this continued revenge plan, which shows that he’s growing balls of his own. Now that they have the records, why are they conspiring with Chun Jae-man? Doesn’t this suggest that they’re no better — that they’re contributing to the corruption in Korea?
Jin-pyo is displeased to have his orders questioned by yet another subordinate, and says that if the tarnished agents were ever going to have their good names restored, it would’ve happened ages ago: “The last enemy is someone you can’t even imagine.” He tells Sang-gook to leave if he can’t work with him.
Instead, Sang-gook calls Yoon-sung to tip him off about Jin-pyo possessing the confidential file, which contains info on Operation Clean Sweep as well as the last target. Sang-gook admits that he’s tired of this revenge, and gives Yoon-sung his chance to steal the file: Dad is out in a meeting, and Sang-gook will buy some time. But he must move quickly.
Yoon-sung arrives at Dad’s lair and gets to work unscrambling the safe’s code, which takes some time to decode.
Pulling a plug from under the car’s hood gets the car to stall, but Jin-pyo is sharp enough to see that the problem is stupidly simple to correct, which makes him immediately suspect that Sang-gook did this on purpose. Hurrying home, Jin-pyo mutters, “Yoon-sung can’t know yet.” Frankly, I’m just glad he didn’t kill Sang-gook on the spot for insubordination.
The safe-cracker unscrambles the passcode, and Yoon-sung clicks opens the safe just as a suited figure steps into the room behind him. Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.
But it’s the prosecutor’s voice, not Dad’s, that asks, “Shall we look together?”
Yoon-sung faces Young-ju and assumes his cover, saying smoothly that he’s here to find the contract he signed with Steve Lee, because he feels he’s getting scammed. Young-ju tells him his days of slipping away with those excuses are over, and lays out what he knows: Jin-pyo is the sole survivor of Operation Clean Sweep, and Yoon-sung is the City Hunter who delivered Senator Lee into his hands.
Yoon-sung reminds him that he has no proof, and Young-ju returns that the proof is in that safe. If it contains the NIS file on Operation Clean Sweep, he’s proven himself correct. Oh crap, he has a point.
And then…Jin-pyo’s angry voice booms, “What the hell are you doing in here?” Oh good lord, I didn’t think his arrival would ever make me happy, but I’m simultaneously relieved that Yoon-sung has slipped out of the prosecutor’s clutches, AND disappointed that Young-ju has failed to capture his quarry. Oh man, this is like the Dokko Jin/Pil-joo quandary all over again: How can we get both men to win, when one man’s victory necessitates the other’s defeat?
Jin-pyo points out that Young-ju’s currently on probation, and asks pointedly whether he’s come armed with a search warrant. He addresses Yoon-sung as a business partner — a lie that Young-ju refuses to let distract him.
Young-ju declares that he will prove right now that all his allegations are true, and heads for the safe, shoving Yoon-sung out of his way, which sends Jin-pyo reaching for his sword-cane.
Except…the safe is empty. And from the shock on all three men’s faces, this was not a part of the plan. Although it’s a lucky thing for Young-ju’s own safety that it wasn’t here, judging from Jin-pyo’s response.
The book turns out to be in the hands of…Chun Jae-man? Wut now?
It turns out Chun isn’t quite such a blind fool for money, because he’d smelled something fishy about Steve Lee from the start, and now he has his confirmation that he’s involved in all this. He tells Creepy Minion to research Steve Lee, because he’s likely to be related to the dead agents — or may even be that survivor Young-ju mentioned. If he’s the City Hunter, he’ll be back to recover the confidential file.
Not surprisingly, Chun’s also responsible for the dead NIS employee. Young-ju had arrived in time to talk to him, but the man died before the ambulance arrived.
Dayum. I kind of like that Chun Jae-man’s a slippery fish. The only alarm he displays is upon hearing that Kyung-hee appears to have been sent abroad. He orders Mr. Creepy to find her, explaining merely that she’s “my last hidden card.”
Secret affair alert!
At home, Yoon-sung muses that Chun is behind the theft, and also the NIS employee’s murder. He admits being disappointed that he wasn’t able to see the file, because he’d been curious to read about his bio-dad. He asks Shik-joong to buy a picture frame off home shopping so he can frame a photo of his father to give to Mom. She’d said she had no pictures of him left, and he figures he can find some in the Secret Service records.
Jin-pyo decides that people see him as weak, which makes me shudder to think what he thinks he’s capable of, if we’re all underestimating him. He declares that it’s better that the confidential book disappear than fall into Yoon-sung’s hands.
Yoon-sung goes to the Blue House library in search of the appropriate Secret Service facebook, only to find 1983’s volume missing from the shelves. A man asks, “Are you looking for this?”
COMMENTS
I’m not the hugest fan of birth secrets. Even when they’re used well, I feel like they’re such a familiar trope in K-dramas that they’ve lost their narrative punch. So when the hints of Yoon-sung’s paternity finally crystallized in this episode — all but confirming President Choi to be the true bio-dad — I was partly disappointed. It’s not set in stone, but in addition to the bean aversion and Kyung-hee’s shiftiness when Yoon-sung asks about his father, we have the two “hidden cards”: Chun’s card against the President is Kyung-hee, and Jin-pyo’s card against Yoon-sung is the President’s identity as the next target. It adds up.
That said, if we must have birth secrets, I appreciate the narrative purpose this one serves. It’s not mere makjang twist, because the hints have been laid into the story along the way, and the revelation actually heightens the conflict as we approach the climax. I’d always assumed that the final battle for Target No. 5 would culminate in a fraught father-son struggle. I just had the wrong father.
Now that President Choi is (almost assuredly) Dad, that means Yoon-sung is his greatest weakness. And while we know that Yoon-sung is unable to kill, he’s been satisfied with bringing corrupt men to their own ruin. Will he be able to do the same with President Choi? Especially since it seems, from what we’ve seen, that he probably doesn’t have a closet full of embezzling, backdoor-dealing, toxic-waste-dumping skeletons as the others did. He’s a good man who collapsed under pressure, who “missed his timing” to do the right thing, as he explained in the last episode.
Jin-pyo has been determined to keep Target No. 5’s identity from Yoon-sung all series long, which made me wonder whether it was to shelter him, or if there was a darker purpose. I’m not convinced Jin-pyo still has a heart — he’s got trace remnants of it, maybe, but he’s mostly cut it out or let it blacken into a rage-filled rock of vengeance — so I’m going with the latter. Especially since he’s equally insistent that Yoon-sung must take out the last target with his own two hands.
Perhaps Jin-pyo is just saving the best (i.e., the cruelest) for last, so he can destroy the president using his very own son, revealed at just the right time for maximum hurty impact. It would probably destroy Yoon-sung, too, of whom I do believe he is genuinely fond — but seeing his willingness to run him over to make a point makes me think he’d get over that. He’s raised Yoon-sung with single-minded purpose, perhaps intending all along that he should die at the critical moment, like a tool. Sort of like Dumbledore, without the soul or the good intentions.
This is also why I’m not actually annoyed at Yoon-sung for pushing Nana away, or with her for abiding by his wishes. In most other dramas, the reasoning is pretty weak and doesn’t quite support the act, but in this one, Yoon-sung’s all but convinced he’s headed toward death. He knows it would hurt Nana to be left behind loving him, but it’s also for his own sake that he has to keep his distance, because it’s like he feels it would be selfish to be with her now, only to ditch her later. I don’t like them apart and depressed, but I get why they’re doing it. Urg! Why do you hurt me so, City Hunter?
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151 jlongs
July 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM
How rare is it that in a KDrama you DON'T get the feeling that the story is being dragged and stretched out a few episodes, or that you could basically combine certain episodes and do without a lot of scenes to reduce the episode list by 2 or more?
That isn't the case with City (Shitty?) Hunter. It feels like the series doesn't waste a lot of time with unnecessary and stretched out scenes just to fill out an episode. I appreciate that. A lot. And we know it's not because there's a lot of material to work with because it was clear in the first episode that this is NOT based on the original story, but rather inspired by it I guess.
But what takes the cake is that the series manages to incorporate a whole lot of genre's and not make it seem forced at all. You get a bit of action, comedy, romance, angst, drama, etc. and that's all in one episode!
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM
@Jlongs...
I love your comments on why City Hunters has been a total hit with viewers, it covers so many genres so well it leaves me breathless and wanting for more, and you are spot on when you mention that CH keeps the ball moving and doesn't wait around. I LOVE THAT and that one main reason why I'm in love with this drama, well that and LMH lets be honest, but I love how writers have been able to keep that balance through out this past 16 episodes and if they can keep up in the next 4 my total respect to PD and writers.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 7:17 PM
@jlongs
i second @Venus' comments above...
BOTH of you have expressed how wonderful CH is for all CH lovers, the world over... ;)
thank you so much!!! ;)
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 1:15 AM
@jlongs
i totally agree with you
ilove the pace of this series and i love how the show balances all those genres without compromising the main plot.
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152 Mg
July 15, 2011 at 5:37 PM
Haha so this means daehae has been in love/flirting with her half brother?
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girl
July 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM
that skipped my mind until you brought it up !! omoo
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thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 7:45 AM
Yeah, I realized that in the scene where the three of them are eating together and I was like "ugh, INCEST!" but also, Omo, can't wait till she finds out, it's really gonna rock her world!
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153 missjb
July 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM
sorry OOT, i just want to share My MV for city hunter :)
http://youtu.be/kKSUwYTF6VA
Thanks for watching ^^
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154 ladida
July 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM
I have not read any of these comments, but here is what I think:
I DO NOT want the President to be Yoon Sung's father. Why? Because if he is, then the ENTIRE story, these 16 episodes so far, are completely without meaning. Narrative-wise, his quest to bring these people to justice for the things that they've done would be devoid of meaning because his "father" is not his father. The reason for the creation of the City Hunter would be kaput. Huge existential crisis for the story if the President is the father.
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Fall
July 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM
MY is still his father. He was gonna raise him as his own. He even told JP before he died to take care of his wife and son.
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ladida
July 18, 2011 at 3:52 PM
This is what I keep telling myself. I'll be so relieved when episode 17 comes out. Why oh why do I let fictional narratives disrupt my life like this? Lol.
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DKM
July 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM
I don't think that the last 16 episodes were meaningless. YS may have started it as a revenge but because they were such baddies, he meted out justice for the society. If he had killed them without finding out their crimes, then it would be meaningless.
That was why we speculated YS's conscience would not allow him to have his revenge on the President because he didn't really have any dirt on him other than the 1983 incident (at least it was shown that way).
Anyway, with the birth secret out, it's a different conflict.
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ladida
July 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM
I think we may be saying the same thing. Right now I don't think these 16 episodes have been meaningless. If, however, Yoon Sung is the president's son, and he does not bring him to justice because of that, then they will be meaningless because his quest for justice will be totally delegitimated. It'll be a cop-out. He will be acting exactly as the prosecutor acted towards his own father, being unable to fully denounce him for his wrongs, (which would be another narrative weakness, as they are supposed to be foils for one another.) He brought those other officials to the prosecutor both for his own needs for revenge and for the larger need for elected officials to be doing good for the society they work for. As for the "he didn’t really have any dirt on him other than the 1983 incident" part, well, that "incident" is pretty horrible. I mean, a president being involved in the unlawful and degrading death of 21 military men? That is the government literally sending its own people out to kill and then killing those people for doing their job. It's so awful, it's absurd.
Not to mention, this means Dae Hye has been crushing on her BROTHER this entire time. That means she has to be more than a barista 'cause she's gonna have to pay for some major therapy bills.
I don't know. Maybe I've been so much more invested in the romantic plot-line that I actually don't understand what is going on her?
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loveencounter
July 15, 2011 at 9:20 PM
IMO it will the perfect revenge for Jin Pyo...what better way then a son who kill his own father and he raises Yoon Sung all this time to be a killing machine....he who told a lie to Yoon Sung that his mother abandoned him
why else Jin Pyo waited all this time to get his revenge and he was raging when Yoon Sung refused to follow his way of terminating and killing his target except for Kim Joon Shik (target no3) where his rage clouding his judgement
I feel so much for Yoon Sung...what will happen when he knows the truth and all his sacrifices is all for naught
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ladida
July 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM
I never did understand why Jin Pyo waited so long to mete out his revenge, and I still don't. And he still manages to kill them on his own even now, as evidenced by his killing the first target. Supposing he did know that Yoon Sung is the President's son, how did he know that that man would end up being the president? And why isn't he more upset at Kyung Hee for being an adulterer--someone who cheated on his best friend, no less? (One response to this may be that he's in love with Kyung Hee; I'm not sure how that works, because usually when someone you're in love with turns out to not be the shining vision of virtue you perceive them as you're crushed, not still all googly eyes over them.)
I'll stick with the show even if Yoon Sung is the president's son, but I'll be mighty disappointed.
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155 Abbie
July 15, 2011 at 6:22 PM
Oh man! I love this show.
I knew it! I knew there was a possibility that the president was Yoon-sung's father, from the very moment Kyung-hee stepped into the president's car! All along, I've speculated and doubted, and here it is! Geez. I love this show. With all these things laid out before us, I can't wait for the finale.
Two more weeks, four more episodes.....
Will I even survive all this angst 'til then?!
I hope this show doesn't end up like Bad Guy did, with the hero dying. But with all his mopey-I'm-going-to-die-ness, I don't really see an alternative! It is so frustrating.
Where did Sae-hee go, too? I liked her with her efficient, pulling bullets out of people's backs coolness. I hope she and Young-ju reconcile. And Nana doesn't kill Yoon-sung, so they can be together. Ah, geez. GEEZ! This is so frustrating. I feel like I did with 49 Days. Not really a good feeling, because our heroine died in that! I hope Yoon-sung doesn't die!
Anywho. Thanks for the recap, Javabeans!
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156 Venus
July 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM
One more thing that has come to my attention is the end of ep. 16...cause damn my heart almost jump out of me when the President handed YS the Bodyguard Alumn book....cause now my head is raising again and the major twist is that the President has know all along that YS is CH and this is JP revenge, WOW, that will be an awesome twist...Like the president has been waiting all this time for JP to come and avenge is comrades and has know all this time that YS is the one to turn him in.
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elle070811
July 15, 2011 at 9:33 PM
I think so too. I think he connected the dots when he visited Kyung Hee and Kyung Hee informed him that Jin Pyo took her son from her 28 years ago.
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 9:59 PM
Hi Elle...
Yeah I think ever since he visited KH I think the president has known that JP is back in town.....he is the president he has everything at his disposal ...and we also need to remember that he try to warn the other guys, but they didn't listen to him...at the end City Hunter took his revenge....
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 1:28 AM
Hello
Yes. And with him(President) appearing in the last scene, him giving the book/album to YS, it looked like he knew something or a lot but we can only guess how much...weh! the anticipation and the guessing makes me want to marathon the last 16 eps just to see if i missed something there...lol..
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157 Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM
Okay - this ep 16 thread is probably close to the end for commenting now, but before we finish for the week,
I'm going to take a deep breath and say how I believe CH is going to end.
First, a few plot points that I think have been addressed and WON'T be revisited by the writer.
Many commenters believe that YS's dreams of a face-off between him and Nana will be played out in the
end. I say *no* to this as it's already been handled in the story.
Nana took that shoulder bullet for YS, willing to die
to protect him. In the dream they are on the floor, bleeding out, extending hands. Nana dies first, YS follows.
His dream became the reality shown in the scene in the vet's office, he and NaNa staring into each other's eyes, blood covered, hands reaching for each other. In his dream, they die. In the reality, he saves her with the giving of his blood.
So, the writer has addressed this and I think that's the end of that plot-point and further speculation.
Now, folks are arguing that Choi can't be YS's bio-dad. Of course he is - any more "hints" would be silly - i.e., the mutual familial hatred towards those poor, unwanted beans. The fact of both YS and DaHae's picking of their thumbnails when stressed = family trait - the mutual love of all things coffee (NaNa coffee and DaHae wants to be a barista) - those are the "fun" tidbits Writer has given us.
The big ticket items? Target #4 has threatened Choi with the "secret" knowledge he has. YK is plainly hiding YS's parentage from him, JP knows the Choi is the real father. Choi doesn't know that YK had a child by him - until he learned of the child when he had YK in the car asking her about JP. We could plainly see his startled reaction.
Okay - enough blather here - cutting to the chase:
I think the end set-up will have YS, NaNa, Choi, YK and JP together.
JP is threatening Choi, gun in hand, ready to shoot him - frustrated that YS won't kill, even when he tells YS that Choi is his real father who approved the killing of MY. YK comes into the scene, admitting that Choi is the real father, tells what happened in the past regarding her relationship with all three men. JP goes ballistic, goes to shoot Choi, NaNa steps in to protect Choi, YS rushes to save NaNa and Choi. YK turns on JP to stop him, accidentally getting hurt in the process by either bullet or ? and JP realizes what's happened and tries to save her (the only woman he ever loved), with YS teaming with him to save YK (I'm thinking a cliff-type scenario but Writer is too smart to go with that old visual - plus NaNa already did the dangling thing when YS saved her).
Anyway, JP dies, sacrificing himself. Choi discloses the real happenings behind the sweep murders to the public.
Life returns to "normal" with YS and NaNa reunited finally, and remaining in the Blue House. Ajusshi and Mom live with YS (and I hope to All Things Holy - with NaNa in his bed) and our City Hunter and his Flamingo Dreams continues to watch over the city, keeping it safe for all of us!
Now I'm gonna find me a drinky-poo and take a load off.....episode 17 up yet?! :)
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Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM
Sorry - one name error - YK is Kyung-hee (Mommy).
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM
@Cynthia ;)
WOW!!! just WOW!!! now, if the CH writer/s and PDs can read your comment and make it all come true, wouldn't that be just MIND-BLOWING?????!!! ;)
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smashingalou
July 15, 2011 at 7:21 PM
Oh wow, Cynthia!! I was definitely thinking of something like that along the lines..But how you interpret it is simply BRILLIANT!!!..
And oh I'd just like to emphasize this part that I love the most on your prediction...
"Ajusshi and Mom live with YS (and I hope to All Things Holy – with NaNa in his bed) and our City Hunter and his Flamingo Dreams continues to watch over the city, keeping it safe for all of us!"
I'd swear I'd twist my fingers So tight, even if it bleeds to ensure ALL THINGS HOLY will hear us- HE'LL BE WITH NANA IN BED.. :)
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smashingalou
July 15, 2011 at 7:32 PM
Oh and @cynthia dear...I'd just like to add something on your first sentence...
"Okay – this ep 16 thread is probably close to the end for commenting now, but before we finish for the week,"
Cynthia, haven't you heard HOW CRAZY,MADLY IN LOVE with CH the commenters here are?! :) I assure you comments will still pour on this thread until the next episode's recap is up. And it has always been AN UNSPOKEN OATH with us CH Sisters to blast every EVEN NUMBERED EPISODE to reach more than 500 comments. *wink*
And oh, The wait for the next episode is always an AGONY which is why ALL THE LOVELY LADIES here (including you of course) will just keep on commenting, mooning, anticipating, predicting on CH recaps just to pass by the time
That's what you called ADDICTIVE CH/LMH CRAZINESS! *LOL*
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM
ohh this threat is OPEN all weekend long NO CLOSING here....and we will be reaching 500 by sunday.... :D :D
Lets get on board the LMHOT Dream Bus ladies!! the ride is going to be bumpy......but with Maymay counting LMH dimples I think we can make it all alive at the end.. :P :P
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM
@Venus! I am on board since the very beginning!!! Yayyyy!!! soooo happy i have so many sisters on board!!! ;)
LET'S GO, CH LADIES!!! ;)
we are so close to the last stretch, and so before we have to say "So Goodbye", let's SIT BACK, RELAX AND JUST ENJOY THE RIDE!!! ;)
LOVE YOU GALS SO MUCH!!! :)
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 10:04 PM
KDL ...
YESSS this is one HELLA of a RIDE!!!! and I'm enjoying this super ride with all of you LADIES!!!..has been amazing !!!
koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 10:18 PM
@Venus dear ;)
you said it!!! it has been super wonderful riding along with super wonderful ladies in this land of sisters-so-insanely-in-love with CH and LMH... ;)
you know what, i feel pity for those who don't know how good it feels to feel so much love because their hearts are so filled with anger, resentment, jealousy, cynicism, scepticism and everything negative, such that they seem to have lost the ability to feel simple, unadulterated love, as we CH sisters do.... ;)
what is worse if they take offence of our insane love of CH and LMH...
but i am sooooo happy that we CH sisters are not in the least bit bothered by such folks because
NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,
no storm, no harsh words, no meanness, no attempts WHATSOEVER by WHOMEVER
to taint, tarnish, mar, spoil or destroy
our ABSOLUTE, COMPLETE, PURE AND HONEST LOVE FOR CH AND LMH
can even come CLOSE to doing that...
for to us, CH sisters, LOVE makes the world go round and OUR LOVE for CH and LMH is STRONGER THAN ANYTHING THAT THE ANTI-CH WISH TO THROW AT US!!!
GO, CH SISTERS!!! ;)
koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM
@smashingalou ;)
YOU DID IT AGAIN, LOVELY SMASH!!! ;)
you said EXACTLY what is SO TRUE for all CH Hunters the world over - your EVERY SINGLE WORD speaks for EVERY single insanely-in-love-with-CH-and-LMH sister... ;)
MIND-BLOWINGLY ADDICTIVE CH/LMH CRAZINESS...INDEED!!!!! ;)
THANK YOU SO MUCH, SMASH DEAREST!!! ;)
YOU are the BEST!!! ;)
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 1:35 AM
"more than 500 comments"
i'll chip in and try to comment as much as i can
i really love the show'',)
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ILoveCityHunter
July 15, 2011 at 8:01 PM
I like your critical thinking, but I just watched episode 3 and 4 again. The president didn't know about a secret son, and when would he ever tell target #4 about such a secret? The only reason the 5 targets have gathered again is because of the 1983 accident. For the past few years, they haven't made much contact. So why then would the president tell target #4 about a secret son he just discovered? I doubt the president trusts his fellow circle THAT much. If the president didn't know about the secret son but target #4 does, then how would the president know that the secret son is the weapon that target #4 is holding against the president (when they were in the conferences, target #4 keeps making references to the "weakness") if the president just recently found out, unless they had a confrontation that wasn't shown in the drama? I mean, people don't make code names or signals like saying "weakness" if both sides don't know what the other is clearly talking about. I know the writers are dropping hints to us, but a few things don't come together while others do like the beans thing, no pictures of the father, etc.. Another thing is the confrontation in episode 3 and 4. How did the president immediately figure out that the son is HIS son, not the husband, when Kyung Hee didn't even tell him? These are just the few plot holes my mind is pondering over.
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Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 9:18 PM
This is fun! Okay - the President still has no idea that YS is is son.
The "weakness" doesn't need to be YS - it's more than likely Choi's former relationship with Kyung-hee that could threaten his marriage - perhaps something that enabled Choi to attain a political position of some sort in the beginning of his career? Choi keeps referring to "missed opportunities to atone for" - something that Target #4 would know of due to their past history. #4 and JP don't have the same info to use against Choi, but both are equally devastating. #4 has Kyung-hee as his "card" while JP has YS paternity to use, plus the whole "sweeps" machinations and Choi's part in it.
I believe that these two things will be thrown at Choi during the final confrontation.
But if I'm wrong, I'll totally deny any of these theories I've been posting! :)
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ILoveCityHunter
July 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM
WOW! Your analysis makes sense! (Also, I agree that this is so much fun!) You know what I noticed? Dae Hee is younger than Yoon Sung, which MIGHT mean that Choi got married after. However, in the car confrontation of episode 3-4, Kyung Hee didn't drop a single hint to Choi. Don't you find that slightly weird?
By the way, thanks for replying!
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Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 11:55 PM
DaeHee is the youngest of the President's children. :)
Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 9:29 PM
Oh, and I understand your questioning of what I said here - "Choi doesn’t know that YK had a child by him – until he learned of the child when he had YK in the car asking her about JP. We could plainly see his startled reaction."
I'm sorry - it was a poorly structured statement on my part. Choi was startled to find out Kyung-hee had a child who was stolen by JP - not that he concluded the child was his. He still has no idea.
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ILoveCityHunter
July 16, 2011 at 12:08 AM
Exactly! That makes me wonder, how can he deduce what target #4 was talking about in terms of the "weakness"?
priya
July 16, 2011 at 4:31 AM
thanks a looooooooooooot. my heart is at ease now.
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ladida
July 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Now I'm really confused. I agree that it's clear Jin Pyo is going to die, (I mean he has to, he's so evil), but life returning to normal after the president discloses that he was part of the group who murdered 20 some odd marines? Wouldn't the entire Korean government go berserk? Like with Watergate? Or what's happening with the wiretapping scandal in England now? Am I asking for logic/realism in a place that I shouldn't be? I feel like both Dae Hye and Lee Yoon Sung will need intense psychotherapy sessions. How many fathers has this poor guy had? And whatever happened to Nana's dad?
Anyway, it's great to have a show that has us all speculating and so excited to see what its going to do next.
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158 Maymay
July 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM
Dimple Hunting Mission Report #1
Episode 1
1. 36:04
2. 36:44
3. 36:58
4. 37:50
5. 38:05
6. 38:37
7. 44:22
8. 44:43
9. 47:39
10. 54:25
Okay, you guys have to check again to see if I'm correct because sometimes I think I saw his dimple even when he's not smiling. Maybe my mind is tricking me, I'm not sure. Anyway, that's all the dimples I found in this episode. Will be back with report #2 later.
As I was watching episode 1 again, I notice the ring KH gave YS in episode 15 was the same ring she wore in episode one. So maybe MY did give her the ring after all.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM
@Maymay ;)
LOL!!! oh wow!!! you are so awesome!!!
Dimple Hunting Mission???!!! HAHAHA!! ;)
thank u, thank u, thank u, thank u so much!!!! ;)
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM
MAYMAY u are the City Hunter of the week!!...GREAT JOB!!!!! :P :P
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM
@Venus ;)
I CONCUR!!! MAYMAY is THE CITY HUNTER of the week!! ;)
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Maymay
July 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM
@Venus and @kaye
Thank you both for your kind words. However, in my mind LMH will forever be the only CITY HUNTER. So I rather be his girlfriday, that way I can hook up with him. Hehehe!
koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM
@Maymay ;)
yes!! City Hunter's Girlfriday, so that you could BE with him, in every sense of the word.......hehehe....
which makes me wonder....hmmm...how would our dear wonderful hostess, THE Girlfriday, who has confessed to be so in love with CH, feel about another girlfriday to CH? hahaha.... ;)
smashingalou
July 15, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Yey! I third the motion...
MAYMAY, CITY HUNTER OF THE WEEK!!or should we say CITY HUNTRESS?!! :)
*clap,clap*
Should we have a designated CITY HUNTRESS every week then?
TARGET: Oh-so-cute-so-hot-LMH-DIMPLES!!
koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM
@smash ;)
"Should we have a designated CITY HUNTRESS every week then?"
OH YEAH!!! SHALL WE??? esp considering the target is oh sooo sinfully-impossibly-delectable...hehehe... ;)
Corn tea
July 15, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Yay, something to do this weekend to ease my CH addiction. Thanks maymay!
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Celexa
July 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM
omgosh MayMay.. you are so awesome!!
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Hahaha!! And the Dimple Hunting award goes to.... Maymay!! Well, done!!
I'm a bit late, I've just finished watching both episodes and now I've to watch it again because of those dimples! :D
I imagining the members of the Dimpler Hunter Squad ready with pen and paper for the next Dimple Hunting Mission. :)
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159 ILoveCityHunter
July 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM
I watched episode 3 and 4 again in which the president and Kyung Hee meet for the first time in a long time, and she didn't say,"Your son" or whatever. She said,"My child. My son," and he seemed unaware of it! It just doesn't make sense!
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160 b
July 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM
After watching this episode, my brain packed its bags and left. I was able to convince it to come back after I promised things are going to be better next week. I even bought the book Please Look After Mom by Shin Kyung-sook to keep Brain occupied for a couple of days.
I understand why Brain was so upset. I mean Show had been great recently until the last 2 episodes. What particularly irks me is how Prosecutor and Yoon-sung kept dancing around the fact that the former already knew about the latter's secret identity. It was cool at first. Now it's getting kind of tiresome.
At the beginning of Episode 16. I was hoping their exchange would be something like this:
Prosecutor: … Poo Chai.
Yoon-sung: So you know. What are you going to do now? Arrest me?
Prosecutor: Yes, because that's my…
Yoon-sung: Job? Where were you when three of the worst criminals in our history were walking around corrupting our city and our country? May I remind you who brought these men to justice by delivering them to you?
Prosecutor: I don't approve of your methods. You were operating...
Yoon-sung: Above the law? Yes, the very same law you swore to uphold. But yet when it came to your own flesh and blood, it became difficult to enforce, didn't it? You're a hypocrite.
Prosecutor: I'm no more of a hyprocite than you. You think you're so righteous yet you hide behind a mask like a...
Yoon-sung: Common criminal? Whatever crimes I may have committed were more than counterbalanced by whatever good that resulted from them.
Prosecutor: Quit finishing my…
Yoon-sung: Sentences? That goes to show that I'm always one step ahead of you. You do realize we're on the same side. Why don't you help me in this fight instead of opposing me?
Prosecutor: Yes, I guess you're right. We should discuss this..
Yoon-sung: Over a cup of coffee? Sorry, I only drink Nana's coffee. But you can buy me a beer.
Prosecutor: No problem. By the way, what's the deal with your 3 dads? You have..
Yoon-sung: One messed up childhood? Yeah, tell me about it.
To be continued.
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DKM
July 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM
ROFL
You should have posted this before the episode aired not after.
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I LOVE THIS!!!! OMG....wait how about Ajussi he is another dad, wait no he is YS wifey... :P :P
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sm
July 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM
LOL!!! that was great!
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Lidia
July 15, 2011 at 8:57 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!! Brilliant :)
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elle070811
July 15, 2011 at 9:42 PM
that would have been nice if ep16 was the last episode, lol
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Cynthia
July 15, 2011 at 9:34 PM
...and then they kissed!
Hooray for the Bromance! (Wait -- does that mean he'd be cheating on Ajusshi?!)
:) :)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 9:51 PM
NOOOOO!!!! i want CH to kiss NN!!!! ;)
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL poor Ajussi after all the meals he made for YS and he cheats on him....tsk tsk... :P :D
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Shel
July 15, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Ha! Love it!
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Peeps
July 16, 2011 at 12:51 AM
wow! sooo good! seems like you can be the lead scriptwriter for the show CH sissies produce some day!
and keep going...i really want to see it continued...!
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Celexa
July 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Hahahaha! i love this!!! B
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thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 7:51 AM
haha, NICE. This portrays City Hunter in the badass, cheeky, and clever vein that I like him best as.
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Amara
July 17, 2011 at 7:10 PM
LOL OMG that's epic. XD I think at this point, Yoon-sung is just playing with Young-ju, because I'm sure he knows that the prosecutor knows...I have a feeling that Yoon-sung is just doing this to protect Young-ju? Because the father did say that he would kill anyone who found out Yoon-sung's identity....LOL bromance to the max. XD
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b
July 17, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Thanks much for the replies. I just wanted to add that this wasn't a bedroom scene. And Prosecutor wasn't about to handcuff Yoon-sung. And Yoon-sung wasn't wearing his mask. And they weren't about to kiss. So keep these thoughts out of your dirty minds.
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161 ILoveCityHunter
July 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM
I can't wait for episode 17!
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162 elle070811
July 15, 2011 at 10:03 PM
What exactly is in the 1983 NIS file that JP does not want YS to see??? That he was even relieved that CJM got hold of the file instead of YS???
I mean, so what if he discovers that the current president is the 5th man??? I'm sure that record does not contain any paternity secret.
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Venus
July 15, 2011 at 10:08 PM
EXACTLY!! ELLE...great point...from what I understood the 1983 file contains all the information regarding the mission and its failure and the cover up and includes all the people involved.
I guess i'm still on denial on the Bio Dad story..
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 1:50 AM
@ Venus
I'm actually kinda ignoring the bio-dad issue right now because I believe and I want to believe that there is actually more to it than waht is shown so far, lol, whatever...
And about the 1983 files, yes I get that, but what I don't get is that why does not Jinpyo want YS to get hold of the file???What is in the file/record that Jinpyo does not want YS to see??? That is what I'm really curious about...
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163 Maymay
July 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM
LMH Dimple Hunting Mission Report #2
Episode 2
1. 2:27
2. 9:55
3. 10:20
4. 18:57
5. 19:30
6. 25:54 to 26:03 (long sequence of dimples)
7. 41:16
8. 42:45
9. 46:28 to 46:55 (another long sequence of dimples)
10. 47:18
11. 47:30
12. 49:23 to 49:37 (too many dimples)
13. 55:22
14. 55:47
15. 56:40
LMH smiles a lot in this episode and mostly because of Nana. Since there are too many appearances of that cute dimple, I just group them all together. It will be so tiresome to count them all.
Some random thoughts on this episode:
LMH looks so HOT cover in mud.
I really miss that blue car of his.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 10:42 PM
@Maymay!!!! LOL!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! ;)
OH MY GOD!!!! i died laughing at your list and comments!!! ;)
you are TOO AWESOME for words!!! ;)
thank you so much once again!!! ;)
*off to rewatch EVERY SINGLE ADORABLE DIMPLE*
aaaaahhhhhhh....i'm in dimple HEAVEN!!! ;)
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Maymay
July 15, 2011 at 10:56 PM
I'm glad you like it. I will work on report #3 tomorrow. It's bedtime for me now. I'll definitely be dreaming of LMH sexy dimples tonight.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 15, 2011 at 11:36 PM
@Maymay ;)
thank you so much, dearie!! sweet dreams!! ;)
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thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 7:52 AM
sexy dimples...LOL
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Peeps
July 16, 2011 at 1:01 AM
@Maymay
thank you sooo much!
it was for me that the Dimple Hunting Squad was formed in the first place. i'm so honoured!!
makes me want to watch the show all over again!
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Celexa
July 16, 2011 at 11:33 AM
You're just too valuable MayMay!! I'm compiling your reports to keep next to me when i watch the series again! I love your determination!
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Oh, Maymay! That simply brightens up my day. Thank you! Looking forward to more reports. :)
If LMH was my main meal, Choi Siwon is my side dish. (just watched a cute episode of Oh! My Lady). His got dimples too... EEEKKKSS.... dimples overload!! :D
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164 jat
July 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM
the president is the real dad, that shocked me... but i think the president knows that he has a son
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jat
July 15, 2011 at 10:40 PM
opps scratch that I think he doesnt know about his son, kyung hee didnt tell him
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165 Corn tea
July 15, 2011 at 10:41 PM
I have got a theory about the photo frame.
YS asked Ajusshi to buy it so he can frame a photo of MY dad for mom.
He knows Ajusshi likes to buy buy, so there will be several shipments of photo frames coming. YS can pick one for MY's picture, and what else can he do with the other frames?
Yup, pick one to replace the broken frame that holds the only picture of him and NN.
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 1:51 AM
lol
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zhiying
July 16, 2011 at 5:59 AM
agreed, i bet the frame is actualy for his picture with nana :)
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166 What
July 16, 2011 at 12:33 AM
Wait. WTF just happened.
How many "dad's" is YS gonna have. How does that even work?
The ending of this episode.... What....
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167 karecity
July 16, 2011 at 2:55 AM
can anyone of you nice commentors explain to me the significance of dahye going rock climbing? cos i was highly annoyed by her hair which was blonde in one scene, much darker in the rock climbing scene, then blonde again infront of the cafe where nana got hit by eggs. and i couldnt find a significant reason for the scene to be there.
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malta
July 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM
Da hye can be funny, but honestly I don't get the point of her character at all...someone for Nana and her partner to guard...I have no idea why they went rock climbing.
Also those people who threw eggs at Da hye at that cafe would have been arrested if that happened in real life as opposed to Kdrama land.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 10:20 PM
@karecity
i think Da Hye's character is just a plot-device for there to be a reason for YS and NN to be constantly in contact : both YS and NN are Blue House employess, NN becomes DH's bodyguard, while YS becomes DH's tutor...
maybe the fact that DH is also the President's daughter is also a plot-device on the family front for YS IF the President does turn out to be YS's biological father...
as for the reason for the rock-climbing and the different hair colour, i believe they are just drama-fillers, more to support NN's role as DH's bodyguard, not so much for DH's character devt...
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168 jack
July 16, 2011 at 6:03 AM
love this series much!! praying for a season 2!! ",)
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169 koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 6:54 AM
I find it immensely interesting to note that the possibility of a tragic ending whereby YS and NN will be facing each other, with their firearms trained on each other, as a result of the tragic twist of fate that brought them to that end, is considered 'LAME' by some commentors...
perhaps to some people such a scenario is so far-fetched and airy-fairy that it could not possibly ever come true, thus justifying calling its part in the plot of CH as 'LAME'...
maybe it is due to the varying degrees of people's personal experiences that caused them to consider such a scenario as 'LAME'...
Perhaps such commentors could answer the following questions :
i. Ever heard of the saying : 'Art imitating life'?
The fact that there is such a saying is because there is an element of truth in it. Dramas and films more often than not take their inspiration from real-life events/incidents. And just because we ourselves may have never experienced it, does not mean that it could not possibly have happened to anyone else. Speaking from personal experience, I have witnessed such a nightmarish scenario myself not long ago and there is nothing ‘LAME’ about being a witness to such a traumatic incident. Thus there is nothing ‘LAME’ about this scenario being written into CH.
ii. Ever experienced the possibility of losing the one we love forever?
Some commentors commented that the love story between YS and NN should be killed asap so that the plot can go back to the blood and gore of the revenge-seeking, blood-thirsty egomaniacal machinations of the other characters in CH.
I guess the experience of having to walk away from the ones we love for the sake of their lives is one which some people have never had to endure. And I hope none of the commentors in this blog ever will because having been through just such an experience, I have to say, it was as if I had died.
In fact, it was a fate worse than death because at least in death there is an end to the suffering. But surviving from day-to-day with the constant, unrelenting, excruciating pain of missing our loved ones and not knowing if we will ever see one another again before we depart this world – could anything be worse than that? And I am not the ONLY person who has ever experienced such a fate nor will I be the last.
And thus the scenes depicting the dilemma faced by YS in his relationship with NN, the struggle between the heart and the mind, the heartrendingly impossible choices and decisions to be made, the inevitable pain and suffering – they are all too REAL for me.
And to simply KILL it with a single strike, so to speak, just so we could go back to the matter-at-hand – the revenge – is not just cold-blooded, but also very sad. It is really sad to note that in our relentless pursuit of instant gratification and ever more clinical forms of success, we may very well have lost our humanity in the process. For what makes a human HUMAN, other than having the HEART and the forbearance to feel for the intangibles, subtleties, ambiguities, uncertainties, unpredictabilities that life has to offer?
City Hunter as a drama, with the skilful handling of its writer/s and cast and crew, has managed to impress me with its execution so far (and I have faith that it will end just as impressively) because if nothing else, it has touched my heart in ways I never thought a drama could and as a result of all the comments made by the commentors in this blog on it, has allowed me a greater, invaluable insight into the human psyche.
No matter where the writer/s, PDs, cast and crew will take CH or how CH will be brought to its inevitable conclusion, I am at this juncture, truly gratified and thankful I had been given the privilege to be a City Hunter viewer. City Hunter has forever changed my perspective on drama-watching and I am the better for it. Thank you, City Hunter cast and crew. You have truly been unforgettable. ;)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 7:05 AM
a correction :
"City Hunter as a drama, with the skilful handling BY its writer/s and cast and crew..."
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Maymay
July 16, 2011 at 8:17 AM
@kaye
AMEN!!!!!!!
I agree with you 100%!!!
I think YS relationship with Nana, his mother, Ajusshi, his co-worker at the Blue House, and each of the victims of his 4 targets show his humanity and they serve as his conscience and keep him from going over to the dark side. Without these people or without his tragic love story with Nana, YS will just be another JP hell-bent on revenge. I understand people desire to just see more actions and less talking, but every hero needs to have someone in their lives to keep them grounded and to remind them what they are fighting for everyday. Superman has Lois Lane, Batman has someone, Spiderman has Mary Jane, even the X-Men have significant others, so why are we begrudging our City Hunter his own true love?
I just hope it will not end badly for YS because he really deserves a happy ending. Besides, we need our City Hunter alive and well to continue to carry out justice for us.
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Archie
July 16, 2011 at 8:29 AM
lol... Batman has someone.... that got me cracking :). But yes.. every hero needs someone to come home to :) That helps them keep from going overboard while dealing with the miscreants.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 8:45 AM
@Maymay ;)
my humblest appreciation for your kind appreciation of my humble opinion ;)
and AMEN to your words as well, Maymay dear...
thank you so much for articulating EXACTLY what was on my mind abt the need for YS to be grounded and as a reminder to him the reason he is doing all the fighting... ;)
and i agree with you abt the need for a blissful ending for YS because he more than deserves it... ;)
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170 malta
July 16, 2011 at 8:14 AM
So it's 2 day's later and I am still angsting over City Hunter. I just wanted to add this comment. I'm pasting it *almost) verbatim from a comment I made on Soompi.
Yes, I'm quoting myself... ~.~
"If the president is YS father then City Hunter has the same plot as Can You Hear my Heart! I said it first! (I think..)
CYHMH- Tae Yeon Suk (Cha Dong joo's mom) raises her enemy's secret son, Bong Ma roo, and uses him to exact her revenge on her enemy, Choi Jin chul, unbeknownst to the son.
City Hunter- Jin Pyo raises his enemy's secret son, Lee Yoon sung, and uses him to exact revenge on his enemy, the president, unbeknownst to the son.
City Hunter and CYHMH officially have the same plot!...
Now, CYHMH is an absolute gem of a show and the way they executed and revealed the plot, including the birth secret, reinforced the narrative structure of the story. But on City Hunter this birth secret seems to be undercutting the narrative structure of the origin story and throwing everything into chaos.
I think the key difference btw the birth secret in these 2 shows (besides the difference in genres, family revenge melodrama vs. action revenge thriller...sometimes rom com) is that that on CYHMH the audience knew who Ma roo's real father was even though Ma roo didn't. By keeping the audience in the loop we were able to participate in the anticipation/dread of the reveal of the secret, but with City Hunter, even though there were some clues the audience was kept as much in the dark as Yoon sung.
If the show had let the audience know that the president was City Hunter's father earlier then we could have been clued in to things the City Hunter would not have been, but Jin Pyo and the president would have been. That, in my humble opinion, is better storytelling overall as opposed to keeping the audience in the dark and going for somewhat of a shock factor.
...well I guess my City Hunter obsession continues. This show is gonna leave me exhausted. My fingers hurt from typing...
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 8:37 AM
@malta ;)
perhaps BECAUSE the plot of both CYHMH and CH are similar, CH's writer/s and PDs have chosen to take a different route in its execution from that taken by CYHMH...
as to which one is a better way of telling the story, that to me is a highly subjective matter, because different viewers have different preferences and viewpoints and personally, I am of the viewpoint that being different does not necessarily mean being less impressive...
let's give CH the benefit of the doubt, give it room to shine and who knows, we may be in for a pleasant surprise?
but even if it eventually does not surprise us or even ended up disappointing us in some way, at the very least it has been able to impress us for this long into the series - which in itself is a rare feat, considering how very few K-dramas have managed to accomplish what CH has accomplished so far. ;)
thus, however CH's writer/s and PDs choose to reveal all of its remaining chips, I will say it here and now, I WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED, because for me, City Hunter has outdone itself most impressively, even with 4 episodes left to go. ;)
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malta
July 16, 2011 at 11:25 AM
I've thoroughly enjoyed City Hunter so I hope I haven't given off the impression that I haven't. I wouldn't spend so much time thinking about and commenting on something I don't care for.
I'm just a big fan of storytelling so what happens in the story and how it plays out is really important to me and I like to think about it, write about and contemplate how it affects the story. Basically I'm a nerd...for kdramas. :)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 11:35 AM
@malta ;)
oh, malta, dear ;)
i hope i did not give the impression that i was admonishing you for your opinion or that i was disagreeing with you...not at all... ;)
i believe i have mentioned this before - never apologise for your passion and belief in anything that you've invested so much of your time, attention or effort in... ;)
i was just responding to your comment above abt the plot but i was not in any way judging you or wanting to belittle your comment/effort/judgement... ;)
if my comment came off as offensive, i apologise sincerely, malta ;)
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malta
July 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM
Nothing but love here :D
koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 4:23 AM
@malta ;)
same here ;)
171 Archie
July 16, 2011 at 8:24 AM
"Ahh, I knew those beans would have to mean something!"
- My thoughts exactly!!!
as for the back-story, i think the current prez had an affair with YS's Omma, but had to be married to wifey due to some reason. He didnt know that he begot a son. MY married Omma knowing the situation. And Chairman Chun obviously knows this story. JP stole YS to get the "cruelest revenge ever"
Now we'l just have to see whether JP has any fatherly affection in his heart and will give up on the revenge plan out of those affectionate feelings.
There is a small chance that he will, seeing as he knows that the prez was against Operation Clean Sweep.
As for JP being sort of like Dumbledore, without the soul or the good intentions..... after reading book 7 , i didnt feel Dumbledore had a clean soul and good intentions either XD. He was just an old man using a baby as a means to an end...
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172 giddygirl108
July 16, 2011 at 8:47 AM
Love the HP reference, btw. Dunno if I'm a fan of the birth secret as well but it does make for deliciously complicated mishap.
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173 shevie21
July 16, 2011 at 8:50 AM
even if it is a cliche, I happen to like the 3 daddies twist (except for the fact that it doesn't put the mom in a good light, for now anyways). it's bitter sweet for me cuz u realize YS just being used by JP which erases any sympathy i felt for him (was hoping 4 a nice father son relationship at the end between YS n JP). I didn't expect him 2 b this cruel but it better explain y it has 2 b YS (he could jus hire someone else to take out d 5 with much better results than YS mind u). And now that MY isn't his father YS actually has an out from the revenge plot - something i secretly wished for, though it wouldn't b good 4 d storyline :). i like how the story isn't as predictable as i thought it'd be. figures crossed for a good ending.
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sweetspring
July 16, 2011 at 9:41 AM
i second shevie21 last line FINGERS CROSSED FOR A GOOD ENDING!!!! we, CH fanatics, invested far too much time, emotion & speculation (well as far as our family & friends who've noticed this addiction would say) into our not-so-shitty hunter these past few weeks & we would love our dear actors who have worked their butts off (esp. one fine butt belonging to a certain Mr. Lee) to make this drama the best it can be to not have worked in vain and see a shitty ending to city hunter.
so please everyone lets have our fingers crossed for the last 4 episodes that while perfection is unobtainable & everyone can't be pleased & we may have set our expectations a little too high, lets all have be optimistic that CH won't let us down!!! CH fighting!!!
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elle070811
July 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM
very well said sweetspring...smiled while reading ur comment
"so please everyone lets have our fingers crossed for the last 4 episodes that while perfection is unobtainable & everyone can’t be pleased & we may have set our expectations a little too high, lets all have be optimistic that CH won’t let us down!!!"
yes!! lets do that...
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174 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
July 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM
How do I know ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY,
FOR SURE, that Yoon-sung (LMH) will NOT
die at the end of City Hunter?
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SBS will broadcast Season/ Part 2.
There isn't enough time....NOW....for the
delivery to Korean and world-wide stores
of "The Official City Hunter Pink Flamingo"
stuffed animal, as personally endorsed by
Lee Min-ho, and manufactured by Trugen,
which will bring in tons of $$$$$ money $$$$$.
~
I humbly accept all of your "Thank You"'s. :)
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175 Lise
July 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM
then the dad (fake dad that is) is even more cruel than i imagined. in the end its gonna be the fathers vs son showdown...City Hunter does not deserve that, i say just get Nana, mom and ahjussi and disappear back to Thailand or sth!!! leave the fathers to sort out their issues!
This drama is gonna leave me with plenty of swollen eyes, i can smell that from miles away!!!
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176 jenny
July 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM
so....this is going to be a tragedy?
...i'm gonna be screwed
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177 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
July 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM
How do I know ABSOLUTELY, POSIVIVELY,
FOR SURE, that Yoon-sung (LMH) will not
die at the end of "City Hunter?"
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"City Hunter" Season / Part 2
There isn't enough time...NOW...to manufacture
and distribute to Korean and world-wide stores:
"The Officially Authorized CH Pink Flamingo"
stuffed animal, as endorsed by SBS, sewn by
Trugen and sold with an autographed photo
of Lee Min-ho, making the fashion statement
of the year. (Uhhhhhh, the flamingo won't be
wearing socks, either.)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 7:18 PM
LOL!!! grace, you are too unbelievably funnnyyy!!! ;)
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Cynthia
July 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM
OMG - I would buy one SO totally fast!!!
:)
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178 Little Lulu
July 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Yoonsung and Nana'a break-up was heartbreaking than my own break-up. *Pool of tears*
And yes, now we are clear! Let's see hoe Show will pull the end off! This is really one hell of a ride I'm definitely loving it forever!
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 4:21 AM
@Little Lulu ;)
yes, let's take this wild ride of a drama together till the very end!! ;)
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179 koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Not to be a wet blanket or a bringer of bad news but thought of sharing something i noticed about the OSTs of K-dramas...
i noticed that for the K-dramas that ended with a tragedy, the main title tracks in those dramas were reflective of the ending - very sad, melancholic, dark, gloomy and heartbreaking...
what i notice abt City Hunter's main title tracks is, except for 2 of the tracks, the rest of the tracks, are heartbreakingly sad, melancholic- and gloomy-sounding...
from 'Love', to 'Suddenly', to 'So Goodbye', to 'Lonely Day', to 'It's Alright' and the instrumentals, ALL of them are of that genre... :(
oh, i certainly hope that, this time, City Hunter will be THE drama that is an exception to the rule...
and will end happily for the characters... :(
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grace, the one from Jersey, USA
July 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Uh, oh, koreandramalover. :(
This definitely sounds like we're going
to need some ~ Pancakes of Sadness! ~
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Thanks again, javabeans, for creating such a
spectacular web site for all of us crazy people
to meet here!
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM
@grace ;)
i know, right? i have already prepared my bucket...my tears will need that big a container in order NOT to flood my home... ;)
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Cynthia
July 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM
PANCAKES OF SADNESS?!?!
My hubby (KHJ) still requests them upon occasion.....
:) :) :)
(You are too funny!)
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180 Little Lulu
July 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM
This should not be so cool, but it is — and how much do I love that even with bodies strewn on the ground, the injured protestors still look up with moony eyes at His Hotness?
You're the best, JB!
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181 Maymay
July 16, 2011 at 1:04 PM
LMH Dimple Hunting Mission Report #3
Episode 3
1. 13:19 (very brief but it's there)
2. 26:28 (so cute)
3. 27:19 (I'm in LOVE)
4. 27:34
5. 27:49
6. 29:28
7. 29:43
8. 36:58
9. 47:38
10. 54:57
11. 1:02:44
12. 1:02:50
I'm in dimples heaven. I love doing this mission. Now I have a legitimate excuse to stare at LMH face all day. Hmm, it seems LMH's dimple is only on his left cheek. I still have not seen one on the right cheek yet.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 7:13 PM
@Maymay ;)
OH. MY. GOD. and i thought your earlier Dimple Hunting Missing lists were enough to send me into a trance...but...this list....aaahhhh...
dimple heaven, indeed!!! ;)
i love you, Maymay, for indulging us with your love for LMH's dimple... ;)
and YOU ARE RIGHT!!! his dimple is only on his cheek... ;)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 7:14 PM
@Maymay
sorry, a typo : his dimple is only on his LEFT cheek ;)
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 10:44 AM
@ Maymay... what?! only the left cheek? That can't be right! ;)
After all this talk about LMH's dimple, I forgot someone else whose got cute dimples on both cheeks... HUBBY!! Sorry, hubs. And my son... oooh... potential LMH features? LOL!
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:55 PM
@tuqaz!! how lucky you are!!! your hubby and son with dimples on both cheeks???!!! ;)
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM
@ kdl... little princess' ones are much more deeper. She once told me that she doesn't like to have "holes" on her face. :D Everybody in the family has got them , except me! Oh well, if I don't have them, I'll produce them on my kids. I'll be the dimple producing factory. HAHAHA!! :D
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koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM
@tuqaz...oh wow!!! your little angel is soooo lucky!!! deep dimples on BOTH cheeks!!! what i wouldn't do to get dimples, shallow or deep, on both cheeks or either...but alas...none in my family has got them... ;)
"I'll be the dimple producing factory." HAHAHA!!!! ;)
how great is that???!!! hahaha!!! so...how many have you thought about producing? hehehe... ;)
tuqaz
July 18, 2011 at 1:57 AM
@ kdl... she's the dimpled one. She has even got one just below her right eye, not to mention at the corners of her mouth. I keep telling her, it makes her look pretty. We're (my sisters and I) are so jealous of her. :)
We plan to have one or two more, that'll be 4 dimples, at least. HAHAHA!! :D
koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 4:00 AM
@tuqaz ;)
wow...your very own dimple heaven...each time you gaze at your lovely, dimpled hubby and children...so heavenly, no? ;)
Carlye
July 22, 2011 at 11:14 PM
A few years ago I'd have to pay soomene for this information.
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182 exorhaha
July 16, 2011 at 3:44 PM
waaaaaaaait, why did everyone started saying the president is his real dad???
Did I miss something between ep 14-16? O_O
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Archie
July 17, 2011 at 4:57 AM
aah... i think u missed some hints thrown about here n there.. have a looksie at the expertly written recap n maybe u'l think the same?? or maybe some other theory may come to mind?? ^^
♥CH♥
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183 beggar1015
July 16, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Me again, reporting from Left Field.
We pretty much know what the relationship between the Prez and City Hunter is going to be. Still, I wouldn't be at all upset if the writers are manipulating us viewers into thinking we 've figured out what's going to happen and then BAM! it turns out he's NOT the real father. Let there be another secret concerning the President and YS's mother. Maybe she's a North Korean double agent or something. I wouldn't mind it at all.
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Archie
July 17, 2011 at 4:58 AM
lol! really freaky theory ^^
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Archie
July 17, 2011 at 4:59 AM
and ofcourse... i wouldn't mind it either ^_^
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ladida
July 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM
Totally would not mind. That'd be pretty interesting, actually. Thing is, if Prez s the dad, then why wouldn't Kyung Hee immediately go to him and be like, "He's your son. You're the president. Go find him." Right? Am I trying to hard to avoid something inevitable?
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184 Aranea
July 16, 2011 at 7:28 PM
RED HERRING ALERT!
"something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; a misleading clue." quoted from Dictionary.com
I believe that we call agree that the writers of City Hunter have done an excellent job thus far. They have blessed us with a story that is compelling and unpredictable. They have made all to the characters believable, in the context of this story. The letter opener scene between Jin-pyo and Yoon-sung is a perfect example. Did anyone see that coming? My guess is heck NO. As javabeans stated "Even Jin-pyo looks stunned." That was the first time that I remember Jin-pyo looking like he was not in complete control. As the writers, actors and PD have proven thus far, this is not your average drama (NOTE: I do NOT know what PD stands for, but javabeans and girlfriday often post news about them. I thought that I would sound more intelligent if I used the acronym. Drat, I should not have admitted that.).
The scene between Kyung-hee and President Choi is my most convincing argument against the illegitimate son theory. Assuming that President Choi was unaware that he had a son, do you think that Kyung-hee would have continued to hide her son's true identity. This disclosure would have guaranteed President Choi's, the most powerful man in South Korea, immediate assistance. If I have learned anything from watching Korean Dramas, Korean Mothers are a force to be reckoned with. Assuming that President Choi was aware that he had a son, do you think Kyung-hee would have behaved as she did? She is ready to die because she believes her kidnapped son is dead, but is now too polite to remind President Choi about their kidnapped son. She might have even threatened to go public with the information to gain his assistance. Remember the most powerful man in South Korea, but still accountable to the people. I once watch a drama where a Korean Mom (switched to informal) took on a bear and kicked it's butt. Just think about Sam Soon's mom, Park Bong-sook (Kim Ja Ok) no bear would stand a chance against her.
Hopefully, I have presented a strong argument that a least provokes some additional thought on the matter. My comments about Korean Mothers were intended to be compliments concerning their outstanding character and strength. Please do NOT be offended by them, but rather blame my inadequate writing skills.
Long time reader, second time writer…
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 8:01 PM
@Aranea
may i just say that your writing is just as compelling as the matter on which you wrote... ;)
thank you so much for providing a fresh, alternate perspective on an irresistibly-seductive plot development... ;)
aaaahhhh...it is a testament to the awesome work accomplished by City Hunter's writer/s and PDs that SO many possibilities, perspective and ideas have been generated by commentors and viewers on its plot development...
we have all been seduced by City Hunter's irresistible appeal that caused us to be THAT interested to put forward endless potential plot twists and turns...
now if THAT is not what we can judge as City Hunter's success as a drama, I do not know what is... ;)
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Aranea
July 16, 2011 at 8:06 PM
Since, you also used the acronym PD, do you know what it stand for? Searching in google for two (2) letter acronyms is kind of useless.
Thank you for your replay and hopefully the other thing too...
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 8:16 PM
@Aranea ;)
if memory serves me right, someone answered just such a question and the answer was PD stands for Producer/Director... ;)
i suppose K-dramas's Producers double-up as Directors as well... ;)
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malta
July 16, 2011 at 10:02 PM
I'm hoping the bio-daddy thing is a ginormous red herring, but as the week wears on I'm slowly just accepting that the president is going to be YS dad as a way to prepare myself for the last episodes. I can't even formulate coherent speculations about this anymore.
I will say that the KH thing was something I noticed and didn't understand. We still don't know what she did to try to find her son after JP kidnapped him. Unless I'm mistaken, since she had the note from JP she knew who kidnapped her baby. Right?
...I really fell in love with KH, MY, and YS as a happy family even if it was only for that one day in the hospital when they were all together back in 83'. I hope the show doesn't just blow that all to pieces...Also I love KH and I hate thinking she was caught up in affairs and multiple dads etc. because that would be so disappointing since she seems like such a good person/mom whose suffered for so long.
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Aranea
July 17, 2011 at 2:31 PM
@ koreandramalover/kdl/kaye & malta
Kyung-hee is a mother who has had her new born son kidnapped by her missing husband's best friend, Jin-pyo. She is still living in the same house. Afraid to move. Moving might result in Jin-pyo and, by extension, her son not being able to find her. She has no family. She runs a small snack bar which would imply that most of her clients are young. She can not prepare food for her son so she has chosen to prepare food for other peoples children. We know that she has become a surrogate Mother for Na Na. How many other children has she watched over for the last twenty-eight years? The scene with Yoon-sung, Na Na, Da-hae and Eun-ah is also very telling. She is serving them at her snack stand treating them more like her children than customers. She even offers to remake Yoon-sung's meal because he has not eaten. She looks hurt when he leaves without eating it, even though he has left a generous tips. Later when in the hospital receiving cancer treatment, she is very aware of Yoon-shik's circumstances. He is not her son, but it is apparent from her few words that she is concerned about him. Needless to say she is women to be admired.
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MY SUPPOSITIONS
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- Chun's dirt on President Choi is unrelated to Yoon-sung's birth.
- President Choi was NOT part of the decision to execute the 20 at Nampo Bay.
- Chun deliberately left President Choi out because he would have objected.
- President Choi was made aware of the killings after the task was complete.
- President Choi allowed it to be covered-up, did not raise his hand.
- I do NOT like beans, therefore I am President Choi's illegitimate child.
- My sense of humor will someday get me in trouble while writing a comment.
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Thank you for taking the time to read my comments...
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Celexa
July 17, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Aranea
1. President Choi DID not take part in the decision... it was already made when he went into the meeting... he fought against it but it was 4 against one and he was forced to keep quiet since it was a black ops mission.
2. The cover up mission was already in process when Pres Choi found out about it... there was no turning back. Again the black ops mission was covered up because Korean's US ally did not want to be implicated in an assassination mission against Chinese backed N. Korean President.
3. President's Choi's hands were tied by politics... his guilt is that he could not keep his word to the men he promised to protect.
4. Kyun Hee is a mother who loves her child... her past does not change the fact that she was the victim in this political play.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM
@Aranea
i agree with you that Kyung-hee is an admirable, honourable and strong lady, who is, by any definition, a victim in the cruel machinations of the people around her...
BUT she does not herself to BE victimised because she did not use a single cent of the money Jin-pyo sent to her after he cruelly kidnapped her child from her...
she worked to support herself and managed to save her hard-earned money for when she will be reunited with her child but when she was lied to by Jin-pyo that her child is dead, she donated her hard-earned money to help sponsor the studies of under-privileged children...
now if that is not an example of a strong, independent and compassionate woman, then i don't know what is...
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM
a typo : but she does not ALLOW herself to BE victimised...
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM
@ Aranea
"Chun’s dirt on President Choi is unrelated to Yoon-sung’s birth". The way I see it, nothing is related to YS. JP just dragged an innocent child to do all his dirty work, because he's such a selfish coward.
"I do NOT like beans, therefore I am President Choi’s illegitimate child." I don't like beans also, we could be half siblings to YS. Noooo.... :D
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM
"JP just dragged an innocent child to do all his dirty work, because he’s such a selfish coward."
HERE, HERE!!! thank you, tuqaz, dear!!! you said it!!!
i echo your every word!!! ;)
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185 Burekspopper
July 16, 2011 at 8:07 PM
I have a strong feeling Lee Min Ho's gonna die in the end... Because in the earlier episodes he has been giving hints.. ;(
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186 corn tea
July 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM
i miss the vet, please bring her back. i want to see YJ and the vet get back together in the end.
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 8:19 PM
somebody needs to get shot and be brought to the vet to remove the bullet. YJ perhaps? And they'll fall in love again and live happily ever after. :D
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:26 PM
@tuqaz ;)
yes!! yes!! somebody needs to be severely physically harmed and the smoulderingly-sexy-lady-knight-in-a-pure-white-gown will come to the rescue... ;)
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187 koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 8:47 PM
A YouTube video on the heart-and-soul-breaking-crushing separation scene at the fountain between the romantic leads YS and NN :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qybPcpuBfU
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM
@ kdl... I think there is a lesson to be learnt here. This is how to break up with someone you love. YS already knows he's hurting NN and he doesn't want to hurt her even more. As for NN, she wants to be the one to hurt, not YS. It just breaks my heart... :(
Whereas in real life, it would be revenge time!! It's "you break up with me, I'm going to make sure you and your family suffers" or "if I can't have you, no one will" or make the ex's future boyfriends/girlfriends suffer, because you're suffering. Or are those drama scenarios? ;)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM
@tuqaz ;)
i agree with you totally...both YS and NN are so selfless in their relationship - both wanting to spare the other the pain and suffering, and so willingly shoulder the pain themselves... ;)
as for your comment in the 2nd para, i believe that such scenarios DO happen in real life, which is why dramas have them all the time, but perhaps for dramatic purposes, some of the scenarios may be overly dramatic, but there is a saying : truth can be stranger than fiction...and so don't be surprised to know that some of the craziest things people do for 'love' are not found in dramas but in REAL LIFE...
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 7:58 PM
@ kdl... and people just want to create drama in their lives by doing what is in the dramas. I do know of people who are easily influence by what they see on tv. *sigh*
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:23 PM
@tuqaz ;)
i concur!!! it is like the saying : life imitating art. people who are so influenced by what they see in REEL life, and couldn't, or wouldn't, stop themselves from carrying it all into REAL life...
i have seen so much of it in my hubby's work - some of the things that people do defy logic/convention or just plain, simple defiance or due to a lack of human decency/propriety...very sad...
188 Maymay
July 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM
LMH Dimple Hunting Mission Report #4
Episode 4
1. 13:48
2. 14:41
3. 14:52
4. 17:57
5. 24:24
6. 45:27
7. 45:36
8. 46:55
9. 47:01
Aww, there's only 9 dimples in this episode. That's probably because Daddy JP is back in town. Daddy JP is such a party pooper. Boo Hoo! I want more pimples!!!!
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Maymay
July 16, 2011 at 10:38 PM
Oops! Typo!!!
I mean "I want more dimples!!!"
Geez, I don't need any more pimples.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 16, 2011 at 11:11 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!! I second you : "I don't need ANY pimples"
thanks again, Maymay dearest!!!
your list is something i look forward to seeing so much!! ;)
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM
HAHAHA!! “I don’t need ANY pimples” You could always get a facial like the one target no. 4 was having. The only part of this episode that I laughed. :D
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM
@tuqaz!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! I know, right? A guy getting a facial?? Wow, so metrosexual...
And yes, it is the only part of this episode that i managed a smile... ;)
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 9:42 PM
@ kdl. and at that age?! I've never had one, not even for my wedding, so for me that was hilarious.
I wonder if LMH goes for facials? HAHAHA!! ;)
koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 12:52 AM
@tuqaz...yeah at that age???? yeah, i have never gone for facials either, not even for my wedding...hehehe...
i think LMH did say in an interview that he tries to look after his skin but not sure if he ever mentioned going for facials...hehehe... ;)
but for a guy in the entertainment industry, he does need to look good all the time or risk losing out to competition...
just part of the job
tuqaz
July 18, 2011 at 2:36 AM
@ kdl... yeah, I guess that's part of his job. Us ahjummas, we don't need it. We can get a facial every time we open the rice cooker and steam our faces. HAHAHA!! :)
Nobody compares to LMH! ;)
koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 3:56 AM
@tuqaz ;)
"Us ahjummas, we don’t need it. We can get a facial every time we open the rice cooker and steam our faces."
HAHAHA!!!! how right you are!!!! facials at no cost or hassle and oh so effective... ;)
LMH is indeed so blessed with his oh-so-swoon-worthy looks, voice and height...
but you know...even the best looking will lose their good looks as they age...but what lasts is what is in the heart...and so i hope LMH remains good at heart as he seems to be now... ;)
having lived this long and been through so much of life's trials and tribulations and met all kinds of people, i have to say - i feel blessed with all that God has blessed me with and i do not envy others for what they have been blessed with because God is Fair and each of us is blessed with something others do not have... ;)
i live by this principle - look at those who are less well-off than us, not at those who are more well-off, so that we can be thankful for what we have been blessed with, and those who are thankful, God will bless them even more... ;)
189 Anne
July 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM
omg the comments/recap just made me un-clueless about this whole YS father thing. dayum. this is just a MAJOR TWIST.
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190 Nheony
July 16, 2011 at 11:17 PM
If this is really a birth secret, I'm wondering if Jin Pyo really knows the whole truth even from the start. If he knows that LYS is President Choi's son. If that was the reason why he took him from LKH and raised him for revenge. Jin Pyo probably views this as poetic justice for what happened.
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191 Yongshim
July 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Hmmm.... It all makes sense now président is yoon sungs dad with all the hints given out in each épisode like the beans, pic, and the mom yay but still séide for dae hie sad for her like really but i love how we reached 500 comments this is definetly the longest otp ever i love dramabeans.
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192 dkm
July 16, 2011 at 11:38 PM
I think YS broke up with NN because he realized his mortality and also what he did in Thailand. He is the drug lord's son so even if he lived thru the revenge plan, he still has to pay for his crimes unless JP does it. That is why he said “I’d forgotten who I was for a moment.”
I think JP wants to make it so that Target 4 is the drug lord. That is what he is plotting.
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193 YBisTOP
July 17, 2011 at 3:05 AM
What birth secrets are these people talking about? I'm so lost! Yoon Sung is NOT the president's son, but why are people saying he is?!! This is getting on my nerves. Someone, help me out here.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 4:07 AM
@YBisTOP
Calm down. ;)
I believe the best way to be sure of any revelations in CH is to wait for the upcoming episodes and watch them.
All the speculations and guesses by the commentors here are just that - speculations and guesses. The ones who really hold the cards are the writer/s and PDs.
Let's just wait and see and allow them to show us what exactly they have in store for us plot-wise. ;)
That's the best for all our hearts. ;)
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194 Grace Lee
July 17, 2011 at 5:08 AM
I'm hoping for a good ending. Can't wait for episode 17.
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grace, the one from Jersey, USA
July 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Hello ~
To one of the other "Grace"-s around here!
:)
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195 divyrus
July 17, 2011 at 5:29 AM
Okay Seriously NOTHING MAKES SENSE!
This 3 dads story is not making sense at all!!
If we take prez to be dad and a love affair did exist, how come the prez didnt even react a little when Kyung hee told prez that Jin Pyo stole his son?!??!
Their interaction was not affair like, just friend like mixed with respect for his power.
Lets take even if prez didn't know, how come Jin Pyo knew then??!??
Even kyung hee gave no indication that Prez was the father while talking in car... Maybe she didnt want him to know??!??!
So Jin pyo and Kyung hee alone knows??? Then MY??!?!
Where did he come from???????
And why did Jin Pyo send her romantic music in hospital?!??!
And how can BIRTH SECRET BE IN A SECRET DOCUMENT?!?!?
Even if yoon sung sees the document or the album, he is gonna find MY's face and think he is his father.
So wHY IS IT SUCH A BIG THING????
The only way its gonna be revealed is if someone out of three tells something!!!! And judging from prez reaction, he doesnt know he had a child, and kyung hee doesnt wanna tell at all and JP said he would rather have that document disappear than have yoon sung read it! SO HOW THE HELL DOES IT MAKE A CRUEL REVENGE WHEN NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING!??!???!
THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL.
Where does that leave Kyung Hee 's character???
She married one, had baby with another and the third has liked her forever. SERIOUSLY MESSED UP GROUP OF FRIENDS!
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196 thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 8:03 AM
Can somebody explain something to me: how can Chun Jae Mun (target 4) claim that the Prez's affair with Kyung Hee can make him even less publicly favored than the covering up of the sweep mission. Sure, the Prez's love life is pretty major to reporters and the people, but i'm sure a lot of people wouldn't see it as a big deal, right? So he had an affair. Just b/c he's Prez does that mean he doesn't get to be human and make mistakes or fall in love with the wrong person etc? I still think that the sweep mission would resonate more in disillusioning the people about the Prez. Unless Jae Mun means that he will ADD Prez's affair details to the mix should he ever confess, thereby portraying him as a real sleazebag/political powerhouse crook. Hm, not sure.
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 11:05 AM
I have been thinking the same thing. How does an affair compare to what the other 4 targets did? Is it such a crime to have an affair? But then again, look what happened to Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwazneggar. :)
And does JP need to use YS for his revenge? It's JP's revenge, not YS's. YS's not even MY's real son. JP should be doing all the killing. I guess he wanted so much to be the CH, but couldn't pull it off. Now, that YS has grown up to be such a hottie, he's all jealous and want to destroy YS as well. That's like killing 6 birds with one stone. :)
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197 tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Nana is going to get another nickname! There's Nana Bear, Chicken Lover, Nana Donkey.... Will we get a Nana Elephant? :)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:35 PM
@tuqaz ;)
i think YS has already compared NN to his beloved elephant back in Thailand when he was talking abt "someone" who was like NN - loves to eat and loves skinship...hehe...
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 7:55 PM
@ kdl... hey, girl! How was your weekend?
He did compare NN to his elephant, I just want him to say it to NN and see the look on her face when he calls her yet another animal. "You think I'm a farm?" more like a zoo! :D
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:14 PM
@tuqaz dearest!!! how was your weekend? ;)
my weekend was restful, thank God, and so had time to drop by DB again and again to look for comments from my dear CH sisters, such as you, tuqaz dearest!! ;)
and YES, i absolutely agree with you abt wanting to hear and see YS calling NN 'elephant' and confirming that YS thinks of NN not as NN asked "Am i a farm?, but, as you said, dear tuqaz, a ZOO!!!!! hahaha!!!
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tuqaz
July 18, 2011 at 12:30 AM
@ kdl... glad to hear you had a good weekend. mine was hectic, going to and from the hospital, but little princess is out now, and things are back to normal. Thank goodness!! :)
I'm hoping for more cute YS & NN moments in the next episode, which I doubt will happen. :(
koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 12:40 AM
@tuqaz ;)
oh, yes! sorry i forgot to ask how your little princess is doing...thank God she is doing well enough to be out of the hospital... ;)
you must be so relieved and thankful...im sure as a mother, if anybody has to be ill, you would rather be the one, than your precious little angel, right? ;)
and yes, am also hoping for more cute YS and NN moments but maybe only if there is a happy ending for both, which i am praying so hard for the writer/s and PDs to make happen in CH... ;)
tuqaz
July 18, 2011 at 4:14 AM
@ kdl... that's ok and am definitely relieved, especially when her hand, (where the needle for the IV drip was) started to swell up last night, I thought she might not be coming home today, and I couldn't be with her, since toddler princess definitely could not stay overnight at the hospital. My poor baby... :(
You know when Nana said it's better for her to hurt, rather than YS. I can totally relate. Yes, I'd rather be the one poked with needles, than see any of my kids go through all of that. I'd rather be the one hurt than have any of my family hurt. And sacrifice my own happiness for them to be happy. :)
I don't think there'll be any cute YS and NN moments in the next episode. I just don't want to get my hopes up, that way I won't be disappointed. :)
koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 4:35 AM
@tuqaz ;)
i knew it!!! just from the warmth and compassionate tone of your words in this blog, i can tell that you are the kind of wife and mother anyone would be so blessed to have - a wife and mother who always put the well-being of those she loves before her own, even at the expense of her own health and happiness... ;)
your husband and children are so fortunate and blessed!!! ;)
you know the sayings -
the more we love, the more we are loved
the more we give, the more we receive?
you are LIVING the truth of those sayings, tuqaz dear ;)
i am so very happy for you and your loved ones ;)
tuqaz
July 19, 2011 at 4:53 AM
@ kdl
Thanks. I do try my best for my family. Even quit my job to be a stay-at-home mom, er, I mean, The Ministry of Domesticity and Home Affairs. If I were back home, I can have career and family, just like mom did. But, here, you have to choose between family and career. I chose family after 3 years working here. I only saw my son 2 hours a day and that's in the evening, if I'm lucky. I just couldn't do that. Didn't see hubby much either, good thing we have the same jobs, we understand the pressures that come with it.
So, now, happy hubby and kids, happy me! :)
koreandramalover/kay
July 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM
@tuqaz!! that is fantastic!!! i have always considered stay-at-home-mums...ehem...i mean, Ministry of Domesticity and Home Affairs, to be the best kind of mums because they could be there for their husband and children when they are needed...
besides, your children are young and in need of your constant attention for only a short time...once they reach their teenage years, im sure they would not need as much of your attention and so, in reality, parents have only a few precious years to bond and enjoy being with their children...so enjoy the time while you have them, tuqaz, because the years will fly by so fast... ;)
both my parents were working throughout my growing up years and i have always felt there was something missing from my life and its only now that i understood what it is that i have been missing - my mother's care, time and attention... ;)
good for you, tuqaz, for being there for your hubby and children!!! they are so blessed to have you there for them when they need you... ;)
198 aki
July 17, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Am I the only person who think this drama is overrated...?
After reading all the comments about how awesome this drama is...I decided to give it a try, I almost finished watching ep 7 and ....so far, I think this drama is ok....I found some of the situation were ridiculously stupid ....as if those politicians wanted to get arrest on purpose....I mean, why would a politician just tell a random guy so easily about what he did... and let a random person recorded what he said and also, let a guy have a body check up of you....thats just...stupid and if they are just that stupid and careless to begin with, how do they even manage to get to the top position and for as a long time too....
Also, I know how they are trying to make the male lead looks super cool person and such but for me, fighting in slow motion just not that cool....
and the romance, I know they are trying to make it feels like they are destined to each other and such ,( and even that so called forbidden love: " I can't love you...blah blah blah) but the romance in this drama just didn't click on me at all...so far...
Anyway, those are just my personal opinions... no offence :)
Do reply if you think City hunter is overrated too :)
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thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 6:53 PM
That's going to be difficult for you to get a reply for. This thread is generally populated by CH enthusiasts. The other team prob wouldn't even look up a thread for a show they hated. LOL.
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM
@thameryst ;)
i absolutely agree with you. why waste our precious time ranting when we can use it to rave as much as we want on the dramas we loooove, right? .)
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aki
July 18, 2011 at 8:08 AM
well, I just thought that there are people out there who dislike CH but still watching the show and leave comments...since I saw a lot of comments about how the people disliked the show in other recaps thread in the past...for example, mary stays out all night...and someone still writing recaps about a show that she didn't like as well....
so people "who look up a thread for show that they hated" do exist...
Thanks for replying :)
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S
July 17, 2011 at 7:29 PM
I don't think City Hunter is overrated, but the part about "letting himself be recorded"...he didn't know he was being recorded; Yoon-sung had a secret camera on his glasses. And the senator was angry with the "random guy", who actually revealed himself to be the one to mess up his money-embezzling plans. So of course in such a moment, you'd want to talk down to that person. I'm not a City Hunter fanatic, I can see its flaws, but it's not overrated in my opinion...
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aki
July 18, 2011 at 7:58 AM
I know he didn't know he was being recorded, I know yoong-sung had a scecret camera and I know he was angry, even so, telling other people the illegal things that he did so easily just because he was...angry ?That is just stupid and super careless ...especially for a top person in the political world..in my opinion ...I wonder how a person like him survive in the political world for such a long time...that was what I meant..
and also, that politician's sons were stupid as well, how could he tell people so easily that he had no health issues at all, implying that it was just a way to avoid military service...
Thanks for replying anyway :)
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199 corn tea
July 17, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Dear Drama Sana:
Here is my wish list for Christmas in July -- things I want to see before CH ends:
1. YS & NN bicker & fight
2. YS calls NN: Bear NN, Chicken NN
3 NN calls YS: unlucky Jerk
4 NN tells YS she wants fried chicken
5. YS & NN practice Judo moves
All of the above IN B E D!
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thameryst
July 17, 2011 at 6:54 PM
Me Too. Especially the "In BED" part!!!!
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 7:51 PM
@ corn tea
Yes, I MISS cute YS and NN moments. We have yet to see the "in bed" part.
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smashingalou
July 18, 2011 at 8:16 AM
@tuqaz @ thameryst, hahaha, sisters.. we so think alike....
Me too, I'm missing the cutie cutie moments between YS and NN moments. No matter what others say that it's irrelevant to the story, I'd say those moments show the possibility for YS to have a peaceful life..
And oh, I so giggle with the IN BED part...
Oh, What should we do to make this happen?:)
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olsen
July 19, 2011 at 7:17 AM
please Santa, please..pretty please with a cherry on top?
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200 smashingalou
July 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Guys, not sure if you've seen this already though..But I just love this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs1yKCr3VlY
(I've watched it like 30 times I think, it's so cute with PMY and LMH, probably just hopeless romantic that they can have something in real life hehehe!)
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM
@ smasingalou
NOOOOO....!!! this video is block in this country! What has this country done to SBSi? :(
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Cynthia
July 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM
Thanks for the cute snippet. LMH and his "NaNa" have been friends for years - that's why they're so comfortable together.
:)
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smashingalou
July 18, 2011 at 8:12 AM
hey cynthia, yep that is guess why they're so comfortable with each other...
They've been friends way back I AM SAM times..which is now my target to complete watching after CH is done... :)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 9:09 PM
@smashingalou ;)
this video is blocked in Singapore on copyright grounds....aaarrrggghhh...
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tuqaz
July 17, 2011 at 9:18 PM
oh, this video... and Malaysia.
@ kdl... we're neighbours! :)
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koreandramalover/kay
July 17, 2011 at 10:02 PM
@tuqaz!!! so we are!!! hey, there dear neighbour!! ;)
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smashingalou
July 18, 2011 at 8:10 AM
@kaye and @tuqaz, oh I'm so sorry sisters, didn't know that... :(
I would have love to share the good vibe this clip gave me..Hehehe! Oh but anyway, we already have so much love here on this thread...so I'll keep the love going then...
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koreandramalover/kay
July 18, 2011 at 12:01 PM
@smashingalou ;)
it's ok. not your fault, dear ;)
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tuqaz
July 19, 2011 at 4:55 AM
@ smashingalou
no, definitely not your fault. Just disappointed at SBSi. What have they got against this region? :)
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olsen
July 19, 2011 at 7:03 AM
omg!are they cute or what?
eng subs pleaseee